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Am I reading this right? Sony wants to put in 8GB of GDDR5?! :o

Edge: PS4 to launch in Europe in early 2014, US/JP 2013, more powerful than next Xbox

Development sources with working knowledge of both next generation consoles have told us that PlayStation 4 will be more powerful than the next Xbox, will ship with a redesigned controller and launch by the end of the year in Japan and the US. PlayStation 4s European launch will follow in early 2014.

Sony is set to reveal its next PlayStation on Wednesday February 20th at an event dubbed see the future. Sony Computer Entertainment released a teaser video last night to announce the event. Below, our sources revealed what to expect from PlayStation 4.

The controller

Sources close to the hardware have revealed to us that PS4 will ship with a redesigned controller which is the same size as an existing DualShock but features a small touchpad in place of the existing Select, Start and PS buttons. The tech is based on Vitas rear touchpad, and is similarly responsive in use. A new Share button on the controller will, when pressed, launch a new feature that will allow screenshots and video to be distributed online. The PS4 hardware will continually record the most recent 15 minutes of onscreen action (with no processing penalty, claims our source), which users will then be able to edit and broadcast via the Internet.

The launch

Were told that PlayStation 4 will launch in Japan and the US by Christmas, with a Euro rollout following in early 2014, the delay attributed to the complexities involved in European distribution. Alongside the console, Sony will also introduce a new, improved iteration of its PlayStation Eye peripheral, which remains compatible with the PlayStation Move controller. Move will be available at launch, but its not clear yet whether it will be bundled with the hardware.

The specification

Sony has already earned an enormous amount of goodwill among studios working with PS4 development hardware. Privately, Sony representatives have conceded that the company made a mistake in creating such esoteric architecture for PS3, and its strategy for PS4 gives developers more opportunities this time around, notably because the hardware is much more PC-like in its makeup than PS3.

We have confirmed with sources that recently leaked tech specs are accurate. Though Durango devkits offer 8GB of DDR3 RAM, compared to Orbiss 4GB, Sonys GDDR5 solution is capable of moving data at 176 gigabytes per second, which should eliminate the sort of bottlenecks that hampered PS3 game performance. Importantly, weve learned that Sony has told developers that it is pushing for the final PS4 RAM to match up to Microsofts 8GB.

Both platforms are driven by eight-core AMD CPUs clocked at 1.6GHz, with Microsoft opting for a D3D11.x GPU from an unknown source and Sony utilising a more capable solution in AMDs R10XX architecture, alongside the so-called Liverpool system-on-chip.

Its clear Sony has designed a system that, on paper, outperforms Microsofts next Xbox. One source familiar with both platforms tells us that in real terms Sonys console is slightly more powerful and very simple to work with.

Ultimately, the performance differences between the two consoles will have as much bearing on multiplatform releases as the differences between PS3 and 360 very little but Sony will be expecting big-budget firstparty releases such as the PS4 Uncharted sequel to demonstrate its consoles superiority.

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The Power of The Cell Strikes Again!
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Sony wins
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The Power of The Cell Strikes Again!kuraimen
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#6 DISSESHOWEDO
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Can't understand why not simultaneous release, but it's ok with me. I'll have more time to finish my collection of games and buy some new ones cheap !

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I will never need to buy another console again :oops:

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"Privately, Sony representatives have conceded that the company made a mistake in creating such esoteric architecture for PS3"

 

Wow they finally admitted this.  Good that Sony is being honest.

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Incoming $499 price point.

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Why is the EU getting it last again!?
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Damit I'm so hype right now!!! :D

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Why is the EU getting it last again!?clyde46
Sony doesn't reward loyalty as well as cows hope they would LOL.
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Why is the EU getting it last again!?clyde46

 Euro rollout following in early 2014, the delay attributed to the complexities involved in European distribution.

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#14 RR360DD
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I expected as much from Sony (EU delay). Ill be getting the new Xbox this year as Microsoft can actually do a worldwide launch, and then the PS4 next.

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pretty easy for something to be stonger when neither of them in public eye yet lol

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Why is Europe getting stiffed by Sony.  I thought Playstation was a stronghold there.  Oh well.

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[QUOTE="clyde46"]Why is the EU getting it last again!?jimmypsn
Sony doesn't reward loyalty as well as cows hope they would LOL.

Maybe this is to make up for all the crappy PS+ US region has been getting compared to EU. :P

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Have fun waiting EU lol.
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Funny cos an "Insider" from Sony apparently said they are not trying to beat the Xbox on raw power. Yet here this says it's more powerful. So many conflicting stories. 

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"Privately, Sony representatives have conceded that the company made a mistake in creating such esoteric architecture for PS3"

 

Wow they finally admitted this.  Good that Sony is being honest.

jimmypsn
One of the biggest mistakes with PS3
Why is the EU getting it last again!?clyde46
PSN + for ya!
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Funny cos an "Insider" from Sony apparently said they are not trying to beat the Xbox on raw power. Yet here this says it's more powerful. So many conflicting stories. 

seanmcloughlin

I noticed that to.

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Incoming $499 price point.

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Why release in US first? That place is garbage
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Good Lord *facepalm*

Why can't they make the new dualshock bigger?!?1

I'm so sick of having to use a controller that feels like it was designed for a toddler's hands, and I hate spending money on 3rd party peripherals.

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Have fun waiting EU lol.Under_Armour

With all the exclusives ps3 getting on its last year its gonna be a fun wait :D

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[QUOTE="clyde46"]Why is the EU getting it last again!?jimmypsn
Sony doesn't reward loyalty as well as cows hope they would LOL.

What does a simultaneous release have to do with loyalty? Getting at launch is generally the worst time to pick up a system. It has the highest price point, least developed software, lowest number of games, and could even have hardware issues. I could understand if you're desperate for an announced exclusive launch title, but there is no reason to be desperate for the hardware.
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Why release in US first? That place is garbage themajormayor
You folks would be speaking German or Japanese without us and Russia. That's why your gov stays so close to us now.
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[QUOTE="jimmypsn"][QUOTE="clyde46"]Why is the EU getting it last again!?DerekLoffin
Sony doesn't reward loyalty as well as cows hope they would LOL.

What does a simultaneous release have to do with loyalty? Getting at launch is generally the worst time to pick up a system. It has the highest price point, least developed software, lowest number of games, and could even have hardware issues. I could understand if you're desperate for an announced exclusive launch title, but there is no reason to be desperate for the hardware.

You sound like the ps4 will release years later. It's just a few months delay man. Relax.
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Have fun waiting EU lol.Under_Armour

Yeah cos launch titles for these systems are always so worth the price of admission. By the time it releases in the EU they will still be waiting for the good titles

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[QUOTE="jimmypsn"][QUOTE="DerekLoffin"][QUOTE="jimmypsn"] Sony doesn't reward loyalty as well as cows hope they would LOL.

What does a simultaneous release have to do with loyalty? Getting at launch is generally the worst time to pick up a system. It has the highest price point, least developed software, lowest number of games, and could even have hardware issues. I could understand if you're desperate for an announced exclusive launch title, but there is no reason to be desperate for the hardware.

You sound like the ps4 will release years later. It's just a few months delay man. Relax.

I am relaxed, I'm asking a question. What does simultaneous release have to do with loyalty when buying at launch is the worst possible time to buy a system?
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[QUOTE="Under_Armour"]Have fun waiting EU lol.seanmcloughlin

Yeah cos launch titles for these systems are always so worth the price of admission. By the time it releases in the EU they will still be waiting for the good titles

 

Not this time :) Naughty dog and Guerrilla Games as well as others have been working on ps4 games since 2011, if not before. There is a high chance PS4 could launch along with stuff like Uncharted 4.

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[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"][QUOTE="jimmypsn"][QUOTE="DerekLoffin"] What does a simultaneous release have to do with loyalty? Getting at launch is generally the worst time to pick up a system. It has the highest price point, least developed software, lowest number of games, and could even have hardware issues. I could understand if you're desperate for an announced exclusive launch title, but there is no reason to be desperate for the hardware.

You sound like the ps4 will release years later. It's just a few months delay man. Relax.

I am relaxed, I'm asking a question. What does simultaneous release have to do with loyalty when buying at launch is the worst possible time to buy a system?

Because everyone wants to be first. The first to get new games, new music, new movies. People covet being the first to own new gadgets etc etc.
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Under_Armour"]Have fun waiting EU lol.KillzoneSnake

Yeah cos launch titles for these systems are always so worth the price of admission. By the time it releases in the EU they will still be waiting for the good titles

 

Not this time :) Naughty dog and Guerrilla Games as well as others have been working on ps4 games since 2011, if not before. There is a high chance PS4 could launch along with stuff like Uncharted 4.

Oh yay Uncharted 4, exactly what we need.

In other words an interactive tech demo where you stare at set pieces showing off the new hardware

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[QUOTE="themajormayor"]Why release in US first? That place is garbage cainetao11
You folks would be speaking German or Japanese without us and Russia. That's why your gov stays so close to us now.

Rather be German than American.
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Good Lord *facepalm*

Why can't they make the new dualshock bigger?!?1

I'm so sick of having to use a controller that feels like it was designed for a toddler's hands, and I hate spending money on 3rd party peripherals.

Boddicker

This. So I'll most likely have to choose between a seriously underpowered console or one that makes my hands cramp up like crazy... ugh.

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[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

Incoming $499 price point.

Heil68

Day fvcking 1, no questions asked.

As long as they have the games to back it up. Yep.

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[QUOTE="Boddicker"]

Good Lord *facepalm*

Why can't they make the new dualshock bigger?!?1

I'm so sick of having to use a controller that feels like it was designed for a toddler's hands, and I hate spending money on 3rd party peripherals.

Vari3ty

This. So I'll most likely have to choose between a seriously underpowered console or one that makes my hands cramp up like crazy... ugh.

Or you could buy a 3rd party controller if it really that big an issue for you.
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"]Why release in US first? That place is garbage cainetao11
You folks would be speaking German or Japanese without us and Russia. That's why your gov stays so close to us now.

I already speak German
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[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

[QUOTE="Boddicker"]

Good Lord *facepalm*

Why can't they make the new dualshock bigger?!?1

I'm so sick of having to use a controller that feels like it was designed for a toddler's hands, and I hate spending money on 3rd party peripherals.

DerekLoffin

This. So I'll most likely have to choose between a seriously underpowered console or one that makes my hands cramp up like crazy... ugh.

Or you could buy a 3rd party controller if it really that big an issue for you.

It pisses me off that I have to do that, and I refuse on principle alone.

With all the talk of them redesigning the dualshock I just ass-umed a size increase was mandatory since the majority of gamers are adults now.  I hope I'm not wrong and Sony rectifies this before the PS4 enters production.  Do asians have really small hands?

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Durango :lol:

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Why do Americans insult Europe? They are Europeans ffs, they've just moved to a new continent.
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Funny cos an "Insider" from Sony apparently said they are not trying to beat the Xbox on raw power. Yet here this says it's more powerful. So many conflicting stories. 

super600

I noticed that to.

Sony can beat the Xbox without even trying, that's what he meant.
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It's going to be a long month..

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[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Funny cos an "Insider" from Sony apparently said they are not trying to beat the Xbox on raw power. Yet here this says it's more powerful. So many conflicting stories. 

kuraimen

I noticed that to.

Sony can beat the Xbox without even trying, that's what he meant.

Keep thinking that, Sony has the most to prove next gen. If MS fail with the console they're still a solid business. 

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So wait, Sony said that they were going to let MS make the first move and then say that the PS4 will be more powerful than the nextbox without seeing what it is capable of? Actually I'm not confused at all, that is right up Sony's alley.

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Specs ain't final until they're final. I wouldn't be surprised if Sony or MS change it up before launch.

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Why do Americans insult Europe? They are Europeans ffs, they've just moved to a new continent.BigBoss255

Actually were all African. Since evolution theory says we evolved from there. And before that we were space dust.

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Specs ain't final until they're final. I wouldn't be surprised if Sony or MS change it up before launch.

DarkLink77

I would hope to see MS change to at least 4GB of GDDR5 RAM but that's asking too much.

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#49 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Specs ain't final until they're final. I wouldn't be surprised if Sony or MS change it up before launch.

Blazerdt47

I would hope to see MS change to at least 4GB of GDDR5 RAM but that's asking too much.

Eh... I dunno if that will make that much of a difference. It's faster for sure, but I dunno if a 4GB drop is worth it. But again, I don't know the specs or the numbers.
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Why release in US first? That place is garbage themajormayor
We're the reason Europe even continues to exist, and not the German Global Empire. :cool: "Hey, uh, America, lol, we have an extremely passive-aggressive relationship and currently hate each other. Can you help us fight this war we started that you have no real stake in?"