Ok you dont believe huh?
The Athlon X4 620 got 73 fps in farcry 2 while the phenom 2 965 got 90 all at 1280x800, then with L4D Athlon got 104 fps when the phenom got 150 fps at 1280x800 with a GTX 260. No difference?04dcarraher

Then you have to take in account the 5850 and GTX 460 arent all that much faster then each other only averaging 12 fps difference. So take the average you would see the Phenom 2 and GTX 460 performing as well or even better then the Athlon 5850 combo just because the Athlon is holding the 5850 back.04dcarraher

So even with Athlon II X4 and a 5850 , A Phenom 2 with a GTX 460 would match or outperform , just because the cpu. 04dcarraher

You have to look ahead too, The psu requirements for the 5850 is 500w, the 5850 needs two 6pin pci-e power which means that the 5850 can draw as much as 225w just from the 12v rail when at 100% use and then you have cpu etc drawing power too, With a 430w you would be drawing at full load over 80% of the 12v rail. The longer and harder the psu has to supply power the shorter the life.04dcarraher

I wouldnt even bother with that, crappy case, not big enough psu, and slower cpu.04dcarraher

Thats not fair. So funny yet makes me so angry. Well at least I'm contributing.warownslife