Will the Steam box save PC gaming?

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

Rosebud

uninspiredcup

Dumb movie.

I can't tell you how happy I am that Hitchcock's Vertigo is now collectively considered the greatest movie over Citizen Kane.  Of course, if I had things my way The Searchers would be SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER than number 7.  Sure, 7 out of 250 by Sight and Sound is excellent.  But we're talking greatest of all time level movie-making here.

I watched this movie the other day and I agree. Boring as hell, Cool camera angles (for the time) but the movie is boring as hell.

Seven Samurai is the best movie made, fact.

Rosebud is the Sled. there, now no one will need to watch it

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[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

Dumb movie.

I can't tell you how happy I am that Hitchcock's Vertigo is now collectively considered the greatest movie over Citizen Kane.  Of course, if I had things my way The Searchers would be SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER than number 7.  Sure, 7 out of 250 by Sight and Sound is excellent.  But we're talking greatest of all time level movie-making here.

lostrib

I watched this movie the other day and I agree. Boring as hell, Cool camera angles (for the time) but the movie is boring as hell.

Seven Samurai is the best movie made, fact.

Rosebud is the Sled. there, now no one will need to watch it

50 year old spoiler. Reported.

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[QUOTE="GioVela2010"] GOGOGOGURT

hmmm that looks familiar...

My point exactly.  

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[QUOTE="uninspiredcup"]

I watched this movie the other day and I agree. Boring as hell, Cool camera angles (for the time) but the movie is boring as hell.

Seven Samurai is the best movie made, fact.

uninspiredcup

Rosebud is the Sled. there, now no one will need to watch it

50 year old spoiler. Reported.

Jack dies in Titanic

Rhett leaves Scarlett O'hara

Tyler Durden isn't real

PC gamers need to get off their high horse.  PC gaming may not need to be "saved", but it leaves much to be wanted.  It's the only reason why I don't game on PC. The market isn't there. 

PC gaming doesn't need to be saved.DragonfireXZ95

PC gamers need to get off their high horse.  PC gaming may not need to be "saved", but it leaves much to be wanted.  It's the only reason why I don't game on PC. The market isn't there. 

GOGOGOGURT

If you can only get one platform, it should be PC

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

Rosebud

lostrib

Dumb movie.

I can't tell you how happy I am that Hitchcock's Vertigo is now collectively considered the greatest movie over Citizen Kane.  Of course, if I had things my way The Searchers would be SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER than number 7.  Sure, 7 out of 250 by Sight and Sound is excellent.  But we're talking greatest of all time level movie-making here.

Haven't watched either of them, but I probably should

hmmm, 20th for Singin' in the Rain. not bad

Sight and Sound is the basis by which Citizen Kane was always called the greatest.   For the first time they got us rearranged to Vertigo!  Gotta love that Hitchcock.

But lots of greats on the list.  Apocalypse Now is rightfully higher than The Godfather (also amazing), Ordet is as highly placed as it should be too.  Lots of Kurosawa love, though I'll take Yojimbo over Seven Samurai.  My favorite Goddard film is his most highly rated with Pierrot le Fou.  Blade Runner is in the top half along with Barry Lyndon (probably one of Kubrick's least discussed films despite being absolutely fantastic).  Of course, M, is one of the most profoundly dark films ever made where we follow the journey of a child killer.  A Man Escaped is what I considered the pinnacle of French cinema and it's on the list.  Blow Up is on the list as a genuinely excellent film in the middle of the list.

On the animated side they have My Neighbor Totoro as the top film, but I'd take Beauty and the Beast.  AFI takes Snow White.  They've got Wall-E on the list too, though again I'd take Up or Toy Story 3 over that one.  But they literally cover everything from Star Wars to Badlands to Spirited Away to The Killer of Sheep and Goodfellas, Pulp Fiction and what have you.

Why am I trying to discuss movies in this topic you may be wondering?  Because I think uninspiredcup is a moron and I hate that he even referred to Citizen Kane.

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PC gamers need to get off their high horse.  PC gaming may not need to be "saved", but it leaves much to be wanted.  It's the only reason why I don't game on PC. The market isn't there. 

lostrib

If you can only get one platform, it should be PC

PC gamers need to get off their high horse.  PC gaming may not need to be "saved", but it leaves much to be wanted.  It's the only reason why I don't game on PC. The market isn't there. 

GOGOGOGURT

PC gaming is awesome.  I prefer it now than I did a decade ago.

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

hmmm that looks familiar...

m3Boarder32

My point exactly.  

You're missing the point, to be exact.

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[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

PC gamers need to get off their high horse.  PC gaming may not need to be "saved", but it leaves much to be wanted.  It's the only reason why I don't game on PC. The market isn't there. 

m3Boarder32

If you can only get one platform, it should be PC

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[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

PC gamers need to get off their high horse.  PC gaming may not need to be "saved", but it leaves much to be wanted.  It's the only reason why I don't game on PC. The market isn't there. 

m3Boarder32

If you can only get one platform, it should be PC

pretty sure that has been proven false in that other thread.  But PC has the most high rated exclusives and the best version of most multiplat games, and you don't have to pay for online service, and many multiplayer games use dedicated servers.  Plus better graphics, performance, etc.  But you already know this

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If you can only get one platform, it should be PC

FPSfan1985

just ignore him, he's trying to pick a fight with jankar or someone similar

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[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

PC gamers need to get off their high horse.  PC gaming may not need to be "saved", but it leaves much to be wanted.  It's the only reason why I don't game on PC. The market isn't there. 

m3Boarder32

If you can only get one platform, it should be PC

You need to check your stats. The PC has had more AA+ exclusives than all consoles combined, every year, for as long as anyone has bothered to keep track.

But you're too good to plug your PC into TEH PLASMA, and that means consoles win everything, right?

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[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

PC gamers need to get off their high horse.  PC gaming may not need to be "saved", but it leaves much to be wanted.  It's the only reason why I don't game on PC. The market isn't there. 

m3Boarder32

If you can only get one platform, it should be PC

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If you can only get one platform, it should be PC

lostrib

pretty sure that has been proven false in that other thread.  But PC has the most high rated exclusives and the best version of most multiplat games, and you don't have to pay for online service, and many multiplayer games use dedicated servers.  Plus better graphics, performance, etc.  But you already know this

Actually, he doesn't. He's a fakeboy. Never gamed on PC in his life.

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If you can only get one platform, it should be PC

the_bi99man

You need to check your stats. The PC has had more AA+ exclusives than all consoles combined, every year, for as long as anyone has bothered to keep track.

But you're too good to plug your PC into TEH PLASMA, and that means consoles win everything, right?

he's talking about all games, not just exclusives.  But just ignore him

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[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"] Why? Xbox 360 had more AAA and more AA gamesthe_bi99man

pretty sure that has been proven false in that other thread.  But PC has the most high rated exclusives and the best version of most multiplat games, and you don't have to pay for online service, and many multiplayer games use dedicated servers.  Plus better graphics, performance, etc.  But you already know this

Actually, he doesn't. He's a fakeboy. Never gamed on PC in his life.

he has a gaming PC

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[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

PC gamers need to get off their high horse.  PC gaming may not need to be "saved", but it leaves much to be wanted.  It's the only reason why I don't game on PC. The market isn't there. 

m3Boarder32

If you can only get one platform, it should be PC

PC has more ACTUAL/PLAYABLE AAA and AA games (facts from GS). ALSO: Best version of multiplats, best gfx best onilne, mods, the biggest backwards compatibility ever for even more infinite games, and Dolphin.

If he needs one system, PC it is.

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[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"] Why? Xbox 360 had more AAA and more AA gameslostrib

You need to check your stats. The PC has had more AA+ exclusives than all consoles combined, every year, for as long as anyone has bothered to keep track.

But you're too good to plug your PC into TEH PLASMA, and that means consoles win everything, right?

he's talking about all games, not just exclusives.  But just ignore him

http://asia.gamespot.com/grid/platform/pc/

There's one example.

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[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

You need to check your stats. The PC has had more AA+ exclusives than all consoles combined, every year, for as long as anyone has bothered to keep track.

But you're too good to plug your PC into TEH PLASMA, and that means consoles win everything, right?

anshul89

he's talking about all games, not just exclusives.  But just ignore him

http://asia.gamespot.com/grid/platform/pc/

There's one example.

yes I know.  That's the whole point, he is using a "loophole" in the SW meta game to claim 360 has the most AAA/AA games.  Better to ignore him.  Of course talking about PC as the best single platform, there is also the vast library of games outside of the gen

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If you can only get one platform, it should be PC

Jankarcop

PC has more ACTUAL/PLAYABLE AAA and AA games (facts from GS). ALSO: Best version of multiplats, best gfx best onilne, mods, the biggest backwards compatibility ever for even more infinite games, and Dolphin.

If he needs one system, PC it is.

And it is, for the time being

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pretty sure that has been proven false in that other thread.  But PC has the most high rated exclusives and the best version of most multiplat games, and you don't have to pay for online service, and many multiplayer games use dedicated servers.  Plus better graphics, performance, etc.  But you already know this

lostrib

Actually, he doesn't. He's a fakeboy. Never gamed on PC in his life.

he has a gaming PC

I refuse to believe that, considering his insanely asinine views on the subject, and straight up refusal to accept facts. But whatever. Even if he does, he's still the biggest idiot on system wars.

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If you can only get one platform, it should be PC

the_bi99man

You need to check your stats. The PC has had more AA+ exclusives than all consoles combined, every year, for as long as anyone has bothered to keep track.

But you're too good to plug your PC into TEH PLASMA, and that means consoles win everything, right?

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

pretty sure that has been proven false in that other thread.  But PC has the most high rated exclusives and the best version of most multiplat games, and you don't have to pay for online service, and many multiplayer games use dedicated servers.  Plus better graphics, performance, etc.  But you already know this

lostrib

Actually, he doesn't. He's a fakeboy. Never gamed on PC in his life.

he has a gaming PC

Did somebody say plasma?

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[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

Actually, he doesn't. He's a fakeboy. Never gamed on PC in his life.

the_bi99man

he has a gaming PC

I refuse to believe that, considering his insanely asinine views on the subject, and straight up refusal to accept facts. But whatever. Even if he does, he's still the biggest idiot on system wars.

it's called trolling.  It's an alt of Gio's so it's not really surprising

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You need to check your stats. The PC has had more AA+ exclusives than all consoles combined, every year, for as long as anyone has bothered to keep track.

But you're too good to plug your PC into TEH PLASMA, and that means consoles win everything, right?

anshul89

he's talking about all games, not just exclusives.  But just ignore him

http://asia.gamespot.com/grid/platform/pc/

There's one example.

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

he's talking about all games, not just exclusives.  But just ignore him

m3Boarder32

http://asia.gamespot.com/grid/platform/pc/

There's one example.

Here, why don't you and jankar both make up actual spreadsheets with all the data and then you guys can compare.  

[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="anshul89"]PC wins overall actually. It's just that gamespot didn't give scores to identical multiplats.

http://asia.gamespot.com/grid/platform/pc/

There's one example.

lostrib

Here, why don't you and jankar both make up actual spreadsheets with all the data and then you guys can compare.  

Because they both know that if they actually did that, PC would have more than all consoles combined, by a large margin. Would be a waste of time.

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

PC gamers need to get off their high horse.  PC gaming may not need to be "saved", but it leaves much to be wanted.  It's the only reason why I don't game on PC. The market isn't there. 

lostrib

If you can only get one platform, it should be PC

No.  My friends and I all grew up on arcades in terms of gaming, as did plenty of other people.  Then we went to the Dreamcast, Sega, n64, PS1, Xbox, Xbox 360.  All of my best gaming memories was playing GoldenEye or time splitters on consoles, with 4 controllers gunked up by pizza sauce and Cheeto dust.  And we didn't care.  We didn't care about this PC gaming.  We were too busy gaming.  The only remarkable experience i've had while pc gaming is marveling at the graphics.  More strong memories was problems with installations, messing with settings, creating files, dealing with bugs, and jusst clicking around in general.  Most pc gamers overlook this because they dont mind it, and that's fine.  But There's a good reason why PC gaming isn't as popular as console gaming.  All the IT guys, programmers, and techies moved to PC gaming.  It's more demanding, and it's a niche market for the tech inclined.  It's still like that today.  

Yes, PC games are more technologically advanced than consoles, but the market is with consoles because it is more fun.  PC gamers are into there PC specs as much as they are into gaming.  I only care about gaming, as does the majority of the market.  It's more than just pop in a disc in, or hooking it up to a big screen.  I'm not saying console gamers are better than PC gamers or vice versa, but I am saying PC gamers have a different lifestyle, and PC gaming is not for everyone.  However, console gaming, is.  It's the idea of a dedicated gaming system, and split screen.  Steambox is taking the right steps in that direction.

It's still like that today.  

GOGOGOGURT

No it's not. You have to click around and mess with files and what not if you pirate games, sure. If you use services like steam however is one click to install and another click to play. This is not 2000 dude.

Yes, PC games are more technologically advanced than consoles, but the market is with consoles because it is more fun.

GOGOGOGURT

Actually the market goes with whatever is most accesible. Currently the mobile the and android market are making a killing a sales.

Because teh more fun lol.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

PC gamers need to get off their high horse.  PC gaming may not need to be "saved", but it leaves much to be wanted.  It's the only reason why I don't game on PC. The market isn't there. 

GOGOGOGURT

If you can only get one platform, it should be PC

No.  My friends and I all grew up on arcades in terms of gaming, as did plenty of other people.  Then we went to the Dreamcast, Sega, n64, PS1, Xbox, Xbox 360.  All of my best gaming memories was playing GoldenEye or time splitters on consoles, with 4 controllers gunked up by pizza sauce and Cheeto dust.  And we didn't care.  We didn't care about this PC gaming.  We were too busy gaming.  The only remarkable experience i've had while pc gaming is marveling at the graphics.  More strong memories was problems with installations, messing with settings, creating files, dealing with bugs, and jusst clicking around in general.  Most pc gamers overlook this because they dont mind it, and that's fine.  But There's a good reason why PC gaming isn't as popular as console gaming.  All the IT guys, programmers, and techies moved to PC gaming.  It's more demanding, and it's a niche market for the tech inclined.  It's still like that today.  

Yes, PC games are more technologically advanced than consoles, but the market is with consoles because it is more fun.  PC gamers are into there PC specs as much as they are into gaming.  I only care about gaming, as does the majority of the market.  It's more than just pop in a disc in, or hooking it up to a big screen.  I'm not saying console gamers are better than PC gamers or vice versa, but I am saying PC gamers have a different lifestyle, and PC gaming is not for everyone.  However, console gaming, is.  It's the idea of a dedicated gaming system, and split screen.  Steambox is taking the right steps in that direction.

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[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"] Just one example? Xbox has about 50 more AAA/AA games than PC I believethe_bi99man

Here, why don't you and jankar both make up actual spreadsheets with all the data and then you guys can compare.  

Because they both know that if they actually did that, PC would have more than all consoles combined, by a large margin. Would be a waste of time.

In 2001 people claimed pc gaming dying. Now, this is undoubtibly the last generation for consoles. With AMD, tablets, valve with steam and so fouth racing along, Sony and Nintendo will probably become a service like steam rather than hardware based. So enjoy your last generation of consoles while you have it kids, pc has won.

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

Here, why don't you and jankar both make up actual spreadsheets with all the data and then you guys can compare.  

m3Boarder32

Because they both know that if they actually did that, PC would have more than all consoles combined, by a large margin. Would be a waste of time.

*you're

Then bring us the data that proves your claim. Until then, let it go 

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It's still like that today.  

edidili

No it's not. You have to click around and mess with files and what not if you pirate games, sure. If you use services like steam however is one click to install and another click to play. This is not 2000 dude.

There's still a finicky OS behind every PC that will give you problems.  And you don't need to go to suspicious sites to get malware or so called "viruses".  The fact that valve is putting steam on a console like package proves I'm right.  I'm not expecting to convince PC gamers of anything, I know they're too hardcore to see what I'm saying.  It's just what I've observed after many years of being a gamer, and that makes my views as valid as anyone else's here.

 But this is system wars, so let's get the flame on!  I'm tired though, I'll check back in the morning.

Currently the mobile the and android market are making a killing a sales.

uninspiredcup

Not really no, not yet at least. There are a lot of mobile games been released daily but only a few big hitters make money. The others are lost in the sea. The fact that they try other ways of revenue like, free with microtransactions means that they cannot make money eitherwise. 

Even the big mobile titles when compared to GTA, CoD, WoW, they don't look that big anymore in terms of profitability. 

There's still a finicky OS behind every PC that will give you problems.  And you don't need to go to suspicious sites to get malware or so called "viruses". 

GOGOGOGURT

Yeah sure, if you still use XP. C'mon now, what year is this. I've been using 8 for over a year already and I didn't even bother installing an antivirus. 

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]Yes, PC games are more technologically advanced than consoles, but the market is with consoles because it is more fun.

uninspiredcup

Actually the market goes with whatever is most accesible. Currently the mobile the and android market are making a killing a sales.

Because teh more fun lol.

Actually android is making a killing because its free.

[QUOTE="uninspiredcup"]

Currently the mobile the and android market are making a killing a sales.

edidili

Not really no, not yet at least. There are a lot of mobile games been released daily but only a few big hitters make money. The others are lost in the sea. The fact that they try other ways of revenue like, free with microtransactions means that they cannot make money eitherwise. 

Even the big mobile titles when compared to GTA, CoD, WoW, they don't look that big anymore in terms of profitability. 

Angry Birds is the best selling video game in the universe. It cost basically nothing to make and it destorying sales compared to AAA games.

It's the future son.

The PC portion of the gaming market is doing fine. There will always be people willing to fork over cash for a personalized/premium experience. People who enjoy taking a hands on approach to gaming, getting involved in the creation of their gaming medium. Most PC gamers I have met are hardcore dudes who enjoy the ability to upgrade and customize their PC, not pissy little shit wanks with rich parents. High end PCs are at the forefront of technological evolution with regards to gaming, and so are helping to drive the industry forward. With regards to the piracy thing, yes that is a factor, but also it has to do with the lack of sales on PC. Still, it is very much a viable medium of gaming for those with the money and/or the patience.

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[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]Yes, PC games are more technologically advanced than consoles, but the market is with consoles because it is more fun.

GOGOGOGURT

Actually the market goes with whatever is most accesible. Currently the mobile the and android market are making a killing a sales.

Because teh more fun lol.

Actually android is making a killing because its free.

Only select android games are free. Stuff like google play are the future. Not (like you say) because of "more fun". They are accesible, like consoles but much more so. Pc is top tier gaming for core people. End of story. Game over. E.t.c...

Angry Birds is the best selling video game in the universe.

uninspiredcup

Sales? Sure. The thing costs $1 so everyone installs it. 

I'm talking about profits, how much money it makes not copies sold. Plus yeah, there is Angry birds and ....

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[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

It's still like that today.  

GOGOGOGURT

No it's not. You have to click around and mess with files and what not if you pirate games, sure. If you use services like steam however is one click to install and another click to play. This is not 2000 dude.

There's still a finicky OS behind every PC that will give you problems.  And you don't need to go to suspicious sites to get malware or so called "viruses".  The fact that valve is putting steam on a console like package proves I'm right.  I'm not expecting to convince PC gamers of anything, I know they're too hardcore to see what I'm saying.  It's just what I've observed after many years of being a gamer, and that makes my views as valid as anyone else's here.

 But this is system wars, so let's get the flame on!  I'm tired though, I'll check back in the morning.

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Angry Birds is the best selling video game in the universe.

edidili

Sales? Sure. The thing costs $1 so everyone installs it. 

I'm talking about profits, how much money it makes not copies sold. Plus yeah, there is Angry birds and ....

Angry Birds: Star Wars.

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Actually the market goes with whatever is most accesible. Currently the mobile the and android market are making a killing a sales.

Because teh more fun lol.

uninspiredcup

Actually android is making a killing because its free.

Only select android games are free. Stuff like google play are the future. Not (like you say) because of "more fun". They are accesible, like consoles but much more so. Pc is top tier gaming for core people. End of story. Game over. E.t.c...

Rockstar said it all when they ignored the PC in order to capitalize on console sales. They were right, sales are over a billion already proving PC is at best something that you can port to after you've made your profit. Then the pirates will take over from there. 

That 500,000+ petition was ignored too in favor of over a billion actual dollars in revenue.