Conservatives: I'm all for solving x problem, but throwing money at it is not the answer.
Liberals: So how do you propose we solve it?
Conservatives: I dunno, something about bootstraps?
Same shit, different day.
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Conservative scam artist scams news outlet, no news there. At least since this is settled without a verdict CNN is probably not going to have a sentence rendered against them and other news outlets won't be frightened into not reporting events as they happen.
@Nuck81 said:
@mrbojangles25 said:
OMFG I love how offended and indignant they all looked. It's like they prepared themselves, looked in the mirror before going and said "I will take myself too serious and will not laugh" lol
Also I am loving the headlines in the news today. One of them read "Ricky Gervais get's political at the Golden Globes"....he didn't get political, he go anti-political.
@Nuck81 said:
When you realize that the Ricky Gervais bit about celebrities giving their opinions is coming from a celebrity that’s literally giving his opinion, then you’ll actually get the joke.
He is, yes, but he isn't really part of that crowd, that Hollywood Elite. You know, you get five celebrities together--Tom Hanks, Jennifer Anistion, Leonardo DiCaprio, Ricky Gervais, and Helen Mirren--it's pretty easy to pick out the one that is the most unlike the others (hint: it's Ricky Gervais).
IMO he is still a stand-up comedian that just transitioned to acting, that's it. There's no "joke's on you" irony to be had here.
@Xabiss said:
@KungfuKitten said:
I suppose it was all in jest and he doesn't really think these things otherwise he'd be a bigot, or at least alt-right, surely, for criticising the untouchables.
So now you are alt-right if you criticize Hollywood and left leaning CEOs. ROFLMAO you can make this shit up folks.
Yeah that's pretty funny if he thinks that.
Honestly Gervais is about as moderate as they come. No one wants to criticize the left except the right, but it's a breath of fresh air when a moderate or left-leaning person criticizes them.
Gervais is a super liberal.
He literally donates hundreds of thousands to animal rights groups, is a Vegan, and is a big proponent of Global Warming, supports assisted suicide, is a gay rights activist, and the list can go on on and on.
I follow him on Twitter, He is always political.
He was there to host the Golden Globes and tell Jokes. If you don't think he was doing a bit, then you're not fan, never seen his stand-up, and have no clue about his career.
Look at the British Office. The entire Series is based on the awkward, obvious, make you uncomfortable humor.
He also does as much producing and writing as he does acting. He's Hollywood Elite....
Edit... Aww man, I forgot probably his most defining characteristic, his unashamed, and aggressive Atheism. But yeah, he suddenly a MAGA hero....
Yes, but you forgot the foundational principle of American conservatism that Ricky Gervais honored with his speech: make fun of the people from the groups we don't like. Hollywood=bad, so someone mocking Hollywood=good. If he starts talking about atheism then conservatives will just start mocking him again, it's their go-to move.
@nintendoboy16 said:
@ad1x2 said:
@watercrack445 said:
People tweaking about World war 3 and about the draft that some people don't want to apply for FAFSA. The FAFSA government site is not even working anymore.
If people are stupid enough to think Trump can just reinstate the draft without Congressional approval then they probably don't need to waste the government's money in college anyway.
He ordered the strike without Congressional approval (the same congress that impeached his orange behind).
Oh, no, he informed Congressional Republicans. Very dangerous precedent, I can imagine the meltdown conservatives would've had if Obama had ordered a strike like this and only told Pelosi.
@redrichard said:
The US will lose just as it lost in Afghanistan and Iraq. Unitedstatesians are terrible at fighting.
Winning isn't the point, making money is. In Iraq we gave lucrative contracts to connected companies to rebuild the infrastructure we destroyed, we sold off state assets at a huge discount to connected firms, and we hired boatloads of private contractors in connected firms to do most of the fighting and logistics. The country didn't win, but the people waging the war sure did.
America invades Iraq on faulty premises, conservatives cheer.
Emboldened extremists in Iraq form ISIS, conservatives call for war.
Soleimani fights extremists in Iraq, conservatives call for his head.
Iraqi militias fight an occupying U.S. force, conservatives call them terrorists and use it as a justification for killing Soleimani.
How the military industrial complex retains legitimacy in spite of blatantly illegitimate actions.
@Damedius said:
@npiet1 said:
@Damedius said:
You gotta love American chutzpah.
Invading and occupying countries while claiming they are the victims.
It must suck living in a world where everyone hates you for your freedom.
So it's okay for them to attack the US but they can't attack them?
Are you serious?
How many nations has the US destroyed in the past 20 years?
Or as the propagandists like to call it "Spreading Democracy and Nation Building."
I remember when we were gearing up for war with Iraq, supposedly because of WMDs. Everyone with knowledge of the situation knew it was a lame excuse and thought the public would see through it, but about half the population just started parroting talking points about needing to invade cause 'Murica. Same shit, different day.
The conservative coverage of this would be hilarious if it wasn't such an important event.
Conservatives in 2003: Saddam Hussein is the biggest bad guy in the world, he needs to go!
Conservatives in 2011: ISIS represents an imminent threat to the entire free world!
Soleimani leads the fight against both Hussein and ISIS
Conservatives in 2020: Soleimani is the biggest bad guy in the world, he had to go!
Time to wake up to the bullshit, guys.
@nintendoboy16 said:
The Tweet
Article from Variety.
J.K. Rowling has sparked backlash after offering support to Maya Forstater, a researcher who lost her job after tweeting that a person cannot change their biological sex.
Rowling took to social media herself Thursday morning, writing, “Dress however you please. Call yourself whatever you like. Sleep with any consenting adult who’ll have you. Live your best life in peace and security. But force women out of their jobs for stating that sex is real? #IStandWithMaya #ThisIsNotADrill”
Rowling’s comments in support of Forstater, who was a visiting fellow at the Centre for Global Development, came after the researcher lost a court challenge against her termination at the CGD. According to the Guardian, Judge James Tayler ruled that Forstater’s termination was valid since her “absolutist” beliefs regarding biological sex includes referring to a person “by the sex she considered appropriate even if it violates their dignity and/or creates an intimidating, hostile, degrading, humiliating or offensive environment.”
Forstater’s initial tweet read, “What I am so surprised at is that smart people who I admire, who are absolutely pro-science in other areas, and champion human rights & womens rights are tying themselves in knots to avoid saying the truth that men cannot change into women (because that might hurt mens feelings).”
Rowling’s stance quickly received widespread criticism. The Human Rights Campaign, an LGBTQ advocacy group, were among the many who were vocal on social media to condemn Rowling’s position on the subject.
“Trans women are women. Trans men are men. Non-binary people are non-binary. CC: JK Rowling,” the company wrote on Twitter.
Casey McQuiston, author of the queer romance novel “Red, White and Royal Blue,” also offered support on social media to the LGBTQ community.
“Hi. breaking my hiatus real quick just to say: f— what your childhood heroes say. trans people are real. trans people deserve to be protected, recognized, supported, and loved. if that infringes on your idea of feminism, you’re not actually a feminist at all. you’re a bigot.”
I'll always love Harry Potter, but I'm officially separating her from it like my mom does Morrissey with the Smiths.
I've long accepted the fact that older liberals won't come around on a lot of social issues. It's sad for sure. It's really hard for me to see why someone like Rowling, who seems so accepting of disparate lifestyles, can come to the defense of someone who was clearly bullying other people because of theirs. Still, it doesn't surprise me. Don't trust anyone over forty, right?
@JimB said:
@theone86 said:
Doesn't matter if Trump isn't removed, he's going to go down as the worst president in history thanks to this. One of only three to be formally impeached, even Nixon had the sense to realize when he had lost and get out first.
I don't know if it matters whether or not he can get foreign governments to interfere. Between gerrymandering, vote suppression, voter purges, and the electoral college and Senate representing an insurmountable hurdle we're not likely to take power back any time soon. Best we can hope for in any case is the massive disapproval of him being enough to unseat so that we can at least stave off Republican's activist takeover of the Supreme Court (thanks to all the liberals who said that sending a message was more important than getting a Democrat in the White House, BTW).
Will foreign governments be able to meddle with impunity? Probably not. One of two things will happen. By some small miracle we'll claw the country back from Trump, start making government work again, and a large segment of Republicans will wake up and start realizing how batshit insane these last four years have been and resolve not to cross the lines that he crossed. Two is that Trump holds on and in his second term begins to drastically remake our government so that it better resembles Putin's Russia or Erdogan's Turkey. In that case he won't need election meddling anymore, he'll assert much more direct control over the voting process. Frankly, I'd argue that process of asserting direct control is already in motion and has been for a long time. Basically, we'll either create an environment that is free of meddling or we'll get dragged into one that doesn't require meddling to corrupt our voting system. But yeah, right now it looks like we're probably screwed. When he got elected I said that we had a nice democracy there for a couple hundred years and people scoffed at me. I'd rather not say I told you so, but...
Where do live, you can't be living in the United States to make the statements you made. Donald Trump has done more for this country on his own despite all the powers being used against him because he won an election. The Democrats and the media have been trying to impeach him before he was the Republican nominee. Lets see he has negotiated better trade deals for The United States, told the Europeans to pay their fair share to support NATO, opened negotiations with North Korea, got imprisoned American back from all over the planet with out having to pay airplane loads of cash to do it, rebuilt the military, defeated ISIS, Reduced taxes and restrictions to jump start the economy, criminal reform, seven million people off of food stamps, created seven million new jobs, brought back manufacturing that Obama said were lost and there was no magic wand to bring them back, Trump did. Yea go back to the good old days when politicians made deals to take care of everyone except the American citizens.
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Democrats have not been trying to impeach Trump since day one, in fact we've been avoiding it. Robert Mueller was all but telling Democrats that they should attempt to impeach him over his findings, and Democrats avoided it because they didn't want to be divisive. Instead of insulting us why don't you try to actually respond to the content of the letters of impeachment? Oh yeah, that's right, because trying to blackmail a foreign government into investigating your political opponents is completely indefensible.
Trump's trade deal is basically NAFTA. It's hilarious how he railed against NAFTA for so long, and then signed a deal that looked almost exactly the same. The only thing it really changes is protection for unions and workers' wages, and if enforcement of those clauses is as weak as it was for NAFTA (which is looking to be the case) then it won't make a difference anyway. By the way, those worker protection clauses weren't in the original draft that Trump negotiated and were included at the insistence of congressional Democrats. But yeah, sure, Trump's the one who cares about workers when he has to have worker protection clauses shoehorned into his trade deals by Democrats.
Trump's cutting NATO funding at a time when Russia is becoming increasingly aggressive towards NATO-aligned countries and you see that as a win? Just shows how delusional you are, and how blind you are to how detrimental the Putin-Trump relationship is to our foreign policy. And Trump opened a dialogue with North Korea, what did he do after that? Oh right, absolutely nothing. I guess we can give him a participation trophy for trying, right?
He didn't rebuild the military, he didn't defeat ISIS. You have to be pretty delusional to think he did anything to defeat ISIS when in fact he was reducing engagement. In fact, ISIS was pretty much driven back by Kurdish militias, who Trump abandoned to Turkey's authoritarian whims.
He didn't jump start the economy, the economy has been steadily increasing since President Obama's tenure. In fact, his tax cut (which primarily benefited the rich) took millions of dollars OUT of the economy and allowed wealthy individuals to stockpile it at a time when greater spending was needed. The economy might look great from the perspective of Wall Street, but people on main street are hurting like never before, and Trump has ignored them in favor of his corporate cronies. On the wasted recovery:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/we-squandered-major-economic-recovery-harvard-professor-142245851.html
He also hasn't brought back manufacturing, in fact manufacturing is struggling and experts think the sector might be headed for recession. And kicking seven million people off food stamps isn't an accomplishment, it's just plain cruel.
So yeah, everything you think you know about Trump is wrong. Stop getting your news from a Trump propaganda outlet.
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