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#1 harashawn
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Some members of Canada's senate are trying to get spanking your child bannned. The current law allows parents to use necessary disciplinary force, but this would not allow parents touse any force at all.
So this got me thinking, is it okay to spank your child when they misbehave? The way I see it, there's nothing wrong with it as long as the parent doesn't hit too hard. Too many parents these days are just too easy on their kids. I've seen kids screaming in public while the parent just stands there and watches them. :| The best way to make a child behave is to make them fear misbehaving, right? Sending your kid to their room is not a punishment, they'll justfind something to do there.

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#2 Chris_Williams
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personally i believe their are other methods then spanking your child, but thats just me and i have no kids so i have no idea what i'm talking about, but for now, i'm just saying i wouldn't spank my kids but i don't think they should ban it though

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#3 Theokhoth
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But if they ban spanking, what'll my daddy do to me when I've been a bad boy? :(
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#4 Mr_Anderson1817
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I got spanked as a kid, but if I have kids I'm not going to spank them.

Kids should learn "discipline" by respecting you, not being afraid of you.

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#5 jimmyjammer69
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But if they ban spanking, what'll my daddy do to me when I've been a bad boy? :(Theokhoth
Give you a lifelong phobia of the US border.
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#6 rragnaar
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At first I thought this was about our new policy of publicly spanking users before we ban them, and I was wondering how the news leaked out. S***! I've said too much.
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#7 SolidSnake35
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I endorse public spankings only.
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#8 Zyrokin
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At first I thought this was about our new policy of publicly spanking users before we ban them, and I was wondering how the news leaked out. S***! I've said too much.rragnaar

Sounds like a reward rather than a punishment. Just saying.

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#9 DaBlastaMasta
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I don't think any parent should discipline their child through physical punishment.

The only thing that does is make the kid behave out of fear.

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But if they ban spanking, what'll my daddy do to me when I've been a bad boy? :(Theokhoth

Dude, that's hilarious! :lol:

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#11 Oleg_Huzwog
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I got spanked as a kid, but if I have kids I'm not going to spank them.

Kids should learn "discipline" by respecting you, not being afraid of you.

Mr_Anderson1817

Is "respect" a concept that a 4 year old can even comprehend?

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#12 ice144
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I was spanked as a kid, and most definitely deserved it. I'll definitely be continuing that tradition when i get kids.
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#13 surrealnumber5
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so now men can only spank their on the side girls?
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#14 Mr_Anderson1817
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[QUOTE="Mr_Anderson1817"]

I got spanked as a kid, but if I have kids I'm not going to spank them.

Kids should learn "discipline" by respecting you, not being afraid of you.

Oleg_Huzwog

Is "respect" a concept that a 4 year old can even comprehend?

So if they can't even comprehend what good behavior is, you're still gonna slap 'em around?

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#15 Setsa
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People who think spanking automatically mean abuse are idiotic. Spanking is a much more feasible means of punishment for children not only because they can't comprehend all the underlying factors behind the reason why they should and shouldn't do certain thing, but also because yelling and screaming at a child in lieu can scar them much more in the long run.
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#16 CHOASXIII
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I was spanked as a kid as a means of discipline and I plan to do the same when I have kids.

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#17 SolidSnake35
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

[QUOTE="Mr_Anderson1817"]

I got spanked as a kid, but if I have kids I'm not going to spank them.

Kids should learn "discipline" by respecting you, not being afraid of you.

Mr_Anderson1817

Is "respect" a concept that a 4 year old can even comprehend?

So if they can't even comprehend what good behavior is, you're still gonna slap 'em around?

I'd get my wife to do it.
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#18 ghoklebutter
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Although I hate the idea of corporal punishment, I do think that spanking is necessary in some cases.

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#19 Aku101
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No 4 year old kid knows what is good behavior and what is bad. The simple fact is that kids do not know what the hell they are doing and the repercussions that come with it, they do things for self-interest and follow commands due to incentives. Young kids are very much like dogs, you have to train them through physical discipline and a reward system.

ROFL at kids obeying you due to respect rather than fear. What the hell do kids know about respect :lol:. They only respond to primal emotions such as fear, hunger and pleasure.

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#20 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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Only bad parents need to spank their child.

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#21 jun_aka_pekto
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I spanked my kid exactly once. Since then the mere threat of spanking was enough to keep her in line until she can think things on her own. She also learned early on that she have to earn her stuff and I don't hand out promises like candy. But whatever promises I give I keep. She's turned out very well, doing very good in school and have good friends. I plan the same for her little sister.

Quite honestly, I don't want anyone telling me how to run my family, especially outsiders.

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#22 markop2003
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It's nessacery in some cases however it should be banned as that means a parent only uses it in extreme circumstances.
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#23 muller39
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I don't know if I agree with this or not.

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#24 mahlasor
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Dude, people do not realise that is actually a sexual area. Well on the other hand when my wife misbehaves... DONT BAN THAT

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#25 Silenthps
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Only bad parents need to spank their child.

toast_burner
agreed. The problem is that all parents are bad parents, to some degree.
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#26 aransom
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I spank my kids. It's a simple way to foster discipline that has worked for thousands of years. A lot of people say spanking is hitting, but saying spanking is hitting is like saying a doctor is stabbing you during surgery.

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#27 no_more_fayth
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I thought this was about something else that's a little similar. :o

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#28 Colin1192
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ive always found the back hand to be more effective anyways

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#29 aransom
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Only bad parents need to spank their child.

toast_burner

How many kids do you have?

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#30 Legolas_Katarn
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I've never really understood the problem with this or why anyone cares if a parent spanks their kid or not.
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#31 deactivated-5fc147aeeb0aa
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I've never really understood the problem with this or why anyone cares if a parent spanks their kid or not. Legolas_Katarn
Because it causes physical pain?

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#32 knightseason
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I like a good spanking every now and then

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#33 kittensRjerks
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I was only ever spanked once as a kid, and my parent vowed never to do it again. Instead they found other ways to punish me instead of having to be abusive.

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#34 redstorm72
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I don't agree with spanking. I think it's a method of punishment used by terrible parents who can't get their kid to do what they want. My parents never needed to uses the threat of physical violence to get me to do what they wanted, they would use alternative methods like sitting me in a corner or not letting me watch TV. That being said, I don't think it should be banned, it's not really the governments place to dictate how we parent our children.

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#35 curono
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I endorse public spankings only.SolidSnake35
With hot pans. No, seriously, violence is not cool. ...HOWEVER... Sometimes a good spank is necessary. Sometimes kids need a hit that stuns them -I dont mean physically, but some kind of mental shocker-. Spanking just like slaps, should not be used for the sakes of physical punishment or to cause pain as retribution. Spanking should be used as that thing that shocks people and stops them in their tracks.
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#36 ice144
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I was only ever spanked once as a kid, and my parent vowed never to do it again. Instead they found other ways to punish me instead of having to be abusive.

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That's considered abusive? Wow, be glad you didn't live in a different generation.
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#37 IceBlazerX
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[QUOTE="rragnaar"]At first I thought this was about our new policy of publicly spanking users before we ban them, and I was wondering how the news leaked out. S***! I've said too much.Zyrokin

Sounds like a reward rather than a punishment. Just saying.

You have your reward then. :)
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#38 chrisrooR
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Yes, there is absolutely no need whatsoever to hit your child. Hitting a child makes the child stop the action for the wrong reason; the child fears the parent, as opposed to the child understanding why what they did was wrong.
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#39 jun_aka_pekto
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I don't agree with spanking. I think it's a method of punishment used by terrible parents who can't get their kid to do what they want. My parents never needed to uses the threat of physical violence to get me to do what they wanted, they would use alternative methods like sitting me in a corner or not letting me watch TV. That being said, I don't think it should be banned, it's not really the governments place to dictate how we parent our children.

redstorm72

It's not just that. I spanked my kid because she forced out the plastic covers on an electrical outlet and wanted to stick a fork in it. Explaining why it's dangerous was pointless without an actual demonstration of the consequences. I found it better to put the fear of God into her with certain situations until she was aware why. Those alternative methods work mostly for the usual whiny brats. That wouldn't stop my kid at all from messing with the electrical outlet.

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#40 aransom
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[QUOTE="redstorm72"]

I don't agree with spanking. I think it's a method of punishment used by terrible parents who can't get their kid to do what they want. My parents never needed to uses the threat of physical violence to get me to do what they wanted, they would use alternative methods like sitting me in a corner or not letting me watch TV. That being said, I don't think it should be banned, it's not really the governments place to dictate how we parent our children.

jun_aka_pekto

It's not just that. I spanked my kid because she forced out the plastic covers on an electrical outlet and wanted to stick a fork in it. Explaining why it's dangerous was pointless without an actual demonstration of the consequences. I found it better to put the fear of God into her with certain situations until she was aware why. Those alternative methods work mostly for the usual whiny brats. That wouldn't stop my kid at all from messing with the electrical outlet.

Or when your kid undoes their seatbelt while you're driving down the highway.

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#41 redstorm72
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[QUOTE="redstorm72"]

I don't agree with spanking. I think it's a method of punishment used by terrible parents who can't get their kid to do what they want. My parents never needed to uses the threat of physical violence to get me to do what they wanted, they would use alternative methods like sitting me in a corner or not letting me watch TV. That being said, I don't think it should be banned, it's not really the governments place to dictate how we parent our children.

jun_aka_pekto

It's not just that. I spanked my kid because she forced out the plastic covers on an electrical outlet and wanted to stick a fork in it. Explaining why it's dangerous was pointless without an actual demonstration of the consequences. I found it better to put the fear of God into her with certain situations until she was aware why. Those alternative methods work mostly for the usual whiny brats. That wouldn't stop my kid at all from messing with the electrical outlet.

Or maybe next time you should just keep a better eye on your kid. Your putting the fear of God into your kid because of your failings as a parent.

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#42 carrot-cake
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The senate wants this does it? Well the senate can go **** themselves. They're a bunch of over privileged pricks who not only are not elected, but have the power to strike down a bill WITHOUT EVEN DISCUSSING IT. Why does this useless body exist? It's just a really nice retirement package for gov't favorites. They dont even have to attend the majority of the sessions!

Someimes spanking is necessary.

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#43 Crazyguy105
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I was spanked quite a few times but that's because I deserved it. :P

Telling a 4 year old to be quiet is not going to get them to shut up. Sometimes a spanking is necessary.

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#44 jun_aka_pekto
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[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

[QUOTE="redstorm72"]

I don't agree with spanking. I think it's a method of punishment used by terrible parents who can't get their kid to do what they want. My parents never needed to uses the threat of physical violence to get me to do what they wanted, they would use alternative methods like sitting me in a corner or not letting me watch TV. That being said, I don't think it should be banned, it's not really the governments place to dictate how we parent our children.

aransom

It's not just that. I spanked my kid because she forced out the plastic covers on an electrical outlet and wanted to stick a fork in it. Explaining why it's dangerous was pointless without an actual demonstration of the consequences. I found it better to put the fear of God into her with certain situations until she was aware why. Those alternative methods work mostly for the usual whiny brats. That wouldn't stop my kid at all from messing with the electrical outlet.

Or when your kid undoes their seatbelt while you're driving down the highway.

That too. But, I usually have someone at the back (usually the wife or mother-in-law) to ensure they stayed secured. A "Don't make me come back there!" in a growling tone is enough to keep the young one from messing with the buckles.

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#45 chrisrooR
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[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

[QUOTE="redstorm72"]

I don't agree with spanking. I think it's a method of punishment used by terrible parents who can't get their kid to do what they want. My parents never needed to uses the threat of physical violence to get me to do what they wanted, they would use alternative methods like sitting me in a corner or not letting me watch TV. That being said, I don't think it should be banned, it's not really the governments place to dictate how we parent our children.

aransom

It's not just that. I spanked my kid because she forced out the plastic covers on an electrical outlet and wanted to stick a fork in it. Explaining why it's dangerous was pointless without an actual demonstration of the consequences. I found it better to put the fear of God into her with certain situations until she was aware why. Those alternative methods work mostly for the usual whiny brats. That wouldn't stop my kid at all from messing with the electrical outlet.

Or when your kid undoes their seatbelt while you're driving down the highway.

So you're essentially reinforcing your own behavior (hitting your child). The more you hit your child, the more you begin to believe that it works to stop behavior that isn't wanted. What you're actually doing to the child is much different. The child cannot possibly begin to understand WHY what they're doing is wrong, so why would you hit them when they can't understand why you're hitting them. So instead of developing a relationship with your child, you're making he/she fearful of you as a parent. The child won't do an action, not because it's wrong, but because the child is fearful of being hit/punished, which is the wrong way to approach the situation. It's a bad parenting move.
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#46 no_more_fayth
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There's a difference between spanking and beating.

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#47 redstorm72
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There's a difference between spanking and beating.

no_more_fayth

Not to a child

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#48 chrisrooR
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There's a difference between spanking and beating.

no_more_fayth
A child can't comprehend it.

[QUOTE="no_more_fayth"]

There's a difference between spanking and beating.

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Not to a child

Spoke too soon :P
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#49 no_more_fayth
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[QUOTE="no_more_fayth"]

There's a difference between spanking and beating.

redstorm72

Not to a child

Then they wouldn't know they're being beaten.

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do not want