SW Rewind: revisiting the classic Sony flop, The Order 1886

I couldn't deal with the frequency of cutscenes. It was just too much. If they make a sequel with more focus on the player at the cost of pushing the cinematic narrative, I will be all in. :)

Ryse exists and its MC score is even lower than The Order's. I couldn't care less about those games tbh, they're more like tech demos than anything.

I made it through Ryse, couldn't make it through The Order. Anytime a game refuses to have meaningful interactions with a certain time frame my gameplay A.D.D kicks in. My most recent poison was Hellblade the movie. :)

The game was ok. Had cool mustaches.

Enjoyed it on Youtube

@calvincfb: Who said anything about Ryse? Salty much? Lol.

And Ryse is the better game, because atleast there is actually gameplay.

The story was kinda neat, but you can tell it was rushed. The boss fights were beyond stupid, though. As for the visuals, the design was good but the film grain and motion blur were very aggressive. My favorite part about The Order 1886 were the resolution threads. Fighting with @tormentos and others about how the game wasn't native 1080p because of the black bars was pretty fun. That was one of the most creative goal post moves I've seen by cows on this board.

Very true. I got the platinum in The Order 1886 in under 6 hours I think. A single playthrough and then I had to redo the very beginning of a chapter to pick up a collectible I missed. Ryse had far better gameplay than The Order imo. I think Ryse got a bad rap for whatever reason. People killed the combat for the QTE/color cues, yet every 3rd person action game has used some sort of a variation since. I hate to be the conspiracy theorist here, but the gaming press kinda had it out for the Xbox One at launch. Ryse was better than The Order in every way...

The Order 1886 was a classic Sony flop?

Did ya kids forget about Lair? Or what about that shooter from Ubisoft with the drugged out super soldiers with black and yellow suits? Or MAG?

A 6 out of 10 for me. I bought it for $6 during a PSN sale. I found it to be somewhat entertaining. The story was a little predictable, there was too many QTE prompts and too little shooting. But as a tech demo of sorts, I thought it was okay. Nowhere worth the initial $60 retail price. And yes, Ryse was better. I would give that Xbox launch title a 7 out of 10.

@Rockman999: Very good point. Those three games you mentioned were probably worse than Order 1886.

Never played it. It just never really appealed to me.

7/10. Would love to get a sequel. Scott Rohde and Shu Yoshida probably didn't greenlight it because people like Colin and Greg kept on excessively bashing it. It is one of the things I dislike about Sony this gen. They should have doubled-down on the IP and made it better. But hey , maybe they greenlit Spider-Man instead. Who knows.

I was actually planning to replay it soon. I regret buying the $80 collectors edition but the game was solid. Great setting. Fun gameplay. I believe the game was initially said to be a co-op based game so it was a let down not to be able to roam that universe with a friend. Other than that though, I really enjoyed it.

It was actually shitty at everything but the game length focus was too much. I believe that controversy caused UC4 to be delayed and stretched out.

Excellent setting with terrible cutscene-to-gameplay ratio, as well as being blurry as all Hell. A sequel based upon the setting, with how we've seen Sony studios grow... That would be great.

Loved the game. Hope we gets a sequel cause damn world building in this game is so good! I dislike the american setting for next game if there is, should have stayed in london.

The Blur: 1886 was a blurfest. So, it is all a blur to me now as it was back then. hehe ;)

I actually really enjoyed the order, however I only paid 10 bucks for the game. I do not mind cut scenes in games.

@Rockman999: I thought MAG was awesome.

I'd give it an honest 6/10. A "fair". It's definitely NOT "good", but it's got redeeming qualities. Most notably, the world and gadgets hint at a good game that could have been. The biggest problem for me is it was so SO short, that literally every cool gadget was a one-off use and every cool location or hint of lore was also one-and-done. There was no opportunity to grow attached to the characters, or learn to use the gadgets, or decided to use them to tackle different problems, or...

shallow as puddle, but it had the right ingredients to be quite deep and engrossing. I hope they get another shot to do something way way way more involved with it.

Nah it got average scores because it was an average cinematic combat game. Far more basic then even the basic combat games of today. At least the average games of today include some details for players to express themselves. The use of qte are not its problems. Did not invent or even popularize qte mechanics in any form this gen. Absolutely no cred should be given to it, not even close. I agree its a better game to play then The Order. Beatiful and you can actually enjoy the ride nothing wrong with that. There are other games to cry out xbox is a victim then Ryse IMO.

I don't really care about game length. 4 hours is a good length, though maybe not for $60.

I never played it because the game play looked very flat. I was into the setting.

I always forget about this game when talking about PS4 exclusives. Maybe when the PS5 comes out and I can grab a digital copy for $5 I'll try it. Probably not though. Just doesn't seem like my thing in the game play dept.

@pyro1245:

Its the slow walking around that can be tedious.

The shooting is on the much better side. It doesnt feel as light as most tps. It feels like it has weight or momentum to both the player character and ai. Its rather difficult to describe, but it has a pop to it. Better than Uncharted and Gears in this respect.

A little short but I enjoyed it............ graphically it looks amazing with one of the most realistic lighting and PBR material systems ever put in to a game.

In fact, off the top of my head I can't think of a single game that has a more realistic PBR implementation.

Now is that you being a dumb ass fan boy or is that you having actually played both?

Because I've played both and that comment is retarded.

@scatteh316: Yes I have played both... and I had zero desire to finish The Order. Might as well just watch a movie.

And just because you disagree with it because it gets your fanboy panties in a bunch, doesn't mean it's "retarded".

So you've had a quick 5 minutes on it.....hardly a good basis for an opinion...... I only played Odyssey for a short while and it was shit...... Horizion (which I completed) is the far superior game.

I went to GS to buy Uncharted 4 for $10, but it was 4 for $20, and only thing I could find worth a damn was 1886, Division and Yooka.

So I figured $5 each. For that cost, it was fine, but I get why people thought it was a bust, and obviously not in same realm as later PS4 exclusives.

@scatteh316: You have no idea how long I played it for... But hey, whatever makes you feel better.

And as for Odyssey and Horizon, good for you. I couldn't care less :)

I enjoyed both Ryse and The Order. I've played far worse launch games.

The difference being that QTEs in Ryse were completely pointless. You couldn't fail them. Even if you didn't press a button at all you killed the enemy.

I really enjoyed it. I admittedly went in with tempered expectations but it delivered. The story was great, and the gameplay solid.

It is flawed, and its far from a goty, but I enjoyed what I played

You missed my point entirely.

Both games were hyped then flopped.

Both are bad games, but they're more like tech demos than games.

Still, The Order sold more and has a higher MC than Ryse.

I have a ps4, a switch and a 3ds, unlike you, sad xbox owned, I have games available to play, I'm not salty.

Next time, think before you write so you can spare yourself from some ownage.

@calvincfb: Lmao... this is the dumbest post I've read on here in a while. Congrats.

I didn't like the film grain. I hate film grain in games.

It's a forgettable release, like most of Sony's 1st party games that aren't Naughty Dog.

Comeback with a good counterpoint to what I said, stay owned till then.

It doesn't deserve a good counterpoint... if you don't know why, then that says it all.

Have a nice day :)

yeah same.

it was choc full of mechanics and cliches that i hate in gaming. constantly wrestling control from the player. qte central. hand holding. ultra linearity. limited mechanics. "interactive" cut scenes.

returned to it a year later to see if i was being unfair initially. i wasn't. disliked it more second time round

I do know why: because you're a sad owned lem. lmao

I enjoyed this game for what it was. Worth $5 to me

I actually really enjoyed it. It wasn't perfect but I would have liked to see a sequel.

Both have nice graphics and mediocre gameplay. I played The Order 1886 the most and got the platinum trophy for it and Ryse I didn’t even finish it.

I actually enjoyed it a lot and beat it a couple times. It had its issues, but I thought the story was great and the gameplay was solid, and I loved the setting and atmosphere. I'd give it like an 8.

I was off work sick the day if came out; so I watched the whole thing on Twitch, decent, but I wouldn't have been happy paying for it.

18.86 should have been the price.

It flopped for the price. 60 bucks and like 3 hours of gameplay.

Ummm....you serious? Unless you're talking about the idea or setting I don't see how story was even remotely 'neat'.