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[QUOTE="Kcube"][QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"] We have 11 white history months.Capitan_Kid
That is still the most pathetic thing I hear:roll:
Most if not all the history you learned in school was from a white eurocentric view.Are you unable to learn the rest of the year?
Not really... we had some assembly and that's about it. They also established this National African American Honors Society at my school which has all of us white kids angry. They get awards for making more than a 19 on the ACT. If that's the case, I should get a parade for my ACT score.rcignoniWow, is that legal? Standards shouldn't lower for ethnicities, that's unfair. I could understand for handicapped students, but just because of your race? :s
[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="flash_drive"]I don't hate Black History Month, its just that people don't know how to celebrate it. They think that African culture= Black Culture. They are in no way the same. If you hate BHM though, then that means that you are against any kind of pride for one's race. Just thought I'd put that out there.Tetrarch9I am agaisnt being proud about your race. What a pointless thing to have pride for. Couldn't agree more. It just breeds racism.
I agree. That's why I'm against it as well. It causes racial tension.
[QUOTE="rcignoni"]Not really... we had some assembly and that's about it. They also established this National African American Honors Society at my school which has all of us white kids angry. They get awards for making more than a 19 on the ACT. If that's the case, I should get a parade for my ACT score.Mr_CumberdaleWow, is that legal? Standards shouldn't lower for ethnicities, that's unfair. I could understand for handicapped students, but just because of your race? :s
Yea didn't know that was possible.....based on race
[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"]I'm learning that people who use "brah" to sound black and/or tolerant should probably refrain.Capitan_KidBrah is not of African origin is it?! That'd be freaking awesome if so. I always considered it hawaiian. I consider it southern californian stoner surferan
I always find it amusing to hear people complaining about Black History Month, in the same way that I find it amusing to hear people complain about Justin Bieber.
I'm a black adult, and do you think I actually celebrate black history month? Do you think I intentionally make an effort to learn all about black people during the month of February? No. Because I've got a lot more important **** to do. And on the rare occasions when I actually care to learn more about Black History, I'll do that whenever the hell I feel like it.
Basically, the ONLY situation I can think of in which "Black History Month" is actually a problem is if the person happens to be a child who's still in high school and is being forced to learn about black history for arbitrary reasons. And that's not so much of a "black history month is a problem" kind of thing. It's more of a "yeah...when you're a kid, people force you to learn about that kind of stuff" kind of thing.
In any case...let's assume that black history month actually is a problem. Still, like Justin Bieber, most of my exposure to it comes in the form of me hearing other people ****ing complain about it. Just like pre-teen pop stars completely cease to have any relevancy after one leaves middle school, Black History Month ceases to have any kind of relevance once one leaves high school.
In any case...let's assume that black history month actually is a problem. Still, like Justin Bieber, most of my exposure to it comes in the form of me hearing other people ****ing complain about it. Just like pre-teen pop stars completely cease to have any relevancy after one leaves middle school, Black History Month ceases to have any kind of relevance once one leaves high school.
MrGeezer
This amused me. :lol:
Pretty much. The only time you're really exposed to it is when McDonalds uses it to try and sell burgers.I always find it amusing to hear people complaining about Black History Month, in the same way that I find it amusing to hear people complain about Justin Bieber.
I'm a black adult, and do you think I actually celebrate black history month? Do you think I intentionally make an effort to learn all about black people during the month of February? No. Because I've got a lot more important **** to do. And on the rare occasions when I actually care to learn more about Black History, I'll do that whenever the hell I feel like it.
Basically, the ONLY situation I can think of in which "Black History Month" is actually a problem is if the person happens to be a child who's still in high school and is being forced to learn about black history for arbitrary reasons. And that's not so much of a "black history month is a problem" kind of thing. It's more of a "yeah...when you're a kid, people force you to learn about that kind of stuff" kind of thing.
In any case...let's assume that black history month actually is a problem. Still, like Justin Bieber, most of my exposure to it comes in the form of me hearing other people ****ing complain about it. Just like pre-teen pop stars completely cease to have any relevancy after one leaves middle school, Black History Month ceases to have any kind of relevance once one leaves high school.
MrGeezer
Interesting. Why don't you?I don't condone a month dedicated to race of any kind.[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]
I don't support the month nor am I still in school so no.
Pirate700
this
its racist, pretty much one of the best examples of racism
I don't condone a month dedicated to race of any kind.[QUOTE="Pirate700"]
[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"] Interesting. Why don't you?mrbojangles25
this
its racist, pretty much one of the best examples of racism
Just another example of the white man being racist. (Just kidding but, seriously, who do you think created the ideas?)Black History Month seems a bit silly to me. Why set it aside for a particular month when you could just include noteworthy history pertaining to black people in normal curriculum? I think that would be a healthier approach for all involved, be they student, teacher, black, white, or whatever.
Funny thing is, there are a few out there that believe that having a month set aside is a way to push it to the side and pay attention to more pertinent matters in history for the rest of the school year.Black History Month seems a bit silly to me. Why set it aside for a particular month when you could just include noteworthy history pertaining to black people in normal curriculum? I think that would be a healthier approach for all involved, be they student, teacher, black, white, or whatever.
VigilanteArtist
Interesting. Why don't you?I don't condone a month dedicated to race of any kind.[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]
I don't support the month nor am I still in school so no.
Pirate700
Neither do I.
I also don't approve of organizations of any kind, based on skin color. . . like these for instance . . .
100 Black Men of America Inc.
African American Male Empowerment Summit
Airport Minority Advisory Council
Black Filmmakers Hall of Fame
Blacks In Government
Congressional Black Caucus Foundation Inc.
Harvard Black Law Students Association
Int'l. Black Buyers & Mfgs. Expo & Conference
Nat'l. Alliance of Black School Educators
Nat'l. Assn. of Black Accountants Inc.
Nat'l. Assn. of Black Scuba Divers
Nat'l. Assn. of Black Women Entrepreneurs Inc
Nat'l. Black Assn. for Speech-Lang. & Hearing
Nat'l. Black Child Development Institute
Nat'l. Black Nurses Association
Nat'l. Council of Negro Women Inc.
Nat'l. Society of Black Engineers
Professional Women of Color
The Organization of Black Airline Pilots Inc.
Black Entertainment Television
Black Miss America Pageant
Congress of National Black Churches
International Org. of Black Security Execs.
NAACP
Nat'l. Assn. of Black College Broadcasters
Nat'l. Assn. of Black Telecomm. Profs. Inc.
Nat'l. Black Police Association Inc
Nat'l. Black MBA Association
That's just a few - there are literally hundreds of these racist groups.
No, and I don't care. Its being shoved down my and other non black peoples throast in my predominatly black highschool. Its stupid and doesn't make any sense for a race to have their own month.Tetrarch9
What you need to do is organize your own racial history month so you and everyone who signs up can make the national news by getting expelled from school for the remainder of the year for participating in some covert attempt to voice hate against black people.
As sarcastic and implausible as that sounds i would not be a bit surprised to hear a story on the news about it happening in real life which is precisely why i do not support ANY specific time dedicated exclusively to ANY certain type of people.
[QUOTE="bigdcstile"]Please elaborate on how your so enlightened experience proves his point wrong. I wasn't taught history from a white eurocentric viewpoint! Key word was 'elaborate'. I've been to private schools where there were literally but a handful of blacks and to public schools in the inner city and it's always been taught from a white eurocentric point of view.[QUOTE="Hemmaroids"] I beg to differ since I attended an urban inner-city school :roll:Hemmaroids
I don't condone a month dedicated to race of any kind.[QUOTE="Pirate700"]
[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"] Interesting. Why don't you?Born_Lucky
Neither do I.
I also don't approve of organizations of any kind, based on skin color. . . like these for instance . . .
100 Black Men of America Inc.
African American Male Empowerment Summit
Airport Minority Advisory Council
Black Filmmakers Hall of Fame
Blacks In Government
Congressional Black Caucus Foundation Inc.
Harvard Black Law Students Association
Int'l. Black Buyers & Mfgs. Expo & Conference
Nat'l. Alliance of Black School Educators
Nat'l. Assn. of Black Accountants Inc.
Nat'l. Assn. of Black Scuba Divers
Nat'l. Assn. of Black Women Entrepreneurs Inc
Nat'l. Black Assn. for Speech-Lang. & Hearing
Nat'l. Black Child Development Institute
Nat'l. Black Nurses Association
Nat'l. Council of Negro Women Inc.
Nat'l. Society of Black Engineers
Professional Women of Color
The Organization of Black Airline Pilots Inc.
Black Entertainment Television
Black Miss America Pageant
Congress of National Black Churches
International Org. of Black Security Execs.
NAACP
Nat'l. Assn. of Black College Broadcasters
Nat'l. Assn. of Black Telecomm. Profs. Inc.
Nat'l. Black Police Association Inc
Nat'l. Black MBA Association
That's just a few - there are literally hundreds of these racist groups.
Yeah, because none of these were ever at once created to combat the seclusion that was there during a time when it was needed and, now, remains as a means to continue a sort of communal mindset, right?[QUOTE="Wopps"]We're not allowed to be proud of our race. Until there's a national decree that jails or strips away the rights of anyone that pronounces their pride in being white, hush with this false persecution.Why isn't there a white history month?
CannedWorms
Key word was 'elaborate'. I've been to private schools where there were literally but a handful of blacks and to public schools in the inner city and it's always been taught from a white eurocentric point of view. At the school I went to, they gave us the facts and additional background. We saw photos of lynchings, read witness accounts of victims who were attacked by the KKK, and even some older folks came in and told us face-to-face about what they went through. So it wasn't your arrogant eurocentric WASP PoV. So that covers, what? 30 years of history compared to the hundreds that are taught in school. Question: what was taught when it came to the Civil War? Antebellum era? Depression era? Modern era? It all centers around, as stated, a eurocentric point of view.[QUOTE="bigdcstile"][QUOTE="Hemmaroids"] I wasn't taught history from a white eurocentric viewpoint!Hemmaroids
So that covers, what? 30 years of history compared to the hundreds that are taught in school. Question: what was taught when it came to the Civil War? Antebellum era? Depression era? Modern era? It all centers around, as stated, a eurocentric point of view.bigdcstileMeaning what?
Meaning what? Meaning European influences on the West and the advancements and accomplishments of white America being taught as paramount. Not a slight, it just is what it is. If it included everything, then there wouldn't be a need for African American, Asian American and Native American studies to fill in the gaps.[QUOTE="bigdcstile"] So that covers, what? 30 years of history compared to the hundreds that are taught in school. Question: what was taught when it came to the Civil War? Antebellum era? Depression era? Modern era? It all centers around, as stated, a eurocentric point of view.BranKetra
[QUOTE="BranKetra"]Meaning what? Meaning European influences on the West and the advancements and accomplishments of white America being taught as paramount. Not a slight, it just is what it is. If it included everything, then there wouldn't be a need for African American, Asian American and Native American studies to fill in the gaps. Okay. I have a question. Is the approach any different from how Japan is educated? India? China?[QUOTE="bigdcstile"] So that covers, what? 30 years of history compared to the hundreds that are taught in school. Question: what was taught when it came to the Civil War? Antebellum era? Depression era? Modern era? It all centers around, as stated, a eurocentric point of view.bigdcstile
[QUOTE="bigdcstile"][QUOTE="BranKetra"] Meaning what?Meaning European influences on the West and the advancements and accomplishments of white America being taught as paramount. Not a slight, it just is what it is. If it included everything, then there wouldn't be a need for African American, Asian American and Native American studies to fill in the gaps. Okay. I have a question. Is the approach any different from how Japan is educated? India? China? Not really. The majority are the ones that write history which is why there's a disparity for how WWII is taught in Japan.BranKetra
This is probably the best solution, however it doesn't seem like a possibility when you have the Texas board of education basically deciding what goes into our nation's textbooks. It basically comes out as white protestant revisionist history.Black History Month seems a bit silly to me. Why set it aside for a particular month when you could just include noteworthy history pertaining to black people in normal curriculum? I think that would be a healthier approach for all involved, be they student, teacher, black, white, or whatever.
VigilanteArtist
[QUOTE="bigdcstile"][QUOTE="Hemmaroids"] At the school I went to, they gave us the facts and additional background. We saw photos of lynchings, read witness accounts of victims who were attacked by the KKK, and even some older folks came in and told us face-to-face about what they went through. So it wasn't your arrogant eurocentric WASP PoV.So that covers, what? 30 years of history compared to the hundreds that are taught in school. Question: what was taught when it came to the Civil War? Antebellum era? Depression era? Modern era? It all centers around, as stated, a eurocentric point of view. Trying to argue with everything I say? You weren't in my class, you didn't have my teacher. Who cares what the person's race is who wrote the damn book. There are multiple reviews before that history book is published. I say mostly the class was taught through the teacher on lectures and all that. Very little on the book. I don't get why you continue to argue with me over nothing. I gave you examples and of course we learned about the civil war and pre-civil war. What exactly are you trying to point out, really. You weren't in my class, you never had my teacher, so why are you mad? You see those question marks? Yeah, those indicate questions which require answers, or at least they would if one weren't flying off the handle like you are. No one here is mad save for yourself and learning extensively about one era in history from another viewpoint does not negate any statement I made. And what book are you talking about? If you mean the history books then, my point to Bran shows it kind of does matter. There's an African proverb; "Until the lion has his or her own storyteller, the hunter will always have the best part of the story" only solidifies this.Hemmaroids
this month is offensive to my white heritage. you don't see a white history month do you? just one big smack in the face to us born a different colour :IMr_PiemanWhites offending other whites by creating a 'black month': Priceless.
Okay. I have a question. Is the approach any different from how Japan is educated? India? China? Not really. The majority are the ones that write history which is why there's a disparity for how WWII is taught in Japan.So, are you saying that regardless of the place, "history is written by the victors?" I understand. However, that's not what I'm asking. I'm curious about other countries' "educational viewpoints." Like, the U.S. teaches from a Euro-centric viewpoint.[QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="bigdcstile"] Meaning European influences on the West and the advancements and accomplishments of white America being taught as paramount. Not a slight, it just is what it is. If it included everything, then there wouldn't be a need for African American, Asian American and Native American studies to fill in the gaps.bigdcstile
Not really. The majority are the ones that write history which is why there's a disparity for how WWII is taught in Japan.So, are you saying that regardless of the place, "history is written by the victors?" I understand. However, that's not what I'm asking. I'm curious about other countries' "educational viewpoints." Like, the U.S. teaches from a Euro-centric viewpoint.[QUOTE="bigdcstile"]
[QUOTE="BranKetra"] Okay. I have a question. Is the approach any different from how Japan is educated? India? China? BranKetra
[QUOTE="Mr_Pieman"]this month is offensive to my white heritage. you don't see a white history month do you? just one big smack in the face to us born a different colour :IbigdcstileWhites offending other whites by creating a 'black month': Priceless.
I learn about my history every month of the year..you?
Whites offending other whites by creating a 'black month': Priceless.[QUOTE="bigdcstile"][QUOTE="Mr_Pieman"]this month is offensive to my white heritage. you don't see a white history month do you? just one big smack in the face to us born a different colour :IKcube
I learn about my history every month of the year..you?
the learning of my history can not be relegated to a single month.[QUOTE="Kcube"][QUOTE="bigdcstile"] Whites offending other whites by creating a 'black month': Priceless.bigdcstile
I learn about my history every month of the year..you?
the learning of my history can not be relegated to a single month.Then we need this month why?
When I lived in Germany there was a distinct way they taught history when it came to WWII, same for Japan. They all teach from their own skew or biases.[QUOTE="BranKetra"]
So, are you saying that regardless of the place, "history is written by the victors?" I understand. However, that's not what I'm asking. I'm curious about other countries' "educational viewpoints." Like, the U.S. teaches from a Euro-centric viewpoint.
More importantly, what's your point?bigdcstile
About the curriculum, I have had teachers that taught specific parts of a subject, while leaving out others. They don't really explain why, either.
For example, some teachers would teach mostly out of the course textbook, eventually covering the entire book. Other teachers focused on specific parts.
It might be possible that other teachers did this, too.
[QUOTE="bigdcstile"]You see those question marks? Yeah, those indicate questions which require answers, or at least they would if one weren't flying off the handle like you are. No one here is mad save for yourself and learning extensively about one era in history from another viewpoint does not negate any statement I made. And what book are you talking about? If you mean the history books then, my point to Bran shows it kind of does matter. There's an African proverb; "Until the lion has his or her own storyteller, the hunter will always have the best part of the story" only solidifies this. I did mean history books, and frankly I can tell what is fact and opinion. I always look for the other side(s) of the story. Oh? So Rosa Parks was just some tired old lady that was too exhausted to give up her seat? Or Jackie Robinson was given his 'chance' because of the benevolence of the white power structure? Or was Lincoln's real goal to free the slaves? Was the Civil War really fought for the right to own slaves? You or I may know the true answers to these assertions, but history books across this nation leave a lot to be desired when it comes to truth. Up until high school, students believe the last two to be true. Even now, the first statement is taken without batting an eyelash due to the way the history books are written.[QUOTE="Hemmaroids"] Trying to argue with everything I say? You weren't in my class, you didn't have my teacher. Who cares what the person's race is who wrote the damn book. There are multiple reviews before that history book is published. I say mostly the class was taught through the teacher on lectures and all that. Very little on the book. I don't get why you continue to argue with me over nothing. I gave you examples and of course we learned about the civil war and pre-civil war. What exactly are you trying to point out, really. You weren't in my class, you never had my teacher, so why are you mad?Hemmaroids
the learning of my history can not be relegated to a single month.[QUOTE="bigdcstile"][QUOTE="Kcube"]
I learn about my history every month of the year..you?
Kcube
Then we need this month why?
Funny enough, I disagree with the need for this month. I feel it truly undermines any attempt to learn about how people of any race or demographic helped this country develop considering it focuses on the bare bones facts. I just love arguing about the misconceptions when it comes to this month, education, and other things pertaining to race. :PPlease Log In to post.
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