@deathstream It's not actually that much of a grind.. You play a series of around 7 challenges to unlock each new golfer/course.. The only Grind is if you wish to buy the kit packs.. and of those, only the top-tier takes more than 3-4 challenges to earn for (more if you are really bad at the game!)

@murekkep This one really is a quality game.... Makes up for not having Resogun!

Ultimately I think this game would have more playability than resogun would have had.. but I would have liked the chance to find out! :-)

@thom_maytees A different type of game.. I'd probably give it an 8/10.. very good golf game and lots of fun to play.

@thanxforplayin Yes, the Rivals part of the game allows you to compete against your friends best rounds on a particular course.. but also having online multi-player could only add to this experience.

@ScreamDream I don't agree... it's geared towards making you choose if you want to chance buying a lesser value pack (and maybe getting higher value kit), or waiting a long time to get your extreme cards..

I think it's an absolute blast and the randomness is just like a game of golf.. ranging from disappointment to delight at getting better equipment.

I don't think this game will suffer from allowing people to buy packs.. because he results will be just as random.

All-in-all a really fun game.

@Aaron3691 They're not even on my radar. I don't remember ever seeing one of their stores.. are they nationwide? If they keep in the news I might keep an eye out for them.

I wish there was a way to turn off the facebook headless zombie comments.

@A_Rabid_Dog @RicanV Why not just download it?

@RicanV It looks fantastic.. and what a great idea about representing a wrap-around map on a cylinder (I just love how it 's been done).. but I feel, like defender, it would be a game I'd want to love, but ultimately find dull after an hour or so. I do wish it was coming to the Xbox One so I could give it a try though!

@Red_hot_smasher @viperdesmith In fact the iPhone is a miniature iPad with a phone added. You know that iOS was designed for tablets right? Even though it came out first on their phone.

The principle innovation of the iPad was iOS. When I heard that Apple was going to make another table.. I was thinking it would be another failed mac/windows style tablet. When I heard they were going to use iOS on it, I immediately changed my whole opinion of the device. Add to that the price point.. which was about half of what current tablets were on the market for (even more amazing because of Apples inflated pricing strategy).

So it really is an example of doing something that now looks obvious, but was a huge risk at the time. Everything they brought together wasn't innovative in itself at the time.. but the combination is an absolute winner.

Google reacted quickly. They bought software that was being designed for cameras and adapted it to their own devices and Android was born very quickly.

So some people defend Apple because they understand the innovation that has sprouted a whole new genre of smartphones and tablets.