The One Major Flaw of Christianity

Before I begin, I am not an Athiest. I do believe in a higher power or "god" of the universe(s). However I cannot accept the Christian version of god. I have tried but there is one nagging fact the keeps me from becoming a Christian.

That is believing in Jesus, gods only son, IS THE ONLY WAY INTO HEAVEN. NO MATTER WHAT VALUES YOU LIVE YOUR LIFE BY. I'll explain.
A serial killer, rapist, career criminal can live his life anyway he wants to. But as long as he sincerely believes in Jesus Christ or accepts him at the last minute. He has bought his way into heaven.
However, someone who lives a just and moral life and does things to help out in society will still end up in hell if he does not believe in Jesus Christ. Believing in a higher power is simply not enough.
I'm sorry but I simply cannot accept this. That would mean the only reason to life, or to live is for Jesus. Which would mean anything else you do in life is meaningless if it wasn't for him. You could simply do whatever you wanted in life and copout at the last moment by sincerly accepting him.

Sorry for the rant but I've always heard Christians say something along this line. And I read a story about someone's near death experience. He was being judged and he found out that he wasn't even close to getting into heaven despite all the good things he's done in his life. When he came back, he said no matter what you do, the only way into heaven is believing in Jesusmanic626

This is absolutely false.

To be a Christian, you must believe in Christ. This much is true. But a serial killer, rapist, etc. can not get into heaven. People who only "believe" in Jesus for afterlife insurance will not enter Heaven.

[QUOTE="manic626"]Before I begin, I am not an Athiest. I do believe in a higher power or "god" of the universe(s). However I cannot accept the Christian version of god. I have tried but there is one nagging fact the keeps me from becoming a Christian.

That is believing in Jesus, gods only son, IS THE ONLY WAY INTO HEAVEN. NO MATTER WHAT VALUES YOU LIVE YOUR LIFE BY. I'll explain.
A serial killer, rapist, career criminal can live his life anyway he wants to. But as long as he sincerely believes in Jesus Christ or accepts him at the last minute. He has bought his way into heaven.
However, someone who lives a just and moral life and does things to help out in society will still end up in hell if he does not believe in Jesus Christ. Believing in a higher power is simply not enough.
I'm sorry but I simply cannot accept this. That would mean the only reason to life, or to live is for Jesus. Which would mean anything else you do in life is meaningless if it wasn't for him. You could simply do whatever you wanted in life and copout at the last moment by sincerly accepting him.

Sorry for the rant but I've always heard Christians say something along this line. And I read a story about someone's near death experience. He was being judged and he found out that he wasn't even close to getting into heaven despite all the good things he's done in his life. When he came back, he said no matter what you do, the only way into heaven is believing in JesusSilver_Dragon17

This is absolutely false.

To be a Christian, you must believe in Christ. This much is true. But a serial killer, rapist, etc. can not get into heaven. People who only "believe" in Jesus for afterlife insurance will not enter Heaven.

Wrong. You CAN repent and get into Heaven regardless of prior sins. It's called forgiveness....and Christianity is an advocate of it.

But it's not a flaw...

i think the one flaw is that they only follow certain parts of the bible that fit them and take out the ones they dont' like. You can't pick and choose when its the word of God. Its either believe in it all or don't believe in it at all.

i think the one flaw is that they only follow certain parts of the bible that fit them and take out the ones they dont' like. You can't pick and choose when its the word of God. Its either believe in it all or don't believe in it at all.

crusher2002000

Give an example of this.

i think the one flaw is that they only follow certain parts of the bible that fit them and take out the ones they dont' like. You can't pick and choose when its the word of God. Its either believe in it all or don't believe in it at all.

crusher2002000

You have to follow the teachings in the NT...those are the teachings that are Christian.:)

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

[QUOTE="manic626"]Before I begin, I am not an Athiest. I do believe in a higher power or "god" of the universe(s). However I cannot accept the Christian version of god. I have tried but there is one nagging fact the keeps me from becoming a Christian.

That is believing in Jesus, gods only son, IS THE ONLY WAY INTO HEAVEN. NO MATTER WHAT VALUES YOU LIVE YOUR LIFE BY. I'll explain.
A serial killer, rapist, career criminal can live his life anyway he wants to. But as long as he sincerely believes in Jesus Christ or accepts him at the last minute. He has bought his way into heaven.
However, someone who lives a just and moral life and does things to help out in society will still end up in hell if he does not believe in Jesus Christ. Believing in a higher power is simply not enough.
I'm sorry but I simply cannot accept this. That would mean the only reason to life, or to live is for Jesus. Which would mean anything else you do in life is meaningless if it wasn't for him. You could simply do whatever you wanted in life and copout at the last moment by sincerly accepting him.

Sorry for the rant but I've always heard Christians say something along this line. And I read a story about someone's near death experience. He was being judged and he found out that he wasn't even close to getting into heaven despite all the good things he's done in his life. When he came back, he said no matter what you do, the only way into heaven is believing in JesusLJS9502_basic

This is absolutely false.

To be a Christian, you must believe in Christ. This much is true. But a serial killer, rapist, etc. can not get into heaven. People who only "believe" in Jesus for afterlife insurance will not enter Heaven.

Wrong. You CAN repent and get into Heaven regardless of prior sins. It's called forgiveness....and Christianity is an advocate of it.

But it's not a flaw...

I meant after the fact. . .

i think the one flaw is that they only follow certain parts of the bible that fit them and take out the ones they dont' like. You can't pick and choose when its the word of God. Its either believe in it all or don't believe in it at all.

crusher2002000

I love how people who know nothing of what I believe tell me how I should believe in it.

Give some examples.

However,someone who lives a just and moral life and does things to help out in society will still end up in hell if he does not believe in Jesus Christ.manic626

before this is another 300+ page thread that gets way off topic let me just make a point. Youre wrong, serial killers can't got o heaven unless they are truely sorry, then jesus can forgive them. if they use christ as a "get out of hell free card" they are royaly boned.

but you are correct, good people who dont believe in christ go to hell even SilverD doesn't deny that. So Buddha and Gandhi and I will be able to have a poker game in hell! yey!

I don't think most Christians believe that believing that Jesus was god's son is all that it takes to be saved. I've only ever heard a few small groups say that.

I think it's important to realize that by what is written in christian scripture, it is not up to man to decide who would go to heaven, hell, purgatory, other, etc. I think the christian bible plainly establishes God as the supreme judge of man and if any man tells you with absolute certainty that you are going to hell, heaven, purgatory, other, etc, he is a liar.

Assuming the biblical afterlife is true, God judges each person according to their own life, not what a man on earth said.

Edit: Also it is mentioned in the bible that sin will never enter into heaven. If a sinner just says on his death bed that he believes Jesus was the son of God, and he doesn't repent from his sin and remove it or have it removed from his life, just for the sake of entering heaven, it seems like God will have to remove the sin for him if he were going to enter heaven.

[QUOTE="manic626"]
However,someone who lives a just and moral life and does things to help out in society will still end up in hell if he does not believe in Jesus Christ.DrummerJon

but you are correct, good people who dont believe in christ go to hell even SilverD doesn't deny that. So Buddha and Gandhi and I will be able to have a poker game in hell! yey!

No, I don't deny that. And yes, I think Gandhi is in Hell. However, Hell has varying degrees of punishment. A "good" person who goes to hell will not have as hard a time as a "bad" person.

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

[QUOTE="manic626"]Before I begin, I am not an Athiest. I do believe in a higher power or "god" of the universe(s). However I cannot accept the Christian version of god. I have tried but there is one nagging fact the keeps me from becoming a Christian.

That is believing in Jesus, gods only son, IS THE ONLY WAY INTO HEAVEN. NO MATTER WHAT VALUES YOU LIVE YOUR LIFE BY. I'll explain.
A serial killer, rapist, career criminal can live his life anyway he wants to. But as long as he sincerely believes in Jesus Christ or accepts him at the last minute. He has bought his way into heaven.
However, someone who lives a just and moral life and does things to help out in society will still end up in hell if he does not believe in Jesus Christ. Believing in a higher power is simply not enough.
I'm sorry but I simply cannot accept this. That would mean the only reason to life, or to live is for Jesus. Which would mean anything else you do in life is meaningless if it wasn't for him. You could simply do whatever you wanted in life and copout at the last moment by sincerly accepting him.

Sorry for the rant but I've always heard Christians say something along this line. And I read a story about someone's near death experience. He was being judged and he found out that he wasn't even close to getting into heaven despite all the good things he's done in his life. When he came back, he said no matter what you do, the only way into heaven is believing in JesusLJS9502_basic

This is absolutely false.

To be a Christian, you must believe in Christ. This much is true. But a serial killer, rapist, etc. can not get into heaven. People who only "believe" in Jesus for afterlife insurance will not enter Heaven.

Wrong. You CAN repent and get into Heaven regardless of prior sins. It's called forgiveness....and Christianity is an advocate of it.

But it's not a flaw...

So I can go out and rape 50 people and kill 50 more people and as long as I go to a confession booth and admit to my sins I'm forgiven.

[QUOTE="DrummerJon"]

[QUOTE="manic626"]
However,someone who lives a just and moral life and does things to help out in society will still end up in hell if he does not believe in Jesus Christ.Silver_Dragon17

but you are correct, good people who dont believe in christ go to hell even SilverD doesn't deny that. So Buddha and Gandhi and I will be able to have a poker game in hell! yey!

No, I don't deny that. And yes, I think Gandhi is in Hell. However, Hell has varying degrees of punishment. A "good" person who goes to hell will not have as hard a time as a "bad" person.

Where did you come up with that?

So I can go out and rape 50 people and kill 50 more people and as long as I go to a confession booth and admit to my sins I'm forgiven.

MGS9150

No...it doesn't work that way. You have to be sorry.....you can't just say hey I did this. And God can look into your heart.

why do christians always try and rub their religion in everyone's faces ( im talking to u evangelicalists)crusher2002000

Why do people stereotype, generalize, and enter threads that don't interest them?

Well there are like 50,000,000 flaws with christianity, but I'd say the major one is that people believe in it.....

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

[QUOTE="manic626"]Before I begin, I am not an Athiest. I do believe in a higher power or "god" of the universe(s). However I cannot accept the Christian version of god. I have tried but there is one nagging fact the keeps me from becoming a Christian.

That is believing in Jesus, gods only son, IS THE ONLY WAY INTO HEAVEN. NO MATTER WHAT VALUES YOU LIVE YOUR LIFE BY. I'll explain.
A serial killer, rapist, career criminal can live his life anyway he wants to. But as long as he sincerely believes in Jesus Christ or accepts him at the last minute. He has bought his way into heaven.
However, someone who lives a just and moral life and does things to help out in society will still end up in hell if he does not believe in Jesus Christ. Believing in a higher power is simply not enough.
I'm sorry but I simply cannot accept this. That would mean the only reason to life, or to live is for Jesus. Which would mean anything else you do in life is meaningless if it wasn't for him. You could simply do whatever you wanted in life and copout at the last moment by sincerly accepting him.

Sorry for the rant but I've always heard Christians say something along this line. And I read a story about someone's near death experience. He was being judged and he found out that he wasn't even close to getting into heaven despite all the good things he's done in his life. When he came back, he said no matter what you do, the only way into heaven is believing in JesusLJS9502_basic

This is absolutely false.

To be a Christian, you must believe in Christ. This much is true. But a serial killer, rapist, etc. can not get into heaven. People who only "believe" in Jesus for afterlife insurance will not enter Heaven.

Wrong. You CAN repent and get into Heaven regardless of prior sins. It's called forgiveness....and Christianity is an advocate of it.

But it's not a flaw...

why do christians always try and rub their religion in everyone's faces ( im talking to u evangelicalists)crusher2002000

Nice job you did answering my question. We're trying to rub our religion in everyone's faces? Atheists are the ones constantly bashing Christianity along with other religions.

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="DrummerJon"]

[QUOTE="manic626"]
However,someone who lives a just and moral life and does things to help out in society will still end up in hell if he does not believe in Jesus Christ.LJS9502_basic

but you are correct, good people who dont believe in christ go to hell even SilverD doesn't deny that. So Buddha and Gandhi and I will be able to have a poker game in hell! yey!

No, I don't deny that. And yes, I think Gandhi is in Hell. However, Hell has varying degrees of punishment. A "good" person who goes to hell will not have as hard a time as a "bad" person.

Where did you come up with that?

Where did you come up with that?

LJS9502_basic

Jesus informed the citizens of certain communities in Galilee that in the day of judgment, it would be "more tolerable" for certain people of the ancient world (e.g., Tyre, Sidon, and Sodom) than for them (Mt. 11:20-24; cf. 10:15). The word "tolerable" means "bearable, endurable." In the Greek Testament the word represents a comparative format. The difference was in the opportunities each had enjoyed. Judgment was to be balanced against this factor.

Christ told about a certain master who took a trip. While he was away, his servants, who had been charged with various responsibilities, disobeyed him. When the Lord returned, and discovered that some had knowingly been disobedient, while others had disobeyed in ignorance, he punished them according to the level of their culpability (Lk. 12:47-48). There is perhaps no clearer passage than this, that teaches degrees of punishment.

During the course of his trial, Jesus informed Pilate: "He who delivered me unto you has the greater sin" (Jn. 19:11). Does not justice require a greater punishment for a greater sin?

A man who set aside the law of God under the Mosaic regime, was executed without mercy. The writer of the book of Hebrews declares that the one who tramples on the Son of God and who treats, as a common thing, the blood by which he was sanctified, will deserve a much "worse" punishment (Heb. 10:26-31). The principle is this: there is a greater level of responsibility for those who live under the better covenant, and there will be appropriate punishment meted out for those who, through apostasy, reject that which they previously embraced.

The apostle Peter wrote regarding those who had "escaped the defilements of the world" by virtue of their knowledge of the truth, i.e., obedience to the gospel (2 Pet. 2:20-22; cf. 1 Pet. 4:17). He warned that should they become entangled again in these defilements, and overcome, their "last state" (their apostate condition) would be "worse" than the first (the pre-conversion state). Ominously, he says it would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness, than, after knowing it, to turn back to their former lifestyle. This, most assuredly, teaches a greater level of punishment for apostate Christians than for those who never knew the truth.

James provides a word of caution appropriate to this topic. "Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness" (3:1 ESV). Is there any question about the implication of that warning?

Well there are like 50,000,000 flaws with christianity, but I'd say the major one is that people believe in it.....

TallicaFan2005

And yet again....intolerance.:roll:

the idea of differing levels of hell is mentioned no where in scripturemig_killer2

It's mentioned several times in Scripture.:|

i think the one flaw is that they only follow certain parts of the bible that fit them and take out the ones they dont' like. You can't pick and choose when its the word of God. Its either believe in it all or don't believe in it at all.

crusher2002000

I think the major flaw with Christianity is why did God create man? What is the real reason for man's existence?

I've heard different theories for this that span from it was just a grand experiment which is the reason for all existence and that God was just bored. I've never heard a reason that really made sense to me though.

If it was an experiment, why program the world in a way that evil would exist because God already knew the outcome and would know the result of the experiment.

I suppose just saying that God was bored is the best reason I've heard of, but it's really strange that the most ultimate power in existence would have little toys to play with for billions of years.

[QUOTE="crusher2002000"]why do christians always try and rub their religion in everyone's faces ( im talking to u evangelicalists)SilentFireX

Nice job you did answering my question. We're trying to rub our religion in everyone's faces? Atheists are the ones constantly bashing Christianity along with other religions.

im not an atheist. i don't know if there is a god or not. nobody knows unless they have actually seen it. just because someone believes its real doesn't mean its the truth.

[QUOTE="SilentFireX"]

[QUOTE="crusher2002000"]why do christians always try and rub their religion in everyone's faces ( im talking to u evangelicalists)crusher2002000

im not an atheist. i don't know if there is a god or not. nobody knows unless they have actually seen it. just because someone believes its real doesn't mean its the truth.

Nice job you did answering my question. We're trying to rub our religion in everyone's faces? Atheists are the ones constantly bashing Christianity along with other religions.

You've yet to answer my question...

I think the major flaw with Christianity is why did God create man? What is the real reason for man's existence?

I've heard different theories for this that span from it was just a grand experiment which is the reason for all existence and that God was just bored. I've never heard a reason that really made sense to me though.

If it was an experiment, why program the world in a way that evil would exist because God already knew the outcome and would know the result of the experiment.

I suppose just saying that God was bored is the best reason I've heard of, but it's really strange that the most ultimate power in existence would have little toys to play with for billions of years.

guynamedbilly

Nobody really knows. It's never mentioned why. We'll just have to wait and see.

Before I begin, I am not an Athiest. I do believe in a higher power or "god" of the universe(s). However I cannot accept the Christian version of god. I have tried but there is one nagging fact the keeps me from becoming a Christian.

That is believing in Jesus, gods only son, IS THE ONLY WAY INTO HEAVEN. NO MATTER WHAT VALUES YOU LIVE YOUR LIFE BY. I'll explain.
A serial killer, rapist, career criminal can live his life anyway he wants to. But as long as he sincerely believes in Jesus Christ or accepts him at the last minute. He has bought his way into heaven.
However, someone who lives a just and moral life and does things to help out in society will still end up in hell if he does not believe in Jesus Christ. Believing in a higher power is simply not enough.
I'm sorry but I simply cannot accept this. That would mean the only reason to life, or to live is for Jesus. Which would mean anything else you do in life is meaningless if it wasn't for him. You could simply do whatever you wanted in life and copout at the last moment by sincerly accepting him.

Sorry for the rant but I've always heard Christians say something along this line. And I read a story about someone's near death experience. He was being judged and he found out that he wasn't even close to getting into heaven despite all the good things he's done in his life. When he came back, he said no matter what you do, the only way into heaven is believing in Jesusmanic626

That is the truth, your heart has to change. doesn`'t matter what you have done, yes you could change at the last minute. The reason that people can show some sort of goodness is becuase of common grace,

http://www.thirdmill.org/answers/answer.asp/file/99814.qna/category/th/page/questions/site/iiim

(i actually asked that question)

You know the old saying, 'the truth is hard to take', well i believe when the Bible says something along the lines of, 'it was written in the books before the start of the world who will be saved and who won't'.

Though i do not believe i am saved!

[QUOTE="crusher2002000"]

i think the one flaw is that they only follow certain parts of the bible that fit them and take out the ones they dont' like. You can't pick and choose when its the word of God. Its either believe in it all or don't believe in it at all.

LJS9502_basic

You have to follow the teachings in the NT...those are the teachings that are Christian.:)

in the NT it says you have to follow the OT

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Where did you come up with that?

Silver_Dragon17

Jesus informed the citizens of certain communities in Galilee that in the day of judgment, it would be "more tolerable" for certain people of the ancient world (e.g., Tyre, Sidon, and Sodom) than for them (Mt. 11:20-24; cf. 10:15). The word "tolerable" means "bearable, endurable." In the Greek Testament the word represents a comparative format. The difference was in the opportunities each had enjoyed. Judgment was to be balanced against this factor.

Christ told about a certain master who took a trip. While he was away, his servants, who had been charged with various responsibilities, disobeyed him. When the Lord returned, and discovered that some had knowingly been disobedient, while others had disobeyed in ignorance, he punished them according to the level of their culpability (Lk. 12:47-48). There is perhaps no clearer passage than this, that teaches degrees of punishment.

During the course of his trial, Jesus informed Pilate: "He who delivered me unto you has the greater sin" (Jn. 19:11). Does not justice require a greater punishment for a greater sin?

A man who set aside the law of God under the Mosaic regime, was executed without mercy. The writer of the book of Hebrews declares that the one who tramples on the Son of God and who treats, as a common thing, the blood by which he was sanctified, will deserve a much "worse" punishment (Heb. 10:26-31). The principle is this: there is a greater level of responsibility for those who live under the better covenant, and there will be appropriate punishment meted out for those who, through apostasy, reject that which they previously embraced.

The apostle Peter wrote regarding those who had "escaped the defilements of the world" by virtue of their knowledge of the truth, i.e., obedience to the gospel (2 Pet. 2:20-22; cf. 1 Pet. 4:17). He warned that should they become entangled again in these defilements, and overcome, their "last state" (their apostate condition) would be "worse" than the first (the pre-conversion state). Ominously, he says it would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness, than, after knowing it, to turn back to their former lifestyle. This, most assuredly, teaches a greater level of punishment for apostate Christians than for those who never knew the truth.

James provides a word of caution appropriate to this topic. "Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness" (3:1 ESV). Is there any question about the implication of that warning?

Mt 11 20-24 Is a warning to unrepentent towns that they will be severly punished if they don't repent.

Lk. 12 47-48 Is a warning that much more will be required of those entrusted with more.

Jn 19 11 Is not the same scripture you quoted....though it doesn't matter.

Disregarding OT text.

Anyway...none of that text means what you've interpreted it to mean. There are no varying degrees in Heaven and Hell. You are either saved or you are not. You might want to read the text where Jesus speaks of punishment. In most of your text He is admonishing his disciples that they WILL be held to a stricter accounting.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="crusher2002000"]

i think the one flaw is that they only follow certain parts of the bible that fit them and take out the ones they dont' like. You can't pick and choose when its the word of God. Its either believe in it all or don't believe in it at all.

Loonie

You have to follow the teachings in the NT...those are the teachings that are Christian.:)

in the NT it says you have to follow the OT

That isn't entirely true. Because of Jesus sacrifice for all of humanity on the cross, we no longer have to give sacrifices.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="crusher2002000"]

i think the one flaw is that they only follow certain parts of the bible that fit them and take out the ones they dont' like. You can't pick and choose when its the word of God. Its either believe in it all or don't believe in it at all.

Loonie

You have to follow the teachings in the NT...those are the teachings that are Christian.:)

in the NT it says you have to follow the OT

Scripture text?

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"] the idea of differing levels of hell is mentioned no where in scriptureSilver_Dragon17

It's mentioned several times in Scripture.:|

No it's not...you've misinterpreted the text.

[QUOTE="TallicaFan2005"] Well there are like 50,000,000 flaws with christianity, but I'd say the major one is that people believe in it..... LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Where did you come up with that?

LJS9502_basic

Jesus informed the citizens of certain communities in Galilee that in the day of judgment, it would be "more tolerable" for certain people of the ancient world (e.g., Tyre, Sidon, and Sodom) than for them (Mt. 11:20-24; cf. 10:15). The word "tolerable" means "bearable, endurable." In the Greek Testament the word represents a comparative format. The difference was in the opportunities each had enjoyed. Judgment was to be balanced against this factor.

Christ told about a certain master who took a trip. While he was away, his servants, who had been charged with various responsibilities, disobeyed him. When the Lord returned, and discovered that some had knowingly been disobedient, while others had disobeyed in ignorance, he punished them according to the level of their culpability (Lk. 12:47-48). There is perhaps no clearer passage than this, that teaches degrees of punishment.

During the course of his trial, Jesus informed Pilate: "He who delivered me unto you has the greater sin" (Jn. 19:11). Does not justice require a greater punishment for a greater sin?

A man who set aside the law of God under the Mosaic regime, was executed without mercy. The writer of the book of Hebrews declares that the one who tramples on the Son of God and who treats, as a common thing, the blood by which he was sanctified, will deserve a much "worse" punishment (Heb. 10:26-31). The principle is this: there is a greater level of responsibility for those who live under the better covenant, and there will be appropriate punishment meted out for those who, through apostasy, reject that which they previously embraced.

The apostle Peter wrote regarding those who had "escaped the defilements of the world" by virtue of their knowledge of the truth, i.e., obedience to the gospel (2 Pet. 2:20-22; cf. 1 Pet. 4:17). He warned that should they become entangled again in these defilements, and overcome, their "last state" (their apostate condition) would be "worse" than the first (the pre-conversion state). Ominously, he says it would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness, than, after knowing it, to turn back to their former lifestyle. This, most assuredly, teaches a greater level of punishment for apostate Christians than for those who never knew the truth.

James provides a word of caution appropriate to this topic. "Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness" (3:1 ESV). Is there any question about the implication of that warning?

Mt 11 20-24 Is a warning to unrepentent towns that they will be severly punished if they don't repent.

Lk. 12 47-48 Is a warning that much more will be required of those entrusted with more.

Jn 19 11 Is not the same scripture you quoted....though it doesn't matter.

Disregarding OT text.

Anyway...none of that text means what you've interpreted it to mean. There are no varying degrees in Heaven and Hell. You are either saved or you are not. You might want to read the text where Jesus speaks of punishment. In most of your text He is admonishing his disciples that they WILL be held to a stricter accounting.

Perhaps you're right. But I still think there are varying degrees of punishment/reward in hell/heaven.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="TallicaFan2005"] Well there are like 50,000,000 flaws with christianity, but I'd say the major one is that people believe in it..... TallicaFan2005

Study history...you might learn that mankind is rarely nice to those who are different or have something they want. And unless you can provide proof that all Christians slaughtered Native Americans you statement is baseless.

Before I begin, I am not an Athiest. I do believe in a higher power or "god" of the universe(s). However I cannot accept the Christian version of god. I have tried but there is one nagging fact the keeps me from becoming a Christian.

That is believing in Jesus, gods only son, IS THE ONLY WAY INTO HEAVEN. NO MATTER WHAT VALUES YOU LIVE YOUR LIFE BY. I'll explain.
A serial killer, rapist, career criminal can live his life anyway he wants to. But as long as he sincerely believes in Jesus Christ or accepts him at the last minute. He has bought his way into heaven.
However, someone who lives a just and moral life and does things to help out in society will still end up in hell if he does not believe in Jesus Christ. Believing in a higher power is simply not enough.
I'm sorry but I simply cannot accept this. That would mean the only reason to life, or to live is for Jesus. Which would mean anything else you do in life is meaningless if it wasn't for him. You could simply do whatever you wanted in life and copout at the last moment by sincerly accepting him.

Sorry for the rant but I've always heard Christians say something along this line. And I read a story about someone's near death experience. He was being judged and he found out that he wasn't even close to getting into heaven despite all the good things he's done in his life. When he came back, he said no matter what you do, the only way into heaven is believing in Jesusmanic626

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="TallicaFan2005"] Well there are like 50,000,000 flaws with christianity, but I'd say the major one is that people believe in it..... TallicaFan2005

That is not what happened. . .also, so what? You're blaming us for what some idiots did hundreds of years ago?:roll:

i got another flaw. nobody knows what the interpretion is. one church may say one thing another says another. How can one follow this if the churches havent figured out the interpretioncrusher2002000

If you want to make statements....back them up with some examples. Otherwise, your statement is meaningless.

i got another flaw. nobody knows what the interpretion is. one church may say one thing another says another. How can one follow this if the churches havent figured out the interpretioncrusher2002000

Because all denominations agree on one thing: Jesus. There's your Christianity, and everybody agrees.

i got another flaw. nobody knows what the interpretion is. one church may say one thing another says another. How can one follow this if the churches havent figured out the interpretioncrusher2002000

That's why there's different denominations. Different denominations may believe different things.

[QUOTE="TallicaFan2005"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="TallicaFan2005"] Well there are like 50,000,000 flaws with christianity, but I'd say the major one is that people believe in it..... Silver_Dragon17

That is not what happened. . .also, so what? You're blaming us for what some idiots did hundreds of years ago?:roll:

Yes, the same way religious people blame Hitler Stalin, et al. on atheism.

Perhaps you're right. But I still think there are varying degrees of punishment/reward in hell/heaven.

Silver_Dragon17

Is that something you need to believe?