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#1 Wild_Card
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any one notice this thread is over 2 years old lol.

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[QUOTE="OhJayDubya"]I only have two reservation about this console: 1. Price - Is this system going to be affordable? Its controller is adding to the price and it has the most up-to-date hardware of any current system, so how much is that all going to cost? 2. Support - Are developers going to put in the time for this console throughout its life cycle or are they just going to jump ship as soon as the NextBox and PS4 are released? I don't want a repeat of the Wii where my selection of great games is fairly limited due to lack of developers support. I believe that these two link together as well, if a system is going to be expensive I am not going to want to shell out the money if the system is getting sketchy support. In the support is showing good signs then I will be more inclined to purchase the console even if its considered "expensive".

i dont think we need worry to awful much about price. Not that it could not be a problem i just think, going by what iv read ect that the system will not be overly pricy, if i had to bet id say 249.99. maybe 300$ max. The thing im a little worried about is what are those controllers going to cost to by a replacement or 2nd controler!? Again if i HAD to play a bet id bet between 79.99 and 99.99. As for your 2nd worry, yea im also worried about that, ninty has not had a GREAt track record with 3rd party support as is, at least not sense the snes. Hopefully the WiiU will change all that and contenue getting strong 3rd party support through out its life cycle but in my humble opinion its chancy. i think it will come down to how many units they move in the time between release and the release of the other two next gen systems.Not only that but what kind of users buy the system in droves, if the majority of sales apear to be to the casual crowed ....well then i would not hold my breath for big block buster 3rd party support very long after the other two systems are released, but thats all just guess work. at any rate im hopeing to see ninty and the wiiU capture the core gamers and thus see strong "core" type game support from all partys.
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#3 Wild_Card
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hey guys, its been a pretty good while sence i got a new game and im getting that itch lol. im thinking of dead island or mass effect 2 or 3. What do u guys think? i love the idea of dead island, the whole fighting zombies and servival thing and of course i love walking dead TV series ;) but i heard the game was only so so in quality, i know almost nothing about the ME games other than they seem to be pretty popular and there some sorta space rpg/shooter blend. has the dead island game gotten any better with patchs? Are the ME games as good as there popularity suggest?

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[QUOTE="Wild_Card"][QUOTE="thetravman"]

Starfox's future is quite mysterious. When you think about it, of many of its games, there is only one great game. Starfox Adventures originally wasn't supposed to be Starfox and it just came off weird in the end. It turned out to be a lesser Zelda. Assault was hindered by stupid decisions (although some flying sections were great). In terms of story, what have they done? Krystal is just boring and makes Fox act like an idiot. The love chemistry...I just don't buy it. And Panther shouldn't even exist. Command didn't happen...it DIDN'T.

Starfox 64 is a true classic and still holds up exceptionally. I bought the 3D version and 100% completed it yet again without a dull moment (except the BlueMarine segments). If Starfox were to happen again, I prefer Miyamoto to back it up like Starfox 64 because obviously, he knows what's best for the franchise. Here's an idea, and I know it's been done to death at this point, but I think a reboot should happen when the 4 iconic characters are together again. I just don't like where Starfox settles now.

thetravman

agreed, though i always liked the first starfox best so id say at the very least there has been 2 great SF games ;)

Yeah, I played the a little of the first one a while after I played 64 and I find it hard to tolerate the framerate of that game. I'll give it a chance again eventually when I come across it.

im not saying your wrong about the frame rates, but i never noticed, always seemed smooth enough to me, of course back in the day it was super smooth looking compaired to what we were used to. i remember the first time i fired Starfox up on my snes i was just so blown away by it, it played like no other game *I* had ever played before. iirc it was one of if not the first fully pollygonal game i had played. And the over all feel of it from the graphics,the anamation and feel of how the airwings moved to the music and sound effects was just so fresh and cool lol. but boy did those later Lv's pi** me off haha. and iirc once you lost all your lives you had to start from the begining wich made it very agravating lol. but yea, starfox on the wiiU SHOULD be a heck of an exp IF ninty buts there full effort in to it.
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while i dont mind a prequel im worried about it being set in the silver gae. iirc that was a rather goofy time for comics batman in perticular. lots of "gee golly bat man" and other corny dialog ect.

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Starfox's future is quite mysterious. When you think about it, of many of its games, there is only one great game. Starfox Adventures originally wasn't supposed to be Starfox and it just came off weird in the end. It turned out to be a lesser Zelda. Assault was hindered by stupid decisions (although some flying sections were great). In terms of story, what have they done? Krystal is just boring and makes Fox act like an idiot. The love chemistry...I just don't buy it. And Panther shouldn't even exist. Command didn't happen...it DIDN'T.

Starfox 64 is a true classic and still holds up exceptionally. I bought the 3D version and 100% completed it yet again without a dull moment (except the BlueMarine segments). If Starfox were to happen again, I prefer Miyamoto to back it up like Starfox 64 because obviously, he knows what's best for the franchise. Here's an idea, and I know it's been done to death at this point, but I think a reboot should happen when the 4 iconic characters are together again. I just don't like where Starfox settles now.

thetravman
agreed, though i always liked the first starfox best so id say at the very least there has been 2 great SF games ;)
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id def love a new starfox. i just hope if they do make it its all about the airwing i think it was called, you know the jet fighter. nevercared for the ground based combat. and i hope its not onrails. id love a starfox with a little more flight sim like controls. by that i dont mean tons of dials and switchs ect but that you can manuver the airwing around and dog fight like in a more realistic way. kinda like the acecombat games ect ....but better ;) a new metriod would be super cool as well.

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[QUOTE="Wild_Card"]good point, i suppose had they made the wii as powerful as the other two systems it would have raised the price and prob prevented the "casual support "not that that would have broke my heart lol". Madmangamer364

The notion that Nintendo could have supported such a system at such a time would have been suicide, really. The HD model did nothing but cause Microsoft and Sony to bleed revenue for years, and unlike those two, Nintendo's not the kind of company that can afford massive losses in the 'video game division', seeing as that's all Nintendo has to work with. :P And on top of that, you'd then have to consider the fact Nintendo would be competing for the very same audience they failed to attract the gen before, when they had a console that was not only comparable to its competitors in terms of power, but was also the most affordable console on the market at the time. In other words, Nintendo would have invested an absurd amount of money to really get nowhere, and anyone with a modest amount of business sense would tell you that it would have been a disastrous decision on Nintendo's part to compete in such a manner.

The truth is that people should be thanking the Wii for even giving the Wii U a chance to exist. No one gave Nintendo a shot to be a relevant figure this gen, and at times, the Wii was really the only thing that mattered in the marketplace. The Wii not only kept the door open for Nintendo in the console market, it in fact opened the door so wide, Nintendo could actually try to re-adapt a former approached that had failed them in the past. Now, it's up to the Wii U to make sure that the Wii's massive success wasn't all for nothing, really.

some good points and for most of it i agree.
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Hahaha. How entertaining. Nintendo made the Wii not a powerhouse cause they wanted to test the concept of motion controls No they did it to keep cost low. If they tested them on a power system like a 360 or PS3 and people DIDNT like it then it would have blown up in Nintendo's face and been a failureagain to keep cost low. So Nintendo sat back a generation to test them on a cheaper console. If the idea failed it wouldnt be a big deal for Nintendoconjector it may have been a huge deal.. However it was loved by most how do u know that? have you talked with ever person who owns a wii to get there opinion?. Now Nintendo will implement the motion controls into the powerhouse systemfrom what iv seen i would not call the wii U a powerhouse system by todays standerds. Wii U. It was a smart move by Nintendo. Xbox 720 will only be 15% - 20% more powerful then the Wii U which is hardly noticableThats your opinion, IF and i stress IF the next box is 20% more powerful thats still a pretty big imho, not huge but hardly unnotible. As for a PS4....lol Really?. Anyone who does abit of research or keeps with the times would know that Sony is in a HUGE financial problemMaby but there game devision is doing great. They lost $6.4 BILLION in 2011wich had nothing to do with the playstation brand. Thats 1/3 of the entire Sony companies worth. Sony themself said they predict that will happen again this year. Meaning they lost 2/3 of the entire companies worth in 2 years. They fired 10,000 employees. Their investors have lost all faith in them. They didnt start making a profit from the PS3 till just last year. If Sony isnt EXTREMLY careful they will disappear in 2 years timei would not hold my breath on that buddy. They themselfs have said they wont make a powerhouse system again really? justwhen did thay say this? Link please?. PS4 would be slightly more powerful then Wii U due to it being out later then Wii U and you know this how? are you on the ps4 R&Dteam? How about look in that crystal ball and let me know next weeks lotto numbers are. If they made a powerhouse system again it would be the PS3 fail launch all over again Again how about those lotto numbers Ms Cleo. $600 nobody buys it and Sony shoots themselfs in the foot. Sony needs to MAKE money they cannot afford to bring out a new console yet. That would be a huge risk.Every hardwear release is a risk

Not to mention since Nintendo held back with the Wii. They made it possible to go better next system? how so?. Sony and Microsoft both tried to out due each other and both used up everything they had pretty much Please explain that one, 360 has sold great as have the ps3 in fact if im not mistaken the ps3 has out sold the other two systems world wide the last couple years.. Sure with the new systems they can bump it up from 720p to 1080p there has alraedy been ps3 games that play at 1080p but res is not the only factor in graphical quality nore is graphics the only useul thing that can be done with more powerful hardwear. But thats not a big jump like Wii to Wii U with 480p to 1080p. Graphicly Microsoft and Sony got themselfs backed into a corner lolNo they have not, there is TONS of room for improvemnet.

With the Xbox 720 all there is that most people want is Halo 5 and Halo 6. Having to keep paying for XBL and not being able to play used games or Xbox 360 games. And supposedly all games being Digital only for the 720 are huge issues for most people.

PS4...IF sony makes it dont expect a powerhouse system again about those lotto numbers, when can i expect them?. As for games...what is there a LOT judgeing by the past 3 sony systms ? More rip offs like Playstation All Stars Battle Royal and Little Big Planet Kart or whatever lol yep just two games will be all there is avalible on the next playstation just like the ps3 and the ps2 and psx in the past, boy you sure are ignorant of the games on the playstation brand.

Wii U is first time Nintendo goes HD. First system to be true 1080p and 60 fpso so now graphics matter, all iv heard for 6 years now from you ninty elite is that graphics dont matter lol. Kickass gamepad controller maybe. Pro controller. Dont have to buy batteries anymore unless for the Pro controller. Just charge the Gamepad. FREE ONLINE thats just as good as XBL and how do you know it will be as good as XBL OR PSN? awnser, you dont have a clue like most of what you say its just hopeful thinking at this point. Miiverse. ZELDA HD, Metroid HD, Starfox HD, F-Zero HD, Smash Bros, Mario, Kirby, Donkey Kong, Pikmin 3, Miyamotos NEW IP. How can the Wii U be beat same way any console can be "beat"? It just wins the 8th gen.Im still waiting on those numbers buddy. soon as you can get to it.

Call me a fanboy if you want.your a fanboy. Im a Nintendo Loyalist I will always love Nintendo the most. But I am a PC gamer as well as play the 360. So I am not a fanboy seeing as I play 3 of the 4 systems. Sony...screw them though lol. Call me a Sony hater I guess lolyour def biased for some reason, did a playstation run over your dog when you were a kid or something?.

Eitherway you cannot argue with the Wii U facts facts, no but very little of what you have rambled on about are not facts, there opinions and hopeful thinking. It will be the saviour of the gaming industry.maybe, if the game industry needed saveing, after all the awsome games iv played this gen i personaly dont think it needs saveing what so ever.

[QUOTE="Wild_Card"]i think the WiiU is about 5 to 6 years late my self, imo its what the wii should have been. now let the hateful replies start lol :p. Nut all jokeing aside, I think ninty should get the wiiU out on shelves ASAP. with the very real posabilty that MS and SONY will be releaseing a more powerful system with in the next couple years i think it would good for ninty to have as big of a head start as they can get, build up as large a userbase as they can to intice 3rd party devs to put there AAA games on the Wiiu even after the others have released there systems. if the user base on the wiiU is huge enough with a large enough core type gamer base then the 3rd parties will feel its well worth putting there games on the wiiU even if that means it being a bigger job down gradeing the games to run on the wiiU "if the others systems are considerbly more powerful". Master_Of_Fools