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#1 conceru3
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Ok, then, if you HAVE seen the video, you clearly know that Gothic 3 is two generations behind, right ? Answer me that so i can go on about ...

- How shadows fall from each leaf down to the ground, on every grass blade, making some grass areas look lit and some in shadow, but the overall lighting is far better in art than Crysis, making this look even better and clear as a visual effect

- How each leaf sway in the wind, and rock formations cast their own shadow on that grass, that covers the ground more fully than ANYTHING i have seen in Crysis

- How speedtree trees/shadows look like total GARBAGE comparing to real 3D trees, properly lit and shadowedAdrianWerner

to me it looked like Gothic3 with better lighting. Yeah...trees are better in Fable2, on the other hand there's few of them compared to Gothic3. the textures also looked inferior in Fable2, the same with draw-distance. So definitly not even a generation behind.
On the other hand Crysis trees looked better, the same with grass, they moved more realisticaly, the draw-distance in Crysis is about 50 times bigger, the areas are more dense. The lighting also seemed much more advanced in crysis. So far Fable looks like something a 0.2 generation ahead of Gothic3 and at least a generation behind Crysis if not more. In the end after the promised improvements Fable2 should be mid-way between Gothic3 and Crysis. It looks nice, but techicaly it's very primitive compared to crysis. Now you might like Fable2 art more, but that's a simple opinion, your own personal taste, from techical stand point Fable2 is a joke compared to Crysis. The diffrence is so big that I think you're fake boying or trolling, or both. Because nobody serious could claim what you claim

You call those .....0.2 generations above Gothic 3 ??? more like 2 !!!








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#2 conceru3
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What did i tell you ??? DO NOT MAKE A FOOL of yourself, you are watching the barren region when Peter first start talking, you CLEARLY REFUSE to admit you have not seen the ...FOREST !!!

AdrianWerner

 

I'm talking about the vid where he shows the city and then at the end a montage of scenes from the world, mostly from the forests and he says that he's less happy with how it looks( considering how it does it's no supririse) 

Ok, then, if you HAVE seen the video, you clearly know that Gothic 3 is two generations behind, right ? Answer me that so i can go on about  ...

- How shadows fall from each leaf down to the ground, on every grass blade, making some grass areas look lit and some in shadow, but the overall lighting is far better in art than Crysis, making this look even better and clear as a visual effect

- How each leaf sway in the wind, and rock formations cast their own shadow on that grass, that covers the ground more fully than ANYTHING i have seen in Crysis

- How speedtree trees/shadows look like total GARBAGE comparing to real 3D trees, properly lit and shadowed

etc etc

And keep in mind, this game is SO EARLY yet, imagine what happens until it is released !!!!

BTW i forgot, does Gothic have light beams when you watch the sun through structures ? Or even proper HDR ?

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Hahahaha barren ? You CLEARLY made a fool of yourself now, even Fable was one of the most fully covered with trees/grass game,AdrianWerner

by last gen standarts it was, by modern standarts set by Oblivion and Gothic3 both Fable and Fable2 look barren in comparision

and you CLEARLY have not seen the END of Peter speach videoconceru3

Actualy I did and it did look barren, awful fog in the distance and compared to Gothic3 barren levels(cities that consist almost solely of only buildings, forests with little weak-looking grass and with few other plants and compared to Gothic3 with noticably smaller tree density

I will give you a chance to redeem that blasphemy, and not look like a total fool next time you post, but if you DID see the video of the FOREST, you would know the whole forest bed was covered with grass, that receives SHADOWS from trees in a far more spectacular way than Crysis ever would, and is full of trees around, REAL 3D ones tooconceru3

Fable2 forest looked more or less how I expect cRYSIS to look on medium settings and with draw-distance set to lowest. Crysis forests look like they have about 5 times more objects in them and they all move realisticaly, compared to drab empty and static Fable2 forests crysis clearly wins, even in lighting.

At this point you must be the most OWNED person in all system warsconceru3

I think you've secured that title for yourself when you claimed Fable2 looks better than Crysis

What did i tell you ??? DO NOT MAKE A FOOL of yourself, you are watching the barren region when Peter first start talking, you CLEARLY REFUSE to admit you have not seen the ...FOREST !!!

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[QUOTE="conceru3"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"][QUOTE="hazuki"][QUOTE="conceru3"]

[QUOTE="fatzombiepigeon"]Crysis>>>>>>>Everything. Ever. Best physics and AI as well.AdrianWerner

Crysis is a mere shooter though, Bioshock and Mass Effect are FAR from that, and Fable 2 has way better graphics than Crysis, although environments will be smaller

Fable 2, looking better than crysis? Lmao. Yeah the gdc demo looked good, but its no crysis. It looks more like a better oblivion than anything. 

yeah, it looked to me like Gothic3, only with better draw-distance and slightly better character models, looked nice, but NOWHERE near Crysis, even dx9 Crysis 

Then you are blind, has Gothic 3 got such AMAZING shadows ? Not in your dreams ? Light beams ? Really 3D trees ? Maybe it has NEXT GEN lighting ??? Not in your dreams again, Gothic 3 is generations behind Fable 2 graphics, you will get over it in time

And i am comparing with this version, that Peter confirmed looks like crap comparing to what the game will look eventually

not really, Fable2 levels looked very barren compared to Gothic3 ones, textures were also worse in Fable2, not to mention weak draw-distance(altough at least it doesn't load models in the distance I guess) and much less vegetation. The only things really better were character models and lighting. Fable2 does look nice and I'm sure it will improve, but so far it looks at least a generation or two behind crysis in dx10.  

Hahahaha barren ? You CLEARLY made a fool of yourself now, even Fable was one of the most fully covered with trees/grass game, and you CLEARLY have not seen the END of Peter speach video

I will give you a chance to redeem that blasphemy, and not look like a total fool next time you post, but if you DID see the video of the FOREST, you would know the whole forest bed was covered with grass, that receives SHADOWS from trees in a far more spectacular way than Crysis ever would, and is full of trees around, REAL 3D ones too

At this point you must be the most OWNED person in all system wars, see the video, apologize and you will be forgotten :)

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Bioshock = Best Artistic

Crysis = Best Technical 

solidte

Fable 2 = Very best of the two worlds combined !!!

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#6 conceru3
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Hi

 Which console has more exclusives ? Good and famous exclusive like halo3,MGS4

Please make a list like this

PS3 Exclusives :

1-

2-

blah blah

and xbox360 either

Thanx

Ds-Crhome

For every PS3 games there are 5 on 360, better too ,and PS3 ones are coming to 360 as well ...... like FF13 !!!

1) metal gear solid 4

- Splinter Cell 5, MGS4 might come to 360 too !!!

2) gran turismo HD 5

- Colin MacRae FIRST on 360, Forza, Flatout Carnage exclusives on 360

3) final fantasy 13

- Lost Odyssey, Fable 2 (Fable sold 2.6 million copies on xbox), FF13 is coming to 360 too, confirmed by ... Sony themselves, they said it is NOT PS3 exclusive !!!

4) killzone 2/3

- Geras of War 2-3, Precursors, Halo 3 !!!! Project Offset, Warhounds

5) afrika

- Viva Pinata 1-2, Kameo

6) getaway 3

- GTA4

7) white knight story

- Blue Dragon 1-2, Eternal Sonata, Cry On, Infinite Undiscovery

heavenly sword

- Circle of Doom

9) eight days

- Alan Wake, Theseis, Assasins Creed, Resident Evil 5, Heavy Rain

10) railfan

- Thank god nothing like that on 360

11) ninja gaiden sigma

- Ninja Gaiden 2 !!!, other Team ninja games like Project Cronos/Progressive

12) Uncharted: Drakes Fortune

- Mass Effect, the other Bioware project, the next Lionhead project all confirmed, Dragon Age most probably from pc

13) Lair

- Ace Combat 6

14) Coded Arms: Assault

- Lost Planet

15) Eyedentify

- What is that ?

16) Fifth Phantom Saga

- Too Human, Fallout 3

17) Monster Kingdom

- Elveon, Overlord, Two Worlds, Sacred 2, Kotor 3

1Ratchet and Clank 5

- Banjo

19) Warhawk

- Nothing but still

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[QUOTE="hazuki"][QUOTE="conceru3"]

[QUOTE="fatzombiepigeon"]Crysis>>>>>>>Everything. Ever. Best physics and AI as well.AdrianWerner

Crysis is a mere shooter though, Bioshock and Mass Effect are FAR from that, and Fable 2 has way better graphics than Crysis, although environments will be smaller

Fable 2, looking better than crysis? Lmao. Yeah the gdc demo looked good, but its no crysis. It looks more like a better oblivion than anything. 

yeah, it looked to me like Gothic3, only with better draw-distance and slightly better character models, looked nice, but NOWHERE near Crysis, even dx9 Crysis 

Then you are blind, has Gothic 3 got such AMAZING shadows ? Not in your dreams ? Light beams ? Really 3D trees ? Maybe it has NEXT GEN lighting ??? Not in your dreams again, Gothic 3 is generations behind Fable 2 graphics, you will get over it in time

And i am comparing with this version, that Peter confirmed looks like crap comparing to what the game will look eventually

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[QUOTE="asmallchild"][QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]I'm anticipating Bioshock and Halo 3 as much as the next guy, but don't pretend the PS3 won't have games by the time those are released.asmallchild

Agreed.

Yes PS3 will have ...some ... games but point is those like Lair or Heavely Sword will be 100 classes below games like Bioshock or Mass Effect or even Eternal Sonata and Blue Dragon it is like comparing Dynasty Warriors to Final Fantasy

If that's the way you feel, then just play your Xbox360. The question was "What will PS3 fans play?" There's the answer. Fanboys nowadays :roll:

The below, i agree

For every PS3 games there are 5 on 360, better too ,and PS3 ones are coming to 360 as well ...... like FF13 !!!

1) metal gear solid 4

- Splinter Cell 5, MGS4 might come to 360 too !!!

2) gran turismo HD 5

- Colin MacRae FIRST on 360, Forza, Flatout Carnage exclusives on 360

3) final fantasy 13

- Lost Odyssey, Fable 2 (Fable sold 2.6 million copies on xbox), FF13 is coming to 360 too, confirmed by ... Sony themselves, they said it is NOT PS3 exclusive !!!

4) killzone 2/3

- Geras of War 2-3, Precursors, Halo 3 !!!! Project Offset, Warhounds

5) afrika

- Viva Pinata 1-2, Kameo

6) getaway 3

- GTA4

7) white knight story

- Blue Dragon 1-2, Eternal Sonata, Cry On, Infinite Undiscovery

heavenly sword

- Circle of Doom

9) eight days

- Alan Wake, Theseis, Assasins Creed, Resident Evil 5, Heavy Rain

10) railfan

- Thank god nothing like that on 360

11) ninja gaiden sigma

- Ninja Gaiden 2 !!!, other Team ninja games like Project Cronos/Progressive

12) Uncharted: Drakes Fortune

- Mass Effect, the other Bioware project, the next Lionhead project all confirmed, Dragon Age most probably from pc

13) Lair

- Ace Combat 6

14) Coded Arms: Assault

- Lost Planet

15) Eyedentify

- What is that ?

16) Fifth Phantom Saga

- Too Human, Fallout 3

17) Monster Kingdom

- Elveon, Overlord, Two Worlds, Sacred 2, Kotor 3

1Ratchet and Clank 5

- Banjo

19) Warhawk

- Nothing but still

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#9 conceru3
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They've yet to prove that Mass Effect doesn't look any better... They just said, oh bad screenshots... But that still means that there are graphics like that in the game. Mass Effect will probably be a great game, and it's one game that makes me wish I had a Xbox 360, but that post proves nothing.

Skippyj9

New pic shows ALL old pics are valid, new ones not polished, simple as that, OXM CONFIRMS too that all pics are valid

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#10 conceru3
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[QUOTE="sdifjds"]Why doen't it look like thisproject343
It does look like that. :? Actually, the character models look better in the recent screenshot; however, unfortunatly it's in an enclosed environment, so you don't get that "wow" from the sense of scale which makes Mass Effect's visuals so impressive in the first place.

Simply put, no good light sources in that pic, hopefully they CAN take a better one, jesus, one OUTSIDE for a change

 

Though we do have one outside WITH hud, so this thread is totally pointless by now