Why are liberals so emotional and irrational?

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#1 Posted by Laihendi (5800 posts) -

I have been wondering this for a long time and it still does not make sense to me. Everytime I try to talk to a liberal about issues such as welfare, restrictive sex laws, restrictive gun laws, a politician he likes, etc. they always seem to get very emotional and agitated and it becomes impossible to have a calm, objective, and rational discussion.

For example I have had people say things like I don't care about children just because I am against pre-k in state schools since it is basically a babysitting service funded by tax dollars. Or when I wasn't happy about Obama being elected back in 2008 a bunch of people I knew said I was racist, including some family members even though I don't care about Obama's race at all. They all acted like we should be proud to have a black man elected president while completely ignoring the fact that he was the most unqualified president ever elected and his policies are just more statism like Bush.

These same people criticize conservatives for being "a bunch of old white guys" as if there is anything wrong with being old or white.

And then when you have someone like Ron Paul arguing against medicair and medicaid and saying you shoud just be responsible for your own medical expenses instead of having the government take your money and spend it for you, he gets accused of hating poor and old people. The things they say and believe are just very irrational.

#2 Posted by one_plum (6333 posts) -

Have you looked at yourself(elves) in the mirror?

It's a rhetorical question; don't answer.

#3 Posted by XaosII (16537 posts) -

Why do you like generalizing?

#4 Posted by thegerg (14724 posts) -
For the same reason that anyone else is.
#5 Posted by Foxi911 (1673 posts) -
Since we are generalizing, why are conservative so uptight and close minded?
#6 Posted by chessmaster1989 (29087 posts) -
lol at Laihendi calling other people irrational
#7 Posted by BossPerson (9432 posts) -

try watching fox and we'll see who is more emotional and irrational

#8 Posted by Yusuke420 (2793 posts) -

Since we are generalizing, why are conservative so uptight and close minded? Foxi911
I'll add to this by saying, how can people afford to pay huge medical bills when they are the ones in the hospital :(

#9 Posted by 22Toothpicks (11279 posts) -
not sure if this is trollbait or not but either way, 2 things: 1. are you capable of a rational discussion? your posting history says otherwise 2. let's not pretend that conservatives are fountains of understanding; both groups are capabe of being irrational
#10 Posted by jimkabrhel (15417 posts) -
Why are conservatives so emotional and irrational? Fixed it for you. I'm actually exaggerating, like you are. If you are basing the world on OT, you should get out more.
#11 Posted by wis3boi (31039 posts) -

This is your brain on Fox News

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#12 Posted by GreySeal9 (24019 posts) -

lol at Laihendi calling other people irrationalchessmaster1989

#13 Posted by dave123321 (33672 posts) -
Good thread, lai
#14 Posted by CongressManStan (918 posts) -
You're generalizing people right now. I don't understand how you can honestly believe that all liberal people are the same. Liberals are not all the same just like how conservatives are not all the same. It's naive of you to think that.
#15 Posted by DJ-Lafleur (34130 posts) -

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]lol at Laihendi calling other people irrationalGreySeal9

#16 Posted by Abbeten (2803 posts) -

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]lol at Laihendi calling other people irrationalDJ-Lafleur

#17 Posted by yellosnolvr (19302 posts) -
why are you overgeneralizing and exaggerating?
#18 Posted by Kickinurass (3357 posts) -

And then when you have someone like Ron Paul arguing against medicair and medicaid and saying you shoud just be responsible for your own medical expenses instead of having the government take your money and spend it for you, he gets accused of hating poor and old people. The things they say and believe are just very irrational.

Laihendi

Because that would be equivalent to having your house catch fire, and then dumping gasoline on it to try to put it out. It's a stupid, naive, and idiotic "solution" that would quicly erode healthcare in for the vast majority of people. Maybe he doesn't hate old/poor people, but he's either willing to let them suffer or he's just spouting off "personal liberty" talking points without actually thinking them through. Probably both.

#19 Posted by VanHelsingBoA64 (5455 posts) -
[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Abbeten

#20 Posted by dave123321 (33672 posts) -
Don't forget about that essay
#21 Posted by 22Toothpicks (11279 posts) -
so is TC just going to make this thread and then scamper off? where's the fun in that...
#22 Posted by Laihendi (5800 posts) -

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]

And then when you have someone like Ron Paul arguing against medicair and medicaid and saying you shoud just be responsible for your own medical expenses instead of having the government take your money and spend it for you, he gets accused of hating poor and old people. The things they say and believe are just very irrational.

Kickinurass

Because that would be equivalent to having your house catch fire, and then dumping gasoline on it to try to put it out. It's a stupid, naive, and idiotic "solution" that would quicly erode healthcare in for the vast majority of people. Maybe he doesn't hate old/poor people, but he's either willing to let them suffer or he's just spouting off "personal liberty" talking points without actually thinking them through. Probably both.

Someone taking responsibility for his own life and expenses rather than having the government steal money from people to buy stuff for others is in no way the equivalent of having your house catch on fire and dumping gasoline on it to try to put it out. That is one of the worst analogies I have ever seen.
#23 Posted by Laihendi (5800 posts) -
Why are conservatives so emotional and irrational? Fixed it for you. I'm actually exaggerating, like you are. If you are basing the world on OT, you should get out more. jimkabrhel
Some conservatives may be irrational too but liberals tend to be much more politically active, so they are very motivated to incorporate their values into society despite not having any rational basis for them. @Dave I am not going to forget
#24 Posted by 22Toothpicks (11279 posts) -
[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]

And then when you have someone like Ron Paul arguing against medicair and medicaid and saying you shoud just be responsible for your own medical expenses instead of having the government take your money and spend it for you, he gets accused of hating poor and old people. The things they say and believe are just very irrational.

Laihendi

Because that would be equivalent to having your house catch fire, and then dumping gasoline on it to try to put it out. It's a stupid, naive, and idiotic "solution" that would quicly erode healthcare in for the vast majority of people. Maybe he doesn't hate old/poor people, but he's either willing to let them suffer or he's just spouting off "personal liberty" talking points without actually thinking them through. Probably both.

Someone taking responsibility for his own life and expenses rather than having the government steal money from people to buy stuff for others is in no way the equivalent of having your house catch on fire and dumping gasoline on it to try to put it out. That is one of the worst analogies I have ever seen.

are you implying that taxes are a form of theft?
#25 Posted by TacticalDesire (10713 posts) -

You know who's irrational? Elijah Wood. I mean is the guy a hobbit, a dog, or a person? It doesn't make any sense he needs to pick a side.

#26 Posted by Laihendi (5800 posts) -
[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

Because that would be equivalent to having your house catch fire, and then dumping gasoline on it to try to put it out. It's a stupid, naive, and idiotic "solution" that would quicly erode healthcare in for the vast majority of people. Maybe he doesn't hate old/poor people, but he's either willing to let them suffer or he's just spouting off "personal liberty" talking points without actually thinking them through. Probably both.

22Toothpicks
Someone taking responsibility for his own life and expenses rather than having the government steal money from people to buy stuff for others is in no way the equivalent of having your house catch on fire and dumping gasoline on it to try to put it out. That is one of the worst analogies I have ever seen.

are you implying that taxes are a form of theft?

I am not implying, I am explicitly stating. Taking money from someone by force without his consent is theft.
#27 Posted by 22Toothpicks (11279 posts) -

You know who's irrational? Elijah Wood. I mean is the guy a hobbit, a dog, or a person? It doesn't make any sense he needs to pick a side.

TacticalDesire
lol i'm wathing the LoTR the two towers right now MAKE UP YOUR MIND DICKHEAD
#28 Posted by Kickinurass (3357 posts) -

Someone taking responsibility for his own life and expenses rather than having the government steal money from people to buy stuff for others is in no way the equivalent of having your house catch on fire and dumping gasoline on it to try to put it out. That is one of the worst analogies I have ever seen.Laihendi

The issue is that you're only makes the problem worse. It in no way solves the underlying issues (besides being completely unreasonable at this point). Hence the analogy. Honestly, if that was Ron Paul's actual suggestion, that probably the greatest amount of idiocy I've seen expressed on the issue. I'd wager an hour of research could have avoided that.

#30 Posted by LJS9502_basic (150088 posts) -
You really need to stop generalizing....
#31 Posted by NEWMAHAY (3760 posts) -

Have you looked at yourself(elves) in the mirror?

It's a rhetorical question; don't answer.

one_plum
#32 Posted by NEWMAHAY (3760 posts) -
lol at Laihendi calling other people irrationalchessmaster1989
#33 Posted by Serraph105 (27760 posts) -

funny, I always wonder why conservatives are so irrational when I bring up the fact that we can lower abortion rates by increasing access to birth control.

#34 Posted by GreekGameManiac (6439 posts) -

Since we are generalizing, why are conservative so uptight and close minded? Foxi911

OHOHOHO,a direct hit!

My thoughts exactly!

Take your stupid,closeminded laws,and brainwashing outta here!

#35 Posted by 22Toothpicks (11279 posts) -

[QUOTE="Foxi911"]Since we are generalizing, why are conservative so uptight and close minded? GreekGameManiac

OHOHOHO,a direct hit!

My thoughts exactly!

Take your stupid,closeminded laws,and brainwashing outta here!

liberals are brainwashers too
#36 Posted by PannicAtack (20986 posts) -
Ooh, another funny thread.
#37 Posted by GreekGameManiac (6439 posts) -

liberals are brainwashers too22Toothpicks

*bursts into laughter*

#38 Posted by sonicare (53448 posts) -

Honestly, that's both sides. Some people tend to get very passionate about certain issues. You can forget about having any rational discussion. They've shut down their cognitive skills long ago and just dont hear anything that is contrary to their point of view.

#39 Posted by 22Toothpicks (11279 posts) -

[QUOTE="22Toothpicks"] liberals are brainwashers tooGreekGameManiac

*bursts into laughter*

so liberals don't want others to conform to their ideas? hmmm?
#40 Posted by Laihendi (5800 posts) -

funny, I always wonder why conservatives are so irrational when I bring up the fact that we can lower abortion rates by increasing access to birth control.

Serraph105
There is nothing wrong with abortions and people should pay for their own birth control. Sex is a recreational activity and it is a choice. I shouldn't have to pay for someone else's birth control. If a woman wants to have sex then she should take responsibility for herself and her actions.
#41 Posted by mahlasor (1278 posts) -

http://www.angelfire.com/emo2/republican/Manual.htm

I think this is the best time for this info. Judging by your threads, I see how these tactics are employed. The number one tactic is the liberal army and bomb throwing. Once you understand how a liberal thinks, they look like scripts.

#42 Posted by 22Toothpicks (11279 posts) -
[QUOTE="Serraph105"]

funny, I always wonder why conservatives are so irrational when I bring up the fact that we can lower abortion rates by increasing access to birth control.

Laihendi
There is nothing wrong with abortions and people should pay for their own birth control. Sex is a recreational activity and it is a choice. I shouldn't have to pay for someone else's birth control. If a woman wants to have sex then she should take responsibility for herself and her actions.

i think i may throw-up...but...i...agree with...yo*RALPH*
#43 Posted by Moriarity_ (1349 posts) -
How come republicans are always closed-minded and irrational when it comes to...everything? See I can generalize too.
#44 Posted by Laihendi (5800 posts) -

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]

Someone taking responsibility for his own life and expenses rather than having the government steal money from people to buy stuff for others is in no way the equivalent of having your house catch on fire and dumping gasoline on it to try to put it out. That is one of the worst analogies I have ever seen.Kickinurass

The issue is that you're only makes the problem worse. It in no way solves the underlying issues (besides being completely unreasonable at this point). Hence the analogy. Honestly, if that was Ron Paul's actual suggestion, that probably the greatest amount of idiocy I've seen expressed on the issue. I'd wager an hour of research could have avoided that.

How is someone taking responsibility for his own expenses making anything worse? What underlying issues are solved by socialized healthcare as opposed to people simply taking responsibility for their own healthcare?
#45 Posted by HoolaHoopMan (7730 posts) -
lol at Laihendi calling other people irrationalchessmaster1989
#46 Posted by GreekGameManiac (6439 posts) -

How come republicans are always closed-minded and irrational when it comes to...everything? See I can generalize too.Moriarity_

Ikr?

#47 Posted by Mafiree (3704 posts) -
Both sides have nutters.......
#48 Posted by Kickinurass (3357 posts) -

How is someone taking responsibility for his own expenses making anything worse? What underlying issues are solved by socialized healthcare as opposed to people simply taking responsibility for their own healthcare?Laihendi

The governmental goal of providing affordable and quality healthcare to all it's citizens, not just the ones able to pay?

Question - do you also support the removal of EMTALA?

#49 Posted by mahlasor (1278 posts) -

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]How is someone taking responsibility for his own expenses making anything worse? What underlying issues are solved by socialized healthcare as opposed to people simply taking responsibility for their own healthcare?Kickinurass

The governmental goal of providing affordable and quality healthcare to all it's citizens, not just the ones able to pay?

Question - do you also support the removal of EMTALA?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

#50 Posted by Lotus-Edge (50439 posts) -

http://www.angelfire.com/emo2/republican/Manual.htm

I think this is the best time for this info. Judging by your threads, I see how these tactics are employed. The number one tactic is the liberal army and bomb throwing. Once you understand how a liberal thinks, they look like scripts.

mahlasor

You could switch "conservative" and "liberal" in that and it'd work almost the exact same way....