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#1 RavenLoud
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[QUOTE="RavenLoud"][QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

No, YOU don't understand: http://www.gamefly.com/answers/questions/view/10193-do-video-game-developers-and-publishers-make-much-money-off-of-the-individual-rentals-on-services-li

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Rental copies of the game cost much more than normal ones though, publishers make a lot of money off those.

Link?

All rentals are like this, it's common knowledge. It works the same with movies. When Blockbuster buys a copy of something for renting, it cost probably 5x the normal price for a rental edition of the disk. Some have deals with publishers who would also receive a slight cut of the money from each rental. If they rent out standard editions of the games, they'd get sued the hell out of as the license doesn't allow them to do so.

 

Hell, publishers would like it if you to rent games instead of buying them used.

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#2 RavenLoud
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[QUOTE="RavenLoud"][QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

I don't have a problem with a software company renting out their software. That's their (your) option. But, if Jimbo's Software Hut bought some licenses of your company's software, and started renting it out themselves, I highly doubt your company would say "Oh, well. That's cool." instead of suing ol' Jimbo.

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You don't understand, a share of rentals from gamefly or blockbusters have to go to the publishers, it's not like any Joe on the street is renting his game to everyone else.

No, YOU don't understand: http://www.gamefly.com/answers/questions/view/10193-do-video-game-developers-and-publishers-make-much-money-off-of-the-individual-rentals-on-services-li

Rental copies of the game cost much more than normal ones though, publishers make a lot of money off those.
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#3 RavenLoud
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

I approach this from being in the IT industry - on the software development side. If someone bought a license of my software, then sold it to someone else, I would be pretty miffed. If someone started "renting out" software that I wrote - I would be furious.

No other software development market has to put up with what the gaming industry does.

You think I am being "blinded by brand loyalty". That is not true. I see how development studios and publishers get ripped off by the rental and 2nd hand market, and I sympathise with them as a fellow programmer.

If I chose to by a PS4 over the XB1, it will be based on the software and features of that platform. Personally, I hope Sony takes a similar path to what MS is doing.

StormyJoe

Oh boy, I'm in IT too, on the software side and I think these policies SUCK, BTW, we do rent our software as an option, so you're blanket statement does NOT cover the entire IT/software world.

I don't have a problem with a software company renting out their software. That's their (your) option. But, if Jimbo's Software Hut bought some licenses of your company's software, and started renting it out themselves, I highly doubt your company would say "Oh, well. That's cool." instead of suing ol' Jimbo.

You don't understand, a share of rentals from gamefly or blockbusters have to go to the publishers, it's not like any Joe on the street is renting his game to everyone else.
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Misery loves company.

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#5 RavenLoud
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]Some of the crap MS are doing I hate. Smashing the used game industry isn't one of them *shrug*StormyJoe

I agree with that. I was all about the DOJ prosecuting them for being a defacto monopoly. They have done a lot of shaddy things in the past (Killing DR DOS, embedding IE in to Windows, adding fake error messages into Windows DLLs to make 3rd party software appear to not work well, etc.)

This used/renting game industry thing - I'd be happy to see it go away.

What's so bad about renting? Many people only buy a couple of games a year, you simply can't expect people to shell out full price for every game they want to try. Plus, rentals give money to publishers unlike used games.
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#6 RavenLoud
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[QUOTE="sts106mat"][QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

The length some of these shills are going to defend M$ is pathetic.

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really? please explain how things would change for me?

For you maybe nothing would change. For millions of other people alot would change. You realize how many people rent, borrow, sell and buy used games? Without secondhand games the industry will die.

That's not true at all. Even without MS forcing our hands, console gaming is heading towards digital anyway. However generally, used games and its consequences are well integrated into console gaming culture. What's weird is MS being quite obtuse at pushing this before its time, basically taking control away from gamers while getting terrible PR.

 

 

Unless this is all to make most people prefer DLC and online passes once what is being proposed now is scrapped. "Damn thank god they let us have used games, I don't care about online passes that much in comparison".

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#7 RavenLoud
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God McShea delivers again.

 

I've always kind of expected this score when I saw the game tbh, never bought into the hype.

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#8 RavenLoud
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I'm sure that's of no concern for privacy at all.

 

Honestly it reminds of the cellphone radar from the Dark Knight.

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#9 RavenLoud
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Germany is PC land anyway.

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#10 RavenLoud
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Great news, day 1 for me.

 

If only they can localize Vesperia now.