Ultimate Killer Instinct interview....Sorry Cows, they got it right.

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#101 Ly_the_Fairy
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Looks sick :shock:

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Very sexy :oops:

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#102 OhSnapitz
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..M$ can have that Sh!t.. I've officially "jumped out.." (still love my 360 though :P )
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#103 TigerSuperman
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[QUOTE="TigerSuperman"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Not convincing. Double Helix is the developer and are taking interviews. What is left of the new Kinect friendly RARE can help, but the EPIC RARE talent that RARE fans came to love, most left long ago. M$ gutted them. This KI game is looking to be a bastard child of what I love, Killer Instinct. As I said before, nothing is final until I get to play it, BUT, the HYPE is gone.

Do you know RARE's history? It's a long and storied chronicle, one I won't tell here, but my confidence in RARE making a great KI game was shot long before this announcement, although I have more faith in RARE doing this than Double f***inig Helix.

As I said, HYPE would have been there if M$ pitched in more of that TV money and hired Capcom, Namco, Sega, SNK, Arc System Works, NetherRealm Studios, or some of the new fighting game indies like Reverge Labs, whoever instead of shitty Double Helix.

RARE will have their work cut out for them working ON THE SIDE while they are making their OWN GAMES with such shoddy talent. THIS IS NOT A DREAM TEAM ANNOUNCEMENT that fans have waited decades for.

SolidTy

2 of the MAIN game designers for KI are working with Double Helix

and are still at RARE, there is virtually no excuse, if you don't like the New KI, you never liked KI. Of course, my opinion is that KI was never good anyway.

:lol: What? hahaha. I would own you at KI and let you pick my character before I squashed you if you were my neighbor...hahaha. I am a fighting gamer.

RARE should have been teamed up with triple A fighting game studios, those two guys are surrounded my mediocrity. If we are lucky we'll get probably get a merely competent game instead of the amazing game we deserve...that's if we are lucky and this game doesn't just suck.

This reminds em of John Tobias and TAO FANG: Fist of the Lotus all over again (I own that buy the way). I don't want it to suck, but I remember the day that came out, and I remember the marketing, HYPE, and PR used to get me in the store. That was OG Xbox days, I've been gaming a long time.

Sorry, but two unknowns helping out =/= John Tobias at that point in his career. Getting away from fighting games, we can look at Lorne Lanning, John Romero, or even Warren Spector as guys that worked better within a certain culture. I have already been burned by Xbox 1st party fighting games. M$ pinched some pennies, and hired sucky Double Helix, but they should have taken some of that SPIELBURG/TV money and gave it to Capcom, SEGA, or Namco to do KI right. Those two designers you mentioned, they deserve better, and so do the real KI fans.

They were the two guys that pretty much made the whole system for the gameplay. What unknowns? I say wait for more previews to come out.
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#104 TigerSuperman
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[QUOTE="TigerSuperman"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Not convincing. Double Helix is the developer and are taking interviews. What is left of the new Kinect friendly RARE can help, but the EPIC RARE talent that RARE fans came to love, most left long ago. M$ gutted them. This KI game is looking to be a bastard child of what I love, Killer Instinct. As I said before, nothing is final until I get to play it, BUT, the HYPE is gone.

Do you know RARE's history? It's a long and storied chronicle, one I won't tell here, but my confidence in RARE making a great KI game was shot long before this announcement, although I have more faith in RARE doing this than Double f***inig Helix.

As I said, HYPE would have been there if M$ pitched in more of that TV money and hired Capcom, Namco, Sega, SNK, Arc System Works, NetherRealm Studios, or some of the new fighting game indies like Reverge Labs, whoever instead of shitty Double Helix.

RARE will have their work cut out for them working ON THE SIDE while they are making their OWN GAMES with such shoddy talent. THIS IS NOT A DREAM TEAM ANNOUNCEMENT that fans have waited decades for.

SolidTy

2 of the MAIN game designers for KI are working with Double Helix

and are still at RARE, there is virtually no excuse, if you don't like the New KI, you never liked KI. Of course, my opinion is that KI was never good anyway.

:lol: What? hahaha. I would own you at KI and let you pick my character before I squashed you if you were my neighbor...hahaha. I am a fighting gamer.

RARE should have been teamed up with triple A fighting game studios, those two guys are surrounded my mediocrity. If we are lucky we'll get probably get a merely competent game instead of the amazing game we deserve...that's if we are lucky and this game doesn't just suck.

This reminds em of John Tobias and TAO FANG: Fist of the Lotus all over again (I own that buy the way). I don't want it to suck, but I remember the day that came out, and I remember the marketing, HYPE, and PR used to get me in the store. That was OG Xbox days, I've been gaming a long time.

Sorry, but two unknowns helping out =/= John Tobias at that point in his career. Getting away from fighting games, we can look at Lorne Lanning, John Romero, or even Warren Spector as guys that worked better within a certain culture. I have already been burned by Xbox 1st party fighting games. M$ pinched some pennies, and hired sucky Double Helix, but they should have taken some of that SPIELBURG/TV money and gave it to Capcom, SEGA, or Namco to do KI right. Those two designers you mentioned, they deserve better, and so do the real KI fans.

Also adding, you probably could beat me at KI, it's a terrible fighting franchise that was never good and has the dpeth of a puddle on the sidewalk.
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#105 LJS9502_basic
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Cows are so butthurt about this. RIP...percech
I doubt that. The PS gets fighting games if that is what they want to play. KI isn't exactly a household name is it?
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#106 xWoW_Rougex
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I just looked back on some youtube video of Killer Instinct on N64 and I gotta say, it feels so different. I really like how the N64 version had much more voices (like everytime someone got it) and I really love that funky 90's music. Or how about those "echo screams" after you defeat someone. (Ah ah ah ah"

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#107 TigerSuperman
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[QUOTE="percech"]Cows are so butthurt about this. RIP...LJS9502_basic
I doubt that. The PS gets fighting games if that is what they want to play. KI isn't exactly a household name is it?

You would be surprised at the millions following that game. I think it's nostalgia though. Even though the series was never good....Ever....
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#108 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="percech"]Cows are so butthurt about this. RIP...TigerSuperman
I doubt that. The PS gets fighting games if that is what they want to play. KI isn't exactly a household name is it?

You would be surprised at the millions following that game. I think it's nostalgia though. Even though the series was never good....Ever....

You can't go back again.....I thought Goldeneye taught gamers that.
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#109 stayhigh1
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this game looked like crap and its not even being made be RARE..xboners fan  will bend over for M$ anytime they tell them too

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#110 TigerSuperman
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="TigerSuperman"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I doubt that. The PS gets fighting games if that is what they want to play. KI isn't exactly a household name is it?

You would be surprised at the millions following that game. I think it's nostalgia though. Even though the series was never good....Ever....

You can't go back again.....I thought Goldeneye taught gamers that.

Apparently not, KI got Gametrailers poll for Xbox wiiu, and PS4, and brought the Xboxone right next to the PS3 in second place by itself alone.
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The way the message was initially put out about the pay system was bad. They should've said something to the effect of, "yes, you can buy the full game , but we also have other options available instead of starting of with the whole game is free and you can add players for a nominal fee." Now the next hurdle for the game will be the craptastic track record of the developers behind it.

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#112 timbers_WSU
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this game looked like crap and its not even being made be RARE..xboners fan  will bend over for M$ anytime they tell them too

stayhigh1

Been a while since we seen one of these stupid comments. "Another Killzone? Cows will bend over anytime $ony tells them too...." Honesty......Don't be a dick for one day, see what it is like.

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The way the message was initially put out about the pay system was bad. They should've said something to the effect of, "yes, you can buy the full game , but we also have other options available instead of starting of with the whole game is free and you can add players for a nominal fee." Now the next hurdle for the game will be the craptastic track record of the developers behind it.

bez2083
It is a new team under the Double Helix name. Almost all have been involved with other fighters. Of course if you actually watched the video........
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#114 mitu123
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[QUOTE="bez2083"]

The way the message was initially put out about the pay system was bad. They should've said something to the effect of, "yes, you can buy the full game , but we also have other options available instead of starting of with the whole game is free and you can add players for a nominal fee." Now the next hurdle for the game will be the craptastic track record of the developers behind it.

timbers_WSU

It is a new team under the Double Helix name. Almost all have been involved with other fighters. Of course if you actually watched the video........

Most people don't watch the video, lol.

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[QUOTE="bez2083"]

The way the message was initially put out about the pay system was bad. They should've said something to the effect of, "yes, you can buy the full game , but we also have other options available instead of starting of with the whole game is free and you can add players for a nominal fee." Now the next hurdle for the game will be the craptastic track record of the developers behind it.

timbers_WSU

It is a new team under the Double Helix name. Almost all have been involved with other fighters. Of course if you actually watched the video........

You are gulping the kool-aid if guys who worked on Skullgirls and the old SFII games excites you.......color me unimpressed.

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[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"][QUOTE="bez2083"]

The way the message was initially put out about the pay system was bad. They should've said something to the effect of, "yes, you can buy the full game , but we also have other options available instead of starting of with the whole game is free and you can add players for a nominal fee." Now the next hurdle for the game will be the craptastic track record of the developers behind it.

mitu123

It is a new team under the Double Helix name. Almost all have been involved with other fighters. Of course if you actually watched the video........

Most people don't watch the video, lol.

I'm not most people, though.

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#117 OhSnapitz
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[QUOTE="bez2083"]

The way the message was initially put out about the pay system was bad. They should've said something to the effect of, "yes, you can buy the full game , but we also have other options available instead of starting of with the whole game is free and you can add players for a nominal fee." Now the next hurdle for the game will be the craptastic track record of the developers behind it.

timbers_WSU
It is a new team under the Double Helix name. Almost all have been involved with other fighters. Of course if you actually watched the video........

I'm quite sure the game will turn out ok.. but they've got some "proven" to do..
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#118 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"] It is a new team under the Double Helix name. Almost all have been involved with other fighters. Of course if you actually watched the video........bez2083

Most people don't watch the video, lol.

I'm not most people, though.

Dammit.:P

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#119 R3FURBISHED
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Looks sick :shock:

HaRmLeSS_RaGe

Holy damn, now I remember why I don't play fighting games - because I suck!

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[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"][QUOTE="bez2083"]

The way the message was initially put out about the pay system was bad. They should've said something to the effect of, "yes, you can buy the full game , but we also have other options available instead of starting of with the whole game is free and you can add players for a nominal fee." Now the next hurdle for the game will be the craptastic track record of the developers behind it.

OhSnapitz

It is a new team under the Double Helix name. Almost all have been involved with other fighters. Of course if you actually watched the video........

I'm quite sure the game will turn out ok.. but they've got some "proven" to do..

Absolutely.....I want this game to be great. This game was my personal favorite fighter growing up and something that I had been hoping would get resurrected, I just don't want to see it messed up. Too much stuff from my childhood has been turned to dog shit, this sucking might put me over the top.

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#121 xscrapzx
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Once again just overeaction from people that just want to bash, good video.
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#122 Lord_Omikron666
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Its a fighting game. Remind me when fighting games were relevant. clyde46

Obviously you're not familiar with the fighting game community. 

Killer Instinct is probably the only game I'm really looking forward to for the Xbox One, and I've heard a lot of good impressions from people that got to play it.

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#123 Randolph
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Its Killer Instinct. why do we care? Since when has Killer Instinct been important or good?Nengo_Flow
Killer Instinct was a shit game in it's prime. It got the reputation it had because of it's then killer graphics and wacky combos. As a fighter, neither KI or KI2 were fundamentally sound games in any fashion. Killer Instinct's hype is based on nostalgia and nostalgia alone. When it's out, it will fizzle quickly as people realize it doesn't match up to their rose tinted memories of it.
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#124 GOGOGOGURT
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Looks nice, but fighting game, meh.Badosh

 

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#125 mitu123
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[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"]Its Killer Instinct. why do we care? Since when has Killer Instinct been important or good?Randolph
Killer Instinct was a shit game in it's prime. It got the reputation it had because of it's then killer graphics and wacky combos. As a fighter, neither KI or KI2 were fundamentally sound games in any fashion. Killer Instinct's hype is based on nostalgia and nostalgia alone. When it's out, it will fizzle quickly as people realize it doesn't match up to their rose tinted memories of it.

Really now? Those games received a good amount of praise.
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#126 joel_c17
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Horrible devs will = horrible game
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#127 Mandingo101
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[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"]Its Killer Instinct. why do we care? Since when has Killer Instinct been important or good?Randolph
Killer Instinct was a shit game in it's prime. It got the reputation it had because of it's then killer graphics and wacky combos. As a fighter, neither KI or KI2 were fundamentally sound games in any fashion. Killer Instinct's hype is based on nostalgia and nostalgia alone. When it's out, it will fizzle quickly as people realize it doesn't match up to their rose tinted memories of it.

They also had cool music and fun characters.
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#128 catfishmoon23
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I never played Killer Instinct before so I just don't have a nostalgic feeling to get me excited for this. Hopefully it turns out well though.

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#129 heeweesRus
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Double Helix is a terrible dev, so my hopes for this game aren't too high

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#130 Trail_Mix
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Good to know they're not trying to "nickel-and-dime" consumers with the game. I actually think what they're doing with the Demo/F2P thing is a pretty interesting concept too.

 

Also, off topic, but why not just link the video itself? 

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#131 schu
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I can be objective. I LOVE killer instinct. It is one of my favorite fighting games period. Just a very fun game. Even the original gameboy version was good with just two buttons!!  Still won't buy an xbone, but I won't pretend that I wish I could get this game on my PS4 or PC

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#132 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]Rare hasn't made fighting game in like 20 years so literally nothing can go wrong.mitu123

Rare is making this game with other devs, ones that have worked on fighting games like Street Fighter.

No it's developed by Rare and Double Helix games.

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#133 X_CAPCOM_X
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Its a fighting game. Remind me when fighting games were relevant. clyde46

Fighting games are the best...

No one is going to host a relevant event for KI though because of MS licensing.

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#134 timbers_WSU
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]Rare hasn't made fighting game in like 20 years so literally nothing can go wrong.rjdofu

Rare is making this game with other devs, ones that have worked on fighting games like Street Fighter.

No it's developed by Rare and Double Helix games.

In other words you didn't watch the video. The 2 producers worked with Namco's fighting games. The also hired some SF2 vets and the Skullgirls team. It is under the Double Helix umbrella but it is a built from scratch studio.

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#135 SecretPolice
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It's Rare, seems very cool and F2P I'll without doubt try it out but where oh where is my new Conker, Banjo, Kameo PD etc. Eh, I suppose there's still a bunch of time between now and launch but I want more.

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#136 HaRmLeSS_RaGe
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It's Rare, seems very cool and F2P I'll without doubt try it out but where oh where is my new Conker, Banjo, Kameo PD etc. Eh, I suppose there's still a bunch of time between now and launch but I want more.

SecretPolice

 

Rare and Lionhead haven't shown their full hand yet. Most likely their games are late 2014 though.

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#137 ConanTheStoner
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[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"]Its Killer Instinct. why do we care? Since when has Killer Instinct been important or good?Randolph
Killer Instinct was a shit game in it's prime. It got the reputation it had because of it's then killer graphics and wacky combos. As a fighter, neither KI or KI2 were fundamentally sound games in any fashion. Killer Instinct's hype is based on nostalgia and nostalgia alone. When it's out, it will fizzle quickly as people realize it doesn't match up to their rose tinted memories of it.

Well you forgot to mention ridiculous combos.  That was still newish at the time.

But it really never was anything special, just good enough to take my quarters from time to time.  

And as far as fighters have come since then, it would have to be so much better than it ever was if they hope for it to even be relevant.

That said, I would pick it up in a heart beat for 5, maybe 10 bucks.

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#138 musalala
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Some points

  • The original team that made the first Killer instict such a hit is gone I doubt this team will do a good Job of recreating the magic of KI
  • Its actaully not free to play as you have to pay for xbox live first then purchase each indvidual character you want (and God nows what else)
  • Its a nice Ip but its not a system seller I cannot name one single Fighter that was a system seller since Street Fighter 2 on the snes
  • This is sad and desperate that lems have been brought this low that they want to hype a free to play game as a Killa App.
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#139 ultraking
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KI was awesome back in the day. id play this if it was on ps4 or pc. Tekken tag 2 will always be the best fighting game tho.
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#140 no-scope-AK47
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I would like to play killer instinct but the company making it and the spybox1 means most likely I won't. I was really shocked at how the graphics looked. If nothing else KI had the best graphics of any fighting game back in the day.

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#141 Joedgabe
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meh.... Waiting for Super Street fighter alpha 4. Only fighting game that matters.

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#142 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

It's Rare, seems very cool and F2P I'll without doubt try it out but where oh where is my new Conker, Banjo, Kameo PD etc. Eh, I suppose there's still a bunch of time between now and launch but I want more.

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Rare and Lionhead haven't shown their full hand yet. Most likely their games are late 2014 though.

Rare has what, the new KS & KI but i'm thinking One more for launch yet to be announced - LH, eh, I could see them not in the launch window but still a chance.

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#143 HaRmLeSS_RaGe
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[QUOTE="HaRmLeSS_RaGe"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

It's Rare, seems very cool and F2P I'll without doubt try it out but where oh where is my new Conker, Banjo, Kameo PD etc. Eh, I suppose there's still a bunch of time between now and launch but I want more.

SecretPolice

Rare and Lionhead haven't shown their full hand yet. Most likely their games are late 2014 though.

Rare has what, the new KS & KI but i'm thinking One more for launch yet to be announced - LH, eh, I could see them not in the launch window but still a chance.

 

Rare have made Kinect Sports and are only part developing KI. I'm sure they are working on something else too. Whatever Lionhead are doing must be a way off otherwise it would have been at E3 probably. Having said that I think they have more game announcements coming up at Gamescom and other places so who knows :shock:

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#144 mitu123
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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]Rare hasn't made fighting game in like 20 years so literally nothing can go wrong.rjdofu

Rare is making this game with other devs, ones that have worked on fighting games like Street Fighter.

No it's developed by Rare and Double Helix games.

Did you watch the video?
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#145 Pikminmaniac
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Its a fighting game. Remind me when fighting games were relevant. clyde46

Looks at evo... They are still very VERY relevent and continue to grow in popularity.

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#146 King_Dodongo
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Hopefully they will bring justice to this long dormant franchise. I had good memories playing KI on arcades.
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#147 no-scope-AK47
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Hopefully they will bring justice to this long dormant franchise. I had good memories playing KI on arcades. King_Dodongo
Same here but I really doubt the game will even be on a par with the old game. I know we would all like to see games from back in the day come back. This is a free to play game and that most likely means it won't be on the level of modern fighters. I also never really heard of this dev besides silent hill.

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#148 ants83
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What's Killer Instinct??? You guys serious? Or just all little kids :|

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#149 mitu123
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What's Killer Instinct??? You guys serious? Or just all little kids :|

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Probably the latter.=p
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#150 no-scope-AK47
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What's Killer Instinct??? You guys serious? Or just all little kids :|

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Sorry if this is before your time young gun but the elders in the game used to go to a place called the arcade. There I would put in a quarter and play till the game ended or somebody else took me off. It was great to lay it down on the next gamer and watch him insert money over and over again. To watch him reach into his pocket and then say can somebody lend me a quarter. That was priceless unless you was there you will never understand why we have such fond memories of old games.