is sony incapable of coming up with original ideas?

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#1 UT_Wrestler
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Can anybody name even one idea that sony thought of first?

Look at the PS1 and look at the beloved dual-shock controller. The ORIGINAL dual shock did not have analog, it was basically just a ripoff of the snes controller. Take away the handles and you'll see what I mean.

Then, along came the n64 with an analog stick, which it turns out is actually a necessity for 3d gaming, so after seeing this, sony MODIFIED the dual shock to include analog, so they once again copied nintendo.

I remember laughing back when sony fanboys were bashing the gamecube controller for being a "ripoff" of the dual shock, when in actuality they were basically saying that nintendo was just ripping off themselves.

Then nintendo comes out with the motion-sensing wii-mote, and then omg sony has to come up with their own half-assed motion sensing knockoff of this technology, and to add insult they announce a new controller called the "waggle" which is literally a carbon copy ripoff of the wii-mote.

And now sony has taken to ripping off microsoft as well. Hey that hard drive idea you put on the original xbox is pretty cool, let's copy that too! OOOh! Achievements! Wow we need to put some crap like that on our console even though it wasn't available at launch!

It's no wonder the ps3 is in last place. Aside from a lousy selection of games, all their innovations are just parodies of ideas originating at microsoft and nintendo.

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#2 Ragashahs
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what LBP not enough for you?
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what LBP not enough for you?Ragashahs
lbp?
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#4 ps3_owns_360Wii
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LBP, Motorstorm, R1 and R2 says hi.

Sony has developed alot more new IPs then MS this gen

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#5 -DrRobotnik-
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Eye Toy? Eye of Judgement? I dont know, some of these quirky PSN games (eden, flower, flow) etc are pretty original.
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#6 UT_Wrestler
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[QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]

LBP, Motorstorm, R1 and R2 says hi.

Sony has developed alot more new IPs then MS this gen

Motorstorm: Another generic racing game, wow so original and innovative Resistance: A sci-fi shooter with aliens; how original
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#7 ps3_owns_360Wii
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[QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]

LBP, Motorstorm, R1 and R2 says hi.

Sony has developed alot more new IPs then MS this gen

UT_Wrestler

Motorstorm: Another generic racing game, wow so original and innovative Resistance: A sci-fi shooter with aliens; how original

Motorstorm- tracks that change every lap

Resistance-40 mp games or 60 mp games on a console and they do it without lag

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#8 TOAO_Cyrus1
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[QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]

LBP, Motorstorm, R1 and R2 says hi.

Sony has developed alot more new IPs then MS this gen

Gears of War, Viva Pinata, Kameo...
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#9 Parasomniac
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Playstation was originally supposed to be an SNES add-on. They ripped off that whole project.
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#10 dark-warmachine
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Eye Toy? Eye of Judgement? I dont know, some of these quirky PSN games (eden, flower, flow) etc are pretty original.-DrRobotnik-
I agree in terms of games, tho judging from the OP, it seems to be about console features.
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#11 TheGrat1
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There is a guy around here with a sig that says ninty didnt invent the analog stick. Regardless, nintendo didnt invent dual analog, which every system (with the exception of Dreamcast and wii) has used. Not to mention their was a tilt sensing controller for the PlayStation 1998, so if anything SIXAXIS is copying that.

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#12 DeadEndPanda
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eye toy is the closest thing to an original idea sony ever had.

other then ripping off nintendo. which is also a good idea. to bad microsoft also had it

btw. you cant count games made by 3 partys.

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#13 clyde46
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If it works, why not?
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#14 ps3_owns_360Wii
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[QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]

LBP, Motorstorm, R1 and R2 says hi.

Sony has developed alot more new IPs then MS this gen

TOAO_Cyrus1

Gears of War, Viva Pinata, Kameo...

you for got alan wake, crackdown,IU, Lips, LO, ME, many others that MS published

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#15 TheGrat1
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Eye Toy? Eye of Judgement? I dont know, some of these quirky PSN games (eden, flower, flow) etc are pretty original.-DrRobotnik-
Ahhh I forgot about EyeToy. That is definately a SONY original.
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#16 FragTycoon
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Not a one of those ideas originated from Nintendo/x-box :|

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#17 mck92
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CD, DVD and Bluray
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#18 strobeshow
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your logic is so flawed. going by what youre saying, anyone can say a company copied another one.
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#19 Abicus7
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free online is a pretty original idea for consoles dont cha think?

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#20 Angry_PolarBear
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Playstation was originally supposed to be an SNES add-on. They ripped off that whole project.Parasomniac
how can they ripp off the whole project when Nintendo was the one who backed out of it, essentially giving sony the big middle finger. And can you please tell me what so original about microsoft, apart from LIVE they invented nothing.
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#21 clyde46
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your logic is so flawed. going by what youre saying, anyone can say a company copied another one. strobeshow
QFT. If nobody copied anyone we would be still sitting in caves,
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#22 dark-warmachine
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So we got Eye Toy, Dual Analog sticks and CD based console from the PS brand.
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#23 spinecaton
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free online is a pretty original idea for consoles dont cha think?

Abicus7

Dreamcast had it first :|

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#24 Angry_PolarBear
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So we got Eye Toy, Dual Analog sticks and CD based console from the PS brand.dark-warmachine
actually sega saturn had CD first :P
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#25 TOAO_Cyrus1
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[QUOTE="dark-warmachine"]So we got Eye Toy, Dual Analog sticks and CD based console from the PS brand.Angry_PolarBear
actually sega saturn had CD first :P

Actually the Sega Genisis had it as an add on first.

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#26 river_rat3117
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well i think these threads are kind of dumb but so am i so im gunna post. wasnt the ps2 out before the xbox, and the ps2 had a slot for an HDD, so with your logic MS copied sony on that one.
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[QUOTE="Angry_PolarBear"][QUOTE="dark-warmachine"]So we got Eye Toy, Dual Analog sticks and CD based console from the PS brand.TOAO_Cyrus1

actually sega saturn had CD first :P

Actually the Sega Genisis had it as an add on first.

But it wasn't really the primary media was it?
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#28 Arthray
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Microsoft wins with their original RROD.
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#30 st1ka
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[QUOTE="UT_Wrestler"][QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]

LBP, Motorstorm, R1 and R2 says hi.

Sony has developed alot more new IPs then MS this gen

ps3_owns_360Wii

Motorstorm: Another generic racing game, wow so original and innovative Resistance: A sci-fi shooter with aliens; how original

Motorstorm- tracks that change every lap

Resistance-40 mp games or 60 mp games on a console and they do it without lag

how is this original or inovation?

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#31 TheGrat1
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Wait. SCE was the first to produce a Full 3D optical media based console. Every system since the Dreamcast copies off of that, even your precious wii. SONY pwns you all in originality.
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#32 Bazooka_4ME
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Wow.., no mention of PSP + PS3 remote play at all... :(
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Wow.., no mention of PSP + PS3 remote play at all... :(Bazooka_4ME
Zing! Remote Play is awesome. A little more research may have helped the TC.
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#34 dark-warmachine
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So we got Eye Toy, Dual Analog sticks, PSP+PS3 remote play and primary CD based console from the PS brand.dark-warmachine
FIXED. :P
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#35 ermacness
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Sony was the 1st to incorporate DVD playback ability in a console, as well as the Eye Toy and vertical standing.

BTW, to the OP who stated that Motorstorm is a generic racer. Isn't it really funny that after the 1st Motorstorm dropped, all of a sudden we got Dirt, Pure, and Baja: Edge of Control, along with 2 announced off-road racers like Dirt 2 and Fuel all within the year? Now was dirt racing really this much of a hit before Motorstorm came out?

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#36 Angry_PolarBear
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Wow.., no mention of PSP + PS3 remote play at all... :(Bazooka_4ME
I'm pretty sure nintendo did that waaaayyyyyy before sony.

EDIT: Ithought you meant console + handheld connectivity, missed the remote play part.

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#37 Andrew_Xavier
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free online is a pretty original idea for consoles dont cha think?

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SEGA Dreamcast :)
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#38 st1ka
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Eye Toy? Eye of Judgement? I dont know, some of these quirky PSN games (eden, flower, flow) etc are pretty original.-DrRobotnik-
technically eye toy was just the answer to dreamcast's dream eye
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[QUOTE="dark-warmachine"]So we got Eye Toy, Dual Analog sticks, PSP+PS3 remote play and primary CD based console from the PS brand.dark-warmachine
FIXED. :P

sega saturn was the first console to use CD as it's primary medium.
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#40 st1ka
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Sony was the 1st to incorporate DVD playback ability in a console, as well as the Eye Toy and vertical standing.

BTW, to the OP who stated that Motorstorm is a generic racer. Isn't it really funny that after the 1st Motorstorm dropped, all of a sudden we got Dirt, Pure, and Baja: Edge of Control, along with 2 announced off-road racers like Dirt 2 and Fuel all within the year? Now was dirt racing really this much of a hit before Motorstorm came out?

ermacness

sega dreamcast had an eye toy of it's own before sony.

DVD? is hardly an original idea, that's like saying the SNES cartridges were inovative because they hold more space then then the NES ones

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#41 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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Sony came up with the cell.
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#42 mindbender22
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I tried that with an xbox 360 and a zune. My dog died of the awesomeness of that one...or the explosion that came from both.
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#43 bethwo
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I don't see why it matters, as long as they make great systems and games to go with them they can copy who ever the hell they want for all I care.
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#44 st1ka
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here it is the first eye toy type game

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#45 Abicus7
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what about backwards compatability? who did that first?
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#46 st1ka
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what about backwards compatability? who did that first?Abicus7
ATARI 7800

other then the eye of judgement and remote play i can think if anything hardware wise sony inovated in the gaming dept

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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]Eye Toy? Eye of Judgement? I dont know, some of these quirky PSN games (eden, flower, flow) etc are pretty original.st1ka
technically eye toy was just the answer to dreamcast's dream eye

He speaks the truth

Dream Eye

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#48 finalfantasy94
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So is xbox or 360 orginal?

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#49 nervmeister
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Linger in Shadows seems pretty original to me. Also, I hear that Sony plans on implementing steroscopic 3D in future titles.
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[QUOTE="Abicus7"]what about backwards compatability? who did that first?st1ka
ATARI 7800 other then the eye of judgement and remote play i can think if anything hardware wise sony inovated in the gaming dept

first console to have hard drive ?