Get the Metal Gear Racing game...

Oh wait, there isn't one, kinda like the immature lie you put for the topic here.

Leave.

Overall, the 360 will stay steady... Nothing unexpected.

Microsoft, with the exception of Gears of War 2 to some extent, doesn't have many system sellers. Banjo isn't returning to form in the way it should to tap into the casual market, Too Human will sell primarily to those who already own the console and the new Viva Pinata game will suffer a similar fate to the original if it doesn't come out for $30.

In terms of growth, the Playstation 3 will win undoubtedly. With the release of Resistance 2, Motorstorm 2, Little Big Planet, Socom, Wipeout HD, Home and Bioshock to name some of the bigger titles. Plus there's the possibility of Killzone 2 being released (although I say it'll be an early '09 release) and Metal Gear's continous sales. Really, the Sony platform will become and unstoppable force for the hardcore.

In the end, though, the Wii will sell the most systems, which seriously depresses me...

http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0926INGFS10101532&catid=25253&logon=&langid=EN

Thanks for any advice you can give me... I'm wondering if it can run something like battlefield 2

The laptop Stealthed is referring to is the best gaming laptop under $2000. The processor could be better, but the graphics card has no competition.kodex1717

But I need something $1000 or lower...

No its really not too great. But if you are willing to go up to 1300 the P-6860FX on bestbuy.com is an amazing deal gaming wise.

But if you cant scrape that together try the Leveno Ideapad at newegg with the 8600, its 999.99. Search for 59013779 and it should pop right up.

StealthedRogue

Thanks for the advice, I appreciate it.

Unfortunately, I wouldn't be able to order from that website, as I live in Canada, and I currently have no way to order products off the internet (long story)

Is there any that you know of that are available at future shop/best buy?

http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0926INGFS10100361&catid=25253&PCName=laptop_dell&logon=&langid=EN&test%5Fcookie=1#

How would this thing fare as a gaming laptop? Is the graphics card good enough to run a battlefield game smoothly? Any info would be great... And if you can recommend a better laptop under $1 000, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks

I see your point about Too Human. You're right that the development cycle, premature showings, and attrocious public relations/marketing may have doomed this title's commercial success. It's been scaled back to a 2 player co-op too... which doesn't help when they've been promising a 4 player rpg. That was really a disappointing announcement.

As to GoW2, I enjoyed Gears particulalry the co-op... it's always more fun to play with others. That being said, the online community for GoW was, in my experience, awful. In addition to the community being bad and over run with glitchers. It was a broken experience (i.e. the host shotgun advantage, though I haven't played it in months so it may have been patched). I'm a lover of competitive online shooters too (currently I'm hooked on Team Fortress 2, thus the Demoman picture), but the GoW experience is just soured for me. I may pick it up in the distant future for some co-op fun, but that'll be about it.

PSU and FFXI are okay first steps like you said, but I agree completely that they're no where near the open world MMO that PC gamers have been enjoying. I think that the cancelled Marvel MMO has now become Champions Online, which is being developed for both PC and 360 by the same people who did City of Heroes/Villans... so that's promising news, assuming of course it's released.

Hopefully the Spring Update will give us a better hint too as to the direction MS is going. One rumor is that they may allow gamers the "option" of using harddrive space for a game install. Apparently, this will help with pop-ins (which honestly don't bother me too much) and would certainly help MMO developers.

Cheers all

RababaWinner

Ya, I really think Too Human's final kiss of death for the hardcore crowd was the announcement of 2 player co-op, I agree. I've heard that some of the previewers seeing the more recent builds have come away impressed, but the damage has been done.

I agree, Gears had some troublesome multiplayer... I was actually just playing it last night, though, and many of the problems have been fixed. I really think that the fact that Epic is willing to work hard to make the community happy (Free DLC, ongoing updates) is going to pay really strong dividends in Gears 2.

Very interesting but I have to disagree with a small portion.gatsbythepig

What do you disagree with?

Good thread.

After all the news out of Microsoft Gamer's Day, I'm really feeling better and better about my 360. The Fall is loaded with great titles and exclusives Fable 2, and Too Human haven't been mentioned yet on this thread, but I think they'll be console movers (Fable 2 at least). GoW2... athough honestly I don't know if I'm down for the Gears sequel. Fallout 3, Left 4 Dead, Dead Space aren't exclusives but they're going to be great and all 360 bound.

Additionally, the 360 will be seeing console exclusive rights to Age of Conan coming this Fall. My biggest hope is that MS is able to get some of its promised MMO content out (i.e. Age of Conan, Champions Online, the rumored Warhammer Online, and Huxley) I think these titles will help to make or break our beloved 360's over the next few years. If MS can get these kinds of titles running, and running smoothly, and overcome all the interface hurdles that come with a Console MMO then the 360 will have a bright future. Without this kind of expansion however, I'm afraid that MS will lose this generation's console wars if it's only able to successfully bring shooters (which are of amazing quality), racing and sports titles. MMO's and RPG's need to be better represented on the Green Machine, and I hope MS can make it all happen.

I'm hopefully optomisitc about the 360, another great innovation would be mouse/keyboard support for RTS titles, and the aforementioned MMO's. The system is great, stable, and Xbox Live is tremendous... though sadly not free. I don't know why MS won't make the minor additions it would take to be a more inclusive gaming platform. This is MS afterall, they've gotta get a mouse/keyboard in for this generation.

Cheers all.

RababaWinner

You have some interesting opinions...

First off, I really don't see Too Human moving consoles... it received too much hype early on, and now, regardless of where it's at, it's suffering from the inverse effect; people see it as a pretty weak-sauce title that's taken too long to come out.

I do agree with Fable 2 and Gears 2 moving consoles, though, as they are both key Microsoft franchises at this point... and why aren't you for a Gears sequel right now?

I see Microsoft struggeling to get more open-ended MMO's working on their console, as the Live is such a restricted service. Ya, I realize FFXI and PSU made it to the 360, but those haven't exactly been success' have they? No, it's gonna take something like Huxley, or (the now dead) Marvel MMO. I totally agree with you, as the MMO's really could shape Microsoft's future.