Rumor - PS5 has overheating issues

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#51  Edited By ronvalencia
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@Nonstop-Madness said:

@tormentos: Its just crazy how rumours always appear and are talked up by Microsoft / Xbox centric journalists that are only backed up by some random tweet that mentions some "inside source" (which is either another tweet or random post on a forum or pastebin lol) every time there's a breadcrumb of new information about the PS5.

They'll even go as far to say that Mark Cenrybis flat out lying about his work. Cerny says PS5 is based on RDNA2 ... rumor afterwards - "PS5 is not actually full RDNA2 because he didnt specifically confirm this feature that's only RDNA2. It must be RDNA1.5.".

Bruh. It's 100% FUD.

I don't see panicking over something as a negative since the problem has been identified during R&D phase.

The real problem is when a product ships with an overheating problem i.e. somebody is sleeping at the wheel. Polishing the product may take some time.

At least Sony's QA is not "sleeping at the wheel" or doing a "Boeing 737 Max" style stupidity i.e. engineering teams identify the problem while upper management denies the problem.

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#52 hardwenzen
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Imagine they downclock it to like 8.3flops just so the system doesn't overheat. The amount of crying will be very interesting.

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#53 ronvalencia
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@hardwenzen said:

Imagine they downclock it to like 8.3flops just so the system doesn't overheat. The amount of crying will be very interesting.

That's unlikely.

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#54 hardwenzen
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@ronvalencia said:
@hardwenzen said:

Imagine they downclock it to like 8.3flops just so the system doesn't overheat. The amount of crying will be very interesting.

That's unlikely.

They're already losing in power, and if this will guarantee no overheating, i don't see why not. They can always damage control it with WE HAVE THE FASTEST SSD BTW and WE HAVE THE BEST EXCLUSIVES.

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#55 ronvalencia
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@hardwenzen said:
@ronvalencia said:

That's unlikely.

They're already losing in power, and if this will guarantee no overheating, i don't see why not. They can always damage control it with WE HAVE THE FASTEST SSD BTW and WE HAVE THE BEST EXCLUSIVES.

There are PC RX 5700 XT SKUs with near 2Ghz clock speed average as "out-of-the-box" factory configurations already.

Sony only has to follow MSI and Sapphire PC AIB examples.

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#56 Sushiglutton
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First the TLOU2 delay and now this?!? Wtf Sony :(. Probably best to have a wait and see approach and not be there day 1 if there's any truth to this rumor.

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#57  Edited By StrongDeadlift
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You know the funny part about all this? Anybody else remember how just a month or two ago, the narrative behind the scenes was how unprepared MS was, how basically no developers have up-to-date Xbox dev kits (if any at all) while devs have had near final PS5 kits for quite a while, and Microsoft was supposedly running behind schedule compared to Sony.

Here we are only a month later, XBOX already has consumer-grade prototypes out in the wild (with legitimate serial numbers), they have influencers participating in full teardowns holding the guts in their hands, we've seen the entire breakdown of every peice of hardware in the damn machine down to the model #'s of its components.

And now Sony is nowhere to be found. Life sure comes at you fast huh Cows?

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#58 com2006
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A bit worrying hearing things like this, hope it isn’t rushed because MS are putting the pressure on.

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#59 Martin_G_N
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Can't be worse than the PS3 with it's 390 watts. PS5's 300watts should be solvable.

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#60  Edited By ronvalencia
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@Martin_G_N said:

Can't be worse than the PS3 with it's 390 watts. PS5's 300watts should be solvable.

The power consumption of the initial PlayStation 3 units, based on 90 nm Cell CPU, ranges from 170–200 W during normal use, despite having a 380 W power supply.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3_technical_specifications

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X1X has power consumption around 170W with a peak load of 181W.

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3117-xbox-one-x-fps-benchmarks-destiny2-cod-ww2-assassins-creed

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#61 SecretPolice
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:P

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#62 UItravioIence
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Pre order canceled

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#63 deactivated-5f3ec00254b0d
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The only reason why I give some credibility to this is because Sony's silence regarding this particular subject. Even during the presentation they were extremely vague about cooling.

But imo it's just an April's fool rumours. If the leaker wished to be taken seriously he would have waited a few days.

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@Pedro:

Yes because windows central is the most reliable source when it comes to PS information.🤷

Some sites have an agenda there is no conspiracy.

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#65  Edited By BoxRekt
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It's funny how the thread that debunked this so-called report was locked, that's SW for ya.

🤦‍♂️ This reads like something that came straight from SW's most toxic portion of the comment section. A lot of wishfully thinking, clear favortism for MS and XSX, negative projection aimed at Sony, spite and fearmongering.

This is supposed to be some kind of "report"?

Jason Schreier✔@jasonschreierReplying to @exstuhsey and 4 others

What a coincidence that the person making these claims has a long history of tweeting about how PlayStation is doomed

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#66 Greygoose12
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Its just makes you wonder why there are no pics of the system yet. They released the specs so why would a system pic hurt them . Also there is no game clips. ???

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#67 Techhog89
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Tweaktown? Yeah, sure. Find a more reliable source please. They couldn't even get the shape of the dev kit right.

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@ronvalencia said:
@tormentos said:
@ronvalencia said:

Historically, Sony hasn't shipped a modern gaming PC. MS's vapor cooling solution for X1X was ripped from NVIDIA's technology from the Surface desktop PC line.

Do you know what cooling solution sony will have?

You do know that probably at 2.3ghz that GPU is producing more heat so sony would need an incredible good cooling solution.

From https://www.tweaktown.com/news/70636/playstation-5-cooling-system-is-lavish-makes-the-ps5-more-expensive/index.html

Date: Feb 15, 2020

Bloomberg reporting Sony opted to "lavish more" on the cooling system to make sure "heat dissipation from the powerful chips housed inside the console isn't an issue".

Bloomberg wrote: "Most of the components for the console have been locked down, the people said, including the cooling system, which is unusually expensive at a few dollars per unit", adding that "typically, companies would spend less than a dollar" on the cooling system -- but Sony opted to "lavish more" on the PlayStation 5 cooling system.

GitHub's PS5 leak was nearly accurate.

We know PS5's "lavish more" cooling solution is above PS4 and PS4 Pro at Feb 15, 2020 time period.

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From https://www.tweaktown.com/news/71606/report-playstation-5-overheating-issues-causing-sony-to-panic/index.html

Date: Apr 2, 2020

Sources say Sony's PlayStation 5 runs so hot it's forcing new hardware cooling and case redesigns

New reports suggest Sony is panicking over significant PS5 overheating issues. Supposed unnamed dev sources tell reporters like Windows Central's Dan Rubino and Jez Corden that the console is simply belting out too much heat for the cooling array to handle.

Everything from the 7nm AMD SoC to the ultra-fast 5.5GB/sec PCIe 4.0 SSD are generating pretty substantial thermals, and Sony's solution may not be on par with the Xbox Series X's huge 130mm fan and vapor chamber cooler. The PS5's variable GPU scaling adds another potential layer of worry to the heat management issues, especially since the console will scale its GPU power on a game-by-game basis.

The heat problems may force Sony to redesign system's cooling and chassis design. Reports say current PS5 design is failing due to overheating and compare it to the Xbox 360's dreaded RRoD thermal issues. Now we understand why the PS5 devkit has massive ventilation.

Actually, panicking over something is good since the problem has been identified during R&D phase and induces higher motivation to fix it.

yeah instead of ignoring it like Microsoft did and just fix it after they releasing the 360.

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@lamprey263: 🤣👍👍👍

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#70  Edited By deactivated-5f3ec00254b0d
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Lems are just jealous that the PS5 is too powerful.

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#71 deactivated-603db33572396
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they might have tried to run warhawk on it and the terrible ps5 cpu couldnt handle it

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@CrumUnderMe said:

they might have tried to run warhawk on it and the terrible ps5 cpu couldnt handle it

So when did you get your hands on a PS5?

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#73 VFighter
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@CrumUnderMe: Have you ever made a post that didnt mention Warhawk?

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#74 mowgly1
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Looks like Bone fans are on the roll. Again!!!

Same idiot, same FUD :

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#75 mowgly1
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Regarding Jeff Rickel's tweets which Jason linked in his tweet, but Jeff had deleted them, here they are :

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#76 Pedro
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Looks like Sony fannies called in for reinforcement. LOL

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#77 mowgly1
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@Pedro said:

Looks like Sony fannies called in for reinforcement. LOL

Said by member who support spreading FUD about PS5

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#78 mowgly1
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@ronvalencia said:

GitHub's PS5 leak was nearly accurate.

Just about CUs and memory bandwidth ( maybe????? because there were 2 versions 448 and 480 GB/s ) EVERYTHING ELSE - Clock, NO hardware RT, Architecture

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#79 Pedro
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@mowgly1 said:
@Pedro said:

Looks like Sony fannies called in for reinforcement. LOL

Said by member who support spreading FUD about PS5

4th Comment "This rumor feels a bit moldy."

Congratulations, you have been triggered. :)

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#80 mowgly1
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@Pedro said:
@mowgly1 said:
@Pedro said:

Looks like Sony fannies called in for reinforcement. LOL

Said by member who support spreading FUD about PS5

4th Comment "This rumor feels a bit moldy."

Congratulations, you have been triggered. :)

Me, triggered? Yet you have way more posts here in this thread than me.

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#81 Pedro
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@mowgly1 said:

Me, triggered? Yet you have way more posts here in this thread than me.

I am not the one posting twitter feeds and other stuff to damage control a thread like this. :)

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#82 deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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I wonder if Sony made the mistake of using a cooling fan. Maybe they should try a fan that refreshes the hot air with cool air, but doesn't actually cool any of the components. That strategy seems to be working for the new Xbox.

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#83 mowgly1
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@Pedro said:
@mowgly1 said:

Me, triggered? Yet you have way more posts here in this thread than me.

I am not the one posting twitter feeds and other stuff to damage control a thread like this. :)

LOL! Damage control. But very Xbone fans spreading FUD about PS5? So, you're supporting spreading FUD provided by dumb Xbone fans. I'm not surprised

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#84  Edited By deactivated-603db33572396
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@vfighter said:

@CrumUnderMe: Have you ever made a post that didnt mention Warhawk?

have you ever STOPPED SPAMMING

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@CrumUnderMe said:
@vfighter said:

@CrumUnderMe: Have you ever made a post that didnt mention Warhawk?

have you ever STOPPED SPAMMING

You’re the one who keeps spamming.

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#86 hardwenzen
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If they have issues heat, and knowing we live in real life Fallout, would it be possible for them to delay the system and possibly up the specs to xsx standards? Or is it too late for that?

I wouldn't mind if they were to delay it to Spring 2021, up the specs to 12-13tflops and build a proper cooling system.

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#87 Pedro
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@mowgly1: Lol. Nope! I am here just making fun of you and your fellow goons. It's what I do.😁

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'Widnows Central' is a very unbiased source!

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#89 Zaryia
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so it's going to run hot, look bad, and have low fps?

YIKES!!!!!

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#90 tdkmillsy
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Not sure I believe this one, but theirs no smoke without fire :)

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#91 PC_Rocks
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@lamprey263 said:

Maybe it was indeed only supposed to be a 9.2TF console and they overclocked to close the power gap with teh SeX on paper, but invited whole new host of issues. Would also make sense why we haven't seen a working one yet, plan changing last second likely means they're scrambling to find new cooling and casing solutions. This also came up in prior rumors weeks back on them struggling to keep production costs under $450.

Anyhow, I got a great idea, just add a loud fan bigger and faster than the one on the PS4, call it the 12th man, just imagine what all than winning would feel like:

That's not how any system is designed. You don't change your specs in response to your competition this late.

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@zaryia said:

so it's going to run hot, look bad, and have low fps?

YIKES!!!!!

YIKES!!!!! Go off of rumors and not facts.

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#93 xhawk27
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Sony might lose this next gen before it even starts! LOL

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@tdkmillsy:

In other words you believe it but don't have the guts to admit it.🤣

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#96 tormentos
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@xhawk27:

Oh is time to save this thread for future fun making.🤣

Sony is teh dooommmmmmmmm.

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#97 tormentos
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@goldenelementxl:

Only the Xbox is capable of such technology,according to some one with a PHD in computer engineering.

I think is because the Xbox has a vapor chamber that take heat particles and transform then into icecle molecules thus cooling the system.

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@sleepnsurf: How in the actual F is Sony coasting with the console lead? Nioh 2, Dreams, Ghosts of Tsushima, Persona 5, TLOU2, etc. What the hell is MS delivering? I think Xbox fanboys just like the Xbox logo, there's no games that even reflect what Xbox is outside of Halo Gears and Forza. Why be a fanboy to a company that phoned it in?

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#99 Sagemode87
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@StrongDeadlift: oh look who's come out of his hole. Haven't seen you around here since 2010. Series X has you Lems beating your chest lol. Too bad things will go the same as always. PS is the larger brand and will have more mindshare. Don't know why you guys set yourselves up for disappointment every gen.

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#100 mowgly1
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@Pedro said:

@mowgly1: Lol. Nope! I am here just making fun of you and your fellow goons. It's what I do.😁

Why you don't make fun of Windows Central and their FUD? But of course, you're supporting their FUD spread.