Fallout 3 to be approachable to newcomers!

In a surprising turn of events, Bethesda decided to cater to newcomers of the Fallout series with their magnum opus Fallout 3, surprising considering how obscure and niche the game was looking in terms of appeal.

http://www.psu.com/Hines-on-making-Fallout-3-approachable-to-newcomers-News--a0004733-p0.php

"For those of you worried about playing catch up in the Fallout series before taking on Bethesda's latest entry in the franchise, don't fret. Pete Hines has assured PSU that new players should have no problem picking up Fallout 3 and jumping right in."

Pete Hines: "'Well, we make sure you don't have to have played the previous Fallout games to understand what's going on in Fallout 3. Obviously the control scheme should be familiar with folks who have played a 1st or 3rd person game. That was one of the nice things I heard at PAX from a number of folks is that they felt like the basic controls were pretty intuitive and seemed to pick up on things like how to use the Pip-Boy or the V.A.T.S. combat system pretty quickly.'"

This is GREAT news! He said it will be familiar to people who have played a 1st person game! That means I'll be able to log off of Live after a sweet round of Slayer on Halo 3 and pop in Fallout 3 and jump right in the mayhem! Totally! I wasn't interested in this game until I learned about the portable nuclear missile launcher (LOL CARNAGE FTW) and the fact that it's going to be familiar to me, a total Fallout nincompoop.

Anyway, good to know this game won't blow a brain cell, despite what you basement-dwelling hermits want. Time to blow stuff up come this November!

In a surprising turn of events, Bethesda decided to cater to newcomers of the Fallout series with their magnum opus Fallout 3, surprising considering how obscure and niche the game was looking in terms of appeal.

"For those of you worried about playing catch up in the Fallout series before taking on Bethesda's latest entry in the franchise, don't fret. Pete Hines has assured PSU that new players should have no problem picking up Fallout 3 and jumping right in."

Pete Hines: "'Well, we make sure you don't have to have played the previous Fallout games to understand what's going on in Fallout 3. Obviously the control scheme should be familiar with folks who have played a 1st or 3rd person game. That was one of the nice things I heard at PAX from a number of folks is that they felt like the basic controls were pretty intuitive and seemed to pick up on things like how to use the Pip-Boy or the V.A.T.S. combat system pretty quickly.'"

This is GREAT news! He said it will be familiar to people who have played a 1st person game! That means I'll be able to log off of Live after a sweet round of Slayer on Halo 3 and pop in Fallout 3 and jump right in the mayhem! Totally! I wasn't interested in this game until I learned about the portable nuclear missile launcher (LOL CARNAGE FTW) and the fact that it's going to be familiar to me, a total Fallout nincompoop.

Anyway, good to know this game won't blow a brain cell, despite what you basement-dwelling hermits want. Time to blow stuff up come this November!

BobHipJames

You're about to piss off a lot of hermits, and for good reason. I don't understand why people get so excited and love to bash pc gamers and us gamers who have been gaming since the beginning when one of our favorite series gets nerfed and made noob friendly. The game will rock, and I've never played FO 1 or 2 but I hate when games like Megaman and a ton of others go mainstream and get wrecked, so don't be so quick to throw it in hermits faces... It's just rude.

You're about to piss off a lot of hermits, and for good reason. I don't understand why people get so excited and love to bash pc gamers and us gamers who have been gaming since the beginning when one of our favorite series gets nerfed and made noob friendly. The game will rock, and I've never played FO 1 or 2 but I hate when games like Megaman and a ton of others go mainstream and get wrecked, so don't be so quick to throw it in hermits faces... It's just rude.

VulcanMage119

If my moemory serves me, he is a hermit. I might be wrong, but I think he's sarcastic. My sarcasm meter is going off, and it hasn't failed... yet.

I wanted this game so bad. I was so hyped. Then I started seeing more gameplay videos. :( This is Oblivion with guns, and I absolutely despise Oblivion.BioShockOwnz

[QUOTE="VulcanMage119"]

You're about to piss off a lot of hermits, and for good reason. I don't understand why people get so excited and love to bash pc gamers and us gamers who have been gaming since the beginning when one of our favorite series gets nerfed and made noob friendly. The game will rock, and I've never played FO 1 or 2 but I hate when games like Megaman and a ton of others go mainstream and get wrecked, so don't be so quick to throw it in hermits faces... It's just rude.

organic_machine

If my moemory serves me, he is a hermit. I might be wrong, but I think he's sarcastic. My sarcasm meter is going off, and it hasn't failed... yet.

Yes, he's being sarcastic.

I'm just so giddy that the atmosphere and feel I got from playing Fallout 1 and 2 seems to have been captured perfectly in this. I dunno how I'll view the combat and gameplay mechanics, but I'll find out.Verge_6

I wanted this game so bad. I was so hyped. Then I started seeing more gameplay videos. :( This is Oblivion with guns, and I absolutely despise Oblivion.BioShockOwnz

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]I wanted this game so bad. I was so hyped. Then I started seeing more gameplay videos. :( This is Oblivion with guns, and I absolutely despise Oblivion.swamplord666

Another thing I'm concerned about is the depressing browns. How fun will this large and open world be to explore? I was bored of Oblivion, yet atleast it had some color to it.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]I'm just so giddy that the atmosphere and feel I got from playing Fallout 1 and 2 seems to have been captured perfectly in this. I dunno how I'll view the combat and gameplay mechanics, but I'll find out.Vandalvideo

0_o

*kaboom*

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]I'm just so giddy that the atmosphere and feel I got from playing Fallout 1 and 2 seems to have been captured perfectly in this. I dunno how I'll view the combat and gameplay mechanics, but I'll find out.Vandalvideo

Ah, apologies, I didn't get the "All Fallout fans cannot show any form of anticipation for this game" memo. I'll be sure to check my inbox again.

...I'm going to be blunt, I really expected alot more from you.

Pssh, Emil said yesterday that it appeals to old school PC gamers because you get to read text in the game. (He actually said that)RobbieH1234

I wanted this game so bad. I was so hyped. Then I started seeing more gameplay videos. :( This is Oblivion with guns, and I absolutely despise Oblivion.BioShockOwnz

Sadly it is.

Oh and to TC, maybe if you had more than a neuron or be less than 10 years old you could actually play something besides curbstomping aliens.

...I'm going to be blunt, I really expected alot more from you.Verge_6

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]I wanted this game so bad. I was so hyped. Then I started seeing more gameplay videos. :( This is Oblivion with guns, and I absolutely despise Oblivion.tfpcgmr

Sadly it is.

Oh and to TC, maybe if you had more than a neuron or be less than 10 years old you could actually play something besides curbstomping aliens.

The irony of this is that he was being sarcastic. And blatantly so, if I might add.

In a surprising turn of events, Bethesda decided to cater to newcomers of the Fallout series with their magnum opus Fallout 3, surprising considering how obscure and niche the game was looking in terms of appeal.

BobHipJames

I agree; hardly surprising considering what they did with Elder Scrolls et al. :roll:

"If we dumbs deh game down, moar ppl undRstands it and we gets moar $$" — Official Bethesda statement to the press.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]...I'm going to be blunt, I really expected alot more from you.Vandalvideo

From what I've seen in the videos, it does seem to match what I felt. Key word here, "seems". You know, as in, not definitive or absolute? You cannot dictate what I feel, or how to feel, or why I feel, and quite frankly I am sick of being told how I should view this game.

I think it looks hot myself (the setting/premise/graphics/gore)..... the gameplay looks pretty cool to me because you can mix things up when you play , but it might come down to character interaction at the end of the day. If the people you meet in the world are generic lifeless characters , then that would be a problem.

People need to look at the game itself for what it is , not what they think Fallout is supposed to be. Pretend it is called Fallin Three.

Pssh, Emil said yesterday that it appeals to old school PC gamers because you get to read text in the game. (He actually said that)RobbieH1234

From what I've seen in the videos, it does seem to match what I felt. Key word here, "seems". You know, as in, not definitive or absolute? You cannot dictate what I feel, or how to feel, or why I feel, and quite frankly I am sick of being told how I should view this game.Verge_6

[QUOTE="RobbieH1234"]Pssh, Emil said yesterday that it appeals to old school PC gamers because you get to read text in the game. (He actually said that)PBSnipes

people will be less inclined to pick it up if it has ties to the old games, so they need to increase the market appeal by making it something very approachable for everyone. Fallout 3 was not made for the fans it was made to make lots of money.Burning_Sun

WTF? Since when did staying faithful to a renowned brand name ever make something LESS approachable?

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]From what I've seen in the videos, it does seem to match what I felt. Key word here, "seems". You know, as in, not definitive or absolute? You cannot dictate what I feel, or how to feel, or why I feel, and quite frankly I am sick of being told how I should view this game.Vandalvideo

Ah, I see, you're not telling me how I should feel about the game, but telling me what the reviewers think I should have felt about it and the prior titles. Yes, this is much better scenario. And again, "seems" is usually defined as meaning that something appears to be so, but it is not with certainty that it is. Just a little info.

Sorry, but this is going to be an awesome game.

Can't wait.

Ah, I see, you're not telling me how I should feel about the game, but telling me what the reviewers think I should have felt about it and the prior titles. Yes, this is much better scenario. And again, "seems" is usually defined as meaning that something appears to be so, but it is not with certainty that it is. Just a little info. Verge_6

[QUOTE="swamplord666"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]I wanted this game so bad. I was so hyped. Then I started seeing more gameplay videos. :( This is Oblivion with guns, and I absolutely despise Oblivion.BioShockOwnz

Another thing I'm concerned about is the depressing browns. How fun will this large and open world be to explore? I was bored of Oblivion, yet atleast it had some color to it.

[QUOTE="Burning_Sun"]people will be less inclined to pick it up if it has ties to the old games, so they need to increase the market appeal by making it something very approachable for everyone. Fallout 3 was not made for the fans it was made to make lots of money.mjarantilla

WTF? Since when did staying faithful to a renowned brand name ever make something LESS approachable?

people will be less inclined to pick it up if it has ties to the old games, so they need to increase the market appeal by making it something very approachable for everyone. Fallout 3 was not made for the fans it was made to make lots of money.Burning_Sun

Why is that, exactly?

I mean, you aren't saying "people would be less inclined to pick it up if it was an isometric RPG" (which would probably be true, given the nature of today's market)" you're saying "people will be less inclined to pick it up if it has ties to the old games", and that doesn't make a damn lick of sense to me.

Explain please.

EDIT: NVM, I see that you answered a similar question above my post, though I still want to know why you think a strong lore connection between the game and it's precursors (it is called Fallout THREE) would decrease the marketability of the product.

This game is supposed to be a sequel, is it not?

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Ah, I see, you're not telling me how I should feel about the game, but telling me what the reviewers think I should have felt about it and the prior titles. Yes, this is much better scenario. And again, "seems" is usually defined as meaning that something appears to be so, but it is not with certainty that it is. Just a little info. Vandalvideo

And, here's a shocker, what if I really don't care about that and am just glad that the gloomy, unforgettable post-apocalypitic setting and atmosphere that made me adore the Fallout 1 & 2 appears to be present in Fallout 3? Or is there some sort of unspoken PC gaming law that forbids that....

This is actually one of my main worries. I stopped hoping for a true FO sequel the moment I heard it's made by Beth, but it could had at least been a good action-adventure in its own right. But when the lush fairy world of Oblivion managed to feel so dead and boring, how are they gonna pull of a post-apocalyptic world without making me want to gouge my eyes out.mr_mozilla

That's how. :P

The only thing that I might not like too much about Fallout 3 is the music. Nobody seems to mention it at all but its very very old. And some people may say well it matchs the post apoc world well they could of come up with some new music for it. Maybe like a little techmo or something like that.

Some people will say that the technology for techmo doesn't exist in that world. Well I've seen futuristic weapons in the game along with futuristic technology such as the arm band thing on his wrist so I don't see why they can't include some different music.

And, here's a shocker, what if I really don't care about that and am just glad that the gloomy, unforgettable post-apocalypitic setting and atmosphere that made me adore the Fallout 1 & 2 appears to be present in Fallout 3? Or is there some sort of unspoken PC gaming law that forbids that.... Verge_6

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="swamplord666"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]I wanted this game so bad. I was so hyped. Then I started seeing more gameplay videos. :( This is Oblivion with guns, and I absolutely despise Oblivion.mr_mozilla

Another thing I'm concerned about is the depressing browns. How fun will this large and open world be to explore? I was bored of Oblivion, yet atleast it had some color to it.

The two main complaints about Oblivion were:

1: Levelling system.

2: Non Varied Environments.

Even though Beth is clearly shifting over the Elder Scrolls formula to Fallout (which I have no problem with, Fallout was dead, Interplay was dead, a new one wasn't going to be made, and as much as I love the two originals I also love the Elder Scrolls series. hey, I'll take a new, great game that happens to bear the Fallout name over no game at all) they aren't applying these two flaws to Fallout 3. They've said they aren't implementing the flawed levelling system as it was in Oblivion, and while the overall world size is less than Oblivion's they've done so in order to tighten it up and make it more varied (so it isn't the same thing over and over again, as it was the same Dungeons and Landscapes in Oblivion.)

So, really, it's not like Oblivion with guns so much as it is Morrowind with guns. I have nothing against Oblivion though. I loved it, not quite as much as I loved Daggerfall and Morrowind, but I enjoyed it none the less.

this is great news

accessibility .. aka 'watering-down' to some hermits, is another great thing

that's why i like oblivion more than morrowind, or bioshock more than system shock 2 .. and explains why many people were disappointed with oblivion / bioshock

So, realy, it's not like Oblivion with guns so much as it is Morrowind with guns.RuprechtMonkey

[QUOTE="Burning_Sun"]people will be less inclined to pick it up if it has ties to the old games, so they need to increase the market appeal by making it something very approachable for everyone. Fallout 3 was not made for the fans it was made to make lots of money.jethrovegas

Why is that, exactly?

I mean, you aren't saying "people would be less inclined to pick it up if it was an isometric RPG" (which would probably be true, given the nature of today's market)" you're saying "people will be less inclined to pick it up if it has ties to the old games", and that doesn't make a damn lick of sense to me.

Explain please.

[QUOTE="mr_mozilla"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="swamplord666"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]I wanted this game so bad. I was so hyped. Then I started seeing more gameplay videos. :( This is Oblivion with guns, and I absolutely despise Oblivion.RuprechtMonkey

Another thing I'm concerned about is the depressing browns. How fun will this large and open world be to explore? I was bored of Oblivion, yet atleast it had some color to it.

The two main complaints about Oblivion were:

1: Levelling system.

2: Non Varied Environments.

Even though Beth is clearly shifting over the Elder Scrolls formula to Fallout (which I have no problem with, Fallout was dead, Interplay was dead, a new one wasn't going to be made, and as much as I love the two originals I also love the Elder Scrolls series. hey, I'll take a new, great game that happens to bear the Fallout name over no game at all) they aren't applying these two flaws to Fallout 3. They've said they aren't implementing the flawed levelling system as it was in Oblivion, and while the overall world size is less than Oblivion's they've done so in order to tighten it up and make it more varied (so it isn't the same thing over and over again, as it was the same Dungeons and Landscapes in Oblivion.)

So, really, it's not like Oblivion with guns so much as it is Morrowind with guns. I have nothing against Oblivion though. I loved it, not quite as much as I loved Daggerfall and Morrowind, but I enjoyed it none the less.

Yeah I hear you. Thats another thing is that if the dev of the first two fallouts was so good at making games why are they not around any more?

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]And, here's a shocker, what if I really don't care about that and am just glad that the gloomy, unforgettable post-apocalypitic setting and atmosphere that made me adore the Fallout 1 & 2 appears to be present in Fallout 3? Or is there some sort of unspoken PC gaming law that forbids that.... Vandalvideo

The funny thing here is that I never, not once, stated that the atmosphere was the same. I stated clearly how the atmosphere and feel I personally recieved from the prior two installments seemed to be present. For further clarrification, I have linked webster's definition of the term. You also seem to be under the impression I was referring to the whole game seeming to be 'the same', rather than simply the atmosphere and sensation. In fact, I do beleive I stated that I '(had) no clue how I would find the gameplay and combat mechanics'.

[QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="VulcanMage119"]

You're about to piss off a lot of hermits, and for good reason. I don't understand why people get so excited and love to bash pc gamers and us gamers who have been gaming since the beginning when one of our favorite series gets nerfed and made noob friendly. The game will rock, and I've never played FO 1 or 2 but I hate when games like Megaman and a ton of others go mainstream and get wrecked, so don't be so quick to throw it in hermits faces... It's just rude.

BioShockOwnz

If my moemory serves me, he is a hermit. I might be wrong, but I think he's sarcastic. My sarcasm meter is going off, and it hasn't failed... yet.

Yes, he's being sarcastic.

I would like to just point out that I'm retarded and I apologise lol there's too many real people on SW saying that I was caught off guard lol

The funny thing here is that I never, not once, stated that the atmosphere was the same. I stated clearly how the atmosphere and feel I personally recieved from the prior two installments seemed to be present. For further clarrification, I have linked webster's definition of the term. You also seem to be under the impression I was referring to the whole game seeming to be 'the same', rather than simply the atmosphere and sensation. In fact, I do beleive I stated that I '(had) no clue how I would find the gameplay and combat mechanics'.Verge_6

Yeah I hear you. Thats another thing is that if the dev of the first two fallouts was so good at making games why are they not around any more?

odin2019

Hold up a minute....

I need to interject here: Black Isle studios made Planescape Torment, Fallout 1 and 2, and Icewind Dale....

Those are some of the highest rated, best loved, and most frequent additions to "best of" lists of all time.

Fallout 1, for example, made Gamespot's GOTY or at least RPG of the year for the year it came out...

The reason their studio is defunct is that their publusher was defunct....the reason for both becoming financially inviable was essentially because people stopped supporting them. *Cruel glare*