This is why we don't have a headset:

Ok guys, all of you complainers who say that Nintendo needs a headset, please calm down. Thread after thread of the same thing, and frankly, it's getting old. Actually, it was old a year ago.

If there was a sticky where all of you can go to complain with eachother about the same issue time and time again, a lot of people around here, including myself, would be very happy. But that's not going to happen, so I'm just going to let you know why you haven't gotten one.

Warning, there is offensive content in this link, so be warned:

Why we don't get a headset.

This is how a good amount of "hardcore" online gamers act (I put it in quotations because these kids are not hardcore gamers, just harcore idiots), and it ruins the fun for everybody else.

Now, you'd probably say something like "but you could just mute them noob", at which point I would smack you upside the head for using the term "noob".

Yes, you could mute them, but the fact is that some people don't know how to mute others (especially people who might be new to online gaming), and nobody knows who to mute before a game starts, so chances are that you're going to hear some kid say something inappropriate at the beginning of a match and they are going to offend someone. Nintendo clearly knows this, and with their "everyone from 8 to 80" image, it's not the route they want to go right now.

I know that a headset would be incredibly useful for communication in an online FPS, but there are so few first-person shooters on the Wii.

Stop and think about this for a second: From Nintendo's point of view, what is the point of releasing a headset when they don't even make first-person shooters? How would a headset would be useful in a game like Smash Bros, or Mario Kart? It simply would serve no purpose other than to say stupid things like "Oh my God, I just pwned you!!!" It's pointless, absolutely pointless.

Microsoft has a headset because they make games that need one, and the same goes for Sony. They can see a profit off of a headset, and Nintendo doesn't. Nintendo has always made games that are just pure fun and require no excessive strategy, so tell me, what's the point? In the eyes of Nintendo, what's the point?

Tis true tis true this. Nintendo is family freindly, and such acts as shown in the TC above only prove to them why not to have a headset. Now in other news, MoH Heroes 2 in Australia having it's multiplayer components completely stripped (yes, there is NO multiplayer tab in the game menu) can happily celebrate. As a game that depends on having online is better without it..isn't it...:D

So let me get your argument straight.

Because some people are idiots when playing online, nobody should be allowed to communicate when playing online.

I'm sorry that most people want to "spoil" Nintendo's image instead of providing gamers something they want.

Quote : Stop and think about this for a second: From Nintendo's point of view, what is the point of releasing a headset when they don't even make first-person shooters? How would a headset would be useful in a game like Smash Bros, or Mario Kart? It simply would serve no purpose other than to say stupid things like "Oh my God, I just pwned you!!!" It's pointless, absolutely pointless.

um.. 360 has mic even enabled for tennis games. i dont think people just say things like ' oh my god, i just aced the crap outa you'. absolutely pointless for a mic? wow.

Ok guys, all of you complainers who say that Nintendo needs a headset, please calm down. Thread after thread of the same thing, and frankly, it's getting old. Actually, it was old a year ago.

If there was a sticky where all of you can go to complain with eachother about the same issue time and time again, a lot of people around here, including myself, would be very happy. But that's not going to happen, so I'm just going to let you know why you haven't gotten one.

Warning, there is offensive content in this link, so be warned:

Why we don't get a headset.

This is how a good amount of "hardcore" online gamers act (I put it in quotations because these kids are not hardcore gamers, just harcore idiots), and it ruins the fun for everybody else.

Now, you'd probably say something like "but you could just mute them noob", at which point I would smack you upside the head for using the term "noob".

Yes, you could mute them, but the fact is that some people don't know how to mute others (especially people who might be new to online gaming), and nobody knows who to mute before a game starts, so chances are that you're going to hear some kid say something inappropriate at the beginning of a match and they are going to offend someone. Nintendo clearly knows this, and with their "everyone from 8 to 80" image, it's not the route they want to go right now.

I know that a headset would be incredibly useful for communication in an online FPS, but there are so few first-person shooters on the Wii.

Stop and think about this for a second: From Nintendo's point of view, what is the point of releasing a headset when they don't even make first-person shooters? How would a headset would be useful in a game like Smash Bros, or Mario Kart? It simply would serve no purpose other than to say stupid things like "Oh my God, I just pwned you!!!" It's pointless, absolutely pointless.

Microsoft has a headset because they make games that need one, and the same goes for Sony. They can see a profit off of a headset, and Nintendo doesn't. Nintendo has always made games that are just pure fun and require no excessive strategy, so tell me, what's the point? In the eyes of Nintendo, what's the point?

bob_newman

The video was hilarious and 100% accurate to the maturity level of almost every XBL player I have ever encountered. I completely agree. Half the people playing Brawl are going to be under the age of 12 and really don't need to be exposed to this kind of behavior. One thing I do think Nintendo should implement is some kind of "Wii friends" only voice communication so that you can set up games and what not (I have never played a game online though and I am sure they have a text messaging system that gets the job done). When I hear politicians blame video games for violence I turn off the tv but when I comes to online gaming I have this to say: CHILDREN under the age of fourteen should not be permitted to play online games with voice-chatting abilities with anyone they do not know! I have been a firm believer in this for about a year now (after seeing the horrors on XBL). Children who play online games these days are alot more obnoxious, intolerant, ignorant and volgur... I know this from first hand experience. They learn all of this from people my age... and people even older: 20s-40s!!! Its crazy! Plus the Chocolate Milk Kid video doesn't help :P

Sorry my response was so long.

Nintendo needs to let their balls drop and let people say whatever they want on their headsets with mute button (that dont exist as far as i know) Arodjuggernaut

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hahaha this is completely ridiculous. so your telling me that all people react like that online? no they dont. and you dont think kids have 360s as well? kids shouldnt be playing those types of games. I would htink that nintendo would give its buyers what they want. and clearly everyone except you would want a mic. awptimistic

Every single time that I've played online, there has been an idiot. And yes, I play a lot of online. I play Team Fortress 2 a lot (great game), and there is always, always at least one brat ruining it for everyone.

Also, I never said that I don't want a headset, I'm saying that NINTENDO doesn't want one for that reason.

So let me get your argument straight.

Because some people are idiots when playing online, nobody should be allowed to communicate when playing online.

I'm sorry that most people want to "spoil" Nintendo's image instead of providing gamers something they want.

Vampyronight

Again, I'm not saying that a headset is a bad idea, I'm saying that Nintendo thinks it is.

[QUOTE="awptimistic"]hahaha this is completely ridiculous. so your telling me that all people react like that online? no they dont. and you dont think kids have 360s as well? kids shouldnt be playing those types of games. I would htink that nintendo would give its buyers what they want. and clearly everyone except you would want a mic. bob_newman

Every single time that I've played online, there has been an idiot. And yes, I play a lot of online. I play Team Fortress 2 a lot (great game), and there is always, always at least one brat ruining it for everyone.

Also, I never said that I don't want a headset, I'm saying that NINTENDO doesn't want one for that reason.

So let me get your argument straight.

Because some people are idiots when playing online, nobody should be allowed to communicate when playing online.

I'm sorry that most people want to "spoil" Nintendo's image instead of providing gamers something they want.

Vampyronight

Again, I'm not saying that a headset is a bad idea, I'm saying that Nintendo thinks it is.

Its a smart move for Nintendo. All mics are going to do is get the Nintendo bad media because it will be put under the parental umbrella that the US media has created for "whats destroying America". Brawl and Mario Kart are going to have amazing sales regardless as to whether or not they have mics. Nintendo is simply weighing cost vs benefit.

[QUOTE="bob_newman"]

[QUOTE="awptimistic"]hahaha this is completely ridiculous. so your telling me that all people react like that online? no they dont. and you dont think kids have 360s as well? kids shouldnt be playing those types of games. I would htink that nintendo would give its buyers what they want. and clearly everyone except you would want a mic. Broc_Samson

Every single time that I've played online, there has been an idiot. And yes, I play a lot of online. I play Team Fortress 2 a lot (great game), and there is always, always at least one brat ruining it for everyone.

Also, I never said that I don't want a headset, I'm saying that NINTENDO doesn't want one for that reason.

So let me get your argument straight.

Because some people are idiots when playing online, nobody should be allowed to communicate when playing online.

I'm sorry that most people want to "spoil" Nintendo's image instead of providing gamers something they want.

Vampyronight

Again, I'm not saying that a headset is a bad idea, I'm saying that Nintendo thinks it is.

Its a smart move for Nintendo. All mics are going to do is get the Nintendo bad media because it will be put under the parental umbrella that the US media has created for "whats destroying America". Brawl and Mario Kart are going to have amazing sales regardless as to whether or not they have mics. Nintendo is simply weighing cost vs benefit.

no i can garantee you that if brawl had mic features. it will sell WAYY more than when it gets released in USA without a mic

hahaha this is completely ridiculous. so your telling me that all people react like that online? no they dont. and you dont think kids have 360s as well? kids shouldnt be playing those types of games. I would htink that nintendo would give its buyers what they want. and clearly everyone except you would want a mic. awptimistic

Why does the burden of releasing a headset fall on the shoulders of Nintendo? I agree that Nintendo doesn't need a headset for any of its online games.

If other third-party games need or would heighten the experience with a headset then those companies should release a headset with the game. Harmonix and Red Octane didn't wait for Microsoft, Nintendo, or Sony to release instrument peripherals before creating the rhythm games and I think these companies are enjoying some success.

[QUOTE="Broc_Samson"][QUOTE="bob_newman"]

[QUOTE="awptimistic"]hahaha this is completely ridiculous. so your telling me that all people react like that online? no they dont. and you dont think kids have 360s as well? kids shouldnt be playing those types of games. I would htink that nintendo would give its buyers what they want. and clearly everyone except you would want a mic. awptimistic

Every single time that I've played online, there has been an idiot. And yes, I play a lot of online. I play Team Fortress 2 a lot (great game), and there is always, always at least one brat ruining it for everyone.

Also, I never said that I don't want a headset, I'm saying that NINTENDO doesn't want one for that reason.

So let me get your argument straight.

Because some people are idiots when playing online, nobody should be allowed to communicate when playing online.

I'm sorry that most people want to "spoil" Nintendo's image instead of providing gamers something they want.

Vampyronight

Again, I'm not saying that a headset is a bad idea, I'm saying that Nintendo thinks it is.

Its a smart move for Nintendo. All mics are going to do is get the Nintendo bad media because it will be put under the parental umbrella that the US media has created for "whats destroying America". Brawl and Mario Kart are going to have amazing sales regardless as to whether or not they have mics. Nintendo is simply weighing cost vs benefit.

no i can garantee you that if brawl had mic features. it will sell WAYY more than when it gets released in USA without a mic

I don't know of anyone on the planet who is thinking to themselves, "I am not going to buy Brawl because it doesn't have mic."

Nor is it logical that people would see an ad featuring Nintendo's new mic and say to themselves, "Holy Crap! I must get Brawl now so I can pwn some nubs!"

no i can garantee you that if brawl had mic features. it will sell WAYY more than when it gets released in USA without a mic

awptimistic

I find that extremely hard to believe.

Anyone that doesn't wanna buy Brawl just because you can't talk online with random people is... uh.. nothing I can say without getting moderated.

[QUOTE="awptimistic"]

no i can garantee you that if brawl had mic features. it will sell WAYY more than when it gets released in USA without a mic

Erebyssial

I find that extremely hard to believe.

Anyone that doesn't wanna buy Brawl just because you can't talk online with random people is... uh.. nothing I can say without getting moderated.

High-five! :lol:

k so now you know what nintendo is thinking. do you work for them? If you dont like spamming noobs, cry us all a river

awptimistic

Ok, please, "awptimistic", enlighten me: what other reason could Nintendo have as to why they wouldn't want a mic?

If it's not to protect 8 year-old kids who just want to play a game of Mario Kart, then what is it?

I'm just using common sense, something that you clearly missed.

Name one game besides MOHH2 that needs a mic?

For actual gameplay

What would we be talking about playing a fighting game? To say that Brawl needs a headset makes absolutely no sense. Because lord knows that you need to be able to strategize with...yourself while you carefully...beat everybody else on the screen to a pulp. Right.

Yes, there are dummies (aka teen and pre-teen idiots who show their age by how they talk) on XBOX Live. I'm an adult. I feel that I shouldn't have to put up with some little loser's fake repeating-what-I-heard-on-a-rap-album comments just to enjoy a game online. No chat keeps these games impersonal like they should be. Just think about how many disconnects occur because people are getting mad that they're losing. Now add to that the relentless mutterings of some ridiculously idiotic people and you've got people ready to strangle somebody.

No, kids shouldn't be playing these games. But the fact that kids shouldn't be doing something hasn't stopped kids from doing it EVER. Smoking, Cocaine, Sex, Weed, Selling Weed, CDs with the Parental Advisory Warning, Porn, Late night TV shows...and if I think of some more I'll let you know.

I know that XBL and PSN have everybody spoiled into thinking voice chat is necessary, but it's not. I'd much rather keep it like it is as long as the connection is dependable and reliable. To say that it is is to suggest that everybody of every gaming level, the admitted target audience of nintendo, needs voice chat to enjoy games. It's simply not so.

Sorry guy:(

[QUOTE="Arodjuggernaut"]psyching someone out after a kill is an unwritten lawbob_newman

Because otherwise the person who loses won't know that they lost? I still don't see any reason why Nintendo games would need a headset.

Nintendo will release a Wii headset when we, gamers, get some educationpikma

You mean "we" as in the human race.

Nintendo will release a Wii headset when we, gamers, get some educationpikma

Sadly, "gamers" on the whole will never grow up.

I'm not saying that the people saying stupid things right now won't grow up, I'm saying that as soon as they grow up, someone else will take their place.

[QUOTE="pikma"]Nintendo will release a Wii headset when we, gamers, get some educationbob_newman

Sadly, "gamers" on the whole will never grow up.

I'm not saying that the people saying stupid things right now won't grow up, I'm saying that as soon as they grow up, someone else will take their place.

bob-newman please shut the hell up already we need a headset for wii and that is that oaktown510

BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh my God, you just proved my point right there.

shut the hell up oaktown510

Nintendo doesn't want 8 year-old kids listening to you, and frankly, nobody cares what someone like you has to say on your headset anyway.

People like you are why Nintendo doesn't have a headset.

bob-newman please shut the hell up already we need a headset for wii and that is that oaktown510

bob-newman please shut the hell up already we need a headset for wii and that is that oaktown510

hmm i guess a whole bunch of people havn't dropped their balls yet here so they are too scared to talk on mics. awptimistic

Wow, how many people actually read the thread?

No one is saying we don't want a headset. It's simply about the reasons why we're not getting one.

hmm i guess a whole bunch of people havn't dropped their balls yet here so they are too scared to talk on mics. awptimistic

I am pretty sure I do not need to prove my masculinity by arguing with a little kid over a mic thank you. And as for the ladies... btw women don't have balls to drop incase you were wondering.

hmm i guess a whole bunch of people havn't dropped their balls yet here so they are too scared to talk on mics. awptimistic

Nintendo can get sued by angry parents who get pissed off because of some annoying kid who used a "curse word" while their 8 year-old kid was playing Mario Kart online.

It's America, don't tell me it won't happen.

[QUOTE="awptimistic"]hmm i guess a whole bunch of people havn't dropped their balls yet here so they are too scared to talk on mics. bob_newman

Nintendo can get sued by angry parents who get pissed off because of some annoying kid who used a "curse word" while their 8 year-old kid was playing Mario Kart online.

It's America, don't tell me it won't happen.

And frankly I don't think the Nintendo devs want their own kids exposed to that stuff. Miyamoto probably doesn't even know a single english curse word.

[QUOTE="awptimistic"]hmm i guess a whole bunch of people havn't dropped their balls yet here so they are too scared to talk on mics. bob_newman

Nintendo can get sued by angry parents who get pissed off because of some annoying kid who used a "curse word" while their 8 year-old kid was playing Mario Kart online.

It's America, don't tell me it won't happen.

[QUOTE="bob_newman"]

[QUOTE="awptimistic"]hmm i guess a whole bunch of people havn't dropped their balls yet here so they are too scared to talk on mics. LINKloco

Nintendo can get sued by angry parents who get pissed off because of some annoying kid who used a "curse word" while their 8 year-old kid was playing Mario Kart online.

It's America, don't tell me it won't happen.

I think it is more of an image thing. They may not lose the law suite but someone tried and for a reason parents would get mad about.

[QUOTE="bob_newman"]

[QUOTE="awptimistic"]hmm i guess a whole bunch of people havn't dropped their balls yet here so they are too scared to talk on mics. LINKloco

Nintendo can get sued by angry parents who get pissed off because of some annoying kid who used a "curse word" while their 8 year-old kid was playing Mario Kart online.

It's America, don't tell me it won't happen.

Well, I know that Nintendo has made it known that they want to invite every type of gamer, 8 to 80, to play on their consoles with no worries. If they want to stick to that policy, then they can't allow children to hear some of the things that people say online.

Look at it from a concerned parent's point of view. Here is a situation that could very well occur: "I thought the Wii was supposed to be safe for my little Timmy, but then StarFoxFan182 told Timmy that he was a son of a *****, and then said that he ****** his mother in the *** last night."

Nintendo doesn't want that to happen, period.

[QUOTE="LINKloco"][QUOTE="bob_newman"]

[QUOTE="awptimistic"]hmm i guess a whole bunch of people havn't dropped their balls yet here so they are too scared to talk on mics. bob_newman

Nintendo can get sued by angry parents who get pissed off because of some annoying kid who used a "curse word" while their 8 year-old kid was playing Mario Kart online.

It's America, don't tell me it won't happen.

Well, I know that Nintendo has made it known that they want to invite every type of gamer, 8 to 80, to play on their consoles with no worries. If they want to stick to that policy, then they can't allow children to hear some of the things that people say online.

Look at it from a concerned parent's point of view. Here is a situation that could very well occur: "I thought the Wii was supposed to be safe for my little Timmy, but then StarFoxFan182 told Timmy that he was a son of a *****, and then said that he ****** his mother in the *** last night."

Nintendo doesn't want that to happen, period.

[QUOTE="LINKloco"][QUOTE="bob_newman"]

[QUOTE="awptimistic"]hmm i guess a whole bunch of people havn't dropped their balls yet here so they are too scared to talk on mics. bob_newman

Nintendo can get sued by angry parents who get pissed off because of some annoying kid who used a "curse word" while their 8 year-old kid was playing Mario Kart online.

It's America, don't tell me it won't happen.

Well, I know that Nintendo has made it known that they want to invite every type of gamer, 8 to 80, to play on their consoles with no worries. If they want to stick to that policy, then they can't allow children to hear some of the things that people say online.

Look at it from a concerned parent's point of view. Here is a situation that could very well occur: "I thought the Wii was supposed to be safe for my little Timmy, but then StarFoxFan182 told Timmy that he was a son of a *****, and then said that he ****** his mother in the *** last night."

Nintendo doesn't want that to happen, period.

Maybe you should take care of Timmy more and not depend on Nintendo to raise your children. If you can't teach your child to press a mute button or disactivate voice chat then you have no business buying him a Wii in the first place. Buy him a barbie doll, and let the rest of us go on with our lives without having to worry about your child. I personally would have loved to have had voice chat in a game like MOHH2 instead of those lame comments like "need backup," etc. The game would have been so much better. If you don't like voice chat, then don't use it, but don't make everyone else miss out on something that is already common to all other forms of gaming just because you have issue with "timmy."

[QUOTE="bob_newman"][QUOTE="LINKloco"][QUOTE="bob_newman"]

[QUOTE="awptimistic"]hmm i guess a whole bunch of people havn't dropped their balls yet here so they are too scared to talk on mics. santiagochile

Nintendo can get sued by angry parents who get pissed off because of some annoying kid who used a "curse word" while their 8 year-old kid was playing Mario Kart online.

It's America, don't tell me it won't happen.

Well, I know that Nintendo has made it known that they want to invite every type of gamer, 8 to 80, to play on their consoles with no worries. If they want to stick to that policy, then they can't allow children to hear some of the things that people say online.

Look at it from a concerned parent's point of view. Here is a situation that could very well occur: "I thought the Wii was supposed to be safe for my little Timmy, but then StarFoxFan182 told Timmy that he was a son of a *****, and then said that he ****** his mother in the *** last night."

Nintendo doesn't want that to happen, period.

Maybe you should take care of Timmy more and not depend on Nintendo to raise your children. If you can't teach your child to press a mute button or disactivate voice chat then you have no business buying him a Wii in the first place. Buy him a barbie doll, and let the rest of us go on with our lives without having to worry about your child. I personally would have loved to have had voice chat in a game like MOHH2 instead of those lame comments like "need backup," etc. The game would have been so much better. If you don't like voice chat, then don't use it, but don't make everyone else miss out on something that is already common to all other forms of gaming just because you have issue with "timmy."

If you bothered to read what I said before, I never said that I don't want a headset, I'm saying that this is why Nintendo doesn't want to release one. And I'm also talking about games like Mario Kart, games that parents expect to be family-friendly.

Nintendo doesn't want to have to put "T for Teen" or "M for Mature" on every game, just because of some annoying kid who has to have every other word that comes out of his mouth to be vulgar. Do you know how much it would hinder sales if it said "Rated Teen for inappropriate language from annoying children online"?