Digital Foundry: Thief is better on Xbox One

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#101 Edited by R4gn4r0k (16139 posts) -

@topgunmv said:

Apparently it runs like ass on pc too.

Nope, the game is greatly optimized and runs really well.

I can max out the game on my mid-end PC from 3 years ago at a higher FPS and higher resolution than the console versions, lol

#102 Posted by FragTycoon (6430 posts) -

Lems don't understand the implications of touting this game as their savior.

In bragging about the (arguably) better version of Thief they unknowingly validate every other multiplat in favor of PS4.

No one ever said said they were a smart bunch.

#103 Posted by hoosier7 (3700 posts) -

Odd, the X1 version has similar issues with texture streaming that DF didn't mention.

#104 Edited by I_can_haz (6492 posts) -

@PinkieWinkie said:

I am not sure how the xone version is the best, it says in the article the PS4 has higher res and frame rate, the xone just has better texture filtering. I would take res and frames any day.

Same here but since lems are visually challenged they prefer blurrier and choppier games for some reason lol

#105 Edited by tormentos (16545 posts) -

@hoosier7 said:

Odd, the X1 version has similar issues with texture streaming that DF didn't mention.

But but is impossible they are ultra neutral and will never do that,just like they forgot to mention lack of Parallax mapping on xbox one as well,which gives depth feel to textures..hahaha

This is indisputable proof that DF sugar coated problem on xbox one,to try to claim the xbox one version was superior,hell both look identical but the xbox one has pop in shadows and some object far up also light all of the sudden to PS4 level..lol

Hahahaha where is Delta now...

#106 Edited by handssss (1654 posts) -

@me3x12: every multiplat thus far....lol wat?

apparently 1 game, maybe even 2 or 3 = every single game. Let's forget all the cases in the past where the same sources being used here already disagree with that statement.

#108 Posted by I_can_haz (6492 posts) -

@hoosier7 said:

Odd, the X1 version has similar issues with texture streaming that DF didn't mention.

TLHBO.

#109 Posted by tormentos (16545 posts) -

@me3x12 said:

Cows BUTTHURT at massive levels today

Hahahahaa that denial....hahaha

But but DF say...hahahhaa

Owned..

#110 Edited by hoosier7 (3700 posts) -

@tormentos: It's odd, seems like a poor comparison.

They used an SSD on the PC version when other users are apparently experiencing the same slow texture loads with HDDs.

They don't mention the texture streaming issues on the X1 version.

No mention of the missing POM on the X1 version.

They suddenly don't value framerate now too. The game is painfully choppy in general but i find it a bit unbearable in the X1 version. 18fps is just too damn low at points.

Eitherway this is a game to avoid unless it gets patched. The latency, stutter and framerate seems horrible.

#111 Posted by topgunmv (10064 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k: It might specifically be a driver issue, but I saw people with 670's and 780's complaining about poor performance in the pc forums.

#112 Edited by FragTycoon (6430 posts) -

We not talking about Infamous: SS or TitanFall..... we talking about Thief...

(teehee)

#113 Posted by ACP_45 (428 posts) -

@tormentos: Tomentos your fanboyism is making the Sony nation look bad even though you don’t even have a PS4..........or did you finally buy the damn thing ?

Also you laugh way too much.. -__-

“hahahahahah” “hahahaahah"

#114 Edited by ACP_45 (428 posts) -

@delta3074:

@tormentos said:
@delta3074 said:

how am i in denial? the fact is that DF gave the xbone the win due to the fact that the Ps4 version has more pop-in, worse texture filtering and blurrier textures over distance.

Texture filtering, pop-in and blurry are quite a big deal you know but you keep acting as if Resolution is the only important thing when it comes to graphics.

Resolution and parallax mapping mean nothing if your texture filtering isn't up to scratch.

DF on purpose downplayed the PS4 advantage which are more than 1 i may add,but not only that if didn't talk about all the xbox one disadvantages either like Parallax mapping how the fu** can they do that.? They were catch trying to favor the xbox one version on purpose.

The xbox one version dropping to 20 FPS,while also been 900p,no parallax mapping and very notable screen tearing,it really look like they wanted the xbox one to win one,this game doesn't even look better than Tomb Raider than can't even run at 1080p on xbox one and still drop more frames.

The video show a texture streaming problem and it has been noted on neogaf,in fact in that screen you just quoted it show the textures are better on the PS4 side,also dropping into unplayable is a BIG deal,so is not having parallax mapping which is very easy to spot,look at the textures on the floor how they look lifted yet on the xbox one they look flat.

'In computer graphics, texture filtering or texture smoothing is the method used to determine the texture color for a texture mapped pixel, using the colors of nearby texels (pixels of the texture). Mathematically, texture filtering is a type of anti-aliasing (AA), but it filters out high frequencies from the texture fill whereas other AA techniques generally focus on visual edges. Put simply, it allows a texture to be applied at many different shapes, sizes and angles while minimizing blurriness, shimmering and blocking.'

'Parallax mapping (also called offset mapping or virtual displacement mapping) is an enhancement of the bump mapping or normal mapping techniques applied to textures in 3D rendering applications such as video games. To the end user, this means that textures such as stone walls will have more apparent depth and thus greater realism with less of an influence on the performance of the simulation.'

parallax mapping isn't any sort of advantage if you have blurry textures lack of AA or shimmering, in other words, poor texture filtering kind of negates any advantage that parallax mapping would give in the first place, if you can't actually see the greater depth or realism because of blurry textures then whats the point?

so basically you have more realistic blurry textures, well done.

LMAO !!

Dude Tormentos lost this...

I always want to challenge him on his statements that aren’t false but never hit on target and evades spot on truth.

Even though you just showed him wrong...

You still lost this argument because Tormentos is the most hard headed sony fanatic in here...

He will now research everything about parallax mapping, texture filtering.... and he’ll reply to you with something that was said in a an article etc..... that’s most likely outdated or just simply make something up....

Prepare to be dominated.

#115 Posted by Krelian-co (10091 posts) -

@PinkieWinkie said:

I am not sure how the xone version is the best, it says in the article the PS4 has higher res and frame rate, the xone just has better texture filtering. I would take res and frames any day.

Same here but since lems are visually challenged they prefer blurrier and choppier games for some reason lol

720p for more cinematic experience

#117 Edited by Spitfire-Six (464 posts) -

Did someone really try and compare parallax mapping with texture filtering?

#118 Edited by PinkieWinkie (1364 posts) -

@blackace: the PS4 doesn't need an upscaled because it runs almost every game at 1080p.

#119 Posted by blackace (19785 posts) -

@blackace: the PS4 doesn't need an upscaled because it runs almost every game at 1080p.

XB1 won't need it by this time next year either. lol!! What about Witcher 3. That will need the PS4 upscaler.

#120 Posted by FragTycoon (6430 posts) -

@blackace said:

@PinkieWinkie said:

@blackace: the PS4 doesn't need an upscaled because it runs almost every game at 1080p.

XB1 won't need it by this time next year either. lol!! What about Witcher 3. That will need the PS4 upscaler.

What is going to happen "this time next year"? Cloud?

#121 Posted by PinkieWinkie (1364 posts) -

@blackace: ok. One game that hasn't released yet. Devs also stated they are working to hit 1080p on the PS4.

By the way, what res is MGS GZ on xone? Because by the comparison video/pictures, it sure as hell doesn't look like the upscaler is doing a damn thing.

#122 Posted by Chutebox (36227 posts) -

@blackace said:

@PinkieWinkie said:

@blackace: the PS4 doesn't need an upscaled because it runs almost every game at 1080p.

XB1 won't need it by this time next year either. lol!! What about Witcher 3. That will need the PS4 upscaler.

What is going to happen "this time next year"? Cloud?

The magical SDK, DUH!

#123 Edited by EducatingU_PCMR (492 posts) -

I haven't used trilinear filtering in 10 years lol

Cows owned.

#124 Posted by TwistedShade (3127 posts) -

So when Thief is announced 900p Xbox One 1080p PS4 cows go crazy and talk about how good the PS4 version will be, and how much crap the Xbox One version will be. But now that the Xbox One version appears to be the better version it's simply "Well nobody cares about Thief crap game". Teh Lolz

#125 Posted by NFJSupreme (5035 posts) -

lol shut up and take this L cows.

#126 Edited by blackace (19785 posts) -

@TwistedShade said:

So when Thief is announced 900p Xbox One 1080p PS4 cows go crazy and talk about how good the PS4 version will be, and how much crap the Xbox One version will be. But now that the Xbox One version appears to be the better version it's simply "Well nobody cares about Thief crap game". Teh Lolz

That's why Cows are hypocrites. They praise DF when they say positive things about the PS4 and their games, but as soon as they say something positive about XB1 and it's multiplat game, Cows go into full Damage Control. LMAO!! Crying and whining about the game sucking and why the PS4 version is better. LOL!! Bunch of clowns. That's some serious entertainment.

#127 Posted by NFJSupreme (5035 posts) -

@hoosier7 said:

Odd, the X1 version has similar issues with texture streaming that DF didn't mention.

one scene doesn't mean shit. If DF said it was a problem on the PS4 that means it happened more often there. Nice damage control. Now hold this L.

#128 Posted by I_can_haz (6492 posts) -

@I_can_haz said:

@PinkieWinkie said:

I am not sure how the xone version is the best, it says in the article the PS4 has higher res and frame rate, the xone just has better texture filtering. I would take res and frames any day.

Same here but since lems are visually challenged they prefer blurrier and choppier games for some reason lol

720p for more cinematic experience

The lemming mantra.

#130 Posted by Bubba03 (471 posts) -

Cows on full DAMAGE CONTROL LOL

#131 Posted by KarateeeChop (4590 posts) -

yet another inferior multiplat for the ps4 :(

#132 Edited by Dire_Weasel (15891 posts) -

Gotta give credit where credit is due. If DF says the IQ is better on the Xbox One version, then so be it.

#133 Edited by ZoomZoom2490 (3934 posts) -

this is why you cant take DF and similar type of sites seriously.

this is how they make their money.

#134 Posted by blackace (19785 posts) -

this is why you cant take DF and similar type of sites seriously.

this is how they make their money.

Unless they are saying something positive about the PS4 and it's games. Then is 100% true. lmao!! Like the Tomb Raider comparisons. It was a 100% true with that game. I bet every cow took it 100% seriously for that game, but not Thief. lmao!! Hypocrites. Cows are in full meltdown today.

#136 Edited by ReadingRainbow4 (12851 posts) -

@Suppaman100 said:

LMFAO, look at these delusional lemmings.

But hey atleast they have kinect....

lmfao dat gif. Perfect.

Really this just seems like a bug, Strider on ps4 had the same thing with texture filtering.

#137 Edited by Sagemode87 (783 posts) -

@KarateeeChop: I see you came out from under the woodwork. How does it feel.

#138 Edited by Stringerboy (6892 posts) -

@Salt_The_Fries said:

I don't know why GrenadeLauncher is such a zealous cow.

Such is the life of a Sony shill.

#139 Posted by OmegaPillow (1039 posts) -

I wonder how many lemmings actually own this game . Looks like crap

#140 Edited by ominous_titan (458 posts) -

So DF is law only when they proclaim Sony does something better but this time they don't so DF has no clue? Oh Noone cares about thief so it doesn't matter anyway? Have fun with your infamous 6/10 cows.

#141 Posted by arkephonic (6208 posts) -

Must have been a typo on Digital Foundry's part. 1080p > 900p. Apparently the frame rate is worse on the XB1 as well. Apparently less is more now adays.

#142 Posted by clone01 (24183 posts) -

Eh, whatever. I've yet to play it, but I heard its not all that great of a game.

#143 Posted by killatwill15 (845 posts) -

@hoosier7 said:

Odd, the X1 version has similar issues with texture streaming that DF didn't mention.

one scene doesn't mean shit. If DF said it was a problem on the PS4 that means it happened more often there. Nice damage control. Now hold this L.

just like a true lemming,

you just owned yourself and no one else

#144 Edited by resevl4rlz (3230 posts) -

i don't understand how you aren't banned yet. please stop making crap topics

#145 Posted by Krelian-co (10091 posts) -

i don't understand how you aren't banned yet. please stop making crap topics

because mods are useless in sw

#146 Posted by m_machine024 (14845 posts) -

I'd rather take the version with less visuals problems than the one with more pixels. The difference between 900p and 1080p is barely noticeable anyway.

#147 Edited by SelfReflect (116 posts) -

My god, so many delusional xbot shills in this thread

No one cares about Theif.

Theif is a visually unimpressive Unreal Engine 3 game and still they couldnt even hit 1080p on XB1 lol

They enabled Anisotropic Filtering on PS4 (one of the most inexpensive settings to crank up on PC, I might add) and yet the PS4 version is still nearly "identical" to the xbone version despite the PS4 having SIGNIFICANT much more power then the xbone

So you can tell the PS4 version was "held back" from what It couldve truly done. Im glad people are calling this bullshit out for what it is

But at the end of the day, both console versions suffer from aliasing issues and frequent framedrops

You xboners and Microsoftlimpdick shills are campaigning this shitty visually uninpressive game around as some sort of "victory." Just pathetic.

98% of multi-plats have been VASTLY superior on PS4 and will continue to be on PS4 ! What about that xbots.

Hell, can you xbots even read because if you actually read the damn text, the PS4 version STILL ekes out the XB1 version (just shouldve been by more since PS4 has way more power)

1080p vs 900p and a better (albeit also shitty) framerate on PS4 certainly trumps anisotropic filtering on xbone

Its time to use common sense. Digital Foundry found the xbone better despite the PS4 version having a better resolution and better frame rate. How much more blatant can they get

The article should have just lead with both versions being complete garbage though, instead of trying to evelate one shitshow over the other.

Digital Foundry is a joke and has been exposed numerous times in the past for shilling out for Microsoft. Never TRUST anything PRO-xbone that Digital Foundry claims

#148 Posted by SelfReflect (116 posts) -

Lems don't understand the implications of touting this game as their savior.

In bragging about the (arguably) better version of Thief they unknowingly validate every other multiplat in favor of PS4.

No one ever said said they were a smart bunch.

Haha exactly my brother

The PS4 version of Theif still has a better frame rate and a higher resolution....but because Digital Foundry "claims" that Theif is "better" on xbone xboners start going insane trying to campaign this as some sort of "victory"

So then what about EVERY other past multi-plat game that has been SIGNIFICANTLY better on PS4.

That must have been land slide victories for the PS4 then, and like you said, xboners themsefles admit that when they try to claim that Theif - with its lower frame rate and lower resolution is better on xbone

The big advantages the PS4 has had over the xbone in every other past mult-plat game TRUMPS the "differences" here in Theif and TRUMPS the miniscule differences the 360 ever had over the PS3 in multi-plats

Xbox fanboys TRULY are the MOST delusional ever

Xboners are like people from the UK who claim a "victory" when a UK fighter doesnt get Knocked out in the first round but still loses YET ignores every other time a UK fighter gets Knocked out in the first

Xbox fanboys are the WORST OF THE WORST, Just like how Microsoft is the WORST OF THE WORST as a company

#149 Edited by blackace (19785 posts) -

@OmegaPillow said:

I wonder how many lemmings actually own this game . Looks like crap

If they are smart. None. Have the best of the worst is never a good thing.

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@resevl4rlz said:

i don't understand how you aren't banned yet. please stop making crap topics

because mods are useless in sw

You are 100% proof of that. Otherwise you and your companions (I_can_haz, Supperman, Tormentos, FragTycoon and the other 50+ cow cronnies) would have been banned for life by now.

#150 Edited by Bigboi500 (28804 posts) -

I'd rather take the version with less visuals problems than the one with more pixels. The difference between 900p and 1080p is barely noticeable anyway.

I'd rather spend my money on a good game than on Thief.