Why the PS4 will have best graphics this 8th generation and much better than what a pc can do?

@m3dude1: Killzone sf may have better AA than battlefront but AA doesn't count as graphics and will only enhance the image quality.

Real graphics includes movement animations, character model,texture animations,And overall photorealism,foilage,lighiting,reflections,etc,.. And battlefront only has better foilage quality graphics than killzone shadow fall And better polygons (perhaps. No idea).Remaining kz sf beats it. On pc or xbox right now ryse and batman ak come near to kz sf.In future perhaps quantum break and scalebound may beat it.

and even battlefront was developed with low end pc's in mind.

I'm curious at this point if you actually believe all of this bullshit.

Oh, you're a PC gamer? Let's see your CPU-Z validation link and a link to your Steam community page.

Sounds like you don't understand shit. I'm glad m3dude1 took the time explaining everything to you. You are such an embarrassment I recommend you look up some tech slides first before participate in discussion.

lmao this thread is basically a gathering of dumb herms who dont even know what PBR is. DURR DURR CRYSIS 3 AND BATTLEFIELD 4 USE DA PBR DURR DURR

I think we all know what PBR is newbie.

I'm pretty sure he wont show it to you, he is a delusional cow that's trying desperately to justify his underpowered POS black plastic box, even if its telling lies to his damn self.

@nyadc: yeah brocycle, dat dere PBR in da battlefield 4 is pretty ace

Oh look, gpuking agreeing with himself about stuff he's wrong about.

They'll probably confuse true volumetric lighting with screenspace 2d hack god rays too lol. Bunch of ignorant neckbeard really.

lol, they probably cant even pronounce the word volumetric

Only if we look at it on the price/perf side!!! /for what it matters

There's no viable pc under 300$, and the best GC are like 800$++.

But all in all, consoles and pc are different items, never to be compared, only some fools on SW dare to, and that's how they reveal themselves!!!

I played Fallout 4 at 60fps, did PS4 or Xbox One players do that ?

I played Tomb Raider 2013 at 60fps, did PS4 or Xbox One players do that?

I Played GTAV at 60fps did PS4 or Xbox One players do that ?

I played Mad Max at 60fps did PS4 or Xbox One players do that?

I played Far Cry 4 at 60fps did PS4 or Xbox One players do that?

I played Project cars at 60fps did PS4 or Xbox One players do that?

I played Dragon Age Inquisition at 60fps did PS4 or Xbox One players do that?

A few those games I may have had to tone down a couple of settings, but it was still higher than console equivalent

The Tomb Raider comparison was the most odd, the OP said it runs better on console, my old 7850 ran it at 60FPS, ultra(ish) settings.

Why is this thread still open? There is literally a guy having a conversation with himself just so he has someone who agrees with him.

This thread should have been locked within 5 minutes of going up, I have no idea why it's still going.

@m3dude1: What is your source for this? You talk a lot but you need something to back up your argument.

@Juub1990: my source for what specifically?

@nyadc:

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198150577658/

this is my steam profile

this image shows my hardware

now show your steam profile,pc hardware and show pics of all the consoles you have

now the one pc hermit with 6 alternate accounts will argue using different accounts

This is why we need the posting limit back to create threads. So we do don't get retards making troll threads with their alt accounts.

@m3dude1: For your claims BF4 isn't using PBR and what exactly PBR is. From what I gathered it's a technology that has been around since the beginning of the decade and has been used by many games including but not limited to; Sunset Overdrive, Ryse, Crysis 3, Battlefront, Infamous SS and many others. Frostbite even has old documents claiming they moved to PBR for Frostbite 3 and their flagship game for that engine was Battlefield 4.

You can even look up Wikipedia or a Frostbite 3 PDF and you'll see PBR being one of its main features.

@vickysaiyajin said:

@nyadc:

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198150577658/

this is my steam profile

this image shows my hardware

now show your steam profile,pc hardware and show pics of all the consoles you have

First off, you bought a non K series CPU, that was stupid to begin with not to mention you have Intel speedstep enabled lol, no wonder your game performance is not what it should be... So you have only 13 games on Steam and one year on the platform... This is all starting to become very clear, you're new, you don't know what you're doing, you're some lowly console gamer who bought a PC...

Let me just throw out this preemptive REKT.

CPU-Z

Steam

GTX 780 and Titan Kepler are built from the same GK110 ASIC (application-specific integrated circuit) design. My GTX 980 Ti is built from the same ASIC as Maxwell Titan i.e. GM200. There's a minor difference between the two different level SKUs e.g. double floating point performance and the amount of VRAM storage.

Against PS4 and XBO consoles, there's very little chance it will beat my Radeon HD R9-290X factory OC (1040 Mhz) which is very close to R9-390X reference.

@Juub1990: dude i already gave you a very basic explanation of what PBR is. the first FB3 title to employ PBR was the new NFS.

http://www.frostbite.com/2014/11/moving-frostbite-to-pbr/

as for crysis 3

http://www.crytek.com/download/2014_03_25_CRYENGINE_GDC_Schultz.pdf

heres a tweet from frostbite technical director

https://twitter.com/SebLagarde/status/538321972154081280

and one from bioware director

@m3dude1: I actually already read these PDF's. How do they support your argument?

@Juub1990: are you fucking kidding me?

@m3dude1: No. I'm asking again, how do they support your argument?

@m3dude1: Ah I just saw the tweet. I'll assume it's legit and not faked. Good then BF4 doesn't use PBR. What about Crysis 3?

unbelievable

@m3dude1: Your image wasn't loading for the tweet so I didn't see it at first, my bad.

the presentations already made it clear even without the tweets

@m3dude1: Not really. Unless of course you think I have BF4 right besides the slides and trying to compare it. They even claimed they have a method that "faked" it. Would have been even more difficult to notice is inclusion in BF4.

the date of the presentation is November of 2014. the opening statement is "over the last few months we have been working on transitioning frostbite to a physically based renderer."

@m3dude1: Exactly what I read and BF4 came out like 3 weeks before. If they had worked on that over the past 9 months then it would have been entirely possible for BF4 to use PBR.

It's time cows swept KZSF under the rug. Star Wars: Battlefront looks much better in nearly every aspect. Sure KZSF is a good looking game, especially the character animations but it's lighting, shadows and absence of shadows seems out of place throughout the game and the poor lod distance is disappointing considering the relatively small areas rendered by the engine.

battlefield 4 came out in october of 2013

Its also boring as fucking sin.

@m3dude1: True. For some reason it had come

our in Oct 2014 in my head but now I remembered it came out right around the time I was at that conference for the release of the R9 290X. My bad for not paying attention.

@vickysaiyajin: OP, could you please cite your statistics? If not, I couldn't be bothered by what you pulled out of your ass, lol

"Let me just make a bunch of shit up in a barely coherent wall of text" -OP

@nyadc: sounds about right, lol

@vickysaiyajin: Okay, so if I'm reading your cow speak correctly, you're telling me that you don't know the definition of "cite" lol.

@nyadc: kiddo I have been gaming on pc since 2001 and have more than 4-5 pc's. My last one was gtx 570 and then I had r9 290x crossfire but now use only a single because of overheating.!3 games on steam?you are blind cause I have 18 and 28 if you include free to play games.

I7 4770k what difference does this make an i7 is more powerful than an i5 right? or is it unless you buy a 400-450$ processor it won't match the performance of a console?And i play games on myboth my console and pc not only on a pc. And Till last year I was buying physical copied of pc games and never added them to steam.So sorry kid I have a pc and I know more about technology than you.

And I asked you to link your steam profile and post images of your specs. Not post someone elses youtube video about his setup.

@skullcavity: okay so If I am reading your hermit slave speak correctly,you are telling me that you don't know the definition of 'cite' right?

from the starting original post of this thread and many comments after that I have been doing that.just stop being blind.

@skullcavity: And I also I posted my pc specs So I know more about pc and console than you do.

It's time hermits accept that there is no game on pc that still looks as good as kz sf.

Why is this still open?

@vickysaiyajin: k

Oh sure you have... Sure, sure...

Let's see, why a K series CPU... Oh I don't know, the ability to overclock the processor maybe... Kind of a big thing these days and can add considerable time to the longevity and relevance of a build not to mention make your computer considerably more powerful. Also you still didn't address having speedstep enabled, like a damn newbie...

Oh I've heard that story before, I'm sure you just recently migrated to Steam as a PC gamer for years and years, and years... You know 11+ years after the platform came to be and physical copies of PC games have been nearly non-existent for the last 5 years...

I posted my Steam profile link and my CPU-Z, and on top of that a video of my game room, you did ask to see my PC hardware and all of my consoles and you got exactly what you asked for.

@vickysaiyajin: