Duke Nukem Forever Hated by Critics, but Loved by Fans.

• Well I believe it's obvious the game kinda would've taken a hit since its a 15 years old remake and been scrapped and started over to a brand new project over and over again. . But I believe no one cared after so long. They just wanted The Duke back after so many years. . See he was that Solid Snake, Master Chief, Kratos, Commander Shepard, Nathan Drake, Gordon Freeman back in the day. . And the sales perfectly fits him back in. . In my opinion, no one bought Duke Nukem Forever for The game. .They just bought it for The Duke. lol

• I think there will be a more serious and better Duke Nukem right after this one but more serious and worked on. It'll show Gearbox they have a lot of support from fans, but the reviewers will remind them a thing or two to to bring other audiences towards Duke and etc.

Since the people who are fans have been expecting it to release, like, 12 years ago then that makes sense.

For a game that should have been out in 2000, it plays alright.

There is a theory in physcology that says players who have waited 15 years are going to like the game more than someone who just heard about the game. Why? Because they force themselves to like the game because they have been waiting so long.

Even though I have never played the first Duke Nukem, I thought this game would be alright. But you do have some great points Charter.

There will some that do but there are some that will play the game and will force themselves to like it when in actuality they truly deep down think it is an awful game

The "fans" may like it but I doubt many of them will

There is a theory in physcology that says players who have waited 15 years are going to like the game more than someone who just heard about the game. Why? Because they force themselves to like the game because they have been waiting so long.

15strong

its probably right but i've been waiting aince duke 3d and still didnt like it, i just wanted to kill some aliens duke style and they insist on making people waste their time in useless tasks

There will some that do but there are some that will play the game and will force themselves to like it when in actuality they truly deep down think it is an awful game

The "fans" may like it but I doubt many of them will

fueled-system

[QUOTE="15strong"]

There is a theory in physcology that says players who have waited 15 years are going to like the game more than someone who just heard about the game. Why? Because they force themselves to like the game because they have been waiting so long.

Krelian-co

its probably right but i've been waiting aince duke 3d and still didnt like it, i just wanted to kill some aliens duke style and they insist on making people waste their time in useless tasks

I really see this kind of thing happening in the PC gamer review. They say the reason the game has a bad story is to make fun and point out that other shooters have bad stories. Just complete denial.

I'm loving the game so far. The single player is interesting but I haven't played enough to really judge yet.

The multi player was a blast from what I've played, definitely not the highest quality, but I'm having fun with it. The Lag is pretty unbearable, however. I don't know if it was because I played it immediately once it unlocked on Steam, or if it's just that bad, but if it wasn't so laggy it would be even more fun.

Edit: The game was gifted to me by my friend (wasn't really planning on picking it up) and I haven't played past duke games.

No, the fans are not loving DNF. No one is.Remmib

PC gamers are, and I will be tomorrow.

[QUOTE="Remmib"]No, the fans are not loving DNF. No one is.ChubbyGuy40

PC gamers are, and I will be tomorrow.

Not this PC gamer.

From what I understand, some people are appreciating the Duke humor but that's as far as consistency goes. Other than that it seems to pretty generic as far as shooters go and really bad fan service.

I said it once I said it a million times, what's once more:

I never expected DNF to be mind blowing, and the 10+ development cycle greatly hurt it, especially if you know the history. Even then, I want the game to be a success. If Gearbox gets a chance to put out their Duke Nukem (DNF isn't their's, its still very much 3D Realms' game) with the proper development cycle and attention, I bet it would be an awesome game. So I really hope despite reception this game sells well enough to warrant a sequel.

From what I read on other forums fans dislike it as well.

I'm having a blast. It's good ole Duke and better than a lot of the rehashed, recycled FPS games out there. People who were expecting DNF to be revolutionary and innovative were smoking something fierce. That isn't what Duke Nukem is about. This was more like a game that was never suppose to come out, but Gearbox wanted to deliver it to the fans, once and for all. A final tribute to Duke Nukem and his fans. Enjoy the game folks.Elann2008

I gotta know this. WTF is the humor like? Just slightly read some of the Destructoid review before I noticed it was Jim Sterling doing the review again and while awful, it was better than IGN's and many others. He claims hes a fan of the humor, but theres no humor in it. I find that very freaking hard to believe and he's just bashing something that isn't CoD again.

Also how are the graphics? People make them out to be god-ugly but actually I thought the PC version was pretty decent.

I said it once I said it a million times, what's once more:

I never expected DNF to be mind blowing, and the 10+ development cycle greatly hurt it, especially if you know the history. Even then, I want the game to be a success. If Gearbox gets a chance to put out their Duke Nukem (DNF isn't their's, its still very much 3D Realms' game) with the proper development cycle and attention, I bet it would be an awesome game. So I really hope despite reception this game sells well enough to warrant a sequel.

IndianaPwns39

They own the franchise. They can do a whole new game that doesn't take 14 years to make. I can't wait if they do.

[QUOTE="Elann2008"]I'm having a blast. It's good ole Duke and better than a lot of the rehashed, recycled FPS games out there. People who were expecting DNF to be revolutionary and innovative were smoking something fierce. That isn't what Duke Nukem is about. This was more like a game that was never suppose to come out, but Gearbox wanted to deliver it to the fans, once and for all. A final tribute to Duke Nukem and his fans. Enjoy the game folks.ChubbyGuy40

I gotta know this. WTF is the humor like? Just slightly read some of the Destructoid review before I noticed it was Jim Sterling doing the review again and while awful, it was better than IGN's and many others. He claims hes a fan of the humor, but theres no humor in it. I find that very freaking hard to believe and he's just bashing something that isn't CoD again.

Also how are the graphics? People make them out to be god-ugly but actually I thought the PC version was pretty decent.

well it runs off UE2.5 but still looks fairly average tbh i would say its on par with say MW in some aspects on consoles its bout the same in fidelity but my only problem is the odd frame rate chug when it gets heavy going but i guess thatts down to engine and the ports.

Animations are bout fallout 3 level,dated and would say the character models are just slightly above their level on consoles.

Level's arent totally linear like people will make out on here sometimes you've got to bugger off and find something like a battery or figure out how to open a door etc which mixes it up a little.

Pretty sure if this released in say 2006-7 it would have been a fairly servicable 8 or 9 but y'know cod came along.

[QUOTE="Elann2008"]I'm having a blast. It's good ole Duke and better than a lot of the rehashed, recycled FPS games out there. People who were expecting DNF to be revolutionary and innovative were smoking something fierce. That isn't what Duke Nukem is about. This was more like a game that was never suppose to come out, but Gearbox wanted to deliver it to the fans, once and for all. A final tribute to Duke Nukem and his fans. Enjoy the game folks.ChubbyGuy40

I gotta know this. WTF is the humor like? Just slightly read some of the Destructoid review before I noticed it was Jim Sterling doing the review again and while awful, it was better than IGN's and many others. He claims hes a fan of the humor, but theres no humor in it. I find that very freaking hard to believe and he's just bashing something that isn't CoD again.

Also how are the graphics? People make them out to be god-ugly but actually I thought the PC version was pretty decent.

Does it make any sense to say that the game feels a bit (in fact, a lot) ... rushed ? It seems they were running out of time and opted to include some very irrelevant sequences in lack of some good levels (the 'dream' Duke has after he kills the 3tit Queen seems absolutely out of place and not connected to anything story or gameplay-wise) to lengthen the game.

the game is also well hated by fans

most of them are still waiting for that unreal 3 engine remake, i say just grab a high res pack, but ah well

Even though I have never played the first Duke Nukem, I thought this game would be alright. But you do have some great points Charter.

VensInferno

I really see this kind of thing happening in the PC gamer review. They say the reason the game has a bad story is to make fun and point out that other shooters have bad stories. Just complete denial.

That is not how you parody something. You don't make something suck because everything else sucks then defend your product by saying, "Yeah, it sucks, it was supposed to, so that makes it good." The game really should have been the 90s action parody Duke Nukem seeing the world as it is now. Have him as a washed up hero trying to reclaim his old glory. Have him in a Call of Duty parody level, : Duke theme plays: "What the **** is a reflex scope!?" : Duke meets up with soldiers: "Duke plant some C4 on this wall to destory it." : Duke Nukem uses his size 13 boot to bring down not only the wall but the building: : Duke Nukem arrives in a parody of Halo, shrinks and kills the MC, the grunts overthrow the rest of the covenant military as they all try to run away from Duke Nukem: : Duke Nukem gets in a flying combat simulator: "Altitude warnings are for *******." :flys into space to combat aliens powering the ship with his ego:

There was no thought put into this game from the look of it, not even any new guns.

[QUOTE="IndianaPwns39"]

I said it once I said it a million times, what's once more:

I never expected DNF to be mind blowing, and the 10+ development cycle greatly hurt it, especially if you know the history. Even then, I want the game to be a success. If Gearbox gets a chance to put out their Duke Nukem (DNF isn't their's, its still very much 3D Realms' game) with the proper development cycle and attention, I bet it would be an awesome game. So I really hope despite reception this game sells well enough to warrant a sequel.

ChubbyGuy40

They own the franchise. They can do a whole new game that doesn't take 14 years to make. I can't wait if they do.

Exactly. Gearbox hasn't really disappointed me and the love for the Duke franchise is there so I think they could really make an awesome game.

All the Duke fans I know hate it thus far. You'll find out what I think soon enough :)

The game looks good and it's on par with some of today's games. On the other hand, there are some frame rate hiccups here and there, but overall, it's smooth.

Elann2008

I was a fan of the original and after seeing a few hours of this new game I can safely say I hate it.

The trailers for Duke Nukem Forever are far better than that actual game in the end.

All the Duke fans I know hate it thus far. You'll find out what I think soon enough :)

Kevin-V

Im enjoying it for what it is tbh xD nothing more nothing less.Got it out asda for £33 last night and tbh average FPS with some good humour.

Defo gonna say its a 6-7 here..its no worse than brink on consoles mind you i detest that and liked this.

There's quite a decent amount of games that the fans love but critics dislike. Hell I play most of them. >_>

All the Duke fans I know hate it thus far. You'll find out what I think soon enough :)

Kevin-V

Maybe you'll will really like the game and give it 10?

:P

[QUOTE="Elann2008"] The game looks good and it's on par with some of today's games. On the other hand, there are some frame rate hiccups here and there, but overall, it's smooth.

Kevin-V

Did you by chance review the PC or console versions, or both? Just wondering since the reviews seem to vastly differ.

I thought it looked pretty decent from just the demo. I'd say about Homefront good. That game looked a lot better than I thought it would on PC.

I have been hearing negative feedback from fans as well it isn awful.

Couldn't a critic be a fan? If anything most of them should be a bit older and they could be influenced by nostalgia ...

Can't say I hold critics in greater esteem than (non rabid) fans of a given series to be honest.... Apart from the handsome, intelligent and wonderfully charming Kevin V, I see most of them fall victim to pseudo intellectualism, their own fandom, severe schizophrenia in regards to objectivis and their own humanity.

It's not that I find them almost below human.... Actually, that's it!!! They're just people too!

Disclaimer: I'm not even entertaining the idea that Duke is good game.

I'm just saying that critics give out great scores to trash all the time, yet also manage to to go straight for Dukes throat, even if his junk is of the big dumn fun kind, that leaves you feeling dirty but satisfied.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"][QUOTE="Remmib"]No, the fans are not loving DNF. No one is.NeonNinja

All the Duke fans I know hate it thus far. You'll find out what I think soon enough :)

Kevin-V

There is a theory in physcology that says players who have waited 15 years are going to like the game more than someone who just heard about the game. Why? Because they force themselves to like the game because they have been waiting so long.

15strong

Seems to me that duke nukem is good ol'stupid fun blow stuff up cause its kick ass fun...etc...etc and Critics dont like that even though some have actually said they want a game like that.

Since the people who are fans have been expecting it to release, like, 12 years ago then that makes sense.

For a game that should have been out in 2000, it plays alright.

SPYDER0416

Everything I've read indicates that Duke Nukem Forever is a great nostalgic ride for Duke Nukem fans but is otherwise mediocre to average.

There is a theory in physcology that says players who have waited 15 years are going to like the game more than someone who just heard about the game. Why? Because they force themselves to like the game because they have been waiting so long.

15strong

No, the fans are not loving DNF. No one is.Remmib

Oh please...

[QUOTE="Remmib"]No, the fans are not loving DNF. No one is.speedfog

Oh please...