Great now I know how to respond when I see AAA hype for uncharted 2, and yes it was a flop and a great one at that just finished my 4th playthrough :D

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[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"] Well, I would argue that MLB 09 is exclusive as far as system wars arguments go, because you can play it on PS3 and not on 360. Let's think about this like humans. Let's discuss with logic and common sense instead of stringent guidelines. At the heart of the matter is that windows is Microsoft just like 360 is. They are essentially different markets for the same animal.GrilledCharlie

Correct me if i'm wrong, but as far as I know Microsoft receives no compensation for software sold that uses the Windows platform. It is simply an OS that MS has a stranglehold on the market.

MLB 09 is on PS3, PS2 and PSP. 3 seperate systems. Therefore no exclusivity in System Wars.

It's pointless arguing this with me. It won't change.

Here's how it works you can include those games in a PS3 vs 360 Games list. And yes it is just a way for cows to exclude games that are on 360. You will not see a cow make a thread that is 360 vs PS3 overall library because they know who will win. The only threads you will see from cows (ps3 fanboys) is360 exclusives vs PS3 exclusives that way they can disregard they great 360\pc games that are on 360 that's just how it works. Then you hear things like "in the real world I can play it on my pc". Where as in the real world those games are a deciding factor when choosing a console. That's were the term "hiding behind the pc" came from. Because most people that "hide behind the pc" are cows who aren't pc gamers but want to find a way to not include those great 360\pc games. It's pretty sad and a a technicallity cows can hide behind. But in the real world those games are in consumers mind and it shows why 360 is the preferred console over PS3 in most places.

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[QUOTE="PS360_Gamer"] if console A were my only choice for those games then yes maybe alot of people would pick it, but in reality its notPS360_Gamer

In reality those games are available for 360 and do play a part in consumers decisions that's the point.... I love how you talk about " reality " then pretend like a game doesn't exist and can't be included for "console A" because it's multiplat.:lol: Here's theREALITY when a consumer wants a CONSOLE they do look at those games when choosing and it looks like more are choosing 360 then PS3 that's REALITY.

THERE IS NO C DID THE THREAD CREATOR PUT A C OPTION? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO so those games i mentioned should be included what part don't you understand.

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[QUOTE="PS360_Gamer"] these are the hidden facts.....PS360_Gamer

How right you are sir Cows do try to hide the fact that these games are on console and A and when a consumer decides to purchase a console and is presented with consoleA and B he see'sA of course with L4D, Mass Effect, Gears1, Dead rising, etc and more then likely will choose A with more and better games then B. Also in the imaginary scenario there would probably be some sort of Monthly sales data we'll call it PND report , that would show that indeed more consumers choose console A over console B :D

In reality those games are available for 360 and do play a part in consumers decisions that's the point.... I love how you talk about " reality " then pretend like a game doesn't exist and can't be included for "console A" because it's multiplat.:lol: Here's theREALITY when a consumer wants a CONSOLE they do look at those games when choosing and it looks like more are choosing 360 then PS3 that's REALITY.

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[QUOTE="PS360_Gamer"] you dont need a console to play most of "A's" games, PC is not a consolePS360_Gamer

Really were in OP was a PC mentioned? desperate to try to disregard games that ARE ON CONSOLE A :lol:

How right you are sir Cows do try to hide the fact that these games are on console and A and when a consumer decides to purchase a console and is presented with consoleA and B he see'sA of course with L4D, Mass Effect, Gears1, Dead rising, etc and more then likely will choose A with more and better games then B. Also in the imaginary scenario there would probably be some sort of Monthly sales data we'll call it a PND report , that would show that indeed more consumers choose console A over console B :D

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[QUOTE="PS360_Gamer"] considering more people have "console C" then console A and B combined...i would say it should be includedPS360_Gamer

Wow so now 2 consoles are required to get the enjoyment out of just console a , wow interesting in even an imaginary scenario deperate fanboys try to pretend like certain games don't exist that says alot.

Really were in OP was a PC mentioned? desperate to try to disregard games that ARE ON CONSOLE A :lol:

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Were's Mass Effect, Gears 1, and L4D. dead rising... wait let me guess a console c has magically appeared for console b to hide behind lmao

AdoringFan_

No. It's because they are multiplatform.ToV and NG2 will come to PS3 very soon ;)

Really I saw nothing about exclusives in OP , is it you know console B cannot compete with A unless you can somehow disregard games that are ON CONSOLE A EVEN THOUGH OP MADE A SCENARIO ABOUT A VS B LMAO.

Were's Mass Effect, Gears 1, and L4D. dead rising... wait let me guess a console c has magically appeared for console b to hide behind lmao

Topic: Count for what?

RedFactionFan

They should count for the service that provides them PSN vs XBL as this is the only fair way to incorperate their scores.