Do you think humans will ever visit a planet outside of our solar system?

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] i'm trapped? lol, its you who is trapped under your own desires, no matter what we are all slaves to something in this world, so you telling me that im trapped in something is just.. LoL.

GrayF0X786

When reality shows the book to be wrong you have to deny reality.

Creationism is wrong. You keep saying we were created. Humans are a species of ape, we are here because of evolution.

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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

When reality shows the book to be wrong you have to deny reality.

tenaka2

Creationism is wrong. You keep saying we were created. Humans are a species of ape, we are here because of evolution.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] What in the Qu'ran is wrong?

GrayF0X786

Creationism is wrong. You keep saying we were created. Humans are a species of ape, we are here because of evolution.

We didn't come from apes, both humans and the other apes species came from an ape like ancestor. And yes, evolution is an established fact.

[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

When reality shows the book to be wrong you have to deny reality.

SNIPER4321

[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Creationism is wrong. You keep saying we were created. Humans are a species of ape, we are here because of evolution.

tenaka2

We didn't come from apes, both humans and the other apes species came from an ape like ancestor. And yes, evolution is an established fact.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]Creationism is wrong. You keep saying we were created. Humans are a species of ape, we are here because of evolution. SNIPER4321

[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

When reality shows the book to be wrong you have to deny reality.

tenaka2

Creationism is wrong. You keep saying we were created. Humans are a species of ape, we are here because of evolution.

Anyway no I don't think humans will visit another solar system.

On a side note Muslims do beleive in a certain type of evolution, for example the first Humans were much taller then we are today, we are becoming shorter over time, but to say we were once fvcking monkeys is just pathetic.

On a side note Muslims do beleive in a certain type of evolution, for example the first Humans were much taller then we are today, we are becoming shorter over time, but to say we were once fvcking monkeys is just pathetic.

GrayF0X786

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]Creationism is wrong. You keep saying we were created. Humans are a species of ape, we are here because of evolution. SNIPER4321

You seem to be confusing the fact of evolution and the theory of evolution.

Evolution is a fact is has been witnessed and the experiments are repeatable. 

THe theory of evolution is the best explanation as to how this occurs.

[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

On a side note Muslims do beleive in a certain type of evolution, for example the first Humans were much taller then we are today, we are becoming shorter over time, but to say we were once fvcking monkeys is just pathetic.

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]Creationism is wrong. You keep saying we were created. Humans are a species of ape, we are here because of evolution. tenaka2

You seem to be confusing the fact of evolution and the theory of evolution.

Evolution is a fact is has been witnessed and the experiments are repeatable. 

THe theory of evolution is the best explanation as to how this occurs.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] What in the Qu'ran is wrong?

LJS9502_basic

Creationism is wrong. You keep saying we were created. Humans are a species of ape, we are here because of evolution.

Anyway no I don't think humans will visit another solar system.

I agree with you, but bevis and butthead think we were just magic'kd up.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

On a side note Muslims do beleive in a certain type of evolution, for example the first Humans were much taller then we are today, we are becoming shorter over time, but to say we were once fvcking monkeys is just pathetic.

GrayF0X786

[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]Creationism is wrong. You keep saying we were created. Humans are a species of ape, we are here because of evolution. tenaka2

You seem to be confusing the fact of evolution and the theory of evolution.

Evolution is a fact is has been witnessed and the experiments are repeatable.

THe theory of evolution is the best explanation as to how this occurs.

Nope, I think humans will be extinct before that.

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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Creationism is wrong. You keep saying we were created. Humans are a species of ape, we are here because of evolution.

tenaka2

Anyway no I don't think humans will visit another solar system.

I agree with you, but bevis and butthead think we were just magic'kd up.

On a side note Muslims do beleive in a certain type of evolution, for example the first Humans were much taller then we are today, we are becoming shorter over time, but to say we were once fvcking monkeys is just pathetic.

GrayF0X786

No one says we were once monkies.

We evolved, you can either accept this fact or not, it doesn't change the truth.

You can chose to believe that your magic sky daddy waved a wand and we all appeared if you so wish, however don't be surprised when people laugh at you.

[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

On a side note Muslims do beleive in a certain type of evolution, for example the first Humans were much taller then we are today, we are becoming shorter over time, but to say we were once fvcking monkeys is just pathetic.

tenaka2

No one says we were once monkies.

We evolved, you can either accept this fact or not, it doesn't change the truth.

You can chose to believe that your magic sky daddy waved a wand and we all appeared if you so wish, however don't be surprised when people laugh at you.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

On a side note Muslims do beleive in a certain type of evolution, for example the first Humans were much taller then we are today, we are becoming shorter over time, but to say we were once fvcking monkeys is just pathetic.

LJS9502_basic

No one says we were once monkies.

We evolved, you can either accept this fact or not, it doesn't change the truth.

You can chose to believe that your magic sky daddy waved a wand and we all appeared if you so wish, however don't be surprised when people laugh at you.

I already said I am happy with a creator creating evolution, I agree with you, its also possible that a god started the big bang, but that isn't what we are talking aboiut here and all you are doing is muddying the waters.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

No one says we were once monkies.

We evolved, you can either accept this fact or not, it doesn't change the truth.

 

You can chose to believe that your magic sky daddy waved a wand and we all appeared if you so wish, however don't be surprised when people laugh at you.

tenaka2

I already said I am happy with a creator creating religion, I agree with you, its also possible that a god started the big bang, but that isn't what we are talking aboiut here and all you are doing is muddying the waters.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Why is it that you can't understand how one can believe in evolution and a creator? Is your thought processes so limited? Because the condescending way you put it.....seems to indicate such.LJS9502_basic

I already said I am happy with a creator creating religion, I agree with you, its also possible that a god started the big bang, but that isn't what we are talking aboiut here and all you are doing is muddying the waters.

Grey and sniper deny evolution, I support it thats is the discussion.

Your on the fence theolgy is not relevant to this simple point.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

I already said I am happy with a creator creating religion, I agree with you, its also possible that a god started the big bang, but that isn't what we are talking aboiut here and all you are doing is muddying the waters.

tenaka2

Grey and sniper deny evolution, I support it thats is the discussion.

Your on the fence theolgy is not relevant to this simple point.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I'm not muddying anything. A creator's hand can be behind evolution. I never mentioned the big bang. Seems you're muddying the waters mate.....LJS9502_basic

Grey and sniper deny evolution, I support it thats is the discussion.

Your on the fence theolgy is not relevant to this simple point.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I'm not muddying anything. A creator's hand can be behind evolution. I never mentioned the big bang. Seems you're muddying the waters mate.....LJS9502_basic

Grey and sniper deny evolution, I support it thats is the discussion.

Your on the fence theolgy is not relevant to this simple point.

I know catholics believe in evolution, they changed that piece of dogma recently. Its good to see the church move with the times, however it isn't relevant to the conversation at hand.

Believing in 'some' evolution is known as cherry picking.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Grey and sniper deny evolution, I support it thats is the discussion.

Your on the fence theolgy is not relevant to this simple point.

tenaka2

I know catholics believe in evolution, they changed that piece of dogma recently. Its good to see the church move with the times, however it isn't relevant to the conversation at hand.

Believing in 'some' evolution is known as cherry picking.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Grey and sniper deny evolution, I support it thats is the discussion.

Your on the fence theolgy is not relevant to this simple point.

tenaka2

I know catholics believe in evolution, they changed that piece of dogma recently. Its good to see the church move with the times, however it isn't relevant to the conversation at hand.

Believing in 'some' evolution is known as cherry picking.

Probably, but it will be a one way ticket unless they find some other way of propulsion.

Tenaka i am still waiting for you to show me how you think the Qu'ran is wrong, and please stop throwing theories at me, its getting ridiculous

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Grey said Muslims do believe in some evolution....and I can't believe you are f*cking make me defend his points.:x On the fence theology? I'm Catholic. We believe in evolution. There is nothing on the fence about it. Get out of the dark ages man and do some current reading.LJS9502_basic

I know catholics believe in evolution, they changed that piece of dogma recently. Its good to see the church move with the times, however it isn't relevant to the conversation at hand.

Believing in 'some' evolution is known as cherry picking.

Some of the abrahaic sects are liteeral creationists who believe god created the earth 6000 years ago. Therefore your statment is false as science does indeed contradict this way of thinking.

The theory of evolution stand stong even without the fossle record, but I am not sure if that is what you are implying with your second bit.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

I know catholics believe in evolution, they changed that piece of dogma recently. Its good to see the church move with the times, however it isn't relevant to the conversation at hand.

Believing in 'some' evolution is known as cherry picking.

tenaka2

Some of the abrahaic sects are liteeral creationists who believe god created the earth 6000 years ago. Therefore your statment is false as science does indeed contradict this way of thinking.

The theory of evolution stand stong even without the fossle record, but I am not sure if that is what you are implying with your second bit.

Tenaka i am still waiting for you to show me how you think the Qu'ran is wrong, and please stop throwing theories at me, its getting ridiculous

GrayF0X786

Evolution is a fact, there is no such thing as micro-evolution its a word made up by religious people. Perhaps these pictures will help. See how the human skull evolved of time through different species?

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] The church was never anti evolution.....and it doesn't change the creation story. Try as atheists do....science does NOT contradict the Abrahamic religions. Nonetheless...without all the 'links" in evolution...could you not be accused of cherry picking?GrayF0X786

Some of the abrahaic sects are liteeral creationists who believe god created the earth 6000 years ago. Therefore your statment is false as science does indeed contradict this way of thinking.

The theory of evolution stand stong even without the fossle record, but I am not sure if that is what you are implying with your second bit.

I wasn't taking about islam, if I were I would have said 'Muslims' or 'Islam'

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

I know catholics believe in evolution, they changed that piece of dogma recently. Its good to see the church move with the times, however it isn't relevant to the conversation at hand.

Believing in 'some' evolution is known as cherry picking.

tenaka2

Some of the abrahaic sects are liteeral creationists who believe god created the earth 6000 years ago. Therefore your statment is false as science does indeed contradict this way of thinking.

The theory of evolution stand stong even without the fossle record, but I am not sure if that is what you are implying with your second bit.

[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Some of the abrahaic sects are liteeral creationists who believe god created the earth 6000 years ago. Therefore your statment is false as science does indeed contradict this way of thinking.

The theory of evolution stand stong even without the fossle record, but I am not sure if that is what you are implying with your second bit.

tenaka2

I wasn't taking about islam, if I were I would have said 'Muslims' or 'Islam'

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] The church was never anti evolution.....and it doesn't change the creation story. Try as atheists do....science does NOT contradict the Abrahamic religions. Nonetheless...without all the 'links" in evolution...could you not be accused of cherry picking?LJS9502_basic

Some of the abrahaic sects are liteeral creationists who believe god created the earth 6000 years ago. Therefore your statment is false as science does indeed contradict this way of thinking.

The theory of evolution stand stong even without the fossle record, but I am not sure if that is what you are implying with your second bit.

Claiming that god created the universe in 6 days doesn't contradict science? Claiming that all of humanity came about via Adam and Eve doesn't contradict science.

Talking snakes? Water changing into wine? Hands on healing?

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[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]Oh for fvcks sake, Muslims do not beleive the earth was created 6000 years ago, you talk sh*t after sh*t, must be something you ate.

GrayF0X786

I wasn't taking about islam, if I were I would have said 'Muslims' or 'Islam'

I will quote myself and make it bold for you, if you look closely you can see the word 'Some' 

'Some of the abrahaic sects are'

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Some of the abrahaic sects are liteeral creationists who believe god created the earth 6000 years ago. Therefore your statment is false as science does indeed contradict this way of thinking.

The theory of evolution stand stong even without the fossle record, but I am not sure if that is what you are implying with your second bit.

tenaka2

Claiming that god created the universe in 6 days doesn't contradict science? Claiming that all of humanity came about via Adam and Eve doesn't contradict science.

Talking snakes? Water changing into wine? Hands on healing?

like Ali radiyallahu anhu said:



"People are asleep; when they die, they awaken."

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Some of the abrahaic sects are liteeral creationists who believe god created the earth 6000 years ago. Therefore your statment is false as science does indeed contradict this way of thinking.

The theory of evolution stand stong even without the fossle record, but I am not sure if that is what you are implying with your second bit.

tenaka2

Claiming that god created the universe in 6 days doesn't contradict science? Claiming that all of humanity came about via Adam and Eve doesn't contradict science.

Talking snakes? Water changing into wine? Hands on healing?

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Do you always read on such a shallow level? I'm not talking about what specific individuals believe but what is in Scripture. And in science. They do NOT contradict.GrayF0X786

Claiming that god created the universe in 6 days doesn't contradict science? Claiming that all of humanity came about via Adam and Eve doesn't contradict science.

Talking snakes? Water changing into wine? Hands on healing?

like Ali radiyallahu anhu said:



"People are asleep; when they die, they awaken."

Just because I decide what to believe based on the evidence around me  does not make me an emoty shell. I would rather make my own mind up about things rather then be like you.

Your life is based on the writtings in an old book, at least that frees you up from having to make up your own mind about things. I find that pretty lazy though.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Do you always read on such a shallow level? I'm not talking about what specific individuals believe but what is in Scripture. And in science. They do NOT contradict.LJS9502_basic

Claiming that god created the universe in 6 days doesn't contradict science? Claiming that all of humanity came about via Adam and Eve doesn't contradict science.

Talking snakes? Water changing into wine? Hands on healing?

Don't take offence to this, but the Qu'ran corrects that passage from the bible, by saying

"And indeed We created the heavens and the earth and all between them in six days and nothing of fatigue touched Us"

(Qur'an50:38)

The creator does not get tired or anything like that, it is a human aspect which people applied to God.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Do you always read on such a shallow level? I'm not talking about what specific individuals believe but what is in Scripture. And in science. They do NOT contradict.LJS9502_basic

Claiming that god created the universe in 6 days doesn't contradict science? Claiming that all of humanity came about via Adam and Eve doesn't contradict science.

Talking snakes? Water changing into wine? Hands on healing?

Minor?

46% of Americans think god created man sometime over the last 10,000 years LJ. 150 million does not seem like a small number to me.

[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Claiming that god created the universe in 6 days doesn't contradict science? Claiming that all of humanity came about via Adam and Eve doesn't contradict science.

Talking snakes? Water changing into wine? Hands on healing?

tenaka2

like Ali radiyallahu anhu said:



"People are asleep; when they die, they awaken."

Just because I decide what to believe based on the evidence around me does not make me an emoty shell. I would rather make my own mind up about things rather then be like you.

Your life is based on the writtings in an old book, at least that frees you up from having to make up your own mind about things. I find that pretty lazy though.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] You are a sad empty fvcking shell, beleiving that we are nothing but a small drop of sperm who will eventually hit the ground and become worm buffet, and that is it, a bleak and sad view of the greatest gift ever which is life, i wonder how old you are since you were afraid to mention it in another thread, everyone has their appointed time, you just can't seem to justify yours,

like Ali radiyallahu anhu said:



"People are asleep; when they die, they awaken."

GrayF0X786

Just because I decide what to believe based on the evidence around me does not make me an emoty shell. I would rather make my own mind up about things rather then be like you.

Your life is based on the writtings in an old book, at least that frees you up from having to make up your own mind about things. I find that pretty lazy though.

No one? Ron Hubbard created a religion in the 1950s thats has become pretty popular already. It's obviously not that difficult to start a cult.