[QUOTE="conceru3"]

By your logic, Crysis is only 0.1 generations ahead of Gothic 3 also, what does it have more ???

Lighting ? no, lighting in Crysis is only as good as in Fable 2 ... with fully dunamic 3d definedshadows casted everywhere, and light beams, what more does Crysis have ? Gothic 3 trumps it, and crysis has as much HDR as Fable 2 shows in that city, no more,so gothic 3 kills it again ...

Trees ? Well Crysis has fully 3D trees (some of them), like Fable 2 does, Gothic 3 faked speedtreee trees destroy them in look and lighting

So, you concluded that Crysis is only 0.2 generations leap from Gothic 3 yourself, nice try

zaigham

I do not know who nasos is, but clearly you try to get a grasp here from something !!!!

I wonder why your only argument is that i am someone that as i get it is a fable lover ?

I just point out that i have NEVER seen graphics like those, Crysis looks mediocre in comparisson, it uses the same effects BUT they are not evident as much or as good in art style

Here are all the arguments killed

Crysis has much better textures than Gothic3 , Fable2 does not

Has one more year to ne made properly, and in fact textures in that town kill anything on Gothic 3

Crysis has much better draw-distance than than Gothic3 , Fable2 does not

You do not know that AT ALL .... probably will have enough draw distanceto not notice any problems

Crysis has couple times more dense enviorements than Gothic3 , Fable2 does not

And you know how exactly ? The only filled place we got to see is that forest, that frankly seem more dense than ANY forest i have seen in Crysis, with far better looking trees as well

Crysis character models look couple times better than Gothic3 , Fable2 ones look better, but nowhere near crysis quality, they're much closer to Gothic3 or Oblivion quality

I agree about characters, will never reach any amazing level in Fable, mainly because of art **** monsters s another thing though, in fact check Mass Effect mosnters, look better than anything Crysis has doen so far

Crysis has much better lighting than Gothic3 and even better than Fable2, so the only big advantage Fable2 has over G3 is even bigger with Crysis

No, Crysis has SAME lighting model as Fable 2 (ambience, light beams, haze, HDR, proper shadows etc etc), and i did not see proper shadows from EVERY FLOWER in Crysis,so in fact it is BEHIND Fable 2 in lighting, the shadows from every leaf are not as good also, as for Gothic it is YEARS and MILES behind both, are you EVEN SERIOUS about that ? Light haze, neams and ambience is also done better than Crfysis, they are far more evident and stunning !!! In comparisson Gothic 3 has absolutly no lighting at all .....

Crysis has every object in gameworld physics-based and destructable, Fable2 does not.

All leaves sway in the wind, might be scripted but WHO CARES ? The effect is there

so yeah...Fable2 looks like 0.2 upgrade over Gothic3, crysis in dx10 looks more or less like a 1.0 upgrade over Gothic3, so I guess I was a bit wrong, crysis looks like 0.8 generation ahead of fable2

So, i proved you wrong, even for this VERY early Fable 2 version, Crysis has nothing on it bar the huge distances that renders stuff

[QUOTE="conceru3"]

By your logic, Crysis is only 0.1 generations ahead of Gothic 3 also, what does it have more ???

Lighting ? no, lighting in Crysis is only as good as in Fable 2 ... with fully dunamic 3d definedshadows casted everywhere, and light beams, what more does Crysis have ? Gothic 3 trumps it, and crysis has as much HDR as Fable 2 shows in that city, no more,so gothic 3 kills it again ...

Trees ? Well Crysis has fully 3D trees (some of them), like Fable 2 does, Gothic 3 faked speedtreee trees destroy them in look and lighting

So, you concluded that Crysis is only 0.2 generations leap from Gothic 3 yourself, nice try

AdrianWerner

Has one more year to ne made properly, and in fact textures in that town kill anything on Gothic 3

Crysis has much better draw-distance than than Gothic3 , Fable2 does not

You do not know that AT ALL .... probably will have enough draw distanceto not notice any problems

Crysis has couple times more dense enviorements than Gothic3 , Fable2 does not

And you know how exactly ? The only filled place we got to see is that forest, that frankly seem more dense than ANY forest i have seen in Crysis, with far better looking trees as well

Crysis character models look couple times better than Gothic3 , Fable2 ones look better, but nowhere near crysis quality, they're much closer to Gothic3 or Oblivion quality

I agree about characters, will never reach any amazing level in Fable, mainly because of art **** monsters s another thing though, in fact check Mass Effect mosnters, look better than anything Crysis has doen so far

Crysis has much better lighting than Gothic3 and even better than Fable2, so the only big advantage Fable2 has over G3 is even bigger with Crysis

No, Crysis has SAME lighting model as Fable 2 (ambience, light beams, haze, HDR, proper shadows etc etc), and i did not see proper shadows from EVERY FLOWER in Crysis,so in fact it is BEHIND Fable 2 in lighting, the shadows from every leaf are not as good also, as for Gothic it is YEARS and MILES behind both, are you EVEN SERIOUS about that ? Light haze, neams and ambience is also done better than Crfysis, they are far more evident and stunning !!! In comparisson Gothic 3 has absolutly no lighting at all .....

Crysis has every object in gameworld physics-based and destructable, Fable2 does not.

All leaves sway in the wind, might be scripted but WHO CARES ? The effect is there

so yeah...Fable2 looks like 0.2 upgrade over Gothic3, crysis in dx10 looks more or less like a 1.0 upgrade over Gothic3, so I guess I was a bit wrong, crysis looks like 0.8 generation ahead of fable2 :D

So, i proved you wrong, even for this VERY early Fable 2 version, Crysis has nothing on it bar the huge distances that renders stuff

*prays its not a pathway game again*Kook18

You have NEVER played any JRPG then ??? Bad for you... still this game will be huge, confirmed, each level is 10x or more the original Fable levels

Test level - WIP. Arnt these really old to. I dont think we know what the game is acualy goin to look like at retail build. I think the 360 has allready bettered this.Marka1700

Actually the forest in that GDC trailer looks million of times better than anything i have ever seen, just do not have a pic of it :(

And yes those graphics will see a HUGE upgrade until release in a year

Please use this list, i cut all non exlcuisves

Ok then, here is a "best exclusives" comparisson

1) metal gear solid 4

- Splinter Cell 5, MGS4 might come to 360 too !!!

2) gran turismo HD 5

- Forza, Flatout Carnage exclusives on 360

3) final fantasy 13

- Lost Odyssey, Fable 2 (Fable sold 2.6 million copies on xbox), FF13 is coming to 360 too, confirmed by ... Sony themselves, they said it is NOT PS3 exclusive !!!

4) killzone 2/3

- Geras of War 2-3, Precursors, Halo 3 !!!! Project Offset, Warhounds

5) afrika

- Viva Pinata 1-2, Kameo

6) getaway 3

- Crackdown

7) white knight story

- Blue Dragon 1-2, Eternal Sonata, Cry On, Infinite Undiscovery

heavenly sword

- Circle of Doom

9) eight days

- Alan Wake, Theseis

10) railfan

- Thank god nothing like that on 360

11) ninja gaiden sigma

- Ninja Gaiden 2 !!!, other Team ninja games like Project Cronos/Progressive

12) Uncharted: Drakes Fortune

- Mass Effect, the other Bioware project, the next Lionhead project all confirmed, Dragon Age most probably from pc

13) Lair

- Ace Combat 6

14) Coded Arms: Assault

- Lost Planet

15) Eyedentify

- What is that ?

16) Fifth Phantom Saga

- Too Human, Fallout 3

17) Monster Kingdom

- Elveon, Overlord, Two Worlds, Sacred 2, Kotor 3

1Ratchet and Clank 5

- Banjo

19) Warhawk

- Nothing but still

The game's graphics totally kill anything else, bar the vast spaces of Crysis that can;t do due to ram limitations, but is on par with Crysis in every other respect and the art kills that game really

Also it has still a HUGE way to go, and Peter said those graphics were ... thier worst !!!

here is a small taste

Notice ....

1. The HDR in town !!! The amazing textures and detail in models

2. The shadows that are fully dynamic, from every tree leaf to every grass blade, even flowers cast a proper shadow !!!

3. The GDC trailer shows THE best forest i have ever seen, filledwith grass, shadows playing on grass from trees, and on      rock formations, light filtered in BEAMS thought trees

4. Trees are fully 3D and properly lit, unlike the terrible speedtree trees, that cast a generic blures shadow

conceru , you clearly don't know what an exclusive is ....lol.

 

Nike_Air

Ok then, here is a "best exclusives" comparisson

1) metal gear solid 4

- Splinter Cell 5, MGS4 might come to 360 too !!!

2) gran turismo HD 5

- Forza, Flatout Carnage exclusives on 360

3) final fantasy 13

- Lost Odyssey, Fable 2 (Fable sold 2.6 million copies on xbox), FF13 is coming to 360 too, confirmed by ... Sony themselves, they said it is NOT PS3 exclusive !!!

4) killzone 2/3

- Geras of War 2-3, Precursors, Halo 3 !!!! Project Offset, Warhounds

5) afrika

- Viva Pinata 1-2, Kameo

6) getaway 3

- Crackdown

7) white knight story

- Blue Dragon 1-2, Eternal Sonata, Cry On, Infinite Undiscovery

heavenly sword

- Circle of Doom

9) eight days

- Alan Wake, Theseis

10) railfan

- Thank god nothing like that on 360

11) ninja gaiden sigma

- Ninja Gaiden 2 !!!, other Team ninja games like Project Cronos/Progressive

12) Uncharted: Drakes Fortune

- Mass Effect, the other Bioware project, the next Lionhead project all confirmed, Dragon Age most probably from pc

13) Lair

- Ace Combat 6

14) Coded Arms: Assault

- Lost Planet

15) Eyedentify

- What is that ?

16) Fifth Phantom Saga

- Too Human, Fallout 3

17) Monster Kingdom

- Elveon, Overlord, Two Worlds, Sacred 2, Kotor 3

1Ratchet and Clank 5

- Banjo

19) Warhawk

- Nothing but still

See the above ARE exlcusive untill proven otherwise !!!

By your logic, Crysis is only 0.1 generations ahead of Gothic 3 also, what does it have more ???

Lighting ? no, lighting in Crysis is only as good as in Fable 2 ... with fully dunamic 3d definedshadows casted everywhere, and light beams, what more does Crysis have ? Gothic 3 trumps it, and crysis has as much HDR as Fable 2 shows in that city, no more,so gothic 3 kills it again ...

Trees ? Well Crysis has fully 3D trees (some of them), like Fable 2 does, Gothic 3 faked speedtreee trees destroy them in look and lighting

So, you concluded that Crysis is only 0.2 generations leap from Gothic 3 yourself, nice try

Right ... keep dreaming, i really do no want to wake you up !!!

Frankly now, those Gothic 3 pics look better in art than Crysis, i have bought the damn game but my Ti4400 won't start it :(