First Gay NFL player drafted by the Rams

I dunno. Urinals aren't useful for women.

Considering the insane stuff he's said about gays before. I doubt he was joking.

@lostrib: you messaged thegerg about my misspelling of "you're" further fuelling his contempt for me, you're basically up his arse.

Also because the thegerg started being unreasonable and belittling towards me, I informed him any more of his post to me would be answered with a blank post back to him.

You messaged me saying "very mature" when I sent him a blank post. So you climbed even further up his arse.

It's ok I know how it is it's a case of, if you can't beat him join him kinda thing, no one on this site seems to be able to put him in his place so if you crawl up his arse you will be safe, I get it

@thegerg:

Gerg, are you turning people gay so that they can climb up your ass? Shame on you...

@lostrib: wow I messaged you and thegerg comes running to defend you, you are so lucky to have a man of thegergs caliber at your side.

@thegerg: I see. Quite a problematic situation indeed. I'll be sure to go on Tweeter to voice my displeasure...

@korvus: your in the Gerg fan club as well, Jeese I don't stand a chance do I, I just love having everything I say being taken out of context by thegerg and his little followers, makes me feel alive.

@ariabed: Haha, nah. I think @thegerg can be an annoying jerk sometimes (like most of us here) and gets caught up in the details, but I do have to admit that if you can't get rid of him it's normally your own shortcomings, which makes me respect his...er...tenacity.

He's very literal on his responses, if you ask him if he has an opinion on a specific subject he'll just say "yes", but that's who he is, so next time I take the extra time formulating my question as "What is your opinion about this?". Made me rethink some of my ways of communicating XD

I've had my "problems" with him, but in the end if I really can't answer him, then it's hardly his fault that I didn't think my argument through. He's called me on my bullshit more than once and I hated him not for proving he was right, but for proving that I was talking out of my ass and unprepared to defend my views.

I've called him out a few times as well; guess that's how it goes. No hard feelings from me, and I don't think he's the kind of guy to get his feelings hurt over internet forums.

@GazaAli: "Yes this is very superficial and frankly moronic. You either have a view on homosexuality or you don't, period. Just because you're not sexually attracted to men doesn't mean you get to cherrypick and to decide on what's gross and what is not."

Really? So we are not aloud to have personal preferences? That sucks

...I didn't send anyone messages.

Of course you're allowed to have personal preferences, but in this instance it would suggest that your personal preferences are irrational and partial and that they suck all things considered.

The fad is how heavily politicized it is nowadays not the concept itself. LGBT as a social issue is not the first, it had feminism and a number of other social issues as its antecedents. It will eventually be pushed to the back of the social agenda and concede its current prominence to some other social issue and it will most likely be inflated too. I personally am still trying to figure out what is providing the impetus and the drive for these crusades.

You're right it will end, when gays get equal rights. same has how black civil rights isn't as big of a deal as it was in the 60's.

this might be the least intelligent thing I've read all year. I've got a 155 IQ and 2 degrees, one with a degree in psychology where we learned the major tests for intelligence, I guarantee you have not even a fraction of knowledge on the subject matter that I do. Generally people that get easily offended are not very smart because they resort to emotional responses.

@toast_burner: I see. I stand corrected.

Probably because we as a society are starting to push for more equal rights while shrugging off the archaic ways of the past. That's like saying pushing for equals rights between ethnic backgrounds was just a fad.

What you're saying is really really dumb. Its still a wonder how you keep posting the same drivel in every thread on topics like these.

@korvus: in a way you are right, but thegerg is quite unfair, and when your on the verge of besting him, or even just for having a opinion thats different to his, that's when he goes into gerg mode and starts nitpicking and belittling and taking things out of context, the sensible adult discussion turns into a mud slinging match, that's all he's good at, mud slinging and taking things way out of context. If he was that clever he wouldn't have to resort to such tactics to win his arguments.

As a Master of Philosophy, I suggest you side with my arguments then. I have been trained in art of logic and I'm not afraid to unleash this power on psychologists and the gay agenda.

You know im straight, but i dont ever remember sitting down and making a conscious decision to be straight. I dont know if being straight is in my genes, or being gay is in someone elses. But i assume if i never sat down and chose to be straight then its likely nobody sat down and chose to be gay. More power to michael sam.

@ariabed: I think one of the problems between you guys is semantics, and I'm of the opinion that the use of the word "normal" doesn't work in this context. One person uses "normal" when they mean "natural", others use "normal" when they mean "common/usual". Then why not make it easy for everyone and use the words common and natural? Because yes, I do think homosexuality is natural, but is it common (at least commonly displayed in public)?

I haven't seen many gay display of affection in Portugal, but not many people spoke (openly) against gays, so natural but not common (You can argue it's not common because people feel judged, I wouldn't know one way or another). Here in the Netherlands I see it a lot; even a few days ago two 8yo boys holding hands and kissing each other on the lips and nobody even looked at them twice, just giggled in a "it's so cute" kind of way, like they would if it had been a boy and a girl. So here I'd say natural and common. I think explaining it like this is a lot clearer than if I had used the word "normal".

As for the anomalies question I actually think it's a good one if you translate it from Gergian to English. What I think he was trying to ask was "You don't want homosexuality being show on tv because you see it as an anomaly, but you're ok with other anomalies being displayed. Why is this one different?". I think from the point where insults start being flung back and forth the conversation loses objectivity, people start being less clear on what they're asking and everything goes to hell...

@korvus: yeah I said being gay is an anomaly but that doesn't mean I'm saying all anomalies are bad and should be shielded from children, why take it to that extreme, that's like if I said I don't like choc milkshake they're shit, that doesn't mean I'm saying all milkshakes are shit, just the chocolate ones. He takes things so far out of context it's unbelievable.

That's weird, that is not the image I have of you in my mind. I would have never guessed that you have an IQ in the first place, let alone two degrees too. Frankly you come off to me as a 17 years old teenager who is attempting to get his head out of his ass by making wild claims of intelligence.

That image is much more substantiated and plausible than the one you proposed so I'm inclined to retain it until proven otherwise.

@ariabed: I understand what you mean, but why is this anomaly bad and not just different, like the others gerg mentioned? I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you, I'm just curious about your reasoning. Conjoined twins are an anomaly and I can give you several reasons why that's a bad thing, so I'm wondering what is bad about gay people.

You as a society have some odd ranking of priorities and an even odder way of abolishing those "archaic" ways of the past.

You don't have to feel butthurt for me posting drivel in such topics as you can always ignore it.

@thegerg:

So if I say homosexuality should be kept away from young children that's what I mean, homosexuality.

If in a later sentence I say homosexuality is an anomaly IMO, I'm not saying all anomalies are a bad example for kids.

Now I know what anomaly means it's something unusual peculiar odd a rarity, and although I know there are a lot of gays out there I rarely come across any and I have never seen two men kissing in public.

So that's why I said in my opinion they are an anomaly.

@thegerg: yeah your correct but the anomaly statement wasn't meant to be part of my argument, it was just a stand alone statement about how I view of homosexuality. I guess it came across wrong, but still it doesn't mean I tar all anomalies with the same brush.

@korvus: I actually never said being gay was bad, I think I might have said boys kissing boys is wrong in a previous post which I guess is the same as bad, but I just don't agree with it and I don't like seeing two males kissing it just doesn't look right.

I don't hate gay people, I wouldn't want to see harm or hardship come to them for the way they live their lives, I've worked with one or two gay males in my time and I got on with them just fine, I just think that young children should be shielded from things like gays kissing each other that's all.

@ariabed: Fair enough. I think you've explained your views as well as you were able. I won't bug you any longer ^_^

And hey, stop asking mods to lock your threads; me and a few other enjoy them and then we can't participate anymore =)

@thegerg: yeah I do, I have to be more careful of how I word my statements and be mindful of the structure of my arguments. I guess i was wrong. I feel kinda silly now for going off on one earlier.

@korvus: ok thanks :)

This is just wrong, even for a boy and a girl. I don't know how things are in the Netherlands, but kids over here at that age don't walk around holding hands and definitely not kissing. It's more like "boy chases girl at recess" as a means for him "liking" her. If I ever have a daughter or a son, I'll make sure they don't engage in physical contact like this at this age. That's acceptable for a teenager, but not a young child.

because stupid people make assumptions that are untrue, really I do have 2 degrees and you're a moron. First an honors degree in psychology the second in geophysics. Everything you've said so far has been wrong, seriously stop typing and think for a second before posting because you just seem more and more stupid with every post.

That's rich coming from a guy who lives in the Middle East..

0/10, try again. The Middle East has nothing to do with anything we're talking about and even if you were to ask me about the Middle East I would be brutally honest and I think I made that very clear on numerous occasions.

Sure it does, your being directly critical in saying how "silly" and "odd" our priorities are when you live in the world that beat and imprison people for being gay.. This sounds AWFULLY like when North Korea posted their "report" on US human rights violations.

Wow, a lot of people in here need to just take a nice popper and relax their anuses.

I see what you did there.

how is it even possible to be the 1st gay nfl player and show up in 2014?

odds are there have been hundreds over the years.

the 1st gay nfl player was most likely present at the 1st nfl game.

And just how do you know that he is the first gay the rams ever drafted?

My guess would be members of his team. I bet a number of them have a serious issue with showering around him or changing around him. Just saying.