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LexLas
LexLas

I like this video, its honest and straight to the point. 

scottwilkins
scottwilkins

These guys are wrong on so many levels.  First, the power of both machines according to all developers that have worked on them are 100% identical.  PS4 looks better on paper, but in reality, the power difference is NOT there.  Second, you get a HELL of a lot more than Netflix out of Xbox Live Gold.  A HELL of a lot more.  Lies like this really piss me off.  BTW, I own both consoles.

gtron8
gtron8

how often does psn network go down? just wondering. live seems pretty solid so far. 

Scarshi
Scarshi

I still like building gaming PC's. With all the hardware choices, I can make it mine. Does it cost more? Yes! But I really don't care about spending money on a hobby and passion.


Do I like the look of both new consoles. Yes! 

What will my friends be playing? Not sure I care.

What games are coming out and only on which one? I'm keeping tabs.


Choose a console now, buy the other later when prices go down a notch or two. Either way.


Buy the same console again when the "slim" versions come out? LMAO!


Just enjoy what you have or look forward to getting ... who knows what you'll be playing and enjoying 2015 and beyond? Enjoy the next 5-10 years of consoles and PC upgrades all you gamers!


Happy 2014!

MrPotato16
MrPotato16

I'm really torn between the 2. Ps4 has the hardware but XO has a better controller imo and microsoft announced 1 $billion investment in exclusives, twice as much as Sony. And there's dedicated servers for every game..... 

But again, PS4 has the hardware and free games..

ughhh what to buy!!

TroyTrojanGamer
TroyTrojanGamer

The xboxone is winning hands down on what's out now and what's coming out.  Here is the knock on the PS4 people are hoping that games they have never played are going to be good.  But let's make fair comparisons on the actual gaming aspects not hardware:


Was Forza better than Gran Turismo? Yes.

Has Halo as a series been better than Killzone? Yes.

Have family games/niche games been better on the xbox? Yes.


Furthermore, the big name exclusive games for the PS4 are seriously just not there.  Kingdom Hearts, Metal Gear, and Final Fantasy which are all supposed to be Sony exclusives are going to be on the Xbox.  I'm a current PS3 owner and I still do not see any titles from Sony that would make them buy a system coming up.  It just all seems like wishful thinking from people who hate Microsoft.  Games like Halo and Mario are games you would buy a system for.

sixt3denied
sixt3denied

Sony already announced that they are going to start charging an on-line fee for multi-player gaming. $9.99 per month or $49.99 per year. So for all those bashing XBOX Live - hold onto your wallets....because Sony is going to be coming for you soon.. For the extra $10.00 a year i'll stick with XBOX Live.

sixt3denied
sixt3denied

The PS3 had more horsepower than the Xbox 360 but most games looked better on the xbox. Why? Because Microsoft works very closely with game-makers to ensure that they are getting the most out of the Xbox's capabilities. This will continue with the XBOX One. 

And regarding xbox gold - People have no problem spending$400$500 for a next-gen system and then cry about dropping $60 for Live? Give me a break!!!! Not to mention that Microsoft's on-line eco-system is vastly more mature than Sony's. It's XBOX all the way...


Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

I've always preferred the Xbox One. I just feel more at home with it.

But £100 is a lot of money for a Kinect I don't care about even slightly.

Tristram Wake
Tristram Wake

Since I got a gamepad for my laptop, my Xbox One is literally gathering dust.

Michael Escajeda
Michael Escajeda

where are the experts to ask? I cannot see them these two guys are standing in the way. ha still have some room to grow but for sure improving

Jeremiah Erickson
Jeremiah Erickson

How much of a graphical leap between the PS3/360 is there really for the new generation of consoles? The only two studios I've seen that were able to get the most out of the PS3's power were Naughty Dog and Santa Monica.

David Sil
David Sil

"Ask The Experts" who probably started gaming with the PS2/PS3 transition and don't know much else about gaming.

Ramon Terrell
Ramon Terrell

Not down-talking the Wii U, but you do realize the competition hasn't been out more than a month yet, right? The Wii U is a year old at five million, and the PS4 and Xbox have been out a month and have over two million a piece. As far as having the best games, that is subjective. I love Zelda, but prefer the vast majority of playstation exclusives. Some prefer xbox, etc. There is no best console. There is only the best console for YOU.

Dan Zapix
Dan Zapix

Super Mario Bros U, Mario 3D World... With Donkey Kong Country and Mario Kart 8 not that far away, and Smash Bros sometime in 2014... Plus others which may appeal or not appeal depending on the person (ZombiU, Hyrule Warriors, Wonderful 101). But don't get it to play multiplatform. LOL, that's a waste of money (and their online setup is the worst thing to ever touch the internet)! And if you didn't own a Wii, well... there's a huge backlog of decent stuff. Nintendo is great for Nintendo exclusives.

Dan Zapix
Dan Zapix

Currently they bring a total of $900 (plus taxes if applicable) worth of dust collecting!

Lee Martinez
Lee Martinez

Gaming is good no matter which console you choose.

Nicholas Papa
Nicholas Papa

Wii U is the best console this generation. It is currently in the lead with almost FIVE million units sold, and the competition hasn't been able to catch up yet. Wii U also is the best value and has the best games, such as Super Mario 3D World.

John Connor
John Connor

If there guys are experts, then I'm a God

Dan Offerdahl
Dan Offerdahl

the correct answer is, everything Sony junk does, XB1 does 10 times better.

Tyler Dnap VanNeste
Tyler Dnap VanNeste

and now these days you usuaklly get a extra free month for buying a year. I know last time i bought my sub was at EBGames and i got a extra 2 months for buying the 12month.

Baz Beale
Baz Beale

How impatient some people are...what did you expect...3 launch games or what.... give it 6-8 months have both systems will have a decent choice....I got my ps4 and I dont mind waiting. .some people expect so much its ridiculous

Jak Gibberish
Jak Gibberish

Wii U actually looks more tempting because it seems different from the rest...... X1 and PS4 just seem like downgraded PCs. PS4 does however have the edge for me because of the exclusives look better in my eyes! But other than that a Wii U seems more like a different console with something different to offer!

Jared Beasley
Jared Beasley

Ign has a list of games fir 2014. I counted about 15 games on the x1 I want. Maybe more for u depends on your preferences

Jon Taylor
Jon Taylor

I am getting Wii u and Xbox one both have great game offerings

Danny Rowan
Danny Rowan

"Experts". Either console is good. My Xbone is serving me well.

Jared Beasley
Jared Beasley

There both worth the price to me. The x1 is by far the best system ive owned. Once the games cone out I can see no reason why I wont be happy with it for the next 10 years

Jeff Snyder
Jeff Snyder

Not sure if I want a Wii U or X1. Waiting to see what the games are like next year. My X360 is good for now.

lucalus
lucalus

@scottwilkins Agreed the comment about having to pay $60 to watch Netflix was asinine. XBL Gold goes way beyond any one application. They fail to mention that XBL has free games with Gold (on 360 - not sure about XBone). Even without free games, XBL Gold is worth every penny for the reliability and flexibility it offers us the consumers of these games and applications. XBone builds on that and extends it into something that we will only fully understand once Microsoft starts releasing the exclusive content that it has been developing for XBL on XBone. I for one can't wait for that because up to this point, my XBone is sitting unplayed until more of my friends upgrade (and no none of my friends are going over to Sony).

agrx
agrx

@TroyTrojanGamer I don't like online multiplayer, the Xbox seems under powered and expensive, I don't need a camera, and I rarely do anything in my living room other than games. and the single player gaming experience will be roughly the same on both consoles.

Ps4 was more appealing to me.

agrx
agrx

@sixt3denied Yea.... playstation plus pays for itself. Games with gold is a joke.

amar1234
amar1234

@sixt3denied 


The ps 3 had a better cpu only, but it was a cpu and software architecture  that the games companies didnt have  a clue what to do with. Only games that were Sony exclusives  looked good. assuming Sony helped them. The xbox 360 actually had a better gpu than the ps3, and this is what matters to games companies. so sorry dude you are wrong in your assessment.


The Ps 4 however trully has  a more powerful gpu and a great architecture this time around . The benefits of which we already seeing , during launch window (games run on 1080p on ps 4 and 720p on xbone).If Sony capatilize on this early victory , This gap can get even bigger later down the line.

thebeachguy90
thebeachguy90

@sixt3denied Difference is PS3's hardware was a pain to develop for, now PS4's hardware has received universal praise from developers. Hell, some are even saying it's more friendly that Xbox One.  So consider those days over. 

PS Plus gives gamers a much better value than Shove-Every-App=and Feature-Behind-The-Paywall that is Xbox Live. 

amar1234
amar1234

@Dannystaples14 


You paying more than £100 for kinect. the xbonem is inferior to Ps 4 in terms of hardware so it would have been cheaper. Its the kinect that made the xbone so expensive. My calculations have the kinect at £150. You say you prefer the xbone one, thats fine i assume you dont care about graphics, thats fine.

ciofy1
ciofy1

you can know
 alot about gaming even if you started recentlt,let alone 10 years ago,you ignorant

iamnavarres
iamnavarres

The Wii is for children. PS4 and Xbox One is for adults although reading these comments you wouldn't know it.

lucalus
lucalus

@thebeachguy90 The reason PS4's hardware is easier to develop for than XBOne is because they went for the simple brute force approach to the design. Microsoft's design has a little extra piece that multiplies the power of its "weaker" elements so that when used properly can result in more processing throughput than PS4 with it's DDR5. Most developers of XBox games know how to take advantage of this extra hardware (if they did so with the 360).

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

@amar1234 Yeah I've never cared about graphics. If I had I'd not even be bothering with console and I'd go build a top end desktop PC. 

But you don't think the PS4 is going to be massively better graphics do you? 

Most games these days are multi-platform. Which means the developers will make the game on the least powerful console, which excluding the Wii U will be the Xbox One. Then they will port the game directly onto PS4 and PC and will then bump the resolution up to 1080 for PS4 if it isn't already.

Other than that the multiplatform games will look identical. 

But the exclusives won't even have any basis for comparison anyway, so unless we are talking about someone who is a professional graphics specialist and knows exactly what they are looking for it is likely no one will notice any difference anyway.

Like back in the day of playing PS1 games they looked better than they do today. As in a PS1 today seems to look a lot worse than it used to. Partly because we are used to higher levels of graphics and we used to have smaller televisions. Using a lower resolution on a small TV can look just as good as a high resolution on a massive TV and my bet it unless you have a 40+ inch TV and you sit less than six feet away from it, the difference will be negligible even if you were to set up two identical TVs right next to one another.

So for me who will be playing my console on a 20 inch TV in my bedroom, a PS4 and Xbox One will practically be the same console for most of the time I'm playing. That and neither consoles exclusives do anything for me any more. When they can bring out an exclusive that isn't just a linear set of corridors with some rather crap story, like Halo 4 was and The Last of Us was then I'm not going near them.

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

@amar1234 It will look blurry most likely if directly compared. As in if I set up two TVs that are identical and play the same game on both directly next to one another. But who does that? Who has two identical TVs in the same room? Most people will buy one console and when they do that it doesn't matter if it is the Xbox One or the PS4 on their own they will both look great. And they won't have any basis for comparison. Comparing from memory is not comparing. So even if they went around to their friends house and played the other console it wouldn't be a comparison.

Marginally better load times probably about five-ten seconds. Woah awesome!

PC gamers will probably not care and will expect it to be lower graphics fidelity anyway. Personally I don't play PC games all that much because even though the games LOOK better on PC the quality of the story and the gameplay is no better than on console and you have to actually pay quite a lot of money to get those PC graphics at 1080p and 60fps. Not massive amounts more than a console but still more and even more if you want to maintain that performance over a few years. Same reason I won't be buying a PS4 just for a bit of extra power that I won't even notice unless I directly compare the two, which I am never going to do.

Most people on console have never had 1080 and 60fps though have they? I actually do play some PC games and I admit they are fantastic looking, but it still isn't worth it just so you can play the same shallow games as ever. Same corridor running borefests of games.

amar1234
amar1234

@Dannystaples14 @amar1234 


No the multiplatform  games wont look massively better on PS4 compared to xbone in terms of textures or polygons  or effects,

No the difference is in the resolution ie the sharpness of the graphics the xbone is stuck at 720p where as the ps4 is at 1080p the problem is all modern tvs are 1080p, the xbone will look blurry and more jagged on a hdtv where as the ps4 will be showing games at the the HDTV native resolution and so  will look more sharp and less jagged and blurry.

The ps 4 will also have marginally better load times and or frame rate.

For some people this kind of difference isnt that noticeable for others its glaringly obvious ( Pc gamers will notice ). . There s saying " if you never had it , you wont miss it"., so i think you are fine with xbone.