YOU NEED PS+PLUS TO PLAY GAMES ONLINE sony fans how is that better than xbox?

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

I knew idiots would latch onto this one point. Also what a horribly written OP

Bottom line is it's one small gripe in a sea of goodness. The good outweight the bad completely and XBone still has some really dodgy DRM and anti cinsumer policies in place with a high price. Sony is the opposite, THAT'S why it's better

mems_1224

I think this is true, to varying degrees, but yes.

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"] whymems_1224

Once a company shows success in charging for it others will follow. MS had a lot of subs to gold with 360 and Sony weren't gonna miss out on that slice of pie.

It's like the way DLC is today, once CoD got away with it everyone tried their hand 

Business is business at the end of the day

Luckly PS+ is damn good value for money even in its current model

Cross game chat doesn't require plus.

The ownage keeps coming.

Cross game chat doesn't require plus.

The ownage keeps coming.

Obviously_Right

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

and cows bashed it to no end for doing so.

seanmcloughlin

I get that, and I get people hating on it. But it's nothing new to gaming, new to PS sure. and the fact that they're using this one small gripe as some sort of ammo against the PS4 when it had soooooo much more good stuff is just dumb.

Paying for online play was always gonna be an inevitability 

it didn't seem like a small gripe when the 360 was being bashed for the last 7 and a half years.

ok well get this

WHAT IF SONY drops features from playstation plus once they get all you sheep subscribed to it to play games

and they just start cutting playstation plus features and make a higher tier one with all those older playstation plus perks

like 6 months from now sony drops tons of ps+ features an than comes out with playstation deluxe + or something an take away all the old features of plus an puts on that an plus just turns out to be able to play games online

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

and cows bashed it to no end for doing so.

CaseyWegner

I get that, and I get people hating on it. But it's nothing new to gaming, new to PS sure. and the fact that they're using this one small gripe as some sort of ammo against the PS4 when it had soooooo much more good stuff is just dumb.

Paying for online play was always gonna be an inevitability 

it didn't seem like a small gripe when the 360 was being bashed for the last 7 and a half years.

Because it was the first and only of its kind in the console market. Of course it would be bashed. Now people are accustomed to that way of thinking.

Not only that but PS+ gives you great value for money already and not subbing to it is stupid even with a PS3, if you're serious about your system it makes the most sense to sub to it now. 

Still a bit of a dick move but it's not THAT big a deal like some people are making it out to be

XBL gold gives you 2 free games. Thats it.

PS+ give you instant game library, 5 new games a month, discounts in the PSN store, it supports all 3 sony systems meaning if you have a ps3, ps4 and vita then your PS+ account is for all of them, online game save backup, automatic updates, full game trials and more. As soon as you subscribe you instantly get an entire years subscription back x's 5 in content.

I liked it better when I could play games online free but when I consider 4.16 a month gets me so much content it takes the sting out of it.

 

Because it was the first and only of its kind in the console market. Of course it would be bashed. Now people are accustomed to that way of thinking.

Not only that but PS+ gives you great value for money already and not subbing to it is stupid even with a PS3, if you're serious about your system it makes the most sense to sub to it now. 

Still a bit of a dick move but it's not THAT big a deal like some people are making it out to be

seanmcloughlin

people here make a big deal about everything. it doesn't make it any less hypocritical to downplay it. you had to pay for online gaming on the 360 and now you have to as well for the ps4. no way to downplay this fact.

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

 

Because it was the first and only of its kind in the console market. Of course it would be bashed. Now people are accustomed to that way of thinking.

Not only that but PS+ gives you great value for money already and not subbing to it is stupid even with a PS3, if you're serious about your system it makes the most sense to sub to it now. 

Still a bit of a dick move but it's not THAT big a deal like some people are making it out to be

CaseyWegner

people here make a big deal about everything. it doesn't make it any less hypocritical to downplay it. you had to pay for online gaming on the 360 and now you have to as well for the ps4. no way to downplay this fact.

Cows are hypocrites full stop anyway. Why act so surprised? 

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

 

Because it was the first and only of its kind in the console market. Of course it would be bashed. Now people are accustomed to that way of thinking.

Not only that but PS+ gives you great value for money already and not subbing to it is stupid even with a PS3, if you're serious about your system it makes the most sense to sub to it now. 

Still a bit of a dick move but it's not THAT big a deal like some people are making it out to be

seanmcloughlin

people here make a big deal about everything. it doesn't make it any less hypocritical to downplay it. you had to pay for online gaming on the 360 and now you have to as well for the ps4. no way to downplay this fact.

Cows are hypocrites full stop anyway. Why act so surprised? 

not surprised at all. the irony is just amusing.

I knew idiots would latch onto this one point. Also what a horribly written OP

Bottom line is it's one small gripe in a sea of goodness. The good outweight the bad completely and XBone still has some really dodgy DRM and anti cinsumer policies in place with a high price. Sony is the opposite, THAT'S why it's better

seanmcloughlin

Paying to play games online when its always been and still is free elsewhere? Seems like a pretty big gripe to me. Youve already paid for your bandwidth why should you have to pay to use it? Its not as if you get dedicated servers much any more almost everythihng you play on consoles s hosted by you and everyone else over Peer2Peer.

If noone paid for it they would drop the subscription fees in a heartbeat. But they wont have to because you idiots always will. Sony fanboys have bashed M$ for charging people to play online. Now its only a "small gripe" because youll have to pay up on PS aswell. :lol:

Cheaper, and only to play games online and get free games. Not to access my netflix etc

Still a bit of a dick move but it's not THAT big a deal like some people are making it out to be

seanmcloughlin

I'm fine with it because PS+ is a great service that pays for itself. M$ puts everything behind a paywall and gives you nothing in return.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

I get that, and I get people hating on it. But it's nothing new to gaming, new to PS sure. and the fact that they're using this one small gripe as some sort of ammo against the PS4 when it had soooooo much more good stuff is just dumb.

Paying for online play was always gonna be an inevitability 

seanmcloughlin

it didn't seem like a small gripe when the 360 was being bashed for the last 7 and a half years.

Because it was the first and only of its kind in the console market. Of course it would be bashed. Now people are accustomed to that way of thinking.

Not only that but PS+ gives you great value for money already and not subbing to it is stupid even with a PS3, if you're serious about your system it makes the most sense to sub to it now. 

Still a bit of a dick move but it's not THAT big a deal like some people are making it out to be

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

and cows bashed it to no end for doing so.

seanmcloughlin

I get that, and I get people hating on it. But it's nothing new to gaming, new to PS sure. and the fact that they're using this one small gripe as some sort of ammo against the PS4 when it had soooooo much more good stuff is just dumb.

Paying for online play was always gonna be an inevitability 

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

and cows bashed it to no end for doing so.

onewiththegame

I get that, and I get people hating on it. But it's nothing new to gaming, new to PS sure. and the fact that they're using this one small gripe as some sort of ammo against the PS4 when it had soooooo much more good stuff is just dumb.

Paying for online play was always gonna be an inevitability 

that's really all it is. what goes around comes around. same with the "ps3 has no games" thing which started out as the "360 has no games."

The thing that turned me off the PS4.

The thing that turned me off the PS4.

Michael0134567

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

The thing that turned me off the PS4.

the-obiwan

[QUOTE="onewiththegame"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

I get that, and I get people hating on it. But it's nothing new to gaming, new to PS sure. and the fact that they're using this one small gripe as some sort of ammo against the PS4 when it had soooooo much more good stuff is just dumb.

Paying for online play was always gonna be an inevitability 

CaseyWegner

that's really all it is. what goes around comes around. same with the "ps3 has no games" thing which started out as the "360 has no games."

Yeah, it's against cows more than the PS4

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

The thing that turned me off the PS4.

the-obiwan

Yup.

[QUOTE="the-obiwan"][QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

The thing that turned me off the PS4.

Jandurin

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

I knew idiots would latch onto this one point.

Jandurin

I used to catch hell on here from cows because I paid for Live (I also have ps+ that I paid for), but to see some of the very same people now telling why they are willing to pay....hypocrisy is so dope.

you tell me u were telling me ur games were free to play online is ps+plus free to play?

 

u need that to play online games so u tell me if thats free an u tell me all this stuff

ProtossX

do you play games online if so u better be paying sony every month am i wrong AM I WRONG?

ProtossX

When did gamespot turn into such a heaping pile of illiterate shit? 

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="the-obiwan"] the pay to play online turned you off? just making it clear the-obiwan

I was hoping Sony wouldn't pull this crap. 

PS Plus was already more than worth the fee before they put online behind the paywall. That's the difference.

if you guys are all paying for online next gen, they better be giving every game dedicated servers. no more of this p2p shit

[QUOTE="the-obiwan"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] did for me tooMichael0134567

I was hoping Sony wouldn't pull this crap. 

[QUOTE="ProtossX"]

you tell me u were telling me ur games were free to play online is ps+plus free to play?

 

u need that to play online games so u tell me if thats free an u tell me all this stuff

23Jarek23

do you play games online if so u better be paying sony every month am i wrong AM I WRONG?

ProtossX

When did gamespot turn into such a heaping pile of illiterate shit? 

because apparently the word "you" is just too damn long

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Still a bit of a dick move but it's not THAT big a deal like some people are making it out to be

Jandurin

I'm far from a Sony fanboy

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

[QUOTE="the-obiwan"] i know it did for me for sure rofl :/ the-obiwan

I was hoping Sony wouldn't pull this crap. 

I didn't watch any of the conferences, but yeah, definitely surprising. The way it was on the PS3 sounded great.

I have downloaded enough free games of PSN + to pay for 8 years of the service, MS has gave me absolutley nothing for a gold membership. Lems keep acting like there the same but there not, Not even close.

LOL you speak funny!!! and your thread is garbage and has no merit. have a nice day.

Cows will never admit it but they got owned They said they would not have to pay for online and SOny would kill Microsoft in exclusives. Aside from Second Son, PS4's exclusives do noy look very good and they are now paying online fees to play games.

OWNED. But they will never admit it.

Cows will never admit it but they got owned They said they would not have to pay for online and SOny would kill Microsoft in exclusives. Aside from Second Son, PS4's exclusives do noy look very good and they are now paying online fees to play games.

OWNED. But they will never admit it.

timbers_WSU

Knew it was going to happen.

Now Sony fanboys will gleefully jump on the paying for online multiplayer bandwagon after going a whole generation talking about how they're "entitled" to free internet.

I knew this was going to happen years ago. But since I'm not a whiny, entitled flavor of gamer, I don't care. Microsoft killed my chances of getting an Xbox One so I'll just take the money I've been paying for Live and put that towards PS Plus.

My Live account expires in November too. How...fitting.

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

Cows will never admit it but they got owned They said they would not have to pay for online and SOny would kill Microsoft in exclusives. Aside from Second Son, PS4's exclusives do noy look very good and they are now paying online fees to play games.

OWNED. But they will never admit it.

ithilgore2006

that didn't look like much effort was needed.

[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

Cows will never admit it but they got owned They said they would not have to pay for online and SOny would kill Microsoft in exclusives. Aside from Second Son, PS4's exclusives do noy look very good and they are now paying online fees to play games.

OWNED. But they will never admit it.

CaseyWegner

that didn't look like much effort was needed.