Is H0m0sexuality a choice?

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#1 UnrealSin_X
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I hear a lot of people say it is biological and some say men do not have a choice to be gay or not whereas women turn gay just out pure hatred and bitterness for men.

Any opinions on this?

The word was censored, so i used "0".
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#2 deactivated-5901ac91d8e33
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Of course it isn't biological. I like the colour blue...is that because of my biological structure? No...

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#3 hormagaunt
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i say its biological, but heavily influence by environment and growing up
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#4 kruesader
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It isn't a choice.
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#5 123625
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Is there any proof it is Biological? I think it's a choice, like any choice we make and we can't help. Like some people don't like anime and no matter how much they try they just can't get into it, even if its the best anime around. Though I realise comparing sexual attraction to fondness to objects is not the best way to say it.
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#6 _Tobli_
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I don't think it is a choice.
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#7 moptopskate
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I say its not a choice, but you arent born with it. The way your parents raise you has a huge influence on it. If your father doesnt give you enough attention, then you will look for another mans love and vice versa.
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#8 kruesader
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I say its not a choice, but you arent born with it. The way your parents raise you has a huge influence on it. If your father doesnt give you enough attention, then you will look for another mans love and vice versa. moptopskate

I hope you were using that as a vague example.

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#9 delol
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It depends It seems that some people born whit tendency to homosexuality in other cases they choose to be for personal or social reasons
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#10 RKfromDownunder
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Homesexuality is not a choice.

There are homosexuals within my family. I have discussed with them EXTENSIVELY on this matter, and with their partners and friends. It is not a choice. No one chooses.

The very concept of it being a choice was designed by those who want to imply that they 'chose' to live an 'imoral' life, i.e. religious fanatics with an agenda.

Also there is NOTHING to suggest that it is to do with the way you are brought up. Cultures vary and change, and in this era where homosexuality is looked down upon in much the same way by many as it has for millenia (they just can't stone them to death now, thank god for sanity).

The complete randomness of homosexuality has many theories behind it, and I'm not imformed enough on the biological level to assert that its biological, and neither is anyone here. No one has ANY right to state why people become homosexual.

Science does NOT GIVE A DAMN about your opinion, or your religion, or your upbringing. What most people know about homosexuality is from the media or word of mouth, not science. If anyone can show links to a site with a more scientific background regarding this issue I would LOVE to see it.

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#11 IgPond
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Of course it isn't a choice....

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#12 spidermonkey11
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The thing is with the biological not being a choice is the fact that it goes against nature (99%). To procreate you need a male and female.

I think at a very young age and the way your brought up makes the choice for you.

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#13 Whight_Knight
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It is not a choice.

As a heterosexual , could you imagine putting yourself in the situation where you would actually have intercourse with the same sex?

Answer that and then come back to me ...

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#14 spidermonkey11
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It is not a choice.

As a heterosexual , could you imagine putting yourself in the situation where you would actually have intercourse with the same sex?

Answer that and then come back to me ...

Whight_Knight

Yah, there are maybe %1 of guys I think I would have intercourse with. I do declare myself heterosexual but I think i could find myself in love with another guy. It just has to be in the %1 of men I am looking for. Haven't found one yet...

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Yah, there are maybe %1 of guys I think I would have intercourse with. I do declare myself heterosexual but I think i could find myself in love with another guy. It just has to be in the %1 of men I am looking for. Haven't found one yet...

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And its not likely you'll find that .1% or so is it ?

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I used to think it was an immoral choice, but then I starting to think that it can also be dangerous because in order to survive, we have to have babies.

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I don't think you're born with homosexuality, but with a tendency to be more likely to be a homosexual. We all are born with things we are more suceptable(sp?) or doing, some good and some bad. Some people are more likely to play a sport, and some are more likely to be bookworms. Some are more prone to being alchoholic, some are more prone to being edge.

It's too much to say that you are born with it, or that you aren't, because it isn't that simple. It has to do with nature and nurture. Not one or the other.

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Well I'm pretty sure scientists managed to turn fruit flies homosexual by altering their genes or something, I can't remember but I'm not sure if that applies to humans.
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I used to think it was an immoral choice, but then I starting to think that it can also be dangerous because in order to survive, we have to have babies. Wolf-Man2006

Words can not express how dumbfounded this quote made me.

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#20 ProudLarry
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I used to think it was an immoral choice, but then I starting to think that it can also be dangerous because in order to survive, we have to have babies.

Wolf-Man2006
yeah, because we're having so much trouble making babies, aren't we?
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[QUOTE="Wolf-Man2006"]

I used to think it was an immoral choice, but then I starting to think that it can also be dangerous because in order to survive, we have to have babies.

ProudLarry

yeah, because we're having so much trouble making babies, aren't we?

Haven't you seen the news recently about the world baby shortage and the baby riots in Africa?

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I would think so...you don't have to like men, but you do. If it was part of your "biological structure" it would be a disease, and I don't see people saying that about it. So obviously it's a choice.
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#23 chutup
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I would think so...you don't have to like men, but you do. If it was part of your "biological structure" it would be a disease, and I don't see people saying that about it. So obviously it's a choice.mohfrontline

No. Being black is part of your genetic structure but it isn't referred to as a disease. Hell, being able to roll your tongue is part of your genetic structure.

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Wait! There are still people who think it is a choice? wth...
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I hear a lot of people say it is biological and some say men do not have a choice to be gay or not whereas women turn gay just out pure hatred and bitterness for men.

Any opinions on this?

The word was censored, so i used "0".UnrealSin_X

Only if you believe heterosexuality is a choice...

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[QUOTE="mohfrontline"]I would think so...you don't have to like men, but you do. If it was part of your "biological structure" it would be a disease, and I don't see people saying that about it. So obviously it's a choice.chutup

No. Being black is part of your genetic structure but it isn't referred to as a disease. Hell, being able to roll your tongue is part of your genetic structure.

exactly

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Haven't you seen the news recently about the world baby shortage and the baby riots in Africa?chutup

The last time i checked. There were more than 6,5 billion people on this planet, and rising.

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If it is, it's an unconscious choice. . . .and one that takes a lot of time to develop. There is no gay gene. . . .
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WHY THE EFF IS "HOMOSEXUALITY" A CENSORED WORD?!

Yeah, in capslock. I'm that upset.

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WHY THE EFF IS "HOMOSEXUALITY" A CENSORED WORD?!

Yeah, in capslock. I'm that upset.

Scarebaby

It obviously isn't, since you just posted it.:|

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I have a gay friend and form what I've seen it isn't a choice. Think about how many homosexuals remain "in the closet". They don't want to be honest about their personal feelings because they are afraid of what friends/family/society might think of them. Why would anyone choose that?
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#32 Scarebaby
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[QUOTE="Scarebaby"]

WHY THE EFF IS "HOMOSEXUALITY" A CENSORED WORD?!

Yeah, in capslock. I'm that upset.

Dracargen

It obviously isn't, since you just posted it.:|

Bwaah! XD Owned by the confused topic creator! I'm ashamed.

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Homosexuality is censored for THREAD TITLES. Not general useage.
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#34 Scarebaby
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Homosexuality is censored for THREAD TITLES. Not general useage.Jandurin

Oh, so in the public eye it's a bad word, but if you lure unsuspecting members to your pseudo-named thread, it's alright to use it?

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Homosexuality is censored for THREAD TITLES. Not general useage.Scarebaby

Oh, so in the public eye it's a bad word, but if you lure unsuspecting members to your pseudo-named thread, it's alright to use it?

I'm sure that's exactly what they were thinking when they set the rules for the censoring. :lol:

also, lol at "unsuspecting members"

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#36 therealcoolin
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its a disease

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I have a gay friend and form what I've seen it isn't a choice. Think about how many homosexuals remain "in the closet". They don't want to be honest about their personal feelings because they are afraid of what friends/family/society might think of them. Why would anyone choose that?allnamestaken

The same could be said for religion. . . .in some areas of the world, choosing a certain religion over another can get you killed. Who would choose that?

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Homosexuality is censored for THREAD TITLES. Not general useage.Scarebaby

Oh, so in the public eye it's a bad word, but if you lure unsuspecting members to your pseudo-named thread, it's alright to use it?

I'm sure the only logical explanation for the censoring of "homosexuality" in thread titles is because the owners of GameSpot are homophobic and don't like to see the word spelled correctly.:|

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Scarebaby"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Homosexuality is censored for THREAD TITLES. Not general useage.Scarebaby

Oh, so in the public eye it's a bad word, but if you lure unsuspecting members to your pseudo-named thread, it's alright to use it?

I'm sure that's exactly what they were thinking when they set the rules for the censoring. :lol:

also, lol at "unsuspecting members"

Is it the same with 'heterosexuality'? If not, I'm starting a riot.

:roll:

It's not the same with "heterosexuality." Before you start that riot, though, perhaps you should go to Ask the Mods.

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If it was of any significance, I'd raise hell about this. I mean, I think heterosexuality is totally gross but I don't run around whining about that.
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It's not the same with "heterosexuality." Before you start that riot, though, perhaps you should go to Ask the Mods.Dracargen
Actually, I think it would be a "site enhancement" question. The Mods have NO input on censoring and the like.
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[QUOTE="allnamestaken"]I have a gay friend and form what I've seen it isn't a choice. Think about how many homosexuals remain "in the closet". They don't want to be honest about their personal feelings because they are afraid of what friends/family/society might think of them. Why would anyone choose that?Dracargen

The same could be said for religion. . . .in some areas of the world, choosing a certain religion over another can get you killed. Who would choose that?

I don't see your point?

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If it was of any significance, I'd raise hell about this. I mean, I think heterosexuality is totally gross but I don't run around whining about that.Scarebaby
lolz gross.

I guess the whole birthing part is gross.

Can't be grosser than horse birthing, though.

That was wild. And it was the mother's first birth, so she was FREAKING OUT. I thought she was gonna break her stall.

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#45 joeytentz
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All evidence points to no.

Prefering chocolate ice cream over vanilla is not a choice, it is just how ones taste buds are wired.

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#46 SolidSnake35
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They could choose not to be, so perhaps it is a choice. I think it's probably a bit of both though.
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#47 Scarebaby
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:roll:

It's not the same with "heterosexuality." Before you start that riot, though, perhaps you should go to Ask the Mods.

Dracargen

Yeah, roll your eyes at the rabid lesbian, real smoothe.

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[QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="allnamestaken"]I have a gay friend and form what I've seen it isn't a choice. Think about how many homosexuals remain "in the closet". They don't want to be honest about their personal feelings because they are afraid of what friends/family/society might think of them. Why would anyone choose that?allnamestaken

The same could be said for religion. . . .in some areas of the world, choosing a certain religion over another can get you killed. Who would choose that?

I don't see your point?

He means that some people stay "in the closet" about their religion based on the regional ideas and beleifs. Say I become muslim and I live in a heavily catholic town, I would feel more inclined to choose to not tell anyone about it as I don't want to be criticised or frowned upon. At least that's what I think he meant.

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[QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="allnamestaken"]I have a gay friend and form what I've seen it isn't a choice. Think about how many homosexuals remain "in the closet". They don't want to be honest about their personal feelings because they are afraid of what friends/family/society might think of them. Why would anyone choose that?allnamestaken

The same could be said for religion. . . .in some areas of the world, choosing a certain religion over another can get you killed. Who would choose that?

I don't see your point?

You're saying that it must not be a choice because it usually has negative consequences. Does that mean religion is genetic in the cases of people who choose a religion and get negative consequences (sometimes death) for it?

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It's a combination of nature and nurture. You don't really choose it per se but it comes about due to life experiences at an early age and the way you are socialised. It can't possibly be solely genetic because if it were then homoseuxality would be passed on in families. I hope it's evident to people that this isn't the case. I tend to say it has more to do with the environment than genetics but in either case I don't think I'd feel comfortable saying people choose to be homosexual. Although, even if they did then nobody can condemn them for it.