Deus Ex rip off anyway.
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I was kind-of anticipating that due to the delays and reports of massive bugs. However I do expect CDPR to fix all that very soon, I don't plan on playing this until well into 2021 anyways.
I do have to say though, considering those bugs, I simply cannot take seriously any source that gave this game a 10/10.
Eh. Every game has outlier reviews, and considering both Metacritic and Opencritic consensus are currently in the 90s, this seems to be one of those. Statistics and individual tastes.
Much more concerned about the bugs, though. Might have to hold off for a few patches before jumping in. Maybe even until after I get my RTX 3070 and Samsung 970 Pro SSD, even though I had a different game in mind to celebrate the upgrade...
From Carolyn Petite at Polygon (formerly Gamespot)
“For elements like the inescapable dehumanization of trans people on imagery throughout the city to function as any kind of critique of transphobia, the game itself would need to create tension around those images by showing us humanized trans people navigating that world. But it doesn’t. The result is a game in which transphobic players (of which there will be many) can just laugh at us by using the character creator to generate models they consider worthy of mockery and derision and by gagging at the Chromanticure ads they see everywhere, or perhaps by fetishizing the model while continuing to see trans people as objects of desire but not as full human beings. Meanwhile, we trans players are left wanting in its world for depictions that humanize us.”
Then go look at resetera. They currently aren’t allowing discussion of Cyberpunk 2077 unless it’s one of two threads discussing the games transphobic issues.
What the hell is going on?
I do have to say though, considering those bugs, I simply cannot take seriously any source that gave this game a 10/10.
Yea, agree with that.
Even a cursory glance at gameplay it didn't exactly impress. Especially coming off the likes of "Until You Fall" where it felt like a genuine step forward for melee.
Not take the review itself seriously. Basically a meme at this point where she has a spinno-lotto ball machine for "political reason I dislike this game".
Think the reviews proclaiming this second coming are most likely equally full of shit.
Still pick this up at some point, and no doubt have fun, but it was never a run-out-and-buy type deal.
Said it before and will say it again. Overhyped game from an overrated developer.
Only an incel would hate a game project like this.
@uninspiredcup: This. I still expect to have lots of fun with that game and am still looking forward to it but in no way am I expecting this to be the best thing ever.
@goldenelementxl: Some people simply thrive on bitching and moaning while others need a safe space.
Doesn't look like my type of game. The production values are insane though. With that said, there are many games that score low that I enjoyed significantly more than the 9-10s like The Witcher 3.
I hope the game lives up to the expectations of the folks who are looking forward to it. In the meantime, I will be playing Immortals Fenyx Rising. 😎
GS as always is fucking desperate for traffic.
Not really sure if i'm playing devil's advocate here, but game-breaking bugs and glitches undermine gameplay a lot. I mean, being repeatedly frustrated ain't no fun xD.
7 is a good score. I actually prefer that to a 9 or 10. Games that get 9s or 10s tend to be good, but they never excel in one area, and they take no risks. They're "sure things" and sure things are boring.
It's important to remember that Kallie Plagge reviewed this game, and she tends to view offensive content as a negative and scores the game to reflect that. No disrespect intended, of course; it's just important to know your reviewer in order to be a informed consumer.
The game was also a pre-release build without the large 40+GB patch, so the technical issues will soon be ironed out.
As I said in another post, I am not sure what the hurry was on this review.
Other big sites gave it a 9-10. I'm sure this game is great. Gamespot trying hard to be the Simon Cowell of game reviews
I actually think it's the opposite. I don't trust any review site that gives out a 10. Gotta be a really good reason.
...and the negative points in the GS review are probably valid points against the game.
I bet you we see a 'Director's Cut' of this game next year at some point. The way CDPR wanted the game to be before they committed to an unrealistic release date.
They should have just delayed it until next year. Seems more like everyone wants the game to be good, so the the reviews reflect that. Give it a few months and the honeymoon will be over - then we will see people's true opinions of the game.
This game will be amazing.... sometime around easter 🐣! I understand they needed those X-mas sales, whatever. I’m sure CDPR will work hard to get it right eventually. They did a lot of free fixes for TW3.
Doesn't look like my type of game. The production values are insane though. With that said, there are many games that score low that I enjoyed significantly more than the 9-10s like The Witcher 3.
I hope the game lives up to the expectations of the folks who are looking forward to it. In the meantime, I will be playing Immortals Fenyx Rising. 😎
You'll be playing the better game then. Great taste I must say.
Said it before and will say it again. Overhyped game from an overrated developer.
Only an incel would hate a game project like this.
Simp all you want. Flop is a Flop
going by GS review score? yea its a mega flop.
going by MC? 91 after 42 reviews, pretty much what people expected.
I suspect most people will take the aggregate score over the single score from a review essentially complaining its not woke enough.
I'll be waiting to play the game later this week to judge for myself
Said it before and will say it again. Overhyped game from an overrated developer.
Only an incel would hate a game project like this.
Simp all you want. Flop is a Flop
going by GS review score? yea its a mega flop.
going by MC? 91 after 42 reviews, pretty much what people expected.
I suspect most people will take the aggregate score over the single score from a review essentially complaining its not woke enough.
I'll be waiting to play the game later this week to judge for myself
Don't waste your time with his ilk, he's a sjw toting the flag for the alt left progressives. 'All hail TLou2 and down with CDPR' types.
From Carolyn Petite at Polygon (formerly Gamespot)
“For elements like the inescapable dehumanization of trans people on imagery throughout the city to function as any kind of critique of transphobia, the game itself would need to create tension around those images by showing us humanized trans people navigating that world. But it doesn’t. The result is a game in which transphobic players (of which there will be many) can just laugh at us by using the character creator to generate models they consider worthy of mockery and derision and by gagging at the Chromanticure ads they see everywhere, or perhaps by fetishizing the model while continuing to see trans people as objects of desire but not as full human beings. Meanwhile, we trans players are left wanting in its world for depictions that humanize us.”
Then go look at resetera. They currently aren’t allowing discussion of Cyberpunk 2077 unless it’s one of two threads discussing the games transphobic issues.
What the hell is going on?
People don't know how to ignore or tolerate what they don't like anymore.
One transphobic person "abuses the character creator" and suddenly it ruins it for the trans community because it's not a perfect system. Oh, the horror. So what? Who is this transphobic person and why do you care so much about them? **** 'em! Move on. Enjoy the game.
Which is the whole conundrum with SJW movements; they want an ideal, perfect world and frankly that is unobtainable. Not to mention boring and oppressive.
Sorry but you gotta take this world for what it is, warts and all. And that includes games.
Ironically, this game is about a future dystopia filled with all kinds of crime and terrible people, and frankly with all these extremists saying "Do this, not that" we are going in that direction. Every reaction has an opposite reaction (or however it goes) and every time someone says "you can't do that" someone else says "**** you, yes I can, and now I am going to do it in the most offensive way just to spite you". So maybe stop telling people what they can and can't do?
So, again I say....let it go. There are assholes in the world and there's nothing we can do about it. Except, of course, ignore them and live our lives.
Has a 91 on metacritic, so it looks like a pretty solid game. I was already planning on waiting for the PS5 version, so at least bugs will hopefully be squashed by then. Now I'm thinking about waiting for the GOTY edition 🤔
Said it before and will say it again. Overhyped game from an overrated developer.
Only an incel would hate a game project like this.
Simp all you want. Flop is a Flop
going by GS review score? yea its a mega flop.
going by MC? 91 after 42 reviews, pretty much what people expected.
I suspect most people will take the aggregate score over the single score from a review essentially complaining its not woke enough.
I'll be waiting to play the game later this week to judge for myself
Don't waste your time with his ilk, he's a sjw toting the flag for the alt left progressives. 'All hail TLou2 and down with CDPR' types.
ohhh, SJW bad..... They ruin the industry. .....LoUs2 is pandering. Still a better game though and not a 7.
From Carolyn Petite at Polygon (formerly Gamespot)
“For elements like the inescapable dehumanization of trans people on imagery throughout the city to function as any kind of critique of transphobia, the game itself would need to create tension around those images by showing us humanized trans people navigating that world. But it doesn’t. The result is a game in which transphobic players (of which there will be many) can just laugh at us by using the character creator to generate models they consider worthy of mockery and derision and by gagging at the Chromanticure ads they see everywhere, or perhaps by fetishizing the model while continuing to see trans people as objects of desire but not as full human beings. Meanwhile, we trans players are left wanting in its world for depictions that humanize us.”
Then go look at resetera. They currently aren’t allowing discussion of Cyberpunk 2077 unless it’s one of two threads discussing the games transphobic issues.
What the hell is going on?
People don't know how to ignore or tolerate what they don't like anymore.
One transphobic person "abuses the character creator" and suddenly it ruins it for the trans community because it's not a perfect system. Oh, the horror.
Which is the whole conundrum with SJW movements; they want an ideal, perfect world and frankly that is unobtainable. Not to mention boring and oppressive.
Sorry but you gotta take this world for what it is, warts and all. And that includes games.
Ironically, this game is about a future dystopia filled with all kinds of crime and terrible people, and frankly with all these extremists saying "Do this, not that" we are going in that direction. Every reaction has an opposite reaction (or however it goes) and every time someone says "you can't do that" someone else says "**** you, yes I can, and now I am going to do it in the most offensive way just to spite you". So maybe stop telling people what they can and can't do?
So, again I say....let it go. There are assholes in the world and there's nothing we can do about it.
Its never a good idea to base the views of entire groups based on a select few. Just saying. 😊
Only an incel would hate a game project like this.
Simp all you want. Flop is a Flop
going by GS review score? yea its a mega flop.
going by MC? 91 after 42 reviews, pretty much what people expected.
I suspect most people will take the aggregate score over the single score from a review essentially complaining its not woke enough.
I'll be waiting to play the game later this week to judge for myself
Don't waste your time with his ilk, he's a sjw toting the flag for the alt left progressives. 'All hail TLou2 and down with CDPR' types.
ohhh, SJW bad..... They ruin the industry. .....LoUs2 is pandering. Still a better game though and not a 7.
Goodness, you're more edgy than CP77.
Don't waste your time with his ilk, he's a sjw toting the flag for the alt left progressives. 'All hail TLou2 and down with CDPR' types.
ohhh, SJW bad..... They ruin the industry. .....LoUs2 is pandering. Still a better game though and not a 7.
'orange man bad' 'cdpr bad' .
Don't waste your time with his ilk, he's a sjw toting the flag for the alt left progressives. 'All hail TLou2 and down with CDPR' types.
ohhh, SJW bad..... They ruin the industry. .....LoUs2 is pandering. Still a better game though and not a 7.
'orange man bad' 'cdpr bad' .
Ask for a recount. The review is rigged. Make CPDR great again
Don't waste your time with his ilk, he's a sjw toting the flag for the alt left progressives. 'All hail TLou2 and down with CDPR' types.
ohhh, SJW bad..... They ruin the industry. .....LoUs2 is pandering. Still a better game though and not a 7.
'orange man bad' 'cdpr bad' .
Ask for a recount. The review is rigged. Make CPDR great again
I'm a Biden man, and don't wear my political sundries to video game parties. Keep fighting the good fight.
Every review I’ve read so far mentions this,
“There's one ad in particular that was the topic of much discussion pre-release; it features a feminine person with a giant, exaggerated, veiny erection in their leotard and advertises a drink called Chromanticore with the tagline "mix it up."
What does pre-release outrage have to do with critically reviewing the game?
And then Kallie, much like Carolyn, goes into full rage-bait mode.
“The result is that there's a fetishization of trans people at every turn, in a game with only one very minor trans character (that I found, at least) and no way to play as an authentically trans character yourself.”
Looking at the “The Bad” breakdown at then end is just as frustrating. They want this game to be something socially, and are knocking it for not being that... This is another example of “games are art” vs “make the game that represents me in the way I want or I’m gonna publicly trash it” that we’ve seen from games journalist as of late. They need to pick one.
@briguyb13:
Don't waste your time with his ilk, he's a sjw toting the flag for the alt left progressives. 'All hail TLou2 and down with CDPR' types.
ohhh, SJW bad..... They ruin the industry. .....LoUs2 is pandering. Still a better game though and not a 7.
'orange man bad' 'cdpr bad' .
Ask for a recount. The review is rigged. Make CPDR great again
I'm a Biden man, and don't wear my political sundries to video game parties. Keep fighting the good fight.
and yet you bring up sjw's and alt left. Nice try
@briguyb13:
Ask for a recount. The review is rigged. Make CPDR great again
I'm a Biden man, and don't wear my political sundries to video game parties. Keep fighting the good fight.
and yet you bring up sjw's and alt left. Nice try
You fail because you think anyone who disagrees with your woke philosophy 'has to be alt right'. Moderate democrats (like Biden) and centrists (most of Americans) disagree with your extremist views. Your kind is a loud minority of armchair liars, nothing more. Go cry moar on twitter.
Gamespot Karen is offended and gives a 7/10. Look at her articles lol. She should stick to Pokémon, Mario cart, animal crossing.
Can’t wait for her fifa and madden review🙄
Gamespot Days Gone review By KalliePlagge😂🤣😂🤣Plaggehttps://www.gamespot.com/reviews/days-gone-review-farewell-oregon/1900-6417130/
Articles by Kallie:
https://www.gamespot.com/profile/kallie/content/
@briguyb13:
Ask for a recount. The review is rigged. Make CPDR great again
I'm a Biden man, and don't wear my political sundries to video game parties. Keep fighting the good fight.
and yet you bring up sjw's and alt left. Nice try
You fail because you think anyone who disagrees with your woke philosophy 'has to be alt right'. Moderate democrats (like Biden) and centrists (most of Americans) disagree with your extremist views. Your kind is a loud minority of armchair liars, nothing more. Go cry moar on twitter.
What extremist view are you talking about? Explain your useless views elsewhere. No one needs to read what you have to say. Cyberflop still a 7 though
Uh... Flop of the generation?
it currently having 90mc and considering shit like Anthem etc, are you serious?
lel are you saying Anthem had bigger hype going for it than this game?
That said, I will be picking it up on PC anyways.
Don't waste your time with his ilk, he's a sjw toting the flag for the alt left progressives. 'All hail TLou2 and down with CDPR' types.
ohhh, SJW bad..... They ruin the industry. .....LoUs2 is pandering. Still a better game though and not a 7.
'orange man bad' 'cdpr bad' .
Ask for a recount. The review is rigged. Make CPDR great again
I'm a Biden man, and don't wear my political sundries to video game parties. Keep fighting the good fight.
lads, please take this garbage to the political forums
Karen at gamespot is offended and gives a 7/10. Look at her articles lol. She should stick to Pokémon, Mario cart, animal crossing.
This is actually a good thing. This game is going to get more publicity now.
Let the butthurt flow.
I was ready to hate on the review ... but i couldn't. My only true gripe is that it doesn't sound like a 7, it definitely sounds like an 8 in the written review, but i can see where Kallie is going.
This is one of the biggest Open World games issues, you have either meaningless side quests, or disappointing main story, Cyberpunk for all the great things it seems to offer, main quest seems a bit lackluster, which i don't think is bad since the game it's going to be huge.
The SJW was bad, but is to be expected in this day and age, but luckly doesn't get that much in the way of the review, at least not as much as i thought.
Anyway, sad to see it flop on GS, but i'm still pretty excited for the game.
ohhh, SJW bad..... They ruin the industry. .....LoUs2 is pandering. Still a better game though and not a 7.
'orange man bad' 'cdpr bad' .
Ask for a recount. The review is rigged. Make CPDR great again
I'm a Biden man, and don't wear my political sundries to video game parties. Keep fighting the good fight.
lads, please take this garbage to the political forums
Don't look at me. Biden boomer started calling me sjw and extremist left.
Don't look at me. Biden boomer started calling me sjw and extremist left.
I knew it, you're a jcrame alt. lol
Annnnnnd I just read the Kotaku review. That was something else... Its written by Riley MacLeod, and sober, trans man (that’s how they identify in the article). They describe their issue with playing as a trans man (male appearance with female organs) acting out penetration during the sex scenes,
“ My V has a vagina and goes by “he,” but the game doesn’t seem to acknowledge that he’s a trans man; characters occasionally make reference to his (censored) or (censored), though this could just as easily be metaphorical. In some scenes with hireable sex workers of different genders, I appeared to penetrate them—certainly possible, but with no indication that my character doesn’t have a biological (censored). At one point a character made mention of the “mess” that is my V’s hormones, but I’m not sure if this is a reference to his body or something that would be said anyway.”
And then stuff like this,
“I could easily see the trans character’s appearance and voice being played for laughs. Of course, there was no option to rush up to the trans woman and say “I’m trans, too!” Both characters fell silent and didn’t have any more dialogue.”
“Personally, the trans content I’ve seen so far didn’t deeply offend me, but that’s my own stomach for such things. But I’m not necessarily interested in knowing what a game studio thinks about my existence; I don’t need Cyberpunk—or any game—to tell me about myself. Still, I don’t think I’m alone in wishing the game were doing better with the identities it portrays, and I understand anyone who feels like they just don’t have the energy for this shit”
I know I don’t have the energy for this shit. I need to take a break...
I don’t have the energy for this shit. I need to take a break...
Pretty good summery of gaming now.
@uninspiredcup: The range of takes from these reviews is dizzying. We go from there’s a ton of bugs and the mainline story is kinda short from some publications, to my trans male character is doing the wrong stuff with the sex workers.
Like everything else in this world, what was once an escape from the real world has been weaponized and politicized. (I thought the anthem shit with the NFL was bad...) Inclusion should be celebrated in gaming. But we’ve gone from one extreme to the other in such a short period of time, and the coverage of the hobby is off the rails. It’s pure madness at this point.
7 is a good score. I actually prefer that to a 9 or 10. Games that get 9s or 10s tend to be good, but they never excel in one area, and they take no risks. They're "sure things" and sure things are boring.
It's important to remember that Kallie Plagge reviewed this game, and she tends to view offensive content as a negative and scores the game to reflect that. No disrespect intended, of course; it's just important to know your reviewer in order to be a informed consumer.
The game was also a pre-release build without the large 40+GB patch, so the technical issues will soon be ironed out.
As I said in another post, I am not sure what the hurry was on this review.
This is probably the best comment I seen so far. Kallie is entitle to her opinion on reviewing CP2077 and I respect her opinion but won't say anything bad, I know what I'm getting myself into and I don't need a reviewer telling me otherwise. Reviews are always going be an opinion on the game. Nothing more/less. A 7/10 is still a good score, I'm still looking forward playing it ASAP!!! (Still keeping my expectations in check)
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