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[QUOTE="locopatho"]I don't understand how you can control a 3d game with one stick? The stylus isn't enough unless you aren't hitting buttons? Don't really know how to hold the 3DS, found Zelda unplayable. Will stick with VC version I think :DShinobishyguy

Nintendo needs to make an advanced wars 3DS NAO!!!

That conference was so boring

Let it be forever remembered. Nintendo bounced back in full force. ;) Not one mention of a revision or that analog attachment :o

Let it be forever remembered. Nintendo bounced back in full force. ;) Not one mention of a revision or that analog attachment :o

mmmwksil

Vita dies? Over exaggeration. New MH titles will go on the Vita as well, and I'm willing to bet they'll sell more than 3DS versions as well.

Vita dies? Over exaggeration. New MH titles will go on the Vita as well, and I'm willing to bet they'll sell more than 3DS versions as well.

minh800

I'll take that bet. PSP did so well..... DS started off far worse than the 3ds and it crushed. MH will dominate the sales charts...on 3DS

[QUOTE="minh800"]

Vita dies? Over exaggeration. New MH titles will go on the Vita as well, and I'm willing to bet they'll sell more than 3DS versions as well.

Captain_Lorelli

I'll take that bet. PSP did so well..... DS started off far worse than the 3ds and it crushed. MH will dominate the sales charts...on 3DS

Haha, with less than HALF the install base in Japan, MHP3rd outsold Dragon Quest 9. I know which pony to bet on.

[QUOTE="Captain_Lorelli"]

[QUOTE="minh800"]

Vita dies? Over exaggeration. New MH titles will go on the Vita as well, and I'm willing to bet they'll sell more than 3DS versions as well.

minh800

I'll take that bet. PSP did so well..... DS started off far worse than the 3ds and it crushed. MH will dominate the sales charts...on 3DS

Haha, with less than HALF the install base in Japan, MHP3rd outsold Dragon Quest 9. I know which pony to be on.

[QUOTE="minh800"]

[QUOTE="Captain_Lorelli"]

I'll take that bet. PSP did so well..... DS started off far worse than the 3ds and it crushed. MH will dominate the sales charts...on 3DS

charizard1605

Haha, with less than HALF the install base in Japan, MHP3rd outsold Dragon Quest 9. I know which pony to be on.

I highly doubt MH4 is going to be released anytime soon. Chances are, Sony is still holding onto the actual Portable subseries. I don't think MH4 is coming onto the Vita at all. Even if the 3DS gets a new MH before the Vita, I still don't see it mattering. The 360 and Wii got new Tales games before the PS3 but the PS3's versions still outsold the rest (and it had about half the install base of the Wii). I imagine the same will happen with the Vita and 3DS.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="minh800"]

Haha, with less than HALF the install base in Japan, MHP3rd outsold Dragon Quest 9. I know which pony to be on.

minh800

I highly doubt MH4 is going to be released anytime soon. Chances are, Sony is still holding onto the actual Portable subseries. I don't think MH4 is coming onto the Vita at all. Even if the 3DS gets a new MH before the Vita, I still don't see it mattering. The 360 and Wii got new Tales games before the PS3 but the PS3's versions still outsold the rest (and it had about half the install base of the Wii). I imagine the same will happen with the Vita and 3DS.

[QUOTE="minh800"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]I highly doubt MH4 is going to the Vita anytime soon, not before the 3DS version is released and is a couple of months old, at the earliest.charizard1605

I highly doubt MH4 is going to be released anytime soon. Chances are, Sony is still holding onto the actual Portable subseries. I don't think MH4 is coming onto the Vita at all. Even if the 3DS gets a new MH before the Vita, I still don't see it mattering. The 360 and Wii got new Tales games before the PS3 but the PS3's versions still outsold the rest (and it had about half the install base of the Wii). I imagine the same will happen with the Vita and 3DS.

Reasons? Talking bout DQ9's Japan sales, not worldwide sales. Pretty sure MHP3rd's sales exceeded those (Square hasn't updated their numbers last time I checked).

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="minh800"]

I highly doubt MH4 is going to be released anytime soon. Chances are, Sony is still holding onto the actual Portable subseries. I don't think MH4 is coming onto the Vita at all. Even if the 3DS gets a new MH before the Vita, I still don't see it mattering. The 360 and Wii got new Tales games before the PS3 but the PS3's versions still outsold the rest (and it had about half the install base of the Wii). I imagine the same will happen with the Vita and 3DS.

minh800

Reasons? Talking bout DQ9's Japan sales, not worldwide sales. Pretty sure MHP3rd's sales exceeded those (Square hasn't updated their numbers last time I checked).

[QUOTE="minh800"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Oh no, Monster Hunter 4 will sell more on the 3DS. Tour point about Dragon quest 9 is a very good point, but we don't really have a way of comparing the two, simply because maybe it can be argued that Monster Hunter's commercial power is greater than Dragon Quest? Also, Dragon Quest 9 outsold all PSP Monster Hunters overall. Monster Hunter did sell faster though.charizard1605

Reasons? Talking bout DQ9's Japan sales, not worldwide sales. Pretty sure MHP3rd's sales exceeded those (Square hasn't updated their numbers last time I checked).

4.7 million in Japan alone. It hasn't been released worldwide. Even if it was released worldwide, it probably wouldn't exceed DQ9's international sales but thats only because the PSP is dead in the West.

I'd still like to hear some reasons why MH4 will sell more on the 3DS than a new Portable game on the Vita.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="minh800"]

Reasons? Talking bout DQ9's Japan sales, not worldwide sales. Pretty sure MHP3rd's sales exceeded those (Square hasn't updated their numbers last time I checked).

minh800

4.7 million in Japan alone. It hasn't been released worldwide. Even if it was released worldwide, it probably wouldn't exceed DQ9's international sales but thats only because the PSP is dead in the West.

I'd still like to hear some reasons why MH4 will sell more on the 3DS than a new Portable game on the Vita.

[QUOTE="minh800"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Dragon Quest 9 sold 4.3 million in Japan, and 1.6 million worldwide. Square didn't update those numbers because Nintendo published the title everywhere else, and that 1.6 million number comes from them. Dragon Quest sold more, ultimately.charizard1605

4.7 million in Japan alone. It hasn't been released worldwide. Even if it was released worldwide, it probably wouldn't exceed DQ9's international sales but thats only because the PSP is dead in the West.

I'd still like to hear some reasons why MH4 will sell more on the 3DS than a new Portable game on the Vita.

I'm saying that core games sell better on devices that target core gamers. So far, nothing I've seen has made me rethink my position. This is no different. The Vita is more poised as a core gamer's device than the 3DS.

Isn't that a baseless assumption? Did the entire MGS fanbase pick up the PSP and MGS games up? No. Did the entire Tales fanbase pick up Graces and the Wii? No. Would the entire GTA fanbase pick up a WiiU and the game for an exclusive game? No. Why would the MH fanbase pick up the 3DS for it? Why should we judge them any differently?

I think those Pokemon, Layton, and Animal Crossing crowds wouldn't be that interested in MH.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="minh800"]

4.7 million in Japan alone. It hasn't been released worldwide. Even if it was released worldwide, it probably wouldn't exceed DQ9's international sales but thats only because the PSP is dead in the West.

I'd still like to hear some reasons why MH4 will sell more on the 3DS than a new Portable game on the Vita.

minh800

I'm saying that core games sell better on devices that target core gamers. So far, nothing I've seen has made me rethink my position. This is no different. The Vita is more poised as a core gamer's device than the 3DS.

Isn't that a baseless assumption? Did the entire MGS fanbase pick up the PSP and MGS games up? No. Did the entire Tales fanbase pick up Graces and the Wii? No. Would the entire GTA fanbase pick up a WiiU and the game for an exclusive game? No. Why would the MH fanbase pick up the 3DS for it? Why should we judge them any differently?

I think those Pokemon, Layton, and Animal Crossing crowds wouldn't be that interested in MH.

[QUOTE="minh800"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Well, see, for starters, you are assuming that Monster Hunter fans identify the series with the PSP whereas I argue that might not necessarily be the case. If the games had been on the DS, who knows how much they would have sold? I argue that the games will sell more on the 3DS for a simple reason- not only will the core Monster Hunter fanbase pick the 3DS and the 3DS versions up, but the Pokemon+Animal Crossing+Dragon Quest+Professor Layton crowd, that initially might have been interested in the series but never tried it out because it wasn't on the DS, will most likely decide to give the games a go too. By sheer numbers, I'm assuming the 3DS versions will sell more.charizard1605

I'm saying that core games sell better on devices that target core gamers. So far, nothing I've seen has made me rethink my position. This is no different. The Vita is more poised as a core gamer's device than the 3DS.

Isn't that a baseless assumption? Did the entire MGS fanbase pick up the PSP and MGS games up? No. Did the entire Tales fanbase pick up Graces and the Wii? No. Would the entire GTA fanbase pick up a WiiU and the game for an exclusive game? No. Why would the MH fanbase pick up the 3DS for it? Why should we judge them any differently?

I think those Pokemon, Layton, and Animal Crossing crowds wouldn't be that interested in MH.

Everything from aesthetics, to the hardware, and many of the announced games scream core to me much more than the 3DS. And since most of the "system sellers" I keep seeing for the 3DS feel more suited for general audiences (Nintendo fans, children, casuals), it just feels like that's what the 3DS will sell to - a general audience. Unlike the Vita which seems to target one specific group (and does so pretty well).

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="minh800"]

I'm saying that core games sell better on devices that target core gamers. So far, nothing I've seen has made me rethink my position. This is no different. The Vita is more poised as a core gamer's device than the 3DS.

Isn't that a baseless assumption? Did the entire MGS fanbase pick up the PSP and MGS games up? No. Did the entire Tales fanbase pick up Graces and the Wii? No. Would the entire GTA fanbase pick up a WiiU and the game for an exclusive game? No. Why would the MH fanbase pick up the 3DS for it? Why should we judge them any differently?

I think those Pokemon, Layton, and Animal Crossing crowds wouldn't be that interested in MH.

minh800

Everything from aesthetics, to the hardware, and many of the announced games scream core to me much more than the 3DS. And since most of the "system sellers" I keep seeing for the 3DS feel more suited for general audiences (Nintendo fans, children, casuals), it just feels like that's what the 3DS will sell to - a general audience. Unlike the Vita which seems to target one specific group (and does so pretty well).

[QUOTE="minh800"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] What makes you think the 3DS is less of a core gamers' device than the Vita? There is literally nothing that indicates this. And we'll see in about a years' time :Pcharizard1605

Everything from aesthetics, to the hardware, and many of the announced games scream core to me much more than the 3DS. And since most of the "system sellers" I keep seeing for the 3DS feel more suited for general audiences (Nintendo fans, children, casuals), it just feels like that's what the 3DS will sell to - a general audience. Unlike the Vita which seems to target one specific group (and does so pretty well).

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="minh800"]

Everything from aesthetics, to the hardware, and many of the announced games scream core to me much more than the 3DS. And since most of the "system sellers" I keep seeing for the 3DS feel more suited for general audiences (Nintendo fans, children, casuals), it just feels like that's what the 3DS will sell to - a general audience. Unlike the Vita which seems to target one specific group (and does so pretty well).

minh800

[QUOTE="minh800"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] I'd say the games will decide which is a core device. In which case, once again, we will see.charizard1605

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="minh800"] There's quite a bit more, I'd say. It's like the total core package VS... the 3DS :P

minh800

Game of the conference for me was Bravely Default. New IP and looked so good!

music was awesome too

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="minh800"]

I'm saying that core games sell better on devices that target core gamers. So far, nothing I've seen has made me rethink my position. This is no different. The Vita is more poised as a core gamer's device than the 3DS.

Isn't that a baseless assumption? Did the entire MGS fanbase pick up the PSP and MGS games up? No. Did the entire Tales fanbase pick up Graces and the Wii? No. Would the entire GTA fanbase pick up a WiiU and the game for an exclusive game? No. Why would the MH fanbase pick up the 3DS for it? Why should we judge them any differently?

I think those Pokemon, Layton, and Animal Crossing crowds wouldn't be that interested in MH.

minh800

Everything from aesthetics, to the hardware, and many of the announced games scream core to me much more than the 3DS. And since most of the "system sellers" I keep seeing for the 3DS feel more suited for general audiences (Nintendo fans, children, casuals), it just feels like that's what the 3DS will sell to - a general audience. Unlike the Vita which seems to target one specific group (and does so pretty well).

If anything Nintendo shot themselves in the foot and they may not totally recover from their own blunder giving Sony a perfect window to carve out a larger slice of pie this generation.Jynxzor

All this talk about monster hunter , I wonder if people here are actually excited for it or if their just excited that a game on the 3DS is actually gonna sell.. me being a MH fan since the first one on ps2 really just want a HD console version. Enough with the mh portablesultraking

So you would be against a HD mh on ps3?ultraking

[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

If you're going to have 1 stick you might as well have 2. The PSP showed us that analog movement is worth jack s*** without analog camera control in most games.

IMO Nintendo should have picked d-pad or dual analog right from the start, and stuck with it.

hakanakumono

No it doesn't.

I disagree. I've always had more fun playing them on my tv. Mh takes up a lot of time, and I don't want to be starring at a small screen for hours..But that's not gonna stop me from getting the vita version lolultraking

monster hunter 4 is big news but fire emblem is teh win!!!

monster hunter 4 is big news but fire emblem is teh win!!!

skanjos

[QUOTE="minh800"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Well, the 3DS does quite a fair bit, but... Ah, whatever. I love the Vita for what it promises to bring, and I seriously hope it does very well too. Two competitive handhelds on the market are much much better than one dominating handheld, as the DS/PSP proved :Dcharizard1605

Okay, so was anybody else really disappointed with everything shown about Fire Emblem?

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="minh800"] Oh yeah, I just want the Vita to succeed well enough so I can get more of what I loved on the PSP. I'm not worried about the 3DS sales wise. It should do well, hopefully not well enough to steal support.

minh800

yea in japan its not existant in america, and it still got destroyed why do you constantly bring this up over and over again

[QUOTE="minh800"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] the Vita will find its own niche like the PSP eventually did.Mario1331

yea in japan its not existant in america, and it still got destroyed why do you constantly bring this up over and over again

Because those games are FAR from niche. They would have been brought to the West if it wasn't for piracy and the unpopularness of the system. Not to mention that the PSP STOLE support from the DS meaning that games for the "winning" handheld were never made to even have the chance to be localized.

Destroyed? I care about the library, and just like I never ONCE thought the Wii destroyed anything, I'll never think the DS destroyed anything either.

[QUOTE="minh800"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] the Vita will find its own niche like the PSP eventually did.Mario1331

yea in japan its not existant in america, and it still got destroyed why do you constantly bring this up over and over again

RIP Vita, hardly knew you. Maybe next time, again.

Remeber what happened last time we were all excited for the 3DS. Yea... Didn't end too well.

I'm hoping for more news on the OS in the Vita (i.e. will patches be small, will patches be able to be downloaded in the background, etc....). Vita has the games I want (Killzone, Resistance, LBP, Assassin's Creed, Uncharted, Sound shapes, Little Deviants, and Bioshock), and I hope Sony fixes the problems like that that are on PS3.

Also, unconfirmed reports are saying Nov. 12th release in Japan.