$100 for 20GB HDD, $180 for 120GB HDD, Wifi Adapter for $100, $40 for 64MB Card, $60 for Headset, $20 for Faceplate and more milkage.

seriously, why are they so expensive? $180 for 120GB HDD? I can get a 320GB SATA HDD for my PS3.

and how come X360 has so many add-ons and accessories. I'm sure some lemmings have purchased these accessories but will never admit it.  lemmings have definitely spent more on their console than cows.

xxThyLordxx

300$, that's all, maybe another 20$ for a MU

Sorry if old but according to rumours Nintendo may be producing a secret HD Wii with up to 1080i resolution, a 160GB HDD and the capability to upscale DVDs to 1080i. I find this highly unlikely just because it seems odd. Plus alot of the current owners would be mad beyond explanation. What do you think?

Heres the url:http://n4g.com/wii/News-33095.aspx
If someone could link it it would be greatly appreciated.

Discuss!d_eM_s

no happening, you can't even start to imagine what owners of the ..non HD wii would do in reaction, probably all old Wii's sold, and noone ever buy one again

[QUOTE="conceru3"]There is a HUGE video of Peter talking from GDC, AND in the last few seconds a trailer showing a FULL ON HUGE forest, full of grass in the ground, and trees really 3D looking, as for the art, amkes Crysis jusngles seem like a JOKE, and shadows are far better too, just check it, the lighting/light beams seem totally DX10 too, and the ambient lighting is PERFECT, never see totally black spots, as in real life (unless you arein a cave or something)

Also before that trailer, the new trees shown are STUNNING, every leaf is modeled and sways in the wind !!! Casts a shadows too, on grass and characters

Simply put, Fable 2 even in thise unfinisehd form impressed be more by MILES than CrysisBansheesdie

You need to watch that video again, and yes I have seen it. I'm also very very much looking forward to Fable 2. But! All of that was graphics that Molyneux said were terrible and deffiantly be eons better. Better then Oblivion by a good sized leap and bound in the end.

HOWEVER! They will not be better then Crysis because of DX10, because of the hardware that Crysis will be running on. Fable 2 will be outstanding, and much better then the first and TLC combined x2. But Crysis's graphics are eons better.

You do forget one MAIN factor, Crysis does graphcis on a HUGE level, when 360 has to render far less stuff on screen at once,meaning much more can be done even with 360 lower power

That does NOT mean that 360 beats pc, if Crysis engine used all its power on a 8800GTX to make a Fable 2 level, would probably look better than on 360, or at least comparable

Also i highly doubt that kind of graphics could get far better, it easilly DESTROYS any other game in any next gen console by a HUGE margin, those shadows/light beams/ lighting/ detail is simply outstanding for ANY other game i have seen, yes even MAss Effect looks like a joke comparing

Then, after Wii wins, we can all buy a pc, and enjoy amazing graphics, since console gaming will have been destroyed forever

[QUOTE="conceru3"]

You wish, the grass is better, the shadows better or maybe comparable, the lighting simply far better on Fable 2, the trees MILES better, are REALLY 3D, not flat textures of Crysis trees, the light beams comparable, texturing a bit better in PC, but it is very early still, Crysis is almost out, Fable 2 has 1-1.5 year more work to be ready

And as a GAME and ART and GAMEPLAY go, Fable 2 kills most "next gen" rehashes and mindless shooters like this

Teufelhuhn

There is a HUGE video of Peter talking from GDC, AND in the last few seconds a trailer showing a FULL ON HUGE forest, full of grass in the ground, and trees really 3D looking, as for the art, amkes Crysis jusngles seem like a JOKE, and shadows are far better too, just check it, the lighting/light beams seem totally DX10 too, and the ambient lighting is PERFECT, never see totally black spots, as in real life (unless you arein a cave or something)

Also before that trailer, the new trees shown are STUNNING, every leaf is modeled and sways in the wind !!! Casts a shadows too, on grass and characters

Simply put, Fable 2 even in thise unfinisehd form impressed be more by MILES than Crysis

Have you never seen a video of Crysis?  You can shoot the individual leaves off trees.  And the way you make shadows sound like a big deal...you have to be joking around. 

See the video first, do not make a fool of yourself, shadows when artistically are AMAZING, do add hugly to the fairy tale atmosphere of Fable

And no, you can't shoot individual leaves, just the flat polygon that has the leaves texture, not that in Fable each leaf will be modeled one by one, but it does look far better, and with far more polygons per tree

On the other side, Crysis does what it does on a HUGE scale, meaning 360 would die if it tried to do Crysis, but Fable 2 is what i want to play, Crysis just what i would like to see, maybe when pc prices drop 200%

[QUOTE="viper7721"]Talk about delusional.i_like_pizza

Why is that delusional?  The 360 has only managed to sell slightly over 10 million consoles worldwide in a year and a half since its launch through two holiday seasons.  The door is wide open.  The 360 has not proven itself to be a sales powerhouse in the slightest.  Halo didn't make a huge difference the first time, and it won't make a huge difference the second time.

PS3 is not selling too though, and European sales will take a hug fall, like US ones, even in Japan Wii kills it totally, and 360 games sell FAR better

Just in, in the new OXM it is CONFIRMD that MAss Effect is looking EVERY BIT as good as the pics we have seen !!!!!

Can ... you ...spell ...... OWNAGE !!!

[QUOTE="conceru3"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="conceru3"]

...and Fable 2 has way better graphics than Crysis, although environments will be smaller

Bansheesdie

You're kidding.

You wish, the grass is better, the shadows better or maybe comparable, the lighting simply far better on Fable 2, the trees MILES better, are REALLY 3D, not flat textures of Crysis trees, the light beams comparable, texturing a bit better in PC, but it is very early still, Crysis is almost out, Fable 2 has 1-1.5 year more work to be ready

And as a GAME and ART and GAMEPLAY go, Fable 2 kills most "next gen" rehashes and mindless shooters like this

There is a HUGE video of Peter talking from GDC, AND in the last few seconds a trailer showing a FULL ON HUGE forest, full of grass in the ground, and trees really 3D looking, as for the art, amkes Crysis jusngles seem like a JOKE, and shadows are far better too, just check it, the lighting/light beams seem totally DX10 too, and the ambient lighting is PERFECT, never see totally black spots, as in real life (unless you arein a cave or something)

Also before that trailer, the new trees shown are STUNNING, every leaf is modeled and sways in the wind !!! Casts a shadows too, on grass and characters

Simply put, Fable 2 even in thise unfinisehd form impressed be more by MILES than Crysis

[QUOTE="conceru3"]

...and Fable 2 has way better graphics than Crysis, although environments will be smaller

Teufelhuhn

You're kidding.

You wish, the grass is better, the shadows better or maybe comparable, the lighting simply far better on Fable 2, the trees MILES better, are REALLY 3D, not flat textures of Crysis trees, the light beams comparable, texturing a bit better in PC, but it is very early still, Crysis is almost out, Fable 2 has 1-1.5 year more work to be ready

And as a GAME and ART and GAMEPLAY go, Fable 2 kills most "next gen" rehashes and mindless shooters like this