Sony's 1st party has deteriorated a shocking amount in recent years

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="Gargus"]

 

If you werent such a mindless fanboy that does nothing but constantly knock sony in every single thread (even ones that arent about sony) I might actually have read what you said and tried to have a serious discussion with you. But youre a fanboy which automatically makes anything you ever say on these terribly biased, and your facts are often wrong because you say them only wanting to say something against sony and youre so closed minded you refuse to actually consider what someone has to say that also isnt a xbox fanboy.

 

You only post purely to agitate others and cause a flame war. I cant imagine to begin to understand why anyone would try reading what you say. But thats the thing, people will always feed the trolls I guess.

rjdofu

I think it's because he knows his precious American product is going to lose next-gen.

Do you have multiple personality disorder, or you just forgot to change account?

http://au.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29431439/why-microsoft-will-win-the-next-console-battle

He's just switching sides everyday, he likes to have his fun :D

Who are you attempting to convince? Us, or yourself? :lol:

It's better than Microsoft's...

AvatarMan96

'Hey guize, we're not great but we're better than MS' LOL

Oh how the mighty have fallen

[QUOTE="AvatarMan96"]

It's better than Microsoft's...

RR360DD

'Hey guize, we're not great but we're better than MS' LOL

Oh how the mighty have fallen

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

Oh please list all 1st PARTY ONLY MS studios and the games they are working on so we can compare the amount and the quality.

Otherwise be owned and shut up!

Benny_Blakk

:lol:

Why are you having a hissy fit when the thread is clearly about Sonys studios? And why bring up Microsoft? Do lems brag about MSs 1st party on a daily basis? No, that would be cows. I've never claimed MSs 1st party is awesome or untouchable, yet Ive seen cows call Sonys all that, better than Nintendos, etc. So ...

#dealwithit

:cool:

Nice.

This thread 

[QUOTE="zeeshanhaider"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]Nope, plus Beyond is getting crappy previews. Not looking good :cool:ManatuBeard

I really pray that Sony buys them. I don't want them to succeed and grow as a multiplat dev and spread their movie nonsense across all platforms. It would be best if they keep their trash to one platform. We already having games like Ryse etc because of the Sony first party teh cinametic trend.:evil:

They said on an interview that the relationship they have with Sony now is pratically like being 1st party. They were one of the 1st studios to get a PS4 devkit, that alone shows how much Sony cares for them.

They said that Sony backs them with money without making pressure about game content or release dates. They also said that developing for a single platform allows them to focus more in the game content and quality.

:lol:

Damn that's an amazing list of quality AAAE devs from Sony. Thanks for reminding me how awesome Sony's 1st party is. I'd say they're even better than before since they got rid of developers that were making crap and now have several teams in the quality studios like ND, GG, and Santa Monica. Can't wait to see what they're capable of on a system like the PS4.

Says a Lem who supports a company that doesn't even have first party :lol: Really lems shouldn't be allowed to complain about anything they always get the worst deals so respect your superiors lems.kuraimen

'Guize im gonna try and divert attention to microsoft so that Sony doesn't look so bad :cry:'

:lol: keep trying

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Says a Lem who supports a company that doesn't even have first party :lol: Really lems shouldn't be allowed to complain about anything they always get the worst deals so respect your superiors lems.RR360DD

'Guize im gonna try and divert attention to microsoft so that Sony doesn't look so bad :cry:'

:lol: keep trying

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Says a Lem who supports a company that doesn't even have first party :lol: Really lems shouldn't be allowed to complain about anything they always get the worst deals so respect your superiors lems.kuraimen

'Guize im gonna try and divert attention to microsoft so that Sony doesn't look so bad :cry:'

:lol: keep trying

Sorry bro, this isn't a comparison thread. I never brought up MS, it was some butthurt cows who did as they have no other way to defend Sony lmao

:cool:

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

'Guize im gonna try and divert attention to microsoft so that Sony doesn't look so bad :cry:'

:lol: keep trying

RR360DD

Sorry bro, this isn't a comparison thread. I never brought up MS, it was some butthurt cows who did as they have no other way to defend Sony lmao

:cool:

I too believe that Sony's 1st party is somewhat overrated but I prefer theirs to MS and Nintendo. Also, does MS actually own Gears, is it 1st party?MightyMuna

I know this is a troll thread but you do make a point. The only quality studio they have is Naughty Dog. Santa Monica hasn't made anything really other than God of War and Sucker Punch is way way overrated. And Polyphony is a second class developer now. Turn 10, Codemasters, Playground, and Slightly Mad are all better. It is ridiculous how far they fell.
I do think Guerrilla is getting better and better though. I also think Ready at Dawn makes good stuff. Not sure if Sony owns them or not. Sony will probably get a few new studios down the road. They will be fine. But right now I would argue they have the worst first party at the moment.

I know this is a troll thread but you do make a point. The only quality studio they have is Naughty Dog. Santa Monica hasn't made anything really other than God of War and Sucker Punch is way way overrated. And Polyphony is a second class developer now. Turn 10, Codemasters, Playground, and Slightly Mad are all better. It is ridiculous how far they fell.
I do think Guerrilla is getting better and better though. I also think Ready at Dawn makes good stuff. Not sure if Sony owns them or not. Sony will probably get a few new studios down the road. They will be fine. But right now I would argue they have the worst first party at the moment.

timbers_WSU

:lol:

No, that would be Microsoft.

Forza is AA now. Halo is AA now.

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] You're one of m$ most butthurt representatives you divert you're own threads all by yourself :cool:kuraimen

Sorry bro, this isn't a comparison thread. I never brought up MS, it was some butthurt cows who did as they have no other way to defend Sony lmao

:cool:

When did I say i didn't like comparisons?

I guess its the only way cows can defend Sonys deteriorating 1st party, so I'll allow it.

:cool:

Japan Studios has multiple teams in 2013 alone they had/will have 5 different games.

Soul Sacrifice
rain
Puppeteer
Destiny of Spirits
Knack

In 2014 they have Freedom Wars scheduled.

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

I know this is a troll thread but you do make a point. The only quality studio they have is Naughty Dog. Santa Monica hasn't made anything really other than God of War and Sucker Punch is way way overrated. And Polyphony is a second class developer now. Turn 10, Codemasters, Playground, and Slightly Mad are all better. It is ridiculous how far they fell.
I do think Guerrilla is getting better and better though. I also think Ready at Dawn makes good stuff. Not sure if Sony owns them or not. Sony will probably get a few new studios down the road. They will be fine. But right now I would argue they have the worst first party at the moment.

CallOfDutyRulez

:lol:

No, that would be Microsoft.

Forza is AA now. Halo is AA now.

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

I know this is a troll thread but you do make a point. The only quality studio they have is Naughty Dog. Santa Monica hasn't made anything really other than God of War and Sucker Punch is way way overrated. And Polyphony is a second class developer now. Turn 10, Codemasters, Playground, and Slightly Mad are all better. It is ridiculous how far they fell.
I do think Guerrilla is getting better and better though. I also think Ready at Dawn makes good stuff. Not sure if Sony owns them or not. Sony will probably get a few new studios down the road. They will be fine. But right now I would argue they have the worst first party at the moment.

MonsieurX

:lol:

No, that would be Microsoft.

Forza is AA now. Halo is AA now.

Keep crying, inferior gamer. I'll be enjoying my awesome Naughty Dog games on the PS4 while you low class gamers will be playing 72-metacritic Halo 5. :lol:

Japan Studios has multiple teams in 2013 alone they had/will have 5 different games.

Soul Sacrifice
rain
Puppeteer
Destiny of Spirits
Knack

In 2014 they have Freedom Wars scheduled.

Nintendo_Ownes7

You mean 7.5 soul sacrifice? LOL

Rain is another one of those stupid arty 'experiences'. Destiny of Spirits looks god awful, as does Knack.

Puppeteer could be okay, certainly not AAA quality.

I know this is a troll thread but you do make a point. The only quality studio they have is Naughty Dog. Santa Monica hasn't made anything really other than God of War and Sucker Punch is way way overrated. And Polyphony is a second class developer now. Turn 10, Codemasters, Playground, and Slightly Mad are all better. It is ridiculous how far they fell.
I do think Guerrilla is getting better and better though. I also think Ready at Dawn makes good stuff. Not sure if Sony owns them or not. Sony will probably get a few new studios down the road. They will be fine. But right now I would argue they have the worst first party at the moment.

timbers_WSU

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

:lol:

No, that would be Microsoft.

Forza is AA now. Halo is AA now.

CallOfDutyRulez

Keep crying, inferior gamer. I'll be enjoying my awesome Naughty Dog games on the PS4 while you low class gamers will be playing 72-metacritic Halo 5. :lol:

Also , Insomniac and Quantic Dream are not 1st party, they're 2nd party kinda like Remedy to MS. Also, Ready at Dawn is 2nd party. 

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]worst? I disagree. I prefer them to Nintendo and MS but I'll concede that Nintendo is still the best, MS on the other hand, other than Halo, Forza and Fable, what other 1st part franchises or studios do they have? Or maybe I'm missing some. MightyMuna

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

I know this is a troll thread but you do make a point. The only quality studio they have is Naughty Dog. Santa Monica hasn't made anything really other than God of War and Sucker Punch is way way overrated. And Polyphony is a second class developer now. Turn 10, Codemasters, Playground, and Slightly Mad are all better. It is ridiculous how far they fell.
I do think Guerrilla is getting better and better though. I also think Ready at Dawn makes good stuff. Not sure if Sony owns them or not. Sony will probably get a few new studios down the road. They will be fine. But right now I would argue they have the worst first party at the moment.

MightyMuna

Also , Insomniac and Quantic Dream are not 1st party, they're 2nd party kinda like Remedy to MS. Also, Ready at Dawn is 2nd party. 

MightyMuna

No such thing as second party. They're independant studios who have a parnership with Sony.

But they can still work on other platforms, like Insomniac are doing with Sunset overdrive, only found on Xbox One :cool:

What an awful thread, but hey, i can be an idiotic fanboy too. Rare - Been dead for years LOL Turn 10 - Horizon, on the decline LOL Lionhead - Fable 3, 75 on meta LOL 343 - LOL worst Halo, in decline Epic Games - GeoW Judgment, AE (are Epic even first party?) Who else is there it's pretty barren on MS' side? Ruffian? Crackdown 2 was poor. Remedy? AAE at best, last good title was 2003.hoosier7

":cry: :cry:

Maybe if I talk about MS people will forget who crappy Sony have become

:cry: :cry:"

:lol:

Its been HUGELY downgraded during the PS3 generation and will probably only get worse with Sonys obsession on indie games. Cows act like its untouchable when that couldn't be further from the truth.

 

SCE Japan Studio - Working on Knack LOL
Team Ico - ..... :lol:
Polyphony Digital - ...... Are now second to Turn 10. Takes them 6 years just to make a new game, despite being filled with old assets. Last game a huge flop.
Naughy Gods - Sonys best dev studio
SCE Santa Monica - Their second best, but their only quality games have been God of War games so far. Yawn.
SCE San Diego - MLBLOL
SCE Bend - Portable garbage
Sucker Punch - AA studio at best
SCE London - Casual trash like Buzz
Evolution - AA studio at best
Guerilla - AA studio at best
Media Molecule - working on PS Move trash

 

Incognito Entertainment - Closed down.
Lightbox Interactive - Cut ties with Sony. No sequel to Warhawk or Starhawk for you.
SCE Liverpool - Closed down. No Wipeout for you.
Zipper Interactive - Closed down. No SOCOM for you.
Superbot - Cut ties with Sony. No Playstations Allstars sequel for you.
Eat Sleep Play - Cut ties with Sony. No Twisted Metal for you.
That GameCompany - Multiplat now
Insomniac - Multiplat now

 

So from all that, there are 2 AAA calbire studios?

I'm just wondering where these 20 AAA blockbuster games are being developed that are supposedly coming from Sony in the first year? (or so cows keep telling me)

So far theres Killzone, Knack, Drive Club, The Order and Infamous. Thats 5.

RR360DD

As much as Killzone is a horrible series, I have no doubt it's going to crush Halo next gen. :lol:

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

I know this is a troll thread but you do make a point. The only quality studio they have is Naughty Dog. Santa Monica hasn't made anything really other than God of War and Sucker Punch is way way overrated. And Polyphony is a second class developer now. Turn 10, Codemasters, Playground, and Slightly Mad are all better. It is ridiculous how far they fell.
I do think Guerrilla is getting better and better though. I also think Ready at Dawn makes good stuff. Not sure if Sony owns them or not. Sony will probably get a few new studios down the road. They will be fine. But right now I would argue they have the worst first party at the moment.

MightyMuna

[QUOTE="hoosier7"]What an awful thread, but hey, i can be an idiotic fanboy too. Rare - Been dead for years LOL Turn 10 - Horizon, on the decline LOL Lionhead - Fable 3, 75 on meta LOL 343 - LOL worst Halo, in decline Epic Games - GeoW Judgment, AE (are Epic even first party?) Who else is there it's pretty barren on MS' side? Ruffian? Crackdown 2 was poor. Remedy? AAE at best, last good title was 2003.RR360DD

":cry: :cry:

Maybe if I talk about MS people will forget who crappy Sony have become

:cry: :cry:"

:lol:

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Its been HUGELY downgraded during the PS3 generation and will probably only get worse with Sonys obsession on indie games. Cows act like its untouchable when that couldn't be further from the truth.

 

SCE Japan Studio - Working on Knack LOL
Team Ico - ..... :lol:
Polyphony Digital - ...... Are now second to Turn 10. Takes them 6 years just to make a new game, despite being filled with old assets. Last game a huge flop.
Naughy Gods - Sonys best dev studio
SCE Santa Monica - Their second best, but their only quality games have been God of War games so far. Yawn.
SCE San Diego - MLBLOL
SCE Bend - Portable garbage
Sucker Punch - AA studio at best
SCE London - Casual trash like Buzz
Evolution - AA studio at best
Guerilla - AA studio at best
Media Molecule - working on PS Move trash

 

Incognito Entertainment - Closed down.
Lightbox Interactive - Cut ties with Sony. No sequel to Warhawk or Starhawk for you.
SCE Liverpool - Closed down. No Wipeout for you.
Zipper Interactive - Closed down. No SOCOM for you.
Superbot - Cut ties with Sony. No Playstations Allstars sequel for you.
Eat Sleep Play - Cut ties with Sony. No Twisted Metal for you.
That GameCompany - Multiplat now
Insomniac - Multiplat now

 

So from all that, there are 2 AAA calbire studios?

I'm just wondering where these 20 AAA blockbuster games are being developed that are supposedly coming from Sony in the first year? (or so cows keep telling me)

So far theres Killzone, Knack, Drive Club, The Order and Infamous. Thats 5.

PS4TrumpsXbox1

GT6: Already outdated. Still using PS2 cars :lol:

CoDzone SF: A pretty but shallow shooter that'll get buried under Ghosts and BF4

Infamous: Sequel to 7.5 Infamous 2.

The Order: From a PSP developer LOL I dunno, could be good. Also, not from a 1st party studio.

Beyond: Getting crappy previews. Gonna flop. Also, not from a 1st party studio.

You fail :cool:

As much as Killzone is a horrible series, I have no doubt it's going to crush Halo next gen. :lol:

CallOfDutyRulez

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

As much as Killzone is a horrible series, I have no doubt it's going to crush Halo next gen. :lol:

RR360DD

Killzone is outselling the xbox ONE. :lol:

[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

As much as Killzone is a horrible series, I have no doubt it's going to crush Halo next gen. :lol:

CallOfDutyRulez

Killzone is outselling the xbox ONE. :lol:

It hasn't even sold one copy yet :lol:

owned :cool:

[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

As much as Killzone is a horrible series, I have no doubt it's going to crush Halo next gen. :lol:

CallOfDutyRulez

Killzone is outselling the xbox ONE. :lol:

[QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Its been HUGELY downgraded during the PS3 generation and will probably only get worse with Sonys obsession on indie games. Cows act like its untouchable when that couldn't be further from the truth.

 

SCE Japan Studio - Working on Knack LOL
Team Ico - ..... :lol:
Polyphony Digital - ...... Are now second to Turn 10. Takes them 6 years just to make a new game, despite being filled with old assets. Last game a huge flop.
Naughy Gods - Sonys best dev studio
SCE Santa Monica - Their second best, but their only quality games have been God of War games so far. Yawn.
SCE San Diego - MLBLOL
SCE Bend - Portable garbage
Sucker Punch - AA studio at best
SCE London - Casual trash like Buzz
Evolution - AA studio at best
Guerilla - AA studio at best
Media Molecule - working on PS Move trash

 

Incognito Entertainment - Closed down.
Lightbox Interactive - Cut ties with Sony. No sequel to Warhawk or Starhawk for you.
SCE Liverpool - Closed down. No Wipeout for you.
Zipper Interactive - Closed down. No SOCOM for you.
Superbot - Cut ties with Sony. No Playstations Allstars sequel for you.
Eat Sleep Play - Cut ties with Sony. No Twisted Metal for you.
That GameCompany - Multiplat now
Insomniac - Multiplat now

 

So from all that, there are 2 AAA calbire studios?

I'm just wondering where these 20 AAA blockbuster games are being developed that are supposedly coming from Sony in the first year? (or so cows keep telling me)

So far theres Killzone, Knack, Drive Club, The Order and Infamous. Thats 5.

RR360DD

GT6: Already outdated. Still using PS2 cars :lol:

CoDzone SF: A pretty but shallow shooter that'll get buried under Ghosts and BF4

Infamous: Sequel to 7.5 Infamous 2.

The Order: From a PSP developer LOL I dunno, could be good. Also, not from a 1st party studio.

Beyond: Getting crappy previews. Gonna flop. Also, not from a 1st party studio.

You fail :cool:

if you think so buddy

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"] Trolling much???? First party sony games coming out: GT 6 Killzone Shadow Fall Infamous Second Son The Order Naughty Dog will come out with something (they did just release TLOU which is doing good) Beyond Two Souls (Quantic Dream isn't exactly 1st party but stated they were open to being bought by Sony and they publish their games) All of these games will sell good and im sure more 1st party games will come. So you fail.....PS4TrumpsXbox1

GT6: Already outdated. Still using PS2 cars :lol:

CoDzone SF: A pretty but shallow shooter that'll get buried under Ghosts and BF4

Infamous: Sequel to 7.5 Infamous 2.

The Order: From a PSP developer LOL I dunno, could be good. Also, not from a 1st party studio.

Beyond: Getting crappy previews. Gonna flop. Also, not from a 1st party studio.

You fail :cool:

I don't know why people are bitching about how killzone sells.
1: It sells around 3 million (that's not bad)
2: If it did bad and didn't make any money, why would sony keep making them? (and not just put gg on another ip) (they already did that with the second team)
3: Killzone for the vita is coming out, and people are super hyped for it!

killzone is doing just fine. 

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"] Trolling much???? First party sony games coming out: GT 6 Killzone Shadow Fall Infamous Second Son The Order Naughty Dog will come out with something (they did just release TLOU which is doing good) Beyond Two Souls (Quantic Dream isn't exactly 1st party but stated they were open to being bought by Sony and they publish their games) All of these games will sell good and im sure more 1st party games will come. So you fail.....PS4TrumpsXbox1

GT6: Already outdated. Still using PS2 cars :lol:

CoDzone SF: A pretty but shallow shooter that'll get buried under Ghosts and BF4

Infamous: Sequel to 7.5 Infamous 2.

The Order: From a PSP developer LOL I dunno, could be good. Also, not from a 1st party studio.

Beyond: Getting crappy previews. Gonna flop. Also, not from a 1st party studio.

You fail :cool:

The order is being developed by Ready at dawn. And GT5 was a huge flop. 8.0 :lol:

"runner up to a lot of those awards (the awards titanfall won)"

:lol: good for infamous

[QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

GT6: Already outdated. Still using PS2 cars :lol:

CoDzone SF: A pretty but shallow shooter that'll get buried under Ghosts and BF4

Infamous: Sequel to 7.5 Infamous 2.

The Order: From a PSP developer LOL I dunno, could be good. Also, not from a 1st party studio.

Beyond: Getting crappy previews. Gonna flop. Also, not from a 1st party studio.

You fail :cool:

ramonnl

I don't know why people are bitching about how killzone sells.
1: It sells around 3 million (that's not bad)
2: If it did bad and didn't make any money, why would sony keep making them? (and not just put gg on another ip) (they already did that with the second team)
3: Killzone for the vita is coming out, and people are super hyped for it!

killzone is doing just fine. 

this guy is emotionally damaged from microsoft's pathetic E3 display.  let his delusions consume him.

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]:lol: :lol: Good oneMonsieurX

Killzone is outselling the xbox ONE. :lol:

http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=zg_bs_nav_0#3

Ouch. :lol:

Well atleast they have first party studios unlike microsoft which has barely any at all.

Raziel831991

[QUOTE="Raziel831991"]

Well atleast they have first party studios unlike microsoft which has barely any at all.

Shewgenja

[QUOTE="ramonnl"]

[QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"] Your funny The order is being made by Santa Monica and Santa monica is first party Quantic dream isnt first party but could be in the future Killzone will sell just fine None of the GT games are flops, GT3 has sold like 15 million copies. Yea some of the cars will be recycled but they are also adding a lot of new cars and tracks in GT 6 so no you fail...... Oh and do I really need to say anything about Naughty Dog One more thing Infamous Second son was nominated for a lot of e3 awards and was runner up to a lot of those awards (the awards titanfall won).PS4TrumpsXbox1

I don't know why people are bitching about how killzone sells.
1: It sells around 3 million (that's not bad)
2: If it did bad and didn't make any money, why would sony keep making them? (and not just put gg on another ip) (they already did that with the second team)
3: Killzone for the vita is coming out, and people are super hyped for it!

killzone is doing just fine. 

Keep dreaming, battlefieldfan6. People are still deciding which console they'll get.