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#1 theone86
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@sonicare said:

I've heard so many versions of what happened at this event. No idea what truly transpired. I guess it depends on who you believe. Both sides seem to have taken some massive liberties with the truth or "the truth".

Which I would be fine with, if it were just a he-said, she-said and at the end of the day everyone gets to go home. The problem is when they start bringing litigation against press outlets, specifically liberal press outlets (despite conservative press outlets reporting on the same event), specifically a liberal press outlet that has been targeted by the president, specifically when the president has advocated using libel laws to silence the press, and specifically with a fairly arbitrary amount of monetary damages that is very obviously being used to target and intimidate the owner of said press outlet.

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@Xabiss said:
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Polls and petitions are most of the time complete garbage. I agree with you on that.

Authoritarians don't believe in studies that measure popular support, now THERE'S a surprise!

Sorry I believe in constitutional republics. Again when you don't have an argument just make shit up. You have to be a liberal.

You're accusing me of just making shit up, and yet you're bringing up constitutional republics in a discussion that has literally nothing to do with them. Oh wait, I get it, the old "we're a constitutional republic, so we don't have to pay attention to what the majority actually wants" card you conjobs so love playing. Here's a hint genius, being a constitutional republic does not mean the democratic process doesn't matter, nor does it mean that public opinion can just be ignored. Thinking that it does exposes how much of an authoritarian you are.

RRRRRRRIIIIIIIGGGGGHHHHHHTTTTTTTT! *Eyeroll*

So you've got nothing? Which I guess is par for the course with you.

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@vl4d_l3nin said:
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Cool, because deliberately lying about kids isn't.

Shame if anyone loses their job over this. They could always learn to code, I guess.

Only they weren't deliberately lying, they were reporting on facts on the ground.

You're idea of "facts on the ground" was a race to the presses to get this story out when no one had the actual facts. They had clearly edited video. They also believed Phillips lie that he was approached by the boys, when the opposite was true and made no attempt to let the students give their side.

They absolutely did surround him, and they started chanting "MAGA" and "go back to Africa" at a group of black protestors unprovoked. Not to mention that there's video of them going around yelling at and harassing passerbys earlier in the day. This entire thing was a planned right-wing stunt designed to harass legitimate reporters and weaken press protections.

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@Xabiss said:
@theone86 said:
@vl4d_l3nin said:

Cool, because deliberately lying about kids isn't.

Shame if anyone loses their job over this. They could always learn to code, I guess.

Only they weren't deliberately lying, they were reporting on facts on the ground.

Facts on the ground.... ROFLMAO. All it would of taken is them watching the entire video one time and it would cleared up everything about the story.

Also remember when a CNN correspondent wrote this?

All I see are facts, that face is truly punchable.

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Her thing being triggering the conjobs? Yes, I agree, doing her thing quite well.

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@vl4d_l3nin said:

Cool, because deliberately lying about kids isn't.

Shame if anyone loses their job over this. They could always learn to code, I guess.

Only they weren't deliberately lying, they were reporting on facts on the ground.

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@Damedius said:
@jeezers said:

@leicam6: https://nypost.com/2020/01/04/inside-the-twisted-terrible-reign-of-iranian-general-qassem-soleimani/

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/us-isis-air-strikes-civilian-deaths-syria-iraq-america-no-idea-how-many-dead-the-uncounted-a8066266.html

https://theintercept.com/2018/11/19/civilian-casualties-us-war-on-terror/

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/26/opinion/yemen-united-states-united-nations.html

You demonise all the people you kill to justify the atrocities your country commits. It's why you have fewer and fewer allies with each passing day.

I remember in the lead-up to Iraq all anyone was talking about was how bad a guy Hussein was, no one was stopping to talk about whether or not it was a good idea to go to war with him. Same shit, different day.

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@Xabiss said:
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I was referring to the petition to ban water. You can phrase nearly any petition or poll in a manner that reinforces the beliefs of the person taking the poll. You can film a bunch of people answering a question and keep the responses you like to flesh out a narrative. This isn't new. But since you do not believe people actually do that, maybe we should believe all liberals think this way then? After all, a bunch of stupid answers were compiled into a video. Or do they only use clips of responses they like when it's somebody on the right who does it, but the left is always on the up and up?

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Polls and petitions are most of the time complete garbage. I agree with you on that.

Authoritarians don't believe in studies that measure popular support, now THERE'S a surprise!

Sorry I believe in constitutional republics. Again when you don't have an argument just make shit up. You have to be a liberal.

You're accusing me of just making shit up, and yet you're bringing up constitutional republics in a discussion that has literally nothing to do with them. Oh wait, I get it, the old "we're a constitutional republic, so we don't have to pay attention to what the majority actually wants" card you conjobs so love playing. Here's a hint genius, being a constitutional republic does not mean the democratic process doesn't matter, nor does it mean that public opinion can just be ignored. Thinking that it does exposes how much of an authoritarian you are.

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@Xabiss said:
@ulfrinn said:

I was referring to the petition to ban water. You can phrase nearly any petition or poll in a manner that reinforces the beliefs of the person taking the poll. You can film a bunch of people answering a question and keep the responses you like to flesh out a narrative. This isn't new. But since you do not believe people actually do that, maybe we should believe all liberals think this way then? After all, a bunch of stupid answers were compiled into a video. Or do they only use clips of responses they like when it's somebody on the right who does it, but the left is always on the up and up?

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Polls and petitions are most of the time complete garbage. I agree with you on that.

Authoritarians don't believe in studies that measure popular support, now THERE'S a surprise!

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@nintendoboy16 said:
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People tweaking about World war 3 and about the draft that some people don't want to apply for FAFSA. The FAFSA government site is not even working anymore.

If people are stupid enough to think Trump can just reinstate the draft without Congressional approval then they probably don't need to waste the government's money in college anyway.

He ordered the strike without Congressional approval (the same congress that impeached his orange behind).

Oh, no, he informed Congressional Republicans. Very dangerous precedent, I can imagine the meltdown conservatives would've had if Obama had ordered a strike like this and only told Pelosi.

Maybe, but it's still not majority support.

It's worse than not telling Congress at all. It's inflaming partisan tensions and setting a precedent for only involving Congress when you know you can get your way.