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#101 Jakendo
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So who do you trust more? Someone who makes the game or someone who played the game?

Jaysonguy

Who do you trust more? Professional gamers who spent hours trying to figure out all the exploits of characters' moves or some company who didnt make the game but Nintendo let them make the guide anyway.

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#102 Sonick54
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I like who smash is the only game where tiers are argued about. If this topic we're about street fighter or tekeen, none of us would be arguing over tiers.
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#103 markconigliaro
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Wow at this topic, are you seriously useing that horrible Prima guide as your source? Are you actually posting without laughing out of your chair?

I don't see how people can't believe in tiers, by saying tiers don't exist, your telling me that every single fighting game ever made is perfectly balanced, not a single character is better then another, even just slightly, and the developers are either robots or gods because their perfect and know more about the game than the people putting years of time into.

Opinions can be wrong too, if your opinion is that Olimar/Pikachu/Wario/IC are the worst, then your just wrong because its been PROVEN that they are great characters.

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#104 rockbandman9
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I hate Lucas and snake the most. For some reason there moves always back fire for me.
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#105 toadster101
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Finally he shuts up about the Prima guide. Seriously, their guides aren't even that great.
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#106 lolzman2
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agreed i would never use them even if someone paid me
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#107 chocolate1325
Member since 2006 • 33007 Posts
Game and Watch I can't play as him at all.
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#108 slimdave21
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Wario! FTL
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#109 gumnut7
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EVERY Character is good if you know how to use them, but I know how to use Pikachu and he is like the worst. ( Yes Ash, You Are a Bad Pokemon Trainer):D
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#110 Pat_Rick909
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Probably Olimar but thats just my opinion

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#111 Matthew_han
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[QUOTE="toadster101"]

The characters are even. They all have weaknesses and advantages. Nobody is "better" or "worse". Tiers usually represent who everybody plays as the most. Prima isn't even associated with Nintendo.

Jaysonguy

No, no they're not

Tiers are who is the better player right out of the gate, who has the most powerful hit, heavest weight, fastest, that sort of thing.

I already explained Prima's relationship with Nintendo since they stopped publishing guides, if you wont listen there's not anything I can do about that.

jayson guy, no offense or anything but seriously u should try listening to other ppl for once. Tiers r made by ppl who play these game friggin like 24hr per week, who exploit all glitches and stuff. If what you said is true, then how come fox friggin owns in melee? he was rated 3 out of 5 by nintendo nd prima, nd U KNOW HE OWNS EVEN FOR BEGINNERS. Their tiers r gay jason, just accept that. Nd it takes years to create an acceptable tier.

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#112 sman3579
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The lowest ranked characters are all follows

Kirby

Ganondorf

Olimar

Pikachu

Wario

Yoshi

All are rated 5 out of 10

Jaysonguy

Ganondorf got a six.

Anyways I think the ratings are for noobs (meaning how well a new player would do with them). The top 3 characters I play as go a 6 (Mr. Game & Watch), a 5 (Olimar), and a 6 (Luigi) and Im way better with them then I am with Marth (who got a 9) and all the characters that got an 8.

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#113 TDLlama
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Ganondorf has to be the worst character, at least for me.

Kirby is my character of choice, though.

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#114 gamer6464
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I hate Ganondorf, hes just really bad.

Kirby is the best!!

EDIT: Just like the post above, lol.

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#115 sman3579
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Bowser got a 7

Captain Falcon got a 8

Diddy got a 8

DK got a 6

Falco got a 7

Fox got a 6

Ganondorf got a 6

Ice Climbers got a 6

Ike got a 6

Jiggly got a 7

Dedede got a 7

Kirby got a 5

Link got a 7

Lucario got a 7

Lucas got a 7

Luigi got a 6

Mario got a 7

Marth got a 9

Meta Knight got a 6

Mr. Game & Watch got a 6

Ness got a 7

Olimar got a 5

Peach got a 8

Pikachu got a 5

Pit got a 7

R.O.B got a 6

Pokemon Trainer got a 7 (rating all Pokemon together)

Samus got a 6

Zero Suit got a 7

Snake got a 8

Sonic got a 7

Toon Link got a 8

Wario got a 5

Wolf got a 8

Yoshi got a 5

Zelda got a 6

Sheik got a 7

Those are the scores Prima gave the characters.

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#116 gamer6464
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Bowser got a 7

Captain Falcon got a 8

Diddy got a 8

DK got a 6

Falco got a 7

Fox got a 6

Ganondorf got a 6

Ice Climbers got a 6

Ike got a 6

Jiggly got a 7

Dedede got a 7

Kirby got a 5

Link got a 7

Lucario got a 7

Lucas got a 7

Luigi got a 6

Mario got a 7

Marth got a 9

Meta Knight got a 6

Mr. Game & Watch got a 6

Ness got a 7

Olimar got a 5

Peach got a 8

Pikachu got a 5

Pit got a 7

R.O.B got a 6

Pokemon Trainer got a 7 (rating all Pokemon together)

Samus got a 6

Zero Suit got a 7

Snake got a 8

Sonic got a 7

Toon Link got a 8

Wario got a 5

Wolf got a 8

Yoshi got a 5

Zelda got a 6

Sheik got a 7

Those are the scores Prima gave the characters.

sman3579

Thats not a very good list, Falcon and Diddy Kong are rated the highest when they are clearly not the best, while Kirby and Yoshi are rated in the lowest, who are actually quite good.

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#117 sman3579
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[QUOTE="sman3579"]

Bowser got a 7

Captain Falcon got a 8

Diddy got a 8

DK got a 6

Falco got a 7

Fox got a 6

Ganondorf got a 6

Ice Climbers got a 6

Ike got a 6

Jiggly got a 7

Dedede got a 7

Kirby got a 5

Link got a 7

Lucario got a 7

Lucas got a 7

Luigi got a 6

Mario got a 7

Marth got a 9

Meta Knight got a 6

Mr. Game & Watch got a 6

Ness got a 7

Olimar got a 5

Peach got a 8

Pikachu got a 5

Pit got a 7

R.O.B got a 6

Pokemon Trainer got a 7 (rating all Pokemon together)

Samus got a 6

Zero Suit got a 7

Snake got a 8

Sonic got a 7

Toon Link got a 8

Wario got a 5

Wolf got a 8

Yoshi got a 5

Zelda got a 6

Sheik got a 7

Those are the scores Prima gave the characters.

gamer6464

Thats not a very good list, Falcon and Diddy Kong are rated the highest when they are clearly not the best, while Kirby and Yoshi are rated in the lowest, who are actually quite good.

Actually Marth is rated the highest.

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#118 wiifan001
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How the heck is Jigglypuff higher than Ike? Yoshi is underrated. Sheik is terrible. And why did Peach get an 8? This list is... tch.

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#119 Longhornfan11
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lol....seriously....this is just plain hilarious.

The ****ing IQ meter must have broke by now. You guys make Gamefaqs seem like a science convention for the most part. This topic is pure gold

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#120 Sonick54
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lol....seriously....this is just plain hilarious.

The ****ing IQ meter must have broke by now. You guys make Gamefaqs seem like a science convention for the most part. This topic is pure gold

Longhornfan11

well at least we don't have fads >__>

whne will noss's pain end longhorn?

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#121 ZumaJones07
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:P This is like one of the first topics on the Wii Board where tiers have actually been discussed. I don't think we should discuss them any longer.
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#122 BobbyBobby85
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I've ALWAYS hated Jigglypuff, and never felt that he/she/ it belonged even in the original. Lemme just say that right now. As for the remaining characters; Ganondorf, Yoshi, Ness, and Wario are all pretty much useless to me.
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#123 jonluke93
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WALL-E errrrr i mean rob

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#124 sman3579
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WALL-E errrrr i mean rob

jonluke93

ha, my mom and sister call R.O.B WALL-E also.

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#125 paper_rules
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Probably wario.

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#126 Longhornfan11
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I think I'll take a board infested with fads with the occasional intelligent posters than what I have witnessed in this topic, what has been seen cannot be unseen.

I think I might go play TF2 for a while to save my brain....lol.

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#127 sman3579
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I think I'll take a board infested with fads with the occasional intelligent posters than what I have witnessed in this topic, what has been seen cannot be unseen.

I think I might go play TF2 for a while to save my brain....lol.

Longhornfan11

then so play it.

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#128 metroidfood
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Thats not a very good list, Falcon and Diddy Kong are rated the highest when they are clearly not the best, while Kirby and Yoshi are rated in the lowest, who are actually quite good.

gamer6464

Lol, whats bfunnier is that Peach is better than Fox and Falco.

I mean seriously, this list is ridiculous. I thought Prima was stupid for rating characters like Olimar, Pikachu and Kirby so low, but looking at the characters they rated highly just makes me wonder what was going on over there.

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#129 DanteSuikoden
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TOP TIER

Snake

Metaknight

Mr. Game&Watch

VERY HIGH TIER

Marth

Falco

Rob

King DeDeDe

Pit

Olimar

HIGH TIER

Toon Link

Wario

Pikachu

Wolf

Zelda

Lucario

Donkey Kong

Fox

Diddy Kong

Ice Climbers

MID TIER

Lucas

Kirby

Luigi

Ness

Pokemon Trainer

Ike

Mario

LOW TIER

Zero Suit Samus

Peach

Ganondorf

Bowser

Sheik

Link

BOTTOM TIER

Sonic

Samus

JigglyPuff

Captain Falcon

Yoshi

That's the official tier list for the game, as astated by everyone on gamefaqs.

SakuWRYYYYY

Pff tiers are for.......you know the rest:P

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#130 Shy_Guy_Red
Member since 2006 • 17138 Posts

^ That tier list is actually pretty accurate. ^

For character I think is worst, I'd say Ganondorf.

For character I hate the most, Wario.

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#131 murray111
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worst character Jigglypuff-lightest, slowest, horrible final smash, terrible recovery move, sleep move is insanely hard to connect with and no projectiles

Best character Lucas- projectiles, reflector that absorbs projectiles and replenishes health, up smash is really powerful, b up move is manipulative and great for getting the smash ball, final smash better than most and finally his grab is a snake

the only thing that makes ganondorf NOT the worst is his finnal smash because it almost always KO's 2 out of three people

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#132 1337_lost_souls
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The lowest ranked characters are all follows

Kirby

Ganondorf

Olimar

Pikachu

Wario

Yoshi

All are rated 5 out of 10

Jaysonguy

are you kidding, kirby is one of teh best

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#133 1337_lost_souls
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worst characters. from terrible to better off picking nothing

jigglypuff

peach

ice climber

olimar

R.O.B

(opinion)

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#134 1337_lost_souls
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[QUOTE="jonluke93"]

WALL-E errrrr i mean rob

sman3579

ha, my mom and sister call R.O.B WALL-E also.

lol i made a thread bout that but got it locked cause i said it was disabled in the head. (if you know what i mean)

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#135 Longhornfan11
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

The lowest ranked characters are all follows

Kirby

Ganondorf

Olimar

Pikachu

Wario

Yoshi

All are rated 5 out of 10

1337_lost_souls

are you kidding, kirby is one of teh best

don't even get me started on the fact he mentioned Wario, Olimar, and Ganondorf.

Seriously the guy's clueless >_>.

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#136 1337_lost_souls
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[QUOTE="1337_lost_souls"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

The lowest ranked characters are all follows

Kirby

Ganondorf

Olimar

Pikachu

Wario

Yoshi

All are rated 5 out of 10

Longhornfan11

are you kidding, kirby is one of teh best

don't even get me started on the fact he mentioned Wario, Olimar, and Ganondorf.

Seriously the guy's clueless >_>.

well we can't make fun of him for it, just cause he sucks at brawl.

like seriously, pikachu, ganondorf, kirby?

also olimar wario and yoshi are good.. just not when used by me...

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#137 Kratos_Aurion75
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I must say, this topic was quite entertaining
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#139 murray111
Member since 2006 • 88 Posts

I must say, this topic was quite entertainingKratos_Aurion75

did you just make an account to post on this?

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#141 Masterx1220
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i'd have to say Jigglypuff. IMO she just sucks (maybe because i don't no how to use him/her/it)

oh and TIERS R FOR QUEERS

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#142 -Sigil-
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i'd have to say Jigglypuff. IMO she just sucks (maybe because i don't no how to use him/her/it)

oh and TIERS R FOR QUEERS

Masterx1220

Well said.

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#143 freek666
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In my own experiences they would be Mr Game and Watch, Jigglypuff, Ganondorf (great final smash though) and Ness. Peach is a gun if you know how to use her and R.O.B isnt that bad except his final smash sucks major balls.
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#144 -Murdock-
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Prima/Nintendo so I'm going to go with the people that made the game.

So if Nintendo says those are the lowest characters I'm going to go with what they say.

Jaysonguy

So much for having an opinion.

Personally, I've never met anyone who was any good with Jigglypuff. I'm sure there are hundreds of people who could "pwn" me with him, but I feel that he's garbage...and truthfully, his place in the game could have been replaced with a more likeable character. Psyduck anyone?

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#145 TwilightSoilder
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[QUOTE="Masterx1220"]

i'd have to say Jigglypuff. IMO she just sucks (maybe because i don't no how to use him/her/it)

oh and TIERS R FOR QUEERS

-Sigil-

Well said.

Indeed, also, I believe this would be the perfect time to bring up the "Teirs are for Queers" campaign. Just follow the simple instructions in this vid in hopes of ending these tiers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR6sxFBm1P8 Together we can make this a tier free world. ;)
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#146 -Sigil-
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[QUOTE="-Sigil-"][QUOTE="Masterx1220"]

i'd have to say Jigglypuff. IMO she just sucks (maybe because i don't no how to use him/her/it)

oh and TIERS R FOR QUEERS

TwilightSoilder

Well said.

Indeed, also, I believe this would be the perfect time to bring up the "Teirs are for Queers" campaign. Just follow the simple instructions in this vid in hopes of ending these tiers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR6sxFBm1P8 Together we can make this a tier free world. ;)

ROFLcopter x11 :lol:

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#148 Mike5589
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It would have to be Jigglypuff, most worthless character in the game.

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#149 Longhornfan11
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I like how probably 99.9% of the people here base this off their own personal experiance which probably included Item-whoring, The crappiness that is NPC, and constant Sonic is so cheap rants >_>. I mean seriously, some people are actually saying G&W is the worst character in the game?

If you look at actual Facts for a change, many of your opinions would be changed (Yet again, maybe not seeing as it is Gamespot)

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#150 deactivated-5e90a3763ea91
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I would have to say that Peach is the worst character. All of her attacks are pretty weak, her final smash drops health-restoring peaches that anyone can use and doesn't necessarily turn the tide of battle in her favor, and if I had to choose I would say Toad is her best weapon since it's like a defensive counter-attack. I can only see where her umbrella is useful if you're falling from a high ledge and need to navigate far horizontally to reach another one, and her Peach Bomber is kinda cool but at the same time it leaves her vulnerable from behind for a second after use. The vegetables might be useful in a pinch, but you have to have one at the ready in order to use it at split-second life-or-death moments.

I found Jigglypuff to be quite useful, on the other hand. It can float almost as long as kirby and stay airborne for a few seconds, and rollout is just a really fun move to use, especially when you have the room to use it. The one sing move is useful, it puts everyone close by to sleep, but that other one I don't get so much, it puts itself to sleep and kinda leaves you all vulnerable... The pound attack is nice too, I usually use it like a regular attack since Jigglypuff's attacks aren't always so good. And its final smash is pretty decent - at least it can make KOs.

But that's just my opinion on the matter - I'm sure a lot of people are very skilled with Peach, and just as many people are totally hopeless with Jigglypuff. On the first Smash Bros. game I felt that Jigglypuff was the weakest link that time around, but things have shifted since then, it would seem.