do you prefer 30 FPS over 60 FPS?

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Poll do you prefer 30 FPS over 60 FPS? (219 votes)

yes 12%
no 88%

Iv'e seen many people talking about the cinematic experience of 30 FPS and that they prefer it. i don't see how 30 FPS makes a game more cinematic. some people even say that they can't see the difference between 30 FPS and 60 FPS (source: youtube comments). so if you prefer 30 over 60 in even one game, then select yes. and also please mention if you can clearly see the diff between them both, because i can. (note: this is not a flame topic, i just wanted to know what y'all think)

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#151 I_Even_Lift
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@speak_low:

lol on a scale of 1 to 10 how rekt do you feel right now? ;)

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#152 GreySeal9
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@ConanTheStoner said:
@GreySeal9 said:

lol.

Yeah, speak_low is pretty nutty when it comes to Nintendo.

Yeah, it's unreal man.

@speak_low:

Congrats, you win. I'm actually going to read this monster of a post.

@speak_low said:

I just read enough.....I took a peek.....I glanced.........Get real.

Only being honest with you bruh. Nothing against you, I rarely read lengthy posts on this board. Even from the non-shit posters. Shit posters like you? Once in a blue moon. Today is the day, congrats bro.

I also realized you did make a post in here already about frame rates, because it was quoted on page 3 (a few posts above). So turns out you are one of those who wanted 720p/60fps as an option. Maybe I trampled on some Sheep feet with my post, and it got you mad.

Yep, I prefer performance over resolution. Actually I prefer having both which is one of the reasons I game primarily on a PC. But if push comes to shove? Performance gets the win for me.

And yes I am a Wii U owner.... and a PS4 owner... and a PC owner... and I'll probably end up being an Xbone owner. No corporate slave here man, I just like games.

None of your shit-posts involving your Nintendo obsession are going to offend me, please don't flatter yourself.

Once again though, somehow my preference for performance makes me some Nintendo slave. Do you not see how nutty this makes you look? Do you not find it strange that you take these things that have nothing to do with Nintendo and turn them into some conspiracy based crusade?

But you're so obsessed with that one mention of Nintendo/Wii U in this thread. One is too much! You seem to want to put me through some radical molecular restructuring and make all my future criticisms towards Nintendo softer, more pleasant. You also want me to post 80% less about Nintendo and to redistribute my angst towards Sony, MS and PC.

Not at all. Reading comprehension bro.

I criticize Nintendo constantly. They have a mountain of faults worth calling out. Hell, Mirkos shits on Nintendo like it's a full time job. He makes you look an intern by comparison. Yet he's one of the better posters on this board. Champ. I consider him to be one of the more realistic/non-biased posters around here and he shits on Nintendo all the time.

Difference between us and you? Our criticisms are legitimate and within context. You? You try to shoehorn Nintendo into discussions where they don't belong. You go out of your way to bring up Nintendo. Nobody even mentioned Nintendo in this thread. This thread isn't even about platforms. Yet you set up the straw man and went to town with it.

That's why I'm poking fun at you. That's why I'm telling you that you're obsessed. That's why I'm laughing at your expense.

(rinse and repeat this block for most of your post(s) ^)

There's no "childhood trauma" or "inappropriate touching" or wherever you were trying to go with that tired joke.

I said neither of those things, but I'm sure you hear it enough haha. And for good reason. Maybe it's time for you to take a look in the mirror.

Anyways. I'm sure none of this will sink in. It will all fly right over your head as usual. Rather than you realizing that I'm simply pointing out your foolishness, you'll try turning it around like I'm defending Nintendo because you're a robot and that's all you know how to do.

Rofl! You just got sonned into oblivion, speak_low.

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#153 tushar172787
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@BIOKILLER123 said:
@Caseytappy said:

Do you prefer 10 dollars over 100 dollars ?

Lol.

i'll take 10$ because it's less likely to be fake.

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#154 tushar172787
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@spitfire-six said:

Would you rather drive a Ferrari or a ford focus ?

it depends.. is the insurance free? is it damaged? will they pay for importing it to my country since the tax is the same price as the car...

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#155  Edited By foxhound_fox
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30 is better than sub-24, but I'm not sure how anyone in their right mind could prefer 30 to 60.

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#156 BobRossPerm
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Playing a game, it's pretty objective that 60fps > 30fps. However, I prefer to have video play back at a cinematic 30fps because it adds something for me. It's subjective at that point but for games, if you can go 60, do it.

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#157  Edited By tushar172787
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@foxhound_fox said:

30 is better than sub-24, but I'm not sure how anyone in their right mind could prefer 30 to 60.

look below.

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#158 BIOKILLER123
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@tushar172787 said:
@BIOKILLER123 said:
@Caseytappy said:

Do you prefer 10 dollars over 100 dollars ?

Lol.

i'll take 10$ because it's less likely to be fake.

Ok, lmao.

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#159 tushar172787
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@BIOKILLER123 said:
@tushar172787 said:
@BIOKILLER123 said:
@Caseytappy said:

Do you prefer 10 dollars over 100 dollars ?

Lol.

i'll take 10$ because it's less likely to be fake.

Ok, lmao.

i don't trust casey to give me 100$, it's too suspicious.

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#161 jsmoke03
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60 fps for most games...

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#162 FoxbatAlpha
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I prefer my console to not be CPU bound. Aka the PS4.

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#163 ConanTheStoner
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And nothing was learned.

Stay in school kids.

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#164 jg4xchamp
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@speak_low said:

60fps is always preferred, but when we're talking about the realistic developer trade-offs between "720p/60fps" or "1080p/30fps" (where 1080p/60fps is out of the question of too difficult), many will easily choose 1080p/30fps.

I've noticed that Nintendo owners act so disgusted with PS4/X1, and say all console games should follow the Wii U's "brilliant" choice of 720p/60fps, but who the hell listens to them. One of the reasons their console is struggling is because a majority of last-gen gamers want to move away from the 720p/30fps games they've been stuck with for over 7-8 years. They're used to the frame rate, but they're tired of the muddiness.

A 1080p/30fps is a better jump. Want 1080p/60fps for every single game, even Uncharted 4 and The Order? Then Sony's going to have to make a really expensive console that won't sell as well.

And how terrible would it be for the many great talented developers and artists who have to live through another generation of 720p console graphics, after coming out of a long 7-8 year one already? So 15 years of 720p? lmao. Nintendo actually thought their 480p-720p 15-year-plan was genius, I bet.

"Many will choose" is argumentum ad populum. It doesn't make it better or even justified, it just makes it popular. Because selling a game on something shallow like how pretty it looks, how big the world is, how much of a lolvideogamestory it has is easier than selling framerate, because with that they would actually have to sell interesting gameplay.

60 frames is smoother and precise, and all around better looking to boot, it's why the PC snobs actually have objective reasons for why the PC is superior, and when it comes to defending consoles all the console fans can come up with is "preference". As in not facts.

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#165 tushar172787
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@ConanTheStoner said:

And nothing was learned.

Stay in school kids.

now that's true.

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#167 TheEroica  Moderator
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I don't mind 30 unless I've been playing something in 60 and have to go back... Its noticeable.

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#168 clyde46
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@bobrossperm said:

Playing a game, it's pretty objective that 60fps > 30fps. However, I prefer to have video play back at a cinematic 30fps because it adds something for me. It's subjective at that point but for games, if you can go 60, do it.

I can agree with that. I had a go at filming myself driving at 60FPS and it looks rather odd yet playing video games at 60FPS or more is just fine.

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#169 lundy86_4
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Oh, Hell no.

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#170 BobRossPerm
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@clyde46 said:
@bobrossperm said:

Playing a game, it's pretty objective that 60fps > 30fps. However, I prefer to have video play back at a cinematic 30fps because it adds something for me. It's subjective at that point but for games, if you can go 60, do it.

I can agree with that. I had a go at filming myself driving at 60FPS and it looks rather odd yet playing video games at 60FPS or more is just fine.

Yeah, it's more what you're used to than it being superior. We are used to watching 35/70 mil movies at 24fps and it looks more natural to us. Ironically, vastly cheaper TV shows are using 48fps digital cameras and it sure does look smoother, but cheaper at the same time.

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#171 Gue1
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@GreySeal9 said:
@ConanTheStoner said:

@speak_low:

It's impressive how you can turn any subject into Nintendo salt.

Here we go. World War II. Choose any battle and tell me how it relates to Nintendo sucking. Go!

lol.

Yeah, speak_low is pretty nutty when it comes to Nintendo.

and you're pretty nutty when it comes to me.

But, are you ever gonna tell me why you took a day to chase me around the forum to nitpick my posting behavior? Because I'm still waiting for that answer nutty grey.

Why were you so butthurt?

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There are rare circumstances and I mean RARE where a 30 FPS presentation better suits the environmental, mechanical and style of game over that of 60 FPS. A higher framerate is obviously superior, you are getting twice the amount of frames, however it can detract from certain game experiences. The whole 'cinematic' feel argument is not delusion, the fluidity of motion changes the entire look, feel and nuance of the game, for some games it can appear too fluid and not filmic enough if that is what the developer was going for. The Resident Evil remake is a prime example of this, 30 FPS looks, feels and plays properly for that specific game, 60 FPS looks too fast, it's just too fluid and make everything appear far too real time.

This reminds me of The Hobbit and their decision to film the movie at 48 FPS, it ruined the cinematic value of the film. It was very comparable to the smooth motion capabilities on TV's that exists today, this is called the Soap Opera effect, the same thing exists in games.

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#173 clyde46
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@bobrossperm said:
@clyde46 said:
@bobrossperm said:

Playing a game, it's pretty objective that 60fps > 30fps. However, I prefer to have video play back at a cinematic 30fps because it adds something for me. It's subjective at that point but for games, if you can go 60, do it.

I can agree with that. I had a go at filming myself driving at 60FPS and it looks rather odd yet playing video games at 60FPS or more is just fine.

Yeah, it's more what you're used to than it being superior. We are used to watching 35/70 mil movies at 24fps and it looks more natural to us. Ironically, vastly cheaper TV shows are using 48fps digital cameras and it sure does look smoother, but cheaper at the same time.

TV doesn't use 48fps, that was what the Hobbit used because people were feeling sick watching it in 3d. TV shows normally use with 25/50fps for PAL regions and 30/60fps for NTSC. Not sure what SECAM uses but its French and they wanted to be a unquie snowflake.

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#174  Edited By GreySeal9
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@Gue1 said:
@GreySeal9 said:
@ConanTheStoner said:

@speak_low:

It's impressive how you can turn any subject into Nintendo salt.

Here we go. World War II. Choose any battle and tell me how it relates to Nintendo sucking. Go!

lol.

Yeah, speak_low is pretty nutty when it comes to Nintendo.

and you're pretty nutty when it comes to me.

But, are you ever gonna tell me why you took a day to chase me around the forum to nitpick my posting behavior? Because I'm still waiting for that answer nutty grey.

Why were you so butthurt?

lol at you still being butthurt. Let it go for you own sake.

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#175 deactivated-59d151f079814
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60 fps (hell 144fps) any day.. The only games I am indifferent on with those fps are slower paced games like turn based strategy games or games such as Telltale games like The Wolf Among Us.

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#176  Edited By bulby_g
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Definitely not. Although I will sacrifice 60fps for better graphics settings on certain games that I'm playing with a controller if I need to.

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#177 Halo2-Best-FPS
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I'll have to settle with 30 fps, since all the graphics kings currently use that setting. (The Order)

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#179 delta3074
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i don't are as long as it's not below 30fps, Below 30fps and you get input Lag, saying that, anyone who says they prefer a lower framerate over a higher one is a sandwich short of a picnic.

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#181 Bruin1986
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You can't "prefer" 30 fps over 60 fps. It's objectively worse. It's like preferring to have $5 over $10.

However, what you can "prefer" is that system resources are used to improve graphics, physics, scale, etc. with the additional horsepower you save from only targeting 30 fps.

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#182 darkangel115
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can we have a 3rd option of "don't care as long as the game is good"

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#183 PrincessGomez92
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Well, I prefer playing The Last of Us in 60 FPS over 30.

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#184 lordlors
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@Wasdie said:

What a stupid question.

High framerate is always better. That is not up for debate. People accept lower framerates because that's what they are given. Nobody would willingly ask for a lower framerate.

I think a better question would be why the film industry doesn't go for 60fps.

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#185 360ru13r
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Sorry for this caps lock but

MORE CINEMATIC MY A$$.

Serious Ubisoft and any developer who finds the game to be more cinematic running less than 45 FPS ( I can understand 60 FPS with the PS4 and Xbox One running at 1080P is a bit of a stretch) is absolute BULL. Give me a game that runs at a nice 45 FPS and never dips below 30 and I'm good. Next gen I expect all games to run at 1080p at 60 frames or 4K at 45FPS or else. EMPHASIS ON OR ELSE. By the way I know the PC can do 1080p at 60 FPS I just don't feel like spending a decent bit of money to doing it or using the configuring around a computer to do it.

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#186 VanDammFan
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I dont care if a game is 5fps..seriously..you kids and your specs list. Just play your games and be quiet..

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#187 ConanTheStoner
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@VanDammFan said:

I dont care if a game is 5fps..seriously..you kids and your specs list. Just play your games and be quiet..

lol I'm pretty sure you would dude. Most games would be unplayable at that point.

I'm not one to sit around and split hairs over over pixel counting, anti aliasing, poly counts, texture resolution, etc. I mean shit man, I still dip into games as far back as the NES regularly.

However, framerate has a very direct effect on gameplay. It's not just one of those icing on the cake type deals. It's always been an important factor.

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#188 tushar172787
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@360ru13r said:

Sorry for this caps lock but

MORE CINEMATIC MY A$$.

Serious Ubisoft and any developer who finds the game to be more cinematic running less than 45 FPS ( I can understand 60 FPS with the PS4 and Xbox One running at 1080P is a bit of a stretch) is absolute BULL. Give me a game that runs at a nice 45 FPS and never dips below 30 and I'm good. Next gen I expect all games to run at 1080p at 60 frames or 4K at 45FPS or else. EMPHASIS ON OR ELSE. By the way I know the PC can do 1080p at 60 FPS I just don't feel like spending a decent bit of money to doing it or using the configuring around a computer to do it.

so many kids defend their consoles against PC with the said "teh cinematic feel"

@ConanTheStoner said:
@VanDammFan said:

I dont care if a game is 5fps..seriously..you kids and your specs list. Just play your games and be quiet..

lol I'm pretty sure you would dude. Most games would be unplayable at that point.

I'm not one to sit around and split hairs over over pixel counting, anti aliasing, poly counts, texture resolution, etc. I mean shit man, I still dip into games as far back as the NES regularly.

However, framerate has a very direct effect on gameplay. It's not just one of those icing on the cake type deals. It's always been an important factor.

framerate is the single most important aspect of gaming.

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#189 tushar172787
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@jsmoke03 said:

60 fps for most games...

and the others? what would you choose?

@I_Even_Lift said:

@speak_low:

lol on a scale of 1 to 10 how rekt do you feel right now? ;)

rekt is rekt, it is a fixed quantity, it cannot be measured.

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#190 silversix_
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My doctor told me that i can't see past 30fps. Like im sorry but i think a doctor knows better than some nerds on a gaming forum. 60fps is simply not needed, end of story.

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#191 -God-
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30 fps, it is more cinematic.

lol @m3dude1

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#192 tushar172787
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@-God- said:

30 fps, it is more cinematic.

lol @m3dude1

"dat cinematic experience"

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#193 DragonfireXZ95
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@tushar172787 said:
@BIOKILLER123 said:
@Caseytappy said:

Do you prefer 10 dollars over 100 dollars ?

Lol.

i'll take 10$ because it's less likely to be fake.

You must be hard up for money, but your answer would indicate that 60 fps might not be a real thing... which we all know, it is.

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#194 tushar172787
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@DragonfireXZ95 said:
@tushar172787 said:
@BIOKILLER123 said:
@Caseytappy said:

Do you prefer 10 dollars over 100 dollars ?

Lol.

i'll take 10$ because it's less likely to be fake.

You must be hard up for money, but your answer would indicate that 60 fps might not be a real thing... which we all know, it is.

read my previous posts, i was just joking. i'll take 60 FPS any day over 30 FPS...

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#195 zeeshanhaider
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subs 30FPS because I'm a cow and my system can only do so much.

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#196 -God-
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@mr_huggles_dog

@zeeshanhaider said:

subs 30FPS because I'm a cow and my system can only do so much.

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#197 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@-God- said:

@mr_huggles_dog

@zeeshanhaider said:

subs 30FPS because I'm a cow and my system can only do so much.

I don't get it...why did you tag me?

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#198 Mr_Huggles_dog
Member since 2014 • 7805 Posts

@FoxbatAlpha said:

I prefer my console to not be CPU bound. Aka the PS4.

The X1 is worse that the PS4 so when in doubt....lems just trash the PS4.

Thats so pathetic.

At least stand by your machine of choice.

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#199 zassimick  Moderator
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Well I prefer 60fps, but honestly I just want stable framerate at 30 or 60. I don't care for when it fluctuates either from 30 to 20 or 60 to 45.

Feels off when that happens.

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#200 FoxbatAlpha
Member since 2009 • 10669 Posts

@mr_huggles_dog: Dat CPU has you mad bro. Don't deny it.

Have a great day though!