YOU NEED PS+PLUS TO PLAY GAMES ONLINE sony fans how is that better than xbox?

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#101 happyduds77
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We will get free games every month in return.

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#102 CaseyWegner
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We will get free games every month in return.

happyduds77

you're renting them and they're not free.

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#103 marklarmer
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I don't get why Tretton is talking about how used games/DRM would effect how people perceive the value of games they buy, when charging for online does the same thing...perhaps even more so.

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#104 bblundell
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Thanks for that grammatical holocaust. And you don't seem to understand the fundamental difference between XBL Gold and PS+.Floppy_Jim
This made my day.
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#105 blackace
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]1)At least you get discounts and "free"(rent) games with PS+ 2)And this is the 10th thread about this already 3)ProtossX thread :lol:

I think you;ll see a lot of these threads, because just about every COW said they wouldn't buy a PS4 if they had to Pay for Online. Now many of them are backtracking, saying it's a GOOD THING. If was the worse thing every when XBox fans was paying for XBL to play online. Now that the PS4 has it, everything is fine and dandy. XBL will now give subscribers TWO FREE games every month. I'm wonder if we will be able to use Netflix now without a GOLD membership. You will be with the PS4.
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#106 happyduds77
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[QUOTE="happyduds77"]

We will get free games every month in return.

CaseyWegner

you're renting them and they're not free.

Well, "free" games. Plus we get huge discounts.

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#107 blackace
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

[QUOTE="the-obiwan"] i know it did for me for sure rofl :/ the-obiwan

I was hoping Sony wouldn't pull this crap. 

to be honest i was actually surprised they did it when i was watching the conference, i was even asking my friend if i heard and was seeing correctly.

For me, that was the only reason they lost the conference. If it had stayed FREE, Sony Wins. I have no problem with it. I've been paying for XBL since the original XBox was released. lol!! I'll get PSPlus before the PS4 launches.
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#108 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="happyduds77"]

We will get free games every month in return.

happyduds77

you're renting them and they're not free.

Well, "free" games. Plus we get huge discounts.

they're not free at all. it's part of the service that you pay for.

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#109 AshFromEvilDead
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I'm switching over from Xbox 360 to PS4 for the sole fact I can actually own my games when I purchase them. Not to mention a more powerful console 100 bucks cheaper than M$'s restrictive Xbox One. Paying to Play online is nothing new to me, but what will be new is being given access to play games for free with PS plus, making back the Money I spend on PS Plus 3 times over. I don't ever remember Microsoft letting me play a real actual retail game for free for a whole month ever in the history of the 360's existence with exception to M$'s recent E3 conference (oooh Halo 3 because nobody has ever played that). Not only that But PS Plus isn't new, PS Plus has been around for a while now. SO you can cry all you want people are going to be buying the PS4 and paying for PS PLUS. It's also nice to point out is that I don't have to pay to access my media features at all on PS4 where on Xbox you have to pay to use media features you already pay for. Go cry in a tub Xbot.
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#110 tryagainlater
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It's a bunch of bullshit but PS+ is pretty great now anyway.

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#111 The_Last_Ride
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No DRM. No constant connection. No Kinect required. I think I'm done here.

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Yup, This /thread
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#113 AshFromEvilDead
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[QUOTE="happyduds77"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

you're renting them and they're not free.

CaseyWegner

Well, "free" games. Plus we get huge discounts.

they're not free at all. it's part of the service that you pay for.

PS PLUS 60 dollars a year gives you access to multiple 60 dollar retail games per month during all 12 months, including discounted prices on games via DD. This is a much better value than what I currently pay for to use my Xbox 360, 60 bucks a year to , play online and access my netflix that I already pay for.
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#114 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="happyduds77"]

We will get free games every month in return.

happyduds77

you're renting them and they're not free.

Well, "free" games. Plus we get huge discounts.

Only free if you never paid in the first place. Subbing to PS+ costs money, therefore nothing you get on the store that says "free" is actually free. It justs costs far far less than retail

But I do think PS+ is amazing. I've been away from the PS3 for 2 years and PS+ was total shit back then. Got a new PS3 yesterday and can't believe the value for money with PS+ now

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#115 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="happyduds77"]

Well, "free" games. Plus we get huge discounts.

AshFromEvilDead

they're not free at all. it's part of the service that you pay for.

PS PLUS 60 dollars a year gives you access to multiple 60 dollar retail games per month during all 12 months, including discounted prices on games via DD. This is a much better value than what I currently pay for to use my Xbox 360, 60 bucks a year to , play online and access my netflix that I already pay for.

His point still stands, they're not technically free

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#116 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="happyduds77"]

Well, "free" games. Plus we get huge discounts.

AshFromEvilDead

they're not free at all. it's part of the service that you pay for.

PS PLUS 60 dollars a year gives you access to multiple 60 dollar retail games per month during all 12 months, including discounted prices on games via DD. This is a much better value than what I currently pay for to use my Xbox 360, 60 bucks a year to , play online and access my netflix that I already pay for.

doesn't really have anything to do with what i said but what you said isn't wrong.

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#117 WilliamRLBaker
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While I say it doesn't matter. I am more than willing to pay for quality, Its so funny how many sheens are backtracking now bu bub ububu you get discounts, you get free games bububububub.

you've received discounts and massive sales on XBLG for years infact they started having sales soon after the 360's launch.
 

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#118 Cubs360
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ITS BETTER than xbox because PS4 will NOT ask you for PS+ to watch Netflix or chrunchyroll or any other app, you dont need PS+ to send a text message to friends and so on BUTTT you need it now to play online.

PS+ is far more worth it than Xbox Live anwyays because its $10 cheaper and Sony usually give you 15 months for that $50 unlike MS which is always 12 months, PS+ offers mega discounts and a lot of games if you are not the kind of person to buy too many games, heck they already confirmed 4 games PS+ memebers to get on the PS4 including DriveClub.

PS+>>>>>>>>>>>>XboxFailLive

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but playstation online is crap compared to xbox live....hopefully the reason they are charging is to make it up to xbox lives standards or higher.
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#119 Chutebox
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People seriously understood the OP?

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#120 Jak-25
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It's still better than Xbox. If one person has PS Plus on the same PS4, everyone who uses that PS4 get's to play online, while on Xbox everyone needs to have gold just to play online. Sony wins!

 

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2013/06/11/one-playstation-plus-account-on-ps4-will-allow-other-accounts-to-play-online-on-same-console/

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#121 FastEddie2121
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Cow's defending paying for online :lol: This is hilarious.The_Pacific

obvious hypocrite is obvious

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#122 robokill
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you get more than your money back in free games that you probably would have bought anyway, maybe spend $300 over 5 years and probably get more than $500 worth in free games back. But the Lems are throwing their shitfit and trying to bring the ps4 down with their sinking ship, it's going to be discontinued in a year
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#123 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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i just paid 40 dollars for PS+ for my ps3 but i still think the ps4 sucks and fvck you sony
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#124 Heil68
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I wanted to give Sony extra money and my wish was granted.
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#125 the-obiwan
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I wanted to give Sony extra money and my wish was granted. Heil68
lol i wish i had something to say about this but i dont :P
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#126 Ninja-Hippo
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]i just paid 40 dollars for PS+ for my ps3 but i still think the ps4 sucks and fvck you sony

I've missed you so much. :(
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#127 AmazonTreeBoa
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[QUOTE="The_Pacific"]Cow's defending paying for online :lol: This is hilarious.FastEddie2121

obvious hypocrite is obvious

What does that even mean?

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#128 Heil68
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[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

No DRM. No constant connection. No Kinect required. I think I'm done here.

The_Last_Ride
Yup, This /thread

Well that too, but I didn't think we have to keep repeating the same thing over and over, but yeah SDC, thank you Sony.
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]i just paid 40 dollars for PS+ for my ps3 but i still think the ps4 sucks and fvck you sony

I've missed you so much. :(

:lol:
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#130 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="FastEddie2121"]

[QUOTE="The_Pacific"]Cow's defending paying for online :lol: This is hilarious.AmazonTreeBoa

obvious hypocrite is obvious

What does that even mean?

lol oh stop you know exactly what it means in this context. you are such an ass hat and always have been.
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#131 the-obiwan
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]i just paid 40 dollars for PS+ for my ps3 but i still think the ps4 sucks and fvck you sony

I've missed you so much. :(

ive missed him myself as well :3
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#132 AM-Gamer
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[QUOTE="happyduds77"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

you're renting them and they're not free.

CaseyWegner

Well, "free" games. Plus we get huge discounts.

they're not free at all. it's part of the service that you pay for.

Your right it is, a service that gives you far better value then any service out there including Steam or XBL.

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#133 jsolidus
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I don't want to pay for online, its one of the major reasons I never dealt with M$ last gen, however I did get a free subscription to PS+ which is optional on the ps3 and its definitely worth it. The amount of free stuff and discounts a player gets cancel out the 50 dollars you spent. So you're getting it for free at the end of the year. With the 360 i never saw the value in paying for xbl the only thing you were paying for was online and thats its..Never heard anyone gloating about how M$ gave you a free game, well they did give members 25 cents for their anniversary....Pius everyone knew that one day Sony would charge for online, not for the ps3, but eventually in the future..I knew it once ps+ came out.
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#134 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="happyduds77"]

Well, "free" games. Plus we get huge discounts.

AM-Gamer

they're not free at all. it's part of the service that you pay for.

Your right it is, a service that gives you far better value then any service out there including Steam or XBL.

steam is free. :|

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#135 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="happyduds77"]

Well, "free" games. Plus we get huge discounts.

AM-Gamer

they're not free at all. it's part of the service that you pay for.

Your right it is, a service that gives you far better value then any service out there including Steam or XBL.

...lol better than steam. lol. lollololol
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#136 rogerjak
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Screw monthly fees! Imma gonna get a WiiU!


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[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

they're not free at all. it's part of the service that you pay for.

CaseyWegner

Your right it is, a service that gives you far better value then any service out there including Steam or XBL.

steam is free. :|

yeah but they don't give you free games CASEY do they
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#138 AM-Gamer
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[QUOTE="the-obiwan"][QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

I was hoping Sony wouldn't pull this crap.

blackace

to be honest i was actually surprised they did it when i was watching the conference, i was even asking my friend if i heard and was seeing correctly.

For me, that was the only reason they lost the conference. If it had stayed FREE, Sony Wins. I have no problem with it. I've been paying for XBL since the original XBox was released. lol!! I'll get PSPlus before the PS4 launches.

To the rest of the world they dominated the conference.

1. You must have kinect always on for it to function and its going to make the price of the console $100 dollars more

2. Used game policy is a joke

3. I have to install every game to my HDD?

4. I cant borrow any games from my freinds?

Sorry but a few timed exclusives( sorry if you thing DR3 and CD will stay exclusive) and anohter Halo and Forza dont change that.

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#139 AM-Gamer
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[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

they're not free at all. it's part of the service that you pay for.

WilliamRLBaker

Your right it is, a service that gives you far better value then any service out there including Steam or XBL.

...lol better than steam. lol. lollololol

Yes better then steam , Steam gives you no free games, PSN gives you free and discounted games. You keep the discounted ones regardless if you are a member or not.

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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

Your right it is, a service that gives you far better value then any service out there including Steam or XBL.

AM-Gamer

...lol better than steam. lol. lollololol

Yes better then steam , Steam gives you no free games, PSN gives you free and discounted games. You keep the discounted ones regardless if you are a member or not.

:lol:
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#141 Resultsmayvary0
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do you play games online if so u better be paying sony every month am i wrong AM I WRONG?

ProtossX

 

Wrong?  No.  An idiot?  Yes.

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#142 hexashadow13
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http://www.gamesradar.com/ps4-effectively-forces-you-get-ps-plus-thats-good-thing/?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=emp&utm_campaign=psplusagoodthing
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

Your right it is, a service that gives you far better value then any service out there including Steam or XBL.

Jandurin

steam is free. :|

yeah but they don't give you free games CASEY do they

they do.

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#144 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

Your right it is, a service that gives you far better value then any service out there including Steam or XBL.

AM-Gamer

...lol better than steam. lol. lollololol

Yes better then steam , Steam gives you no free games, PSN gives you free and discounted games. You keep the discounted ones regardless if you are a member or not.

do you even know what steam is?

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

steam is free. :|

CaseyWegner

yeah but they don't give you free games CASEY do they

they do.

surely you aren't talking about dota 2?
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#146 NoodleFighter
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man the hypocrisy of cows has really been showing the past months

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#147 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"] yeah but they don't give you free games CASEY do theyJandurin

they do.

surely you aren't talking about dota 2?

they may not happen as often but i got portal and alien storm for free. truly free.

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#148 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

they do.

CaseyWegner

surely you aren't talking about dota 2?

they may not happen as often but i got portal and alien storm for free. truly free.

hmm i think i may have got a copy of portal free too now that you mention it ofc i already owned it at the time but i had to do some stupid crap on their thing with something else i had got from another game during some stupid holiday thing
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#149 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"] surely you aren't talking about dota 2?Jandurin

they may not happen as often but i got portal and alien storm for free. truly free.

hmm i think i may have got a copy of portal free too now that you mention it ofc i already owned it at the time

they offer other indie games from time to time. there's also free to play weekends.

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f2play weekends piss me off