Xbox One and PS4 will "sell a ton," online hate "needs to go away" Microsoft says

Larry "Major Nelson" Hryb says both consoles are off to a solid start; encourages gamers to celebrate the industry's vibrancy rather than spew hate at one another.

Both the Xbox One and PlayStation 4 will "sell a ton," so you shouldn't waste your time bickering with one another about platform superiority, Microsoft's Larry "Major Nelson" Hryb has argued.

"Both new platforms are off to a great start. We all should be celebrating a healthy, vibrant industry," Hryb said on Reddit (via OXM). "Sony has done a good job and they should be commended. The hate that infects gaming in the online space needs to go away. Sony will sell a ton. We will sell a ton. The industry is doing well...and consumers have choice."

This is not the first time Microsoft has publicly praised Sony. Earlier this month, Microsoft Game Studios corporate vice president Phil Spencer said Sony has "done a nice job" with the PS4, specifically the way in which the company stayed true to its vision for the platform.

The Xbox One sold 3 million units worldwide in 2013, while Sony moved 4.2 million PlayStation 4 consoles during the year. In the United States during December, the Xbox One sold 908,000 units, outperforming the PS4. But as GameSpot editor Martin Gaston explores in his editorial, those sales numbers don't tell the whole story.

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ryanbarker8
ryanbarker8

Those trolls just hate themselves and need to spread that hate like a virus. Nobody that loves their life and is having fun is out there hating on others.

DEATH775
DEATH775

When a company wants all the HATE to go away then there's a problem. You as a company should look back at the things and stupid plan you have going on in the past years. DO you really think that we as a consumer want to hate you for no apparent reason? We hate your company because of your business practice, because of how you treat us consumers. I'm 26 years old and seriously don't like how you people handle things. I have no idea on what kind of people your HR recruits, but seriously you need to fire these kind of people who is making these bad ass decision and start hiring ones that not only focus on profit but also the QUALITY of your products and SERVICES. From what I've learned in my studies is that with better quality consumers are willing to pay more than cheap ass products and services. All in all you will earn profit in the long term if focus on quality. If you focus on milking and money grabbing the consumer then you will earn profit but only in the short term. SO choose which practices you want to go with.

DJKrayz_basic
DJKrayz_basic

yes, we have choice not to buy the new consoles... or you can buy one.. or both, if you can afford that kinda thing... i know i cannot.. and many cannot afford both, so we have to weigh each console for what its worth, hence the bickering... fanboys have been in existence since the beginning of gaming... chess or checkers??? hmm.. seriously...  the new consoles are further from what i wanted than theyve ever been, so im staying away, at least until there's a title i must have...

shinyyoungster
shinyyoungster

We defend bull crap all the time from the xbox brand. So, in turn, we also approve of all the shady business that permanently change and destroy our current gaming experiences.(current and future). Console hardware failures, paying for online, choosing dual layer dvd instead of HDDVD or bluray(storage size for games), Free to play microtransactions, DLC  ridiculous prices, Only micorsoft brand Hard drives that are way over priced, 580p and 640p resouloution upscaled to 1080p, region locked, no backwards compactabilty anymore,Kinect barley has any good programs execpt voice comand, 2 gig max for dlc or xbox arcade game, 32 gig max for thumb drives ect ( 2 gigs and 32 gigs took years in the system life cycle to upgrade), nonrefundable for cash xbox points, over priced 20 gig harddrive and wireless adapter ( both over 100 dollars),.....................................Well to be fair,.over half of these problems plaque the PlayStation Brand as well.It is clear who is the biggest offender between the two. We should not have to defend a brand ever.(or pay people to write good reviews).............. the brand should speak for itself. I am a console gamer who may be switching to PC for a while. If we all did this together, we wouldn't have to defend shady brands. We the people are telling anyone who deals in shady practices that it is okay and we look forward to the new  " bend over and grab your ankles" policies and business structures.

archav3n
archav3n

ooo.. sell a ton huh... glad no one knows on the xbox one youtube promotion?

weapon_x57
weapon_x57

I understand gaming is central to some people's lives. Too me it seems like an escape....except instead of dealing with real world problems you deal with virtual ones. Sure everyone plays video games but it seems that the hardcore/fanboy gamers are using it to vent out unfounded anger....one without history....anger and hate for the sake of anger and hate.


All you idiots....need to grow up and argue about the real things in life that involve the state of the human condition in the real world rather than the virtual one. I am a gamer no doubt and yes I troll and say one console is better than the other....for fun...but its not part of my everyday life and I certainly don't bring emotion into it.


If gaming is a central part of your overall existence...you need to shut that console down....go out and get some fresh air and read the news for once in your god damned life.

punisher1
punisher1

Ms should talk about how they are paying youtubers to do videos of there games. That is a more interesting story.

BarkingSpider81
BarkingSpider81

Why can't we just go back to hating people for other reasons, like the color of their skin or their religion? In all seriousness though, I don't play online anymore because of the insane amount of douchebaggery out there.

coolguyhero
coolguyhero

yaa now they will say when sony taste them dust.the scenario will be different if xbox 1 in the position of ps4.

zenstrata
zenstrata

If you don't want to receive hate, then as a company you need to not try to push obviously abusive policies on your customers.  And don't play dumb about this, as a company you knew well in advance exactly what you were doing when you were planning your moves years in advance.  The big companies (cough Microsoft cough) should spend a bit more time considering the interests of the customer when designing a product they want us to purchase.  Or else they will feel the wrath of said customers when we stop purchasing their products and start pointing out their problems to the world..

Warlord_Irochi
Warlord_Irochi

As long as immaturity exists on the internet, hate won't go away.  But why should we care about people dumb enough to be zealots of a inanimate machine they use to play games?

Let them enjoy their anger if they enjoy that much to be pissed with everyone who does not agree with them.

toyo75
toyo75

This "online hate" is often a manifestation of teen angst and in adults a result of stress.

As long as there are people experiencing repressed frustrations, there will always be online hate and trolling.

On the other hand, there are people who are just plain immature jerks, and there are people who are simply crass in delivering their opinions.

Hakkology
Hakkology

Who do these guys think they are ? Hate needs to go away ?

Hell online hate is more alive than ever its just one of the reasons i don't play D3 but i still play D2.

And online hate is just one of the reasons i'm not touching that "console" of yours, along with slowing the entire PC industry and forcing video game makers to make games available for your consoles standards and hardware.

This greed... Don't be suprised if you get another console in 4 years making this one obsolete.

kelt321
kelt321

There is no hate, just a preference... I prefer one console to another, and it doesn't make me hate another person for owning the console I don't own...

Just my opinion...

Verenti
Verenti

Man, I wish Microsoft and Sony would just shut up already about how people need to stop hating them. We get it; both are really unpopular brands with a ton of baggage that makes gamers approach them and their long time plans with jaded cynicism.


Oh wait.

Upat3am
Upat3am

Steam needs to say something negative about Nintendo that way we can waste our life on mindless politics.

jayjay444
jayjay444

I'm getting bored of next gen games already this years releases couldn't come faster that's my opinion anyway. 

grove12345
grove12345

so all those stories about people saying their local store is full of XB1 but sold out with PS4, just meant Sony didnt supply the US as well

abcdefgabcdefgz
abcdefgabcdefgz

Yeah I agree people argue constantly over the smallest of things with this stuff. Buy what you want and be happy. Competition is always a good thing

quickshooterMk2
quickshooterMk2

well i have replayed mass effect 1 this week 

i have to say, that feel... of opening the gamebox and putting the disk was so nostalgic 


i'm too used to steam, and digital purches in M$ store is just over-priced as fuck 

nevertheless, chugging a disk in the system is the true form of ownership when you buy your software 


still if i had any option of console to go it would be the X1 simply because i can hook my 360 into and it play old game on the new hardware 


this is something that pisses me off about the streaming service of the PS4, you can't play a digital game you bought on the store, which is major bullshit 


you don't see old games on PC saying your hardware is too "new" or too "good" for them 

that's just lazy and really ugly way of saying fuck backwards complataiblity


nintendo tries to save their BC but considering their consoles are region locked i'm not even gonna bother


if microsoft would sell kinectless X1's with no TV bullshit features at a comforting price of 400$ (12 months of gold included) 

i would take it 


PC gaming ain't dying, but the ownership of our video games is dying 

when we would have windows 10 or 11 or whatever will our steam games run them as they should? 

will they work properly? (maybe if i bought on GOG but steam's a different matter) 


currecntly the steamboxes intrest me cause it's nothing but a comfy PC that you plug and play 

but if the steambox fail... it's either X1 or getting an expansive traditonal PC which i don't mind but that's just a fuckton of cash (which could be worth it) but upgrading hardware every couple of years is gonna be costly 


what i'm saying that microsoft should lighten up and walk towards the gamers 

(have better pricing, better online store with no region cockblocking bullshit and poor pricing on digital titles) 


BUT... considering the next gen is not a huge advancment 

it might be an original xbox next to a PC in 2003....


zachyoshida
zachyoshida

best way to decide which console is better and which to buy is ask your friends what they have or plan on getting and then exclusive titles. And this goes with PC gamers as well. I think PC gamers hating on consoles is the most annoying. Yes games are better graphically on a PC if you have the money to spend on a high end one. Me, I don't have the extra cash for a pc and all my friends have xbones so thats what i went with. I understand where he is coming from. The hate really isnt damaging to the industry it's just flat out annoying.

zintarr
zintarr

If MS will reimburse me for the 2 systems I purchased that each had the wonderful RRoD I will stop the hate. Until then, they have earned my anger.

deathsquad99
deathsquad99

There isnt anything anyone can do about and it wont go away. Do you think sports would be as fun if there were no rivalries? Im a Redsox fan, so i always route for the Yankees to lose. Yankees fans hate on us and our team all the time but i love it! The point is that both sides love baseball, just as we all love video games. I personally play for team Sony while my roommate plays for Microsoft, but im not gonna piss on his xbox just because i dont like that particular system. I say embrace your team and boo the other one. Oh and the hate is 99% online but thats the internet for you. Until i see Sony and Microsoft fanboy armies killing each other in the streets im not concerned.

thefriendlydude
thefriendlydude

I will duel any PS4 fan in hand to hand combat right now and even give you the first selection in weapon of choice. Face me and we will finally see who's system is truly greater.

nesky
nesky

"you shouldn't waste your time bickering with one another about platform superiority", said the weaker platform.

wowgrandpa
wowgrandpa

"ryse looks really good" this whole video just lost all credibility. do not recommend garbage. you have a responsibility to your viewers.

wowgrandpa
wowgrandpa

the quote in the title of this article makes me face palm. 

get rid of console exclusivity and there wouldn't be any hate.

BradBurns
BradBurns

Since much of the "hate" is aimed at them, apparently it needs to go away.

Gadeos
Gadeos

Evantually, core console gamers will end owning both PS4 and X1, it's just a matter of which one goes first. In my case, PS4 first and later on, X1.

santinegrete
santinegrete

Good one man, if only people understood that hatred won't make their product of choice look better.

crognalsen
crognalsen

I don't mind learning new things, but does anyone else think next gen has a lot of gimmicky features like the WII had with the WII mote?  Most of the stuff they are trying to sell is multi media, social networking, streaming videos, the clouds, and things of that nature.  There isn't a whole lot that makes the gaming experience better than it was IMO.  It might be good for the average person who likes to socialize a lot and doesn't care about using the cloud for a lot of things.  Don't get me wrong.  I don't mind using the cloud for storing files here and there, but I don't want to stream everything from a remote server.  Hopefully I never will have to do that.  Social networking seems overboard these days.  Everyone is trying to push it.  I already feel like there is no escape with smart phones.  You can't get alone time anymore.  You are always having to be connected to friends and work.  I realize a lot of people like social networking, but for me I got into computers because it allowed me to stay away from it to a large extent.  To sum up I don't see anything on next gen consoles I need to have that my PC couldn't do better.  My PC already plays games better than any console and I don't think exclusive titles are worth the money you spend.

devilzzz2014
devilzzz2014

Hey Major Nelson I have a different view on the health of console gaming.  When Nintendo, a company who is anti-internet for good reason and makes great coop / family games to play in our own homes with real life people, (friends and family) are not able to sell their console enough well then there is a problem with the health of console gaming.  Sad, sad world.

MarkKB
MarkKB

@DEATH775  


>When a company wants all the HATE to go away then there's a problem.


They're not asking for people to stop hating Microsoft, they're asking for the hate between fans of the PS4 and fans of the Xbox One to go away. Reading comprehension FTW!

crognalsen
crognalsen

@weapon_x57 

Your probably right, but everyone ignores their/other peoples problems to an extent IMO.  There may be a rare few who not only deal with their own issues, but help other people as well.  To me I feel it's easy to hide in entertainment because the worlds problems don't seem fixable.  There are too many people and too many issues.  I can see why some people would want to give up and spend more time on their sports, movies, tv shows, games, etc.  The world seems like such a BS place that revolves more around making money/power/status then about helping each other or improving the world.  I don't see how people can judge others in this regard.

Warlord_Irochi
Warlord_Irochi

@devilzzz2014Yes, you believe Microsoft is the only company doing that. The news would be if a macro-corporation would NOT be doing that.

ForceSkin
ForceSkin

@Hakkology I'm pretty sure it's common PC practice (pirating, hacking) that is holding its own gaming back. Why would developers make huge expensive games for a platform that has a large population that won't pay for them? PC gamers are supposed to be the master race but you don't even have GTAV, one of the greatest selling games of all time. Definitely goes to show how much large developers need the PC community. 

mkdms14
mkdms14

@grove12345 Well yes Sony launch in soo many countries but Microsoft only launched in 10 countries soo that they could keep up with demand.  At all my local stores that sell both consoles PS4 is no where to be found but there are plenty of Xboxones and WiiU.  They all say that they only received like 4 and all were gone in a couple of hours.  Honestly both are great consoles.

analgrin
analgrin

@quickshooterMk2You dont have to push "enter/return" twice at the end of each sentence.


otherwise your comments take up far too much..

 ..space

RobDev
RobDev

@devilzzz2014 Maybe if Nintendo ADVERTISEd their console correctly so their casual gamers (90% of their sales) didn't think the wii UI was an overpriced tablet add on to the Wii they would have sold more.

santinegrete
santinegrete

@devilzzz2014 Nintendo screwed up, just like any other console maker in the wrong time with the wrong strategy, deal with it. I just hope it doesn't die, I need a good metroid game, it's been long time.

klugenbeel
klugenbeel

@devilzzz2014 You're a complete and total idiot if you don't think your friends and family can't come over and also play on a PS4 or Xbox One. Someone call the WHAAmbulance for the crying Nintendo fan boys.

kyphe
kyphe

@ForceSkin Second hand retail takes more money out of developers pockets than piracy ever has and that effects consoles as well as PCs, if you buy a second hand console game you have not given the devs a cent! piracy reports have been proven to be vastly over estimated with a single game which may have to be downloaded in 20 parts being recorded as 20 illegal downloads of a full game. The PC market is worth over 4 billion in downloads alone which is well worth any developers time. But they know that if they release  all console games on PC no PC owner is ever going to by one of their shiny new consoles just as they know if they release all console games on all platforms then no one would ever by both consoles.