RPG lovers: Atlus or Square Enix, which one is better these days?

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#101 kidcool189
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Atlus because of Snowboard kids...

yea I just said that.

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haha they did snowbaord kids? i used to love that game!
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#102 Scythes777
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[QUOTE="Scythes777"]

Atlus because of Snowboard kids...

yea I just said that.

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haha they did snowbaord kids? i used to love that game!

Haha yea I dont know if they made it or just published it but it was one of the 2.
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#103 SpinoRaptor24
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Definitely Atlus. They've made better games this gen (to me anyways)

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#104 Cyberfairy
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Atlus overall publish more crap then SE, therefor SE gets my vote. Even though most of SE's games are pretty...un-imaginative by now, they're still of high-quality.

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#105 Waffle_Fish
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As much as I love TWEWY, Square hasnt done anything really substantial that isnt porting and remaking old final fantasies. Atlus>Square (These days)
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#107 110million
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Judging from the vote result, I'm happy that most people have realized that Square Enix has gone downhill whereas Atlus is becoming better and better. Seriously, I thought most rpg fans nowadays still 'know only Final Fantasy'.

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I was pretty sure this thread was old, but anyways, after FFXIII and FFXIV, I'm sure a lot more people would have voted Atlus if a new poll went up.
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#108 Dahaka-UK
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Square-Enix is just a pathetic shadow of it's former self Squaresoft.

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#109 campzor
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level 5 is better then both so....
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#110 Dibdibdobdobo
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I've enjoyed Atlus's work on the DS more so than anyone elses offerings.
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#111 DeckardLee2010
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[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="TheCoreGamer_"]bioware sucks.Birdy09

is it the lack of effeminate male lead characters or hidden princesses with amnisa? just curious.

Which Final Fantasy main characters are effeminate?

All of them.

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#112 Kandlegoat
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level 5 is better then both so....campzor

This one.

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#113 NaveedLife
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IDK, hasnt square been putting out some good kingdom hearts games, DS games (4 heroes of light), and is coming with FF Vs XIII? I still have hope :P. I havent played much of Atlus's games. That said, as far as publishing goes, they published Demons Souls which is one of the most overrated games (at least on GS) in recent history.

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#114 The__Havoc
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[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="TheCoreGamer_"]bioware sucks.TheCoreGamer_

is it the lack of effeminate male lead characters or hidden princesses with amnisa? just curious.

no its the out-of-this-world design.

I do indeed hate how those open ended world designs are out of date compared to linear adventure 13 LOL

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#115 samanthademeste
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Square Enix made FF6, Chrono Trigger and Secret of Mana. Nuff said.

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#116 campzor
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Square Enix made FF6, Chrono Trigger and Secret of Mana. Nuff said.

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THESE days we are talking about... not in the dinosaur era :P
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#117 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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Why would RPG fans care? :P (please j/k don't take that seriously)
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#118 deactivated-5c8e4e07d5510
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Old thread, but Atlus.
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#119 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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Old thread, but Atlus.Guppy507
I had missed that it had been necro'd
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#120 vashkey
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You know, I haven't played an Atlus game other than a very brief session of Persona 3 but based on my awful experience with FInal Fantasy XIII, The Last Remnant and Infinite Undiscovery I'm inclined to say Atlus....
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#121 abuabed
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Atlus without a second thought. SE can go to hell for all I care.
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#122 abuabed
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Old thread, but Atlus.Guppy507
Oh damn another one of those threads.
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#123 NIN1993
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well Demon Souls was made by Atlus so... Atlus obviously
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#124 edo-tensei
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IDK, hasnt square been putting out some good kingdom hearts games, DS games (4 heroes of light), and is coming with FF Vs XIII? I still have hope :P. I havent played much of Atlus's games. That said, as far as publishing goes, they published Demons Souls which is one of the most overrated games (at least on GS) in recent history.

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Demon's souls was only published by atlus, not developed. Also, Atlus makes very good jrpgs games, you should try some before entering this thead, that way you'll realize how low square has fallen.
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#125 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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well Demon Souls was made by Atlus so... Atlus obviously NIN1993
That was From Software.
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#126 Bigboi500
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LOL who bumped this very old thread?

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#127 Blacklight2
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CD Projekt is the best RPG developer. Atlus is better than Square at the moment though.
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#128 Arach666
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[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="TheCoreGamer_"]bioware sucks.Birdy09

is it the lack of effeminate male lead characters or hidden princesses with amnisa? just curious.

Which Final Fantasy main characters are effeminate?

Vaan.

To me it´s Atlus but just because of P3 and P4.

Edit: Old thread is old.

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#129 Master_ShakeXXX
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Atlus. I don't see how anyone could vote Square Enix :?

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#130 Dead-Memories
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in terms of JRPG's Atlus has always continuously destroyed square enix, it's not even debtable

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#131 Master_ShakeXXX
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[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

is it the lack of effeminate male lead characters or hidden princesses with amnisa? just curious.

Arach666

Which Final Fantasy main characters are effeminate?

Vaan.

To me it´s Atlus but just because of P3 and P4.

Edit: Old thread is old.

Damit! I just realised you said that after I posted. Yet again I get tricked.

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#132 Luxen90
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Are the only rpg people have played from Atlus Persona 3 and 4? Jeez....no wonder they've been only making sequels and porting those games.
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#133 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="Birdy09"] Which Final Fantasy main characters are effeminate?Master_ShakeXXX

Vaan.

To me it´s Atlus but just because of P3 and P4.

Edit: Old thread is old.

Damit! I just realised you said that after I posted. Yet again I get tricked.

I just noticed that after posting.
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#134 edo-tensei
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Are the only rpg people have played from Atlus Persona 3 and 4? Jeez....no wonder they've been only making sequels and porting those games.Luxen90
Don't know exactly what you meant there, but atlus has mre than just persona.
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#135 Master_ShakeXXX
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"] Vaan.

To me it´s Atlus but just because of P3 and P4.

Edit: Old thread is old.

Arach666

Damit! I just realised you said that after I posted. Yet again I get tricked.

I just noticed that after posting.

Well it's still relevant. Even back in 2009 Atlus was destroying Square.

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#136 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Damit! I just realised you said that after I posted. Yet again I get tricked.

Master_ShakeXXX

I just noticed that after posting.

Well it's still relevant. Even back in 2009 Atlus was destroying Square.

Especially because that was even before SE released one of the most disapointing sp FF games ever and an atrocious MMO.
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#137 Luxen90
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[QUOTE="Luxen90"]Are the only rpg people have played from Atlus Persona 3 and 4? Jeez....no wonder they've been only making sequels and porting those games.edo-tensei
Don't know exactly what you meant there, but atlus has mre than just persona.

Did you not read what I said? I'm basically asking if Persona 3 and 4 are the only games people have played from them, because that's mostly all I've seen. I'm sure that's probably most of everyone's reason though. That's I see this thread. Persona Persona Persona.
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#138 Master_ShakeXXX
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"] I just noticed that after posting.Arach666

Well it's still relevant. Even back in 2009 Atlus was destroying Square.

Especially because that was even before SE released one of the most disapointing sp FF games ever and an atrocious MMO.

:lol:

Sad but true. Square should start taking some pages out of Atlus' book.

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#139 Arach666
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[QUOTE="edo-tensei"][QUOTE="Luxen90"]Are the only rpg people have played from Atlus Persona 3 and 4? Jeez....no wonder they've been only making sequels and porting those games.Luxen90
Don't know exactly what you meant there, but atlus has mre than just persona.

Did you not read what I said? I'm basically asking if Persona 3 and 4 are the only games people have played from them, because that's mostly all I've seen. I'm sure that's probably most of everyone's reason though. That's I see this thread. Persona Persona Persona.

Probably because people have enjoyed the Persona games the most? I know,I know,must be such an unusual thing,right?
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#140 Luxen90
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Probably because people have enjoyed the Persona games the most? I know,I know,must be such an unusual thing,right?Arach666


???Where do you come off being a smartass for? I've just asked if that's all people have played from Atlus. Can I not ask a simple question without someone being a smartass?

I'm just wondering if that's all people have played from them because they have other great rpgs that just don't get mentioned as much as Persona.


I know this is gamespot and all and people don't respect each other opinions, but not everyone is the same, you should realize that.

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#141 hakanakumono
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ATLUS is overrated, but despite my dislike for the two games ... it does seem like P3 and P4 are all around very high quality games that Square doesn't really have anything to match this gen. Square's biggest recent title, despite being victim to a significant amount of hyperbole, just doesn't cut it. Right now I'm hoping T3B will be a solid offering from S-E and many are counting on Versus. Who knows what they'll do.

ATLUS and S-E are both struggling through the transition to HD ... In fact ATLUS isn't even ATLUS anymore. It was bought by another company or something. The way that the companies have to navigate this gen is going to be different. ATLUS is a smaller company and is able to release games that make graphical shortcuts or don't utilize much resources, without fan outcry. In fact, they continued to release games on the PS2 for a time. S-E, on the other hand, is expected to make much more expensive products and make graphical leaps. You'd better believe that one of the major selling points of FF is it's graphics; This is what is expected of S-E. S-E thought they could combat higher costs by creating a single engine for any of their future projects on the PS3. Which backfired. It pushed the actual production of FFXIII way back, so far that they had to find a way to cut the game down to certain elements just to get it released. The good news is Square knows they messed up and they know you are upset about FFXIII. Square is a company made of real people and if anything the interviews suggest that Square is deeply troubled by the hate it gets. I don't think Square will ever get the respect back it once had (even if it deserves it), but I do think it's possible for them to turn around and release all around great games.

Edit: Oh ****. Old thread.

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#142 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Arach666"] Probably because people have enjoyed the Persona games the most? I know,I know,must be such an unusual thing,right?Luxen90



???Where do you come off being a smartass for? I've just asked if that's all people have played from Atlus. Can I not ask a simple question without someone being a smartass?

I was just asking a simple question,just like you,because your "indignation" makes it sound like you enjoy other atlus games and apparently you feel somewhat "ofended" by the fact that people seem to enjoy the Persona games the most.

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#143 Luxen90
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I was just asking a simple question,just like you,because your "indignation" makes it sound like you enjoy other atlus games and apparently you feel somewhat "ofended" by the fact that people seem to enjoy the Persona games the most.

Arach666

Nevermind what I said, because I just noticed the thread says THESE days, which would mean recently while the other Atlus games came out around 5-6 years ago. I'm not offended at all that people like Persona 3+4 they are great games, but I'm wondering if that's only what the people have people, because you know typically when you buy a game from a developer and you love it, you tend to venture out and try their other games.

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#144 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Arach666"] I was just asking a simple question,just like you,because your "indignation" makes it sound like you enjoy other atlus games and apparently you feel somewhat "ofended" by the fact that people seem to enjoy the Persona games the most.

Luxen90

Nevermind what I said, because I just noticed the thread says THESE days, which would mean recently while the other Atlus games came out around 5-6 years ago. I'm not offended at all that people like Persona 3+4 they are great games, but I'm wondering if that's only what the people have people, because you know typically when you buy a game from a developer and you love it, you tend to venture out and try their other games.

That´s what I did,I got P4 just out of curiosity and because it was cheap and I enjoyed iot,so I went and bought P3,wich is good as well. After that I ended up getting SMT: DS and I haven´t enjoyed it very much.

If it wasn´t for the persona games i wouldn´t even know about atlus to be honest,I don´t play many jrpg´s these days.

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#145 Luxen90
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If it wasn´t for the persona games i wouldn´t even know about atlus to be honest,I don´t play many jrpg´s these days.

Arach666



Persona 3 is honestly are what got me into Atlus, then I went onto buy Nocturne and Digital Devil Saga. I didn't enjoy SMT: DS that much either, but that's mainly because I don't find that many SRPGs entertaining enough for me to play.

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#146 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

If it wasn´t for the persona games i wouldn´t even know about atlus to be honest,I don´t play many jrpg´s these days.

Luxen90



Persona games honestly are what got me into Atlus, then I went onto buy Nocturne and Digital Devil Saga. I didn't enjoy SMT:DS that much either, but that's mainly because I don't find that many SRPGs entertaining enough for me to play.

I think in the end what got me interested in the Persona games was the setting and especially the characters(P4 mostly),it felt diferent than most jrpg´s,and in some ways it even reminded me of Shenmue(probably the best japanese made game I´ve ever played,and the sequel),since you have a house and you can hang around your town,etc. I like games that focus on mundane tasks to be honest,that sometimes are relaxed and not always giving you that urgency feeling to advance.
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#147 loadedboon
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CD Project are the best RPG developers out there.

and ofcourse an honourable mention to alot of the Indie RPG's