Why are liberals so emotional and irrational?

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#101 Posted by -Sun_Tzu- (17384 posts) -
[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

On the subject of emotion and irrationality:

"THIS IS **** I GOT **** BANNED FOR POSTING AN UNPOPULAR OPINION IN THE THREAD FOR **** UNPOPULAR OPINIONS YOUR **** BOARD IS A **** LIE YOU ALL **** IN YOUR MOUTHS AND ACT LIKE YOUR **** GENIUSES FOR **** DOING IT AND YOU TALK **** ABOUT MY MOM WHEN YOU **** BAN ME LIKE SOME **** **** ASS **** BECAUSE YOURE TOO MUCH A **** **** TO TALK **** TO MY FACE"

nocoolnamejim
Who posted that?

Lai
#102 Posted by DaBrainz (7628 posts) -
This forum needs libertarians that are more sagacious and cohesive than TC.
#103 Posted by nocoolnamejim (15136 posts) -
[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

On the subject of emotion and irrationality:

"THIS IS **** I GOT **** BANNED FOR POSTING AN UNPOPULAR OPINION IN THE THREAD FOR **** UNPOPULAR OPINIONS YOUR **** BOARD IS A **** LIE YOU ALL **** IN YOUR MOUTHS AND ACT LIKE YOUR **** GENIUSES FOR **** DOING IT AND YOU TALK **** ABOUT MY MOM WHEN YOU **** BAN ME LIKE SOME **** **** ASS **** BECAUSE YOURE TOO MUCH A **** **** TO TALK **** TO MY FACE"

-Sun_Tzu-
Who posted that?

Lai

It seems a little emotional.
#104 Posted by dave123321 (33774 posts) -
Please lay off of lai
#105 Posted by Sajo7 (14049 posts) -
Is it a nice day where you are TC? It might be nice to take a stroll.
#106 Posted by DroidPhysX (17089 posts) -
[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"] Who posted that? nocoolnamejim
Lai

It seems a little emotional.

There's actually more where that came from. Unless he just did a copy paste job for the others.
#107 Posted by Diablo-B (4024 posts) -
Conservatives are exactly the same. Emotion is often used as a substitute for evidence to support a person's position. And there is a difference between someone being irrational and someone disagreeing with you. If all the people you run into truly are unable of having a rational discussion then you need to start hanging out around a higher caliber of people.
#108 Posted by LJS9502_basic (150326 posts) -

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]How is someone taking responsibility for his own expenses making anything worse? What underlying issues are solved by socialized healthcare as opposed to people simply taking responsibility for their own healthcare?Laihendi

The governmental goal of providing affordable and quality healthcare to all it's citizens, not just the ones able to pay?

Question - do you also support the removal of EMTALA?

I am against hospitals being forced to provide care for anyone. Each hospital should establish its own rules for who they will or will not care for. People using hospital services without paying for them is just making healthcare more expensive for everyone else.

And not being able to pay for your expenses is not a justification for stealing from someone else.

So yes.

Wow....just when I thought you couldn't get any more selfish...
#109 Posted by Aljosa23 (24745 posts) -

I'd say conservatives use emotion way more. Have you watched FOX News and listened to Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity? All of them use fear tactics to get people to believe them.

#110 Posted by Teenaged (31743 posts) -

I bet Elijah Wood is a liberal.

#111 Posted by Abbeten (2803 posts) -

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

On the subject of emotion and irrationality:

"THIS IS **** I GOT **** BANNED FOR POSTING AN UNPOPULAR OPINION IN THE THREAD FOR **** UNPOPULAR OPINIONS YOUR **** BOARD IS A **** LIE YOU ALL **** IN YOUR MOUTHS AND ACT LIKE YOUR **** GENIUSES FOR **** DOING IT AND YOU TALK **** ABOUT MY MOM WHEN YOU **** BAN ME LIKE SOME **** **** ASS **** BECAUSE YOURE TOO MUCH A **** **** TO TALK **** TO MY FACE"

-Sun_Tzu-

Who posted that?

Lai

what the ****

#112 Posted by nocoolnamejim (15136 posts) -

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"] Who posted that? Abbeten

Lai

what the ****

As much as he complains about "teh liberal bias" of mods protecting him from himself by closing the most egregious of his threads, it turns out he doesn't do as well without the benign and watchful eyes of those biased individuals laying our protective hands over him at times to shield him from the inevitable results of being himself. I think it was just after he explicitly compared TDH to North Korea that things started turning particularly nasty.
#113 Posted by osirisx3 (1756 posts) -

Well i'm a communist and i find it amazing how in some ways we agree with Libertarian but end up having a complete opposite idea on how to fix things. We both agree that the government is a armed gang of thugs. Communists want to remove the state while libertarian want to privatize everything.We communists know that privatization Leeds to plutocracy where the rich control everything and the people are at the mercy of the ruling class which never ends well. it also leads to everything being bought by the rich making the worker fight for the grums.

#114 Posted by wis3boi (31114 posts) -

[QUOTE="Abbeten"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Lai nocoolnamejim

what the ****

As much as he complains about "teh liberal bias" of mods protecting him from himself by closing the most egregious of his threads, it turns out he doesn't do as well without the benign and watchful eyes of those biased individuals laying our protective hands over him at times to shield him from the inevitable results of being himself. I think it was just after he explicitly compared TDH to North Korea that things started turning particularly nasty.

that escalated quickly

#115 Posted by Necrifer (10629 posts) -

It's a mental illness.

#116 Posted by jimkabrhel (15417 posts) -

How old is the TC?

#117 Posted by shadowkiller11 (7954 posts) -
Don't shoot me.
#118 Posted by wis3boi (31114 posts) -

How old is the TC?

jimkabrhel

Scfourteen-teen

#119 Posted by PannicAtack (21020 posts) -
[QUOTE="Abbeten"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Lai nocoolnamejim

what the ****

As much as he complains about "teh liberal bias" of mods protecting him from himself by closing the most egregious of his threads, it turns out he doesn't do as well without the benign and watchful eyes of those biased individuals laying our protective hands over him at times to shield him from the inevitable results of being himself. I think it was just after he explicitly compared TDH to North Korea that things started turning particularly nasty.

Someone needs to keep, like, a chronicle of all this stuff.
#120 Posted by Laihendi (5810 posts) -
[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

Guys

Guys

Did you see what happened today?

The boy scouts are lifting their ban on gay members.

You see? The free market works. Albeit taking 12 years. But yes. It took the free market 12 years to fix something.

Now think of how long that dead body will lie rotting on the street before the free market does something.

DroidPhysX
If you have a problem with Boy Scouts then find a different organization to join or make your own. The Boy Scouts weren't harming anyone but themselves by not letting homosexuals join.

That's irrelevant to how the free market took twelve years to fix something that could have been settled in 2001.

There was nothing to fix. They didn't want homosexuals in their organization and there isn't anything wrong with that. Who they let in is their choice to make.
#121 Posted by Laihendi (5810 posts) -

I'd say conservatives use emotion way more. Have you watched FOX News and listened to Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity? All of them use fear tactics to get people to believe them.

Aljosa23

Have you heard FDR, JFK, or Obama speak? Their speeches are always just emotional fluff. There is never anything substantial or thought provoking about them. You can point out at some guy with a microphone and a camera saying stupid stuff, but these are presidents who are renowned for their oratory skills.

@Teenaged Elijah has never publicly endorsed a politician/candidate so there is no way of knowing his political orientation.

#122 Posted by jimkabrhel (15417 posts) -

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

I'd say conservatives use emotion way more. Have you watched FOX News and listened to Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity? All of them use fear tactics to get people to believe them.

Laihendi

Have you heard FDR, JFK, or Obama speak? Their speeches are always just emotional fluff. There is never anything substantial or thought provoking about them. You can point out at some guy with a microphone and a camera saying stupid stuff, but these are presidents who are renowned for their oratory skills.

@Teenaged Elijah has never publicly endorsed a politician/candidate so there is no way of knowing his political orientation.

You picked three popular Democratic Presidents and derided them, two of which are considered among the top Presidents. I'm not surprised. You may consider yourself a libertarian, but you are just an anti-liberal, just like most ignorant right-wingers.

#123 Posted by DroidPhysX (17089 posts) -
[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="Laihendi"] If you have a problem with Boy Scouts then find a different organization to join or make your own. The Boy Scouts weren't harming anyone but themselves by not letting homosexuals join.Laihendi
That's irrelevant to how the free market took twelve years to fix something that could have been settled in 2001.

There was nothing to fix. They didn't want homosexuals in their organization and there isn't anything wrong with that. Who they let in is their choice to make.

Oh right. I forgot that libertarians support the right to discriminate.
#124 Posted by Laihendi (5810 posts) -

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

I'd say conservatives use emotion way more. Have you watched FOX News and listened to Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity? All of them use fear tactics to get people to believe them.

jimkabrhel

Have you heard FDR, JFK, or Obama speak? Their speeches are always just emotional fluff. There is never anything substantial or thought provoking about them. You can point out at some guy with a microphone and a camera saying stupid stuff, but these are presidents who are renowned for their oratory skills.

@Teenaged Elijah has never publicly endorsed a politician/candidate so there is no way of knowing his political orientation.

You picked three popular Democratic Presidents and derided them, two of which are considered among the top Presidents. I'm not surprised. You may consider yourself a libertarian, but you are just an anti-liberal, just like most ignorant right-wingers.

The fact that those people are revered by liberals just proves what I'm saying. And they're only considered top presidents by other liberal statists like them.
#125 Posted by Laihendi (5810 posts) -
[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] That's irrelevant to how the free market took twelve years to fix something that could have been settled in 2001.DroidPhysX
There was nothing to fix. They didn't want homosexuals in their organization and there isn't anything wrong with that. Who they let in is their choice to make.

Oh right. I forgot that libertarians support the right to discriminate.

I support the right to do whatever they want with their private affairs as long as they aren't coercing anyone into doing things they don't want to do. The Boy Scouts weren't hurting anyone by not letting homosexuals in.
#126 Posted by DroidPhysX (17089 posts) -

>obama

>liberal

ROFL

#127 Posted by -Sun_Tzu- (17384 posts) -
#128 Posted by -Sun_Tzu- (17384 posts) -
[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="Laihendi"] There was nothing to fix. They didn't want homosexuals in their organization and there isn't anything wrong with that. Who they let in is their choice to make.Laihendi
Oh right. I forgot that libertarians support the right to discriminate.

I support the right to do whatever they want with their private affairs as long as they aren't coercing anyone into doing things they don't want to do. The Boy Scouts weren't hurting anyone by not letting homosexuals in.

But what if they sh!ttalk their moms?
#129 Posted by Yusuke420 (2793 posts) -

I wonder if the TC shares the view other libertarians hold, like how multiculturalism is a product of liberals and how we should all be in homogenized groups.

#130 Posted by DroidPhysX (17089 posts) -
[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="Laihendi"] There was nothing to fix. They didn't want homosexuals in their organization and there isn't anything wrong with that. Who they let in is their choice to make.Laihendi
Oh right. I forgot that libertarians support the right to discriminate.

I support the right to do whatever they want with their private affairs as long as they aren't coercing anyone into doing things they don't want to do. The Boy Scouts weren't hurting anyone by not letting homosexuals in.

So that's a yes?
#131 Posted by Aljosa23 (24745 posts) -

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

I'd say conservatives use emotion way more. Have you watched FOX News and listened to Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity? All of them use fear tactics to get people to believe them.

Laihendi

Have you heard FDR, JFK, or Obama speak? Their speeches are always just emotional fluff. There is never anything substantial or thought provoking about them. You can point out at some guy with a microphone and a camera saying stupid stuff, but these are presidents who are renowned for their oratory skills.

*yawn* you mention three presidents, two whom Historians consider in the top 5-10 and the other that's not even Liberal. Somehow that proves all liberals are emotional and irrational. Please go away

#132 Posted by Laihendi (5810 posts) -
[QUOTE="Laihendi"]

@Teenaged Elijah has never publicly endorsed a politician/candidate so there is no way of knowing his political orientation.

-Sun_Tzu-
There's always a way in this day and age

I have seen interviews where Elijah spoke about the Occupy movement and basically he just thinks it's good that people express their opinions. That doesn't necessarily mean he agrees with them, especially considering that he is one of the 1% himself.
#133 Posted by BossPerson (9434 posts) -

I bet Elijah Wood is a liberal.

Teenaged
http://www.thenation.com/blog/167253/occupy-wall-street-activists-respond-99-percent-spring#
#134 Posted by BossPerson (9434 posts) -

he's a dirty leftist collectivist liberal

#135 Posted by Laihendi (5810 posts) -

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

I'd say conservatives use emotion way more. Have you watched FOX News and listened to Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity? All of them use fear tactics to get people to believe them.

Aljosa23

Have you heard FDR, JFK, or Obama speak? Their speeches are always just emotional fluff. There is never anything substantial or thought provoking about them. You can point out at some guy with a microphone and a camera saying stupid stuff, but these are presidents who are renowned for their oratory skills.

*yawn* you mention three presidents, two whom Historians consider in the top 5-10 and the other that's not even Liberal. Somehow that proves all liberals are emotional and irrational. Please go away

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

Please tell me what FDR and JFK did that makes them among the best presidents. Both of their presidencies were disasters.

#136 Posted by BossPerson (9434 posts) -

and lets not even get into how much tolkien hated individualism and industry

#137 Posted by MrPraline (21308 posts) -
I like Lai And I know he's using a wrong American definition of liberal instead of classical liberalism so I'm not offended : >
#138 Posted by PannicAtack (21020 posts) -

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"] Have you heard FDR, JFK, or Obama speak? Their speeches are always just emotional fluff. There is never anything substantial or thought provoking about them. You can point out at some guy with a microphone and a camera saying stupid stuff, but these are presidents who are renowned for their oratory skills.

Laihendi

*yawn* you mention three presidents, two whom Historians consider in the top 5-10 and the other that's not even Liberal. Somehow that proves all liberals are emotional and irrational. Please go away

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

Please tell me what FDR and JFK did that makes them among the best presidents. Both of their presidencies were disasters.

Well, when FDR took office the country was in a depression, and by the time he died... no more depression. Sounds kinda good to me.
#139 Posted by Laihendi (5810 posts) -
[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] Oh right. I forgot that libertarians support the right to discriminate. DroidPhysX
I support the right to do whatever they want with their private affairs as long as they aren't coercing anyone into doing things they don't want to do. The Boy Scouts weren't hurting anyone by not letting homosexuals in.

So that's a yes?

Yes people have a right to discriminate. People have a right to think, form values, and make decisions for themselves.
#140 Posted by -Sun_Tzu- (17384 posts) -
[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Laihendi"]

@Teenaged Elijah has never publicly endorsed a politician/candidate so there is no way of knowing his political orientation.

Laihendi
There's always a way in this day and age

I have seen interviews where Elijah spoke about the Occupy movement and basically he just thinks it's good that people express their opinions. That doesn't necessarily mean he agrees with them, especially considering that he is one of the 1% himself.

This is more than him saying it's good that people express their opinions - this is him putting his name on a plan to help organize the occupy movement so they can be more effective in carrying out their political goals. And what does him being part of the 1% have to do with anything?
#141 Posted by Aljosa23 (24745 posts) -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

Please tell me what FDR and JFK did that makes them among the best presidents. Both of their presidencies were disasters.

Laihendi

What I said wasn't fallacious. Historians are the authority in the field of HISTORY, hence it's valid. Of course you go off on another tangent.

It's not my job to teach you basic history but since you claimed they were disasters, please prove it you revisionist mouth breathing sociopath.

#142 Posted by BossPerson (9434 posts) -

Lai, do you know why Morgoth is so evil?

#143 Posted by Laihendi (5810 posts) -
[QUOTE="Laihendi"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]*yawn* you mention three presidents, two whom Historians consider in the top 5-10 and the other that's not even Liberal. Somehow that proves all liberals are emotional and irrational. Please go away

PannicAtack

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

Please tell me what FDR and JFK did that makes them among the best presidents. Both of their presidencies were disasters.

Well, when FDR took office the country was in a depression, and by the time he died... no more depression. Sounds kinda good to me.

The depression just got worse for years until world war 2 started, and then once it ended there was another recession in 1945.
#144 Posted by Laihendi (5810 posts) -

Lai, do you know why Morgoth is so evil?

BossPerson
Because he doesn't respect the individual rights of others.
#145 Posted by Ace6301 (21389 posts) -
. And what does him being part of the 1% have to do with anything? -Sun_Tzu-
Making over a set amount of money immediately makes you a conservative, duh.
#146 Posted by BossPerson (9434 posts) -
[QUOTE="BossPerson"]

Lai, do you know why Morgoth is so evil?

Laihendi
Because he doesn't respect the individual rights of others.

ohhhhhhhhhhh lol man fcking lol its because he doesnt respect the will of Eru. He goes his own way, searching for power on his own, creating his own music creating his own race.
#147 Posted by Yusuke420 (2793 posts) -

I'd say JFK advocating for and FDR putting into law various civil rights acts more then qualifies them both for being great presidents. They may not have loved black americans, but their policy changed the disgusting segregation that was denying them the opprotunity to be successful citizens.

#148 Posted by Ace6301 (21389 posts) -
[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="Laihendi"]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

Please tell me what FDR and JFK did that makes them among the best presidents. Both of their presidencies were disasters.

Laihendi
Well, when FDR took office the country was in a depression, and by the time he died... no more depression. Sounds kinda good to me.

The depression just got worse for years until world war 2 started, and then once it ended there was another recession in 1945.

Except that's wrong. The economy was recovering after around 1932.
#149 Posted by Laihendi (5810 posts) -

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

Please tell me what FDR and JFK did that makes them among the best presidents. Both of their presidencies were disasters.

Aljosa23

What I said wasn't fallacious. Historians are the authority in the field of HISTORY, hence it's valid. Of course you go off on another tangent.

It's not my job to teach you basic history but since you claimed they were disasters, please prove it you revisionist mouth breathing sociopath.

Right, citing a vague nonspecific group of people as holding a consensus proves that FDR and JFK were among the best presidents. The fact that you can't even explain what was good about them proves that you don't know what you're talking about. This is just like when you say that the constitution shouldn't be followed because the people who wrote it owned slaves, and then claim you aren't making an ad hominem attack.
#150 Posted by DroidPhysX (17089 posts) -
[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="Laihendi"] I support the right to do whatever they want with their private affairs as long as they aren't coercing anyone into doing things they don't want to do. The Boy Scouts weren't hurting anyone by not letting homosexuals in.Laihendi
So that's a yes?

Yes people have a right to discriminate. People have a right to think, form values, and make decisions for themselves.

That's not what I asked. Please reread the posts and avoid fallacious arguments.