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#1 tormentos
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As a starting point, both consoles get the basics right. There are no drawbacks on the resolution front: this is a true 1920x1080 game on PS4, and a pixel count reveals it's the very same situation on Xbox One, with both backed by FXAA anti-aliasing. It's an interesting result given the console's trend of adopting lower native resolutions than PS4 to secure a smooth frame-rate, or to achieve parity in graphical features. However, Dark Souls 2's lock at 1080p plants it in the upper echelons of multi-format releases so far, at least in terms of visuals.

Xbox One pays a persistent price for matching the PS4's visual standard. Both formats target 60fps and engage v-sync at all times, but Microsoft's platform suffers the greater drops between the two in each scene of our frame-rate analysis. The Forest of Fallen Giants area is a good example, where a barrage of enemies causes a read-out of between 40-50fps on Xbox One, while PS4 operates within the 50-60fps range. Even while uncontested beneath the giant, arching trees of Things Betwixt, a regular margin of 10fps exists between the two - PS4 operating at a near perfect 60fps, while Xbox stutters along at 50fps.

Unfortunately this has the knock-on effect of making combat sluggish on Xbox One. In one example, an encounter with The Last Giant boss gives us our lowest drop, a record tumble to 36fps cued by a batch of floating souls. The PS4 goes entirely unruffled by the effect here, and it's fair to say the smoother controller response makes it easier to tackle a lingering knight after this boss battle's finished. Sony's machine does not produce a perfect 60fps of course, but it is a consistently better performer - and in a game that demands pinpoint timing for rolls and ripostes, the smoother frame-rate can make a difference.

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#2 inb4uall
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Lol cows still bringing up that the PS4 is stronger. Still. Are you really that butt hurt about the 360 tomato?

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#3 Couth_
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TFW "next gen" consoles can't handle last gen games at 60faps

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#5 hrt_rulz01
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This is why all this whinging about a game not being 1080p on Xbone is so annoying to me... I'd rather have it 900p and run smooth at 60FPS then push it to 1080p and be all over the place.

I hope future games like Witcher 3 don't push for 1080p at the expense of smooth gameplay! Not all of us are obsessed with resolution.

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#6 AM-Gamer
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@Couth_ said:

TFW "next gen" consoles can't handle last gen games at 60faps

Not only is it 60fps it looks better then the last gen version and even the PC version in every way.

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#7 foxhound_fox
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I still remember when Ken Kutaragi promised the PS3 would deliver visuals of dual 1080p @ 120 fps in 4D.

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#8 aroxx_ab
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I would like to see Ps4 vs Ps3

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#9 speedfreak48t5p
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@foxhound_fox said:

I still remember when Ken Kutaragi promised the PS3 would deliver visuals of dual 1080p @ 120 fps in 4D.

Lol

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#10  Edited By lamprey263
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Digital Foundry, when the Xbox One outperforms PS4 say that the differences are academic and only noticeable when zooming in and/or slow motion say that differences are only viable then, but when PS4 has the most minute advantage they say just how drastic and substantial it is. And here, no difference, over what, game dipping at times to the 40-50fps range while PS4 between 50-60fps range... jeez, oh, the horror.

Having watch the DF video a couple times now I can easily say the only thing that's noticeable of either versions really is the number in each corner, looking at the video and only the video the performance difference isn't even noticeable.

Just as long as there isn't another Blight Town I'll be happy. I'm wondering if PS4 gamers are even going to pick this up as I imagine they'll have their hands full with Bloodborne at the moment.

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#11 Blabadon
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I hate how they both drop, but the One's performance whenever an enemy shows up is pretty awful in particular.

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#12 remiks00
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Holy hell those frame drops during combat on Xbone.

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#13  Edited By Couth_
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@AM-Gamer said:

@Couth_ said:

TFW "next gen" consoles can't handle last gen games at 60faps

Not only is it 60fps it looks better then the last gen version and even the PC version in every way.

"The Forest of Fallen Giants area is a good example, where a barrage of enemies causes a read-out of between 40-50fps on Xbox One, while PS4 operates within the 50-60fps range"

"Sony's machine does not produce a perfect 60fps of course, but it is a consistently better performer "

IDK if you know, but the PC version got this version too and it even got it first. It came out yesterday. What's more you don't have to pay full price, you can simply upgrade your old version on steam. Lastly it's capable of a true 60faps and a much higher resolution

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Grats on 2nd place, pez.

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#15 Snugenz
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@AM-Gamer: Yeah no, it runs at 4k 60fps with much better AA and other effects on PC.

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#16 ImBatman-
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The question is if the console versions have the 60 fps durability bug.

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#17  Edited By yanni1
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lol ps4 can't even hold 60 either. Absolutely pathetic.

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#19 inb4uall
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@Couth_ said:

@AM-Gamer said:

@Couth_ said:

TFW "next gen" consoles can't handle last gen games at 60faps

Not only is it 60fps it looks better then the last gen version and even the PC version in every way.

"The Forest of Fallen Giants area is a good example, where a barrage of enemies causes a read-out of between 40-50fps on Xbox One, while PS4 operates within the 50-60fps range"

"Sony's machine does not produce a perfect 60fps of course, but it is a consistently better performer "

IDK if you know, but the PC version got this version too and it even got it first. It came out yesterday. What's more you don't have to pay full price, you can simply upgrade your old version on steam. Lastly it's capable of a true 60faps and a much higher resolution

Rekt

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#20 soulitane
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I don't see myself getting this game, but if I did it would probably be for PC anyway.

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Bloodborn runs at 0 fps on Xbone and windows because it's not even on those two bootleg platforms LOL!

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#22  Edited By remiks00
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@inb4uall said:

@Couth_ said:

@AM-Gamer said:

@Couth_ said:

TFW "next gen" consoles can't handle last gen games at 60faps

Not only is it 60fps it looks better then the last gen version and even the PC version in every way.

"The Forest of Fallen Giants area is a good example, where a barrage of enemies causes a read-out of between 40-50fps on Xbox One, while PS4 operates within the 50-60fps range"

"Sony's machine does not produce a perfect 60fps of course, but it is a consistently better performer "

IDK if you know, but the PC version got this version too and it even got it first. It came out yesterday. What's more you don't have to pay full price, you can simply upgrade your old version on steam. Lastly it's capable of a true 60faps and a much higher resolution

Rekt

lol

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#23  Edited By AM-Gamer
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@Couth_: I never bought the PS3 version so in not terribly worried about the price. It stays at mostly 60fps and dips into the 50s that isn't going to bug me. This will be my first time owning the game. And higher resolution with those textures? Lol enjoy.

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#24  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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So PS4 wins against the X1 again.

Ok...nothing new here.

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#25  Edited By AM-Gamer
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@inb4uall: And it still looks like shit compared to BB now go suck on that salt.

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#26 lostrib
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Lol AM is salty

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@AM-Gamer said:

@inb4uall: And it still looks like shit compared to BB now go suck on that salt.

Moving the goalposts again?

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@lamprey263 said:

Digital Foundry, when the Xbox One outperforms PS4 say that the differences are academic and only noticeable when zooming in and/or slow motion say that differences are only viable then, but when PS4 has the most minute advantage they say just how drastic and substantial it is. And here, no difference, over what, game dipping at times to the 40-50fps range while PS4 between 50-60fps range... jeez, oh, the horror.

Having watch the DF video a couple times now I can easily say the only thing that's noticeable of either versions really is the number in each corner, looking at the video and only the video the performance difference isn't even noticeable.

Just as long as there isn't another Blight Town I'll be happy. I'm wondering if PS4 gamers are even going to pick this up as I imagine they'll have their hands full with Bloodborne at the moment.

dark souls may have chugged , but that game was one of a kind.

I could never get into dark souls 2, I don't even care about bloodborne. Apparently from software was a one trick pony, to me anyway. That one trick was a masterpiece though, probably the best game I've ever played.

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#29 AM-Gamer
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@lostrib: how am I salty?

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@clyde46 said:

@AM-Gamer said:

@inb4uall: And it still looks like shit compared to BB now go suck on that salt.

Moving the goalposts again?

Yeah, you'll find cows do that a lot. I mean we could always throw star citizen at him but I don't want to encourage this kind of behavior.

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@inb4uall said:

@clyde46 said:

@AM-Gamer said:

@inb4uall: And it still looks like shit compared to BB now go suck on that salt.

Moving the goalposts again?

Yeah, you'll find cows do that a lot. I mean we could always throw star citizen at him but I don't want to encourage this kind of behavior.

I do find it funny how he's got very good at back peddling.

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It's a Sony setup

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#33  Edited By AM-Gamer
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@clyde46: No I don't need to, he claimed the PS4 had a problem running a last gen game when in fact it looks better then the PC version with higher assets. A new DX11 version was released to match it. So how am I moving the goal post? It's improved over the last gen game in every way and runs at mostly 60fps. So how is the PS4 stuggling here?

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@Couth_ said:

@AM-Gamer said:

@Couth_ said:

TFW "next gen" consoles can't handle last gen games at 60faps

Not only is it 60fps it looks better then the last gen version and even the PC version in every way.

"The Forest of Fallen Giants area is a good example, where a barrage of enemies causes a read-out of between 40-50fps on Xbox One, while PS4 operates within the 50-60fps range"

"Sony's machine does not produce a perfect 60fps of course, but it is a consistently better performer "

IDK if you know, but the PC version got this version too and it even got it first. It came out yesterday. What's more you don't have to pay full price, you can simply upgrade your old version on steam. Lastly it's capable of a true 60faps and a much higher resolution

It's more surprising that it doesn't run at 60fps locked on both consoles. From Software is not very good with optimization, and it really shows -- especially in Bloodborne. Doesn't mean they don't design good games though.

The graphical update is nice, and the PS4 version does seem to have additional graphical perks compared to the PC version as well. They'll probably get added in to the PC version by users anyway.

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#35 ProtossX
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another game im gettin on ps4 microsoft are u out there microsoft are u out there? earth to microsoft!

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#36  Edited By princeofshapeir
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How can Dark Souls 2 not run at 60 FPS on XB1? It looks like a PS2 game even with the graphics "update."

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#37 ProtossX
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@princeofshapeir said:

How can Dark Souls 2 not run at 60 FPS on XB1? It looks like a PS2 game even with the graphics "update."

microsoft needs to respond to this stuff

they need to have phil spencer say this shouldn't be happening and we are gonna fix it or something u can't be this bad in this day ana ge u cant release a game worse than ur competition u ahve to speak up an say something to the gamers

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@princeofshapeir said:

How can Dark Souls 2 not run at 60 FPS on XB1? It looks like a PS2 game even with the graphics "update."

I know right? It should run at 60+fps on average for both platforms.

To put it into perspective, the last of us ran at 30fps with no hiccups on PS3. Maybe it's time someone gave them some outside talent as aid. Hexadrive (former capcom employees that made ZOE2 HD run locked at 60fps on PS3) could help them out big time. Hell, maybe they could even get Bloodborne to 60fps.

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That would be game breaking. I hope they patch the Xbox One version soon.

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#40  Edited By silversix_
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Why on earth is every game use FXAA crap? and how did this game managed to have fps drops when its this blocky and outdated visually? I ran it at 150fps all maxed out with sweetfx on my 2011 rig? Seeing 40fps drops in a game that looks like something straight from 2007 (don't get me wrong, i loved the fawk out DkS2 but graphics is not something it had) is sad for a console that came out at the end of 2013.

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#41 xhawk27
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And to think that most Sony fanboys think that Uncharted 4 is going to run at a solid 60fps! Hahahahahahahahahaa... Hahahahhahahaahahahahah!!!!!

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@clyde46 said:

@AM-Gamer said:

@inb4uall: And it still looks like shit compared to BB now go suck on that salt.

Moving the goalposts again?

lets not forget DX11 upgraded version of DS2

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#43 AM-Gamer
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@04dcarraher: Which still looks worse then BB?

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#44 mems_1224
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Didnt read the thread but since tormentard made it im gonna guess hes gonna ignore than the pc is the best version and that the ps4 performs slightly better than the xbone

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#45 glez13
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Well I just installed it and it looks as shitty as ever. Maybe the lighting is fairly better.

Anyways can't decide which character to play as. Wanted for a while to play deprived but since this is supposed to be harder because of the new enemy placement maybe I will go for a full mage or an axe and bow bandit.

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#46 EducatingU_PCMR
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@AM-Gamer said:

@clyde46: No I don't need to, he claimed the PS4 had a problem running a last gen game when in fact it looks better then the PC version with higher assets. A new DX11 version was released to match it. So how am I moving the goal post? It's improved over the last gen game in every way and runs at mostly 60fps. So how is the PS4 stuggling here?

Why are you comparing the PS4 version to the PC's old version?

The PC's old version shits on the PS360, which is the comparison you should be doing.

Nex DX11 version probably looks the same as PS4, with the advantage of non shitty framerate.

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@xhawk27 said:

And to think that most Sony fanboys think that Uncharted 4 is going to run at a solid 60fps! Hahahahahahahahahaa... Hahahahhahahaahahahahah!!!!!

what's your point? Infamous SS was open world, looked metric ton better, has one of the if not the best particles in a game and ran mostly in 40fps+. This is FROMSOFT, they never learned to optimize for shit (or just don't have the resources). Naughty Dog knows how to optimize and make quality games. Not to mention that UC4 will probably be linear so its even easier to achieve 60fps.

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#48 AM-Gamer
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@EducatingU_PCMR said:

@AM-Gamer said:

@clyde46: No I don't need to, he claimed the PS4 had a problem running a last gen game when in fact it looks better then the PC version with higher assets. A new DX11 version was released to match it. So how am I moving the goal post? It's improved over the last gen game in every way and runs at mostly 60fps. So how is the PS4 stuggling here?

Why are you comparing the PS4 version to the PC's old version?

The PC's old version shits on the PS360, which is the comparison you should be doing.

Nex DX11 version probably looks the same as PS4, with the advantage of non shitty framerate.

Because a hermit claimed the PS4 had problems running a last gen game.

If you say the PC version by your own words "Shits" on the PS3/360 versions and we know the PS4 version looks better then the old PC version while running at mostly 60 fps how is that embarrassing?

They improved the visuals and run it at double the frame rate . I love how mostly 60fps with rare occasional dips into the mid 50s is a shitty frame rate now. Upcoming high end PC games must be unplayable to you.

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@Snugenz said:

@AM-Gamer: Yeah no, it runs at 4k 60fps with much better AA and other effects on PC.

Um yea know it has no extra effects on PC. Enjoy 4k with those textures lmao.

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#50 Thunderdrone
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Why are these new consoles having such a hard time locking previous gen games at 60fp?

What the **** put more effort into your shit From.