Texan Family Law Judge "disciplines" his child.

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#1 Vadislav
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Trigger Warning: Abuse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl9y3SIPt7o&feature=youtu.be&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2F

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=006_1320194791

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#2 mrmusicman247
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I won't lie. I got beat worse than that when I was young.
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#3 pspdseagle
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That's downright abuse, poor girl...
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#4 JasonDarksavior
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Don't really know what to say ... Feel sorry for the girl.
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#5 WilliamRLBaker
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As I said on giantbomb.

Its odd that shes now 23 and finally releasing this video...I've had enough of the abuse well then your past 18 thats when you leave it seems at this point its just a revenge scenario and I personally condone the whipping of a child when they dont follow the rules or are bad.

As well one has to question how and why is this on video tape?
Note: Its admitted in the description the girl was caught pirating games and music and this is why she was beaten...It also says in the description the man in question is backwards and anti technology...yet he has a computer in the house and possibly a webcam and or video camera in the house that was used to record this...
Note 2: It also says in the description the wife should not be blamed that she was somehow manipulated through abuse her self to abuse her daughter but you can see in the video the mother just keeps hitting the child long after the father leaves the room...

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#6 Animatronic64
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I won't lie. I got beat worse than that when I was young. mrmusicman247
Did you get revenge?
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#7 commander
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may be she had it coming but off course that's not on the tape
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#8 XilePrincess
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And these are the people allowed to judge others on their family interactions? I've gotten the belt before, but it wasn't a beating. It was a smack or two and that was it, not repeated hitting. And it was a "if it was within reach" thing, not "go get the belt". Poor kid, I hope she gets a new home soon.
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#9 WilliamRLBaker
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And these are the people allowed to judge others on their family interactions? I've gotten the belt before, but it wasn't a beating. It was a smack or two and that was it, not repeated hitting. And it was a "if it was within reach" thing, not "go get the belt". Poor kid, I hope she gets a new home soon.XilePrincess
shes 23 already *this was taken 7 years ago*
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#10 Animatronic64
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You know, one thing I learned from getting beat is that beating people is wrong, and I won't do it to my kids if I ever have them. There's other ways to teach discipline.

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#11 JML897
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may be she had it coming but off course that's not on the tapeevildead6789

She illegally downloaded music and videogames. If you consider that as "she had it coming", sure.

I think the parents are a couple of psychopaths.

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[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]And these are the people allowed to judge others on their family interactions? I've gotten the belt before, but it wasn't a beating. It was a smack or two and that was it, not repeated hitting. And it was a "if it was within reach" thing, not "go get the belt". Poor kid, I hope she gets a new home soon.WilliamRLBaker
shes 23 already *this was taken 7 years ago*

Ahh. Too early, not awake yet. The room did look really dated, but I figured I was just seeing things. Hope she DID find a new home then, and doesn't have to deal with her abusive parents anymore.
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#13 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="evildead6789"]may be she had it coming but off course that's not on the tapeJML897

She illegally downloaded music and videogames. If you consider that as "she had it coming", sure.

I think the parents are a couple of psychopaths.

I think all hackers and pirates should get much of the same treatment...I mean certainly if they go to jail they'll get much like it...
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#14 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="XilePrincess"]And these are the people allowed to judge others on their family interactions? I've gotten the belt before, but it wasn't a beating. It was a smack or two and that was it, not repeated hitting. And it was a "if it was within reach" thing, not "go get the belt". Poor kid, I hope she gets a new home soon.XilePrincess
shes 23 already *this was taken 7 years ago*

Ahh. Too early, not awake yet. The room did look really dated, but I figured I was just seeing things. Hope she DID find a new home then, and doesn't have to deal with her abusive parents anymore.

She did she moved out long ago, and had an argument with her father over the phone and decided to post this online when he was up for reelection.
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#15 Palantas
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Doesn't bother me. I got paddled as a kid. My girlfriend tells me that people who are paddled as children are more likely to grow up and be perverts, and that works pretty well for us.

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#16 CHOASXIII
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Spanking on the butt is one thing, even belting(not too hard) on the butt is also but belting in the leg and on other body parts, that is abuse.

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#17 Animatronic64
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Spanking on the butt is one thing, even belting(not too hard) on the butt is also but belting in the leg and on other body parts, that is abuse.

CHOASXIII
I'm sorry, but does a 16 year old really need to be spanked on the ass? Also, why is the ass okay, while the rest of the body isn't?
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#18 Necrifer
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Also, why is the ass okay, while the rest of the body isn't?

Animatronic64

Two reasons.

As a small child, nobody (except the parents in some cases) will be looking at the child's ass.
It's a padded area that absorbs most shock and recovers quickly.

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#19 Animatronic64
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[QUOTE="Animatronic64"]

Also, why is the ass okay, while the rest of the body isn't?

Necrifer

Two reasons.

As a small child, nobody (except the parents in some cases) will be looking at the child's ass.
It's a padded area that absorbs most shock and recovers quickly.

Yeah, asses are pretty good at absorbing shocks. Good point.

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#20 jimmyjammer69
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And now he has no family. You get out what you put in. I'd still rather have a guy like that deciding on family matters than criminal ones.
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#21 TehFuneral
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I honestly don't know what to think of this.

I never got the belt before.

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#22 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="Animatronic64"][QUOTE="CHOASXIII"]

Spanking on the butt is one thing, even belting(not too hard) on the butt is also but belting in the leg and on other body parts, that is abuse.

I'm sorry, but does a 16 year old really need to be spanked on the ass? Also, why is the ass okay, while the rest of the body isn't?

technically cause much like if you shoot a cop below the belt it can't be considered intent to kill or attempted murder...If you whip a kids butt and no where else you can't technically be told you were abusing that child for the fun of it.
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#23 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

I honestly don't know what to think of this.

I never got the belt before.

belt, switch but Id rather have those then my deceased *bless his soul* fathers hand...we are talking about a 6'9" 280lb man he had hands like dinner plates.
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#24 lancea34
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Last time my mother slapped my face I almost stabbed her with a fork. In a situation like that girl had I would have probably had a VERY violent reaction.

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#25 Fightingfan
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This is why you beat your parents when you become an adult.

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#26 MgamerBD
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That was not that bad. He did not hit her face, or body just the legs and butt. That is an old fashion beating, not abuse. Trust me it happened to me...its not so bad if you just listen.
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#27 mexicangordo
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O here we go again, the good ol, OT "Ive been through worse" scenarios.

I dont mind discipline, but there's hundreds of ways to punish a child/teen without ever hurting them in any way. That is abuse, and if you say you've been through similar or worse, then you have gone through child abuse. Plain and simple.

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#28 Riverwolf007
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well, strippers gotta come from someplace people.

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#29 coolbeans90
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Seems excessive.

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#30 branketra
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Computers don't beat people, people beat people.
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Sometimes I wish Spawn existed in real life.
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#32 weezyfb
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That was not that bad. He did not hit her face, or body just the legs and butt. That is an old fashion beating, not abuse. Trust me it happened to me...its not so bad if you just listen.MgamerBD
well he is a judge, he knows where to hit her so teachers don't ask questions
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#33 Just-Breathe
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People, this isn't discipline its flat-out abuse.
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#34 Chris_Williams
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That was not that bad. He did not hit her face, or body just the legs and butt. That is an old fashion beating, not abuse. Trust me it happened to me...its not so bad if you just listen.MgamerBD
naw man thats abuse, the guy was cleary taking out his anger on her, the girl just downloaded things off the web, he was going overboard, you can cleary tell the mom was trying to stop him and just finish the job because he was taking it to far.
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#35 Overlord93
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This isn't being done to teach any lesson, she's beyond the age where that would work anyway. This is being done out of rage and loss of self control on the parent's part. And when that is the case, it is abuse, not punishment.
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#36 Franko_3
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This is sick. I am glad to have modern parents that were against all kind of abuse.
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O here we go again, the good ol, OT "Ive been through worse" scenarios.

I dont mind discipline, but there's hundreds of ways to punish a child/teen without ever hurting them in any way. That is abuse, and if you say you've been through similar or worse, then you have gone through child abuse. Plain and simple.

mexicangordo

Exactly. I am so thankful that my parents were never like this. They never hit me. The worst thing that's ever happened was when my mom grabbed me. And to be quite honest, I was being a jerk and deserved it for talking to her like I was. Haven't talked to her like that since. My parents always took a different approach to things. For example, since I'm driving soon, my dad told me that if my friends and I ever drink or something and need rides or somewhere to stay, to call him. He'd much rather have to come pick us up, drunk, then have one of us drive and kill everyone in the car. And yet, I've never done any drug or tried drinking. They never said don't do this or don't do that. And I never went through a rebellious phase. My parents never gave me a reason to. I appreciate my parents so much when I see something like this.

Anyways, that is flat out abuse. You should never hit your kids like that, or anyone for that matter. I don't even know how you could bring yourself to hit your kid like that. Especially a girl. It is just so awful.

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It's just discipline, learn to take a beating. Funny video, good find.

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#39 Phaze-Two
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im against spanking, and im thankful i wasn't spanked much as a kid.

heres a video about the effects of spanking: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONNRfflggBg

and, yeah she's a young woman now, and this vid is from years ago. this may be because she's now old enough, and feels stong/ready enough to reveal her abusive childhood and expose her father and she's ready to deal with all the consequences. just speculation.

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#40 Phaze-Two
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It's just discipline, learn to take a beating. Funny video, good find.

StealthMonkey4

you have to have something wrong with your mind to think that's funny. even if you're for spanking, it's not funny.

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#41 -Shooter-
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It's just discipline, learn to take a beating. Funny video, good find.

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Funny video? :|

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#42 Phaze-Two
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[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

It's just discipline, learn to take a beating. Funny video, good find.

-Shooter-

Funny video? :|

yeah, and what use is learning to take a beating? so you can make a good slave I guess?

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[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

It's just discipline, learn to take a beating. Funny video, good find.

-Shooter-

Funny video? :|

Yeah. It's discipline. She should've bent over, taken her beating like a mature teenager and moved on. Instead she squirmed around, whined and cried.

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[QUOTE="-Shooter-"]

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

It's just discipline, learn to take a beating. Funny video, good find.

Phaze-Two

Funny video? :|

yeah, and what use is learning to take a beating? so you can make a good slave I guess?

She's not a very strong invidual if she can't take a few hits from a belt. If you've been to other countries and seen some of the discipline there, this video is nothing...

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[QUOTE="-Shooter-"]

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

It's just discipline, learn to take a beating. Funny video, good find.

StealthMonkey4

Funny video? :|

Yeah. It's discipline. She should've bent over, taken her beating like a mature teenager and moved on. Instead she squirmed around, whined and cried.

could be partially due to the fact that she is handicapped, ya know.

also, it certainly seemed like the father was taking out his anger on her. that's not how you're supposed to discipline a child.

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#46 -Shooter-
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[QUOTE="-Shooter-"]

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

It's just discipline, learn to take a beating. Funny video, good find.

StealthMonkey4

Funny video? :|

Yeah. It's discipline. She should've bent over, taken her beating like a mature teenager and moved on. Instead she squirmed around, whined and cried.

And it's funny because..?

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#47 Phaze-Two
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[QUOTE="Phaze-Two"]

[QUOTE="-Shooter-"] Funny video? :|

StealthMonkey4

yeah, and what use is learning to take a beating? so you can make a good slave I guess?

She's not a very strong invidual if she can't take a few hits from a belt. If you've been to other countries and seen some of the discipline there, this video is nothing...

oh yeah, i forgot, two wrongs do make a right. :roll:

i disagree about her not being strong. i view people who just stand there and take a beating as being weak/defeated.

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#48 Shadowchronicle
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You know, one thing I learned from getting beat is that beating people is wrong, and I won't do it to my kids if I ever have them. There's other ways to teach discipline.

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Yeah it ******* pisses me off when parents beat their children. Its not right logically either, all thats going to happen is making your child feel insecure everytime they come home. Of course downloading music illegally is bad but why the hell does he have to whip her? It makes me angry to see this because my mom would do the same thing, except it was for things like dropping plates and breaking them, ON ACCIDENT. I hate parents who think they can just whip their child because they "won't make any mistakes anymore". All I've noticed in people who get hit or whipped all the time, is that they just get nervous breakdowns and shut themselves off from school, from work, from things they need to do. I bet this "judge" has whipped her on other occasions as well. I mean I could totally understand hitting your child for beating up other kids or just bullying other kids to the point that the other kid is hurting themselves.
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#49 inoperativeRS
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[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

[QUOTE="Phaze-Two"]

yeah, and what use is learning to take a beating? so you can make a good slave I guess?

Phaze-Two

She's not a very strong invidual if she can't take a few hits from a belt. If you've been to other countries and seen some of the discipline there, this video is nothing...

oh yeah, i forgot, two wrongs do make a right. :roll:

i disagree about her not being strong. i view people who just stand there and take a beating as being weak/defeated.

I find the people that take this as a chance to beat their own chests for 'taking worse' to be living proof of how ridiculously ineffective beatings are as a way to bring up children. That kind of mentality should stay where it belongs - among 12 year olds.
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#50 inoperativeRS
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[QUOTE="shadowchronicle"] I mean I could totally understand hitting your child for beating up other kids or just bullying other kids to the point that the other kid is hurting themselves.

Yeah this is my stance as well, although I am the first to admit that I have strong feelings against bullies since I was bullied over a period of a few years myself. But this video was not a spanking, it was sadistic abuse of a teenager. Should carry the same penalty as other comparable sexual abuses of minors.