RPG lovers: Atlus or Square Enix, which one is better these days?

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#1 Bigboi500
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Played Persona 3 & 4 or Devil Survivor? Awesome games. Other than TWEWY what has SE done well lately? Atlus is now better than SE, yep I said it.

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#2 heysharpshooter
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Bioware

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#3 Yandere
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Atlus, they publish really good niche games, unlike Square.

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#4 shutdown_202
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Overall: Square

These days: Atlus

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#5 TheCoreGamer_
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SE is just a bigger version of atlus. bioware sucks.
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#6 heysharpshooter
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bioware sucks.TheCoreGamer_

is it the lack of effeminate male lead characters or hidden princesses with amnisa? just curious.

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#7 TheCoreGamer_
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[QUOTE="TheCoreGamer_"]bioware sucks.heysharpshooter

is it the lack of effeminate male lead characters or hidden princesses with amnisa? just curious.

no its the out-of-this-world design.
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#8 Yandere
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[QUOTE="TheCoreGamer_"]bioware sucks.heysharpshooter

is it the lack of effeminate male lead characters or hidden princesses with amnisa? just curious.

Do we really need a JRPG vs WRPG fight?

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#9 Birdy09
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[QUOTE="TheCoreGamer_"]bioware sucks.heysharpshooter

is it the lack of effeminate male lead characters or hidden princesses with amnisa? just curious.

Which Final Fantasy main characters are effeminate?
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#10 RadecSupreme
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SE has not brought up any quality games out so far but that may change.

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#11 Renjinrezo
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I like SMT games. I can't say the same about FF games though.

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#12 finalstar2007
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From your poll i picked Square Enix but i really like them all, Level 5, Square Enix, Atlus, NIS America and more

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#13 110million
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Atlus, I've enjoyed a lot more of their games lately. SE delivers amazing products, but they are typically few and far between, Atlus does publish a lot of crap games too, ones developed by smaller developers, but all of their own franchises are golden.
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#14 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="TheCoreGamer_"]bioware sucks.heysharpshooter

is it the lack of effeminate male lead characters or hidden princesses with amnisa? just curious.

This thread isn't a W vs. E RPG thread so both of you cut it out.

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#15 Yandere
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Atlus, I've enjoyed a lot more of their games lately. SE delivers amazing products, but they are typically few and far between, Atlus does publish a lot of crap games too, ones developed by smaller developers, but all of their own franchises are golden.110million

I find the ones developed by smaller developers their best games.

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#16 110million
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[QUOTE="110million"]Atlus, I've enjoyed a lot more of their games lately. SE delivers amazing products, but they are typically few and far between, Atlus does publish a lot of crap games too, ones developed by smaller developers, but all of their own franchises are golden.Yandere

I find the ones developed by smaller developers their best games.

Thats true in some cases, but they release so many games, quite of few of them just slip through into a stream of meh.
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#17 ShuichiChamp24
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Atlus gets my vote any day, I enjoy SMT way more then FF. They also release some small developer games that are sweet.

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#18 Bigboi500
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From your poll i picked Square Enix but i really like them all, Level 5, Square Enix, Atlus, NIS America and more

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Me too. There a lots of great RPG devs out there.

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Atlus. Persona 3 + 4 is win.
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#20 TalesofRaGnArOk
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I don't like the Persona Series; yep, I said it. Now that that's out of the way...

Square Enix - srsly.

NIS>Atlus

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#21 RedruM_I
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Atlus by infinite amount.
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#22 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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Square Enix.

other then persona i cant think of anything atlus has made.

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I don't like the Persona Series; yep, I said it. Now that that's out of the way...

Square Enix - srsly.

NIS>Atlus

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Yea sorry, we can't be friends.
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#24 110million
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I don't like the Persona Series; yep, I said it. Now that that's out of the way...

Square Enix - srsly.

NIS>Atlus

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NIS is pretty bad in some ways, some horrible localizations, and they only seem capable of producing the same genre, Disgaea series is awesome, but most of their other ones pale in comparison.
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#25 karriston
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The only Atlus game I've liked is SMT: Digital Devil Saga. The Persona games are too repetitive and soulless. Although SE haven't been doing well lately...
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#26 Yandere
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[QUOTE="TalesofRaGnArOk"]

I don't like the Persona Series; yep, I said it. Now that that's out of the way...

Square Enix - srsly.

NIS>Atlus

110million

NIS is pretty bad in some ways, some horrible localizations, and they only seem capable of producing the same genre, Disgaea series is awesome, but most of their other ones pale in comparison.

I'm completely fine of that, it's my favorite genre.

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#27 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="TalesofRaGnArOk"]

I don't like the Persona Series; yep, I said it. Now that that's out of the way...

Square Enix - srsly.

NIS>Atlus

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Yea sorry, we can't be friends.

Let's get him! :P j/k

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#28 jonnyt61
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I've not played a proper SE game since... FFXII? I don't know, they haven't really done any "major" titles since then. I've played The Last Remnant, and it was addictive, but wasn't a very good game, so ehh, not too impressed with it. That said, I fully expect both Final Fantasy XIII, and XIIIVS to be amazing games, so I'm not about to count SE out yet. Atlus are doing really well with Persona, and I'm currently waiting for my copy of Persona PSP to get here, so yeaa, I think they're doing pretty well with their own games. Outside of that, they're doing an excellent job of publishing Demon's Souls over in the States, adding a lot of additional bonuses for people who pick it up. I like that. Overall, I think SE will have the better production values, and an equally engaging array of games when they actually get them released, but for now, considering the large absence of SE with any "real" strong games, then Atlus is on top.
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#29 Silent-Hal
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I haven't really played many games from either, but I've been enjoying Persona 3 way more than I have any Final Fantasy game, so I'll go with Atlus. My favourite JRPG developer at the moment is probably tri-Ace (Star Ocean and Valkyrie Profile = awesome).
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#30 Bigboi500
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Square Enix.

other then persona i cant think of anything atlus has made.

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Nocturne (God like), Digital Devlil Saga 1 & 2 (good), Devil Survivor (awesome), Contact, Disgaea (outstanding), Devil Summoner, more I can't think of right now.

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#31 Lionheart08
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At this point, I'm liking Atlus a lot more. Games like Persona, Digital Devil Saga, Raidou Kuzunoha takes a lot more strategy to beat then games like Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy.

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#32 uglyhippos
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

Square Enix.

other then persona i cant think of anything atlus has made.

Bigboi500

Nocturne (God like), Digital Devlil Saga 1 & 2 (good), Devil Survivor (awesome), Contact, Disgaea (outstanding), Devil Summoner, more I can't think of right now.

GOLDEN SUN! That was an amazing game.
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#33 Silent-Hal
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Aside from the Persona games, are any of the Shin Megami Tensei titles very accessible? I've been finding getting into JRPGs a bit of a daunting task and I keep hearing great things about this series, but also that it is perhaps a little more hardcore than most.
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#34 metalkitten
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atlus for sure but se got many good too, i guess im just tired of the old ff formula the world ends with u was a great thing do and not stuck in old formulas
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#35 WasntAvailable
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Aside from the Persona games, are any of the Shin Megami Tensei titles very accessible? I've been finding getting into JRPGs a bit of a daunting task and I keep hearing great things about this series, but also that it is perhaps a little more hardcore than most. Silent-Hal

I don't know about Persona, but most RPGs have the same level of dificulty with a few exceptions. Most of the time they follow a very similar structure, so as soon as you understand how one works all you have to get your head aroundwith the next are differing gameplay mechanics. They basically only require very simple stategy, and as long as youput inthe right commands when a situation requires it, all RPGs should be playable.The only time RPGs every become difficult is when they start throwing random deaths (I hate that. Terrible game design, and far too common.)at you, or require alot of grinding. Just pick any good JRPG and you will get it eventually, even if you do end up choosing one more difficult than most.

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#36 Bigboi500
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Aside from the Persona games, are any of the Shin Megami Tensei titles very accessible? I've been finding getting into JRPGs a bit of a daunting task and I keep hearing great things about this series, but also that it is perhaps a little more hardcore than most. Silent-Hal
Yeah most SMT games are that but they're not as hard as some people say they are.

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#37 bokiloki
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Atlus released persona 3 and 4. and are bringing demons souls to the west + they pack all their games with artbooks, soundtracks, guides etc. I use to love square in the ps2 days but atlus just takes care of their fans.

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#38 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

Square Enix.

other then persona i cant think of anything atlus has made.

Nocturne (God like), Digital Devlil Saga 1 & 2 (good), Devil Survivor (awesome), Contact, Disgaea (outstanding), Devil Summoner, more I can't think of right now.

i searched those in google and it seems alot of thier games dont get released in europe.:(
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#39 jasonharris48
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Recently Atlus has done a better job when it comes to both Publishing and developing. Over all thosugh I would have to go with Square.

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#40 jyoung312
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Atlus just for bringing Demons' Souls to the US. I can't believe that Sony didn't do this themselves especially since Sony Japan helped FROM software make the game.

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#41 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

Square Enix.

other then persona i cant think of anything atlus has made.

Nocturne (God like), Digital Devlil Saga 1 & 2 (good), Devil Survivor (awesome), Contact, Disgaea (outstanding), Devil Summoner, more I can't think of right now.

i searched those in google and it seems alot of thier games dont get released in europe.:(

I believe they are called 'Megaten' over there, try that.
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#42 sonicthemegaman
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Overall: Square

These days: Atlus

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Final Fantasy Boi!

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#44 Silent-Hal
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I believe they are called 'Megaten' over there, try that.Bigboi500
I think Megaten is just a short hand for Megami Tensei. It still says Atlus on my Person 3 case anyway.
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#45 Bigboi500
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Final Fantasy Boi!

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That's Bigboi. Get it right. :P

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#46 WAIW
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I'm pretty sure Atlus is the factually correct answer. Shin Megami Tensei/Persona, Super Robot Taisen, Etrian Odyssey, etc. etc. etc.; Square hasn't really put out anything decent other than TWEWY in the past few years [though I haven't played Crisis Core or Dissidia...].

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#47 Silent-Hal
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I'm pretty sure Atlus is the factually correct answer. Shin Megami Tensei/Persona, Super Robot Taisen, Etrian Odyssey, etc. etc. etc.; Square hasn't really put out anything decent other than TWEWY in the past few years [though I haven't played Crisis Core or Dissidia...].

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Eh, Crisis Core was okay. It's production values were top notch but it's gameplay was too linear and repetitive and it's story was convoluted and overly melodramatic.
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#48 ceruxx
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Probably Atlus, but honestly, I don't like Persona so ...

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#49 Crispenz
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I don't like Atlus games. Square Enix has some of my favorite games and i'm looking forward to FFXIII and Kingdom Hearts 3. Not looking forward to anything Atlus.
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#50 ShadowedSight
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Squaresoft is way better than Atlus.

but Atlus is way better than Square Enix.