Realistically, do you think next gen AAA games can achieve stable 4K/60fps on next gen consoles?

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Posted by SolidGame_basic (24041 posts) 2 months, 27 days ago

Poll: Realistically, do you think next gen AAA games can achieve stable 4K/60fps on next gen consoles? (118 votes)

Yes 38%
No 62%

I'm a skeptic on this. 4k/60 fps would be really demanding. Consoles have usually nort been ahead of the curve like that. Do you think it'll happen, SW?

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#1 Posted by enzyme36 (4152 posts) -

I've seen a lot of console games stuck at 30 fps ... even at 1080p. I dont think 4k / 60 will be the standard anytime soon.

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#2 Edited by True_Link (243 posts) -

I don't think 60fps will ever be what devs will aim for unless the manufacturers require them to. Most gamers (casuals of course) value graphics rather than fps.

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#3 Posted by Pedro (33951 posts) -

Once they prioritize performance I don't see why not.

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#4 Posted by PC_Rocks (2046 posts) -

Most won't be 60 FPS and many won't even be 4K.

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#5 Posted by Fedor (4632 posts) -

Lol, no. Devs will always prioritize pretty visuals over fps. Sexy sells.

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#6 Posted by NfamousLegend (324 posts) -

Sure why not? Many AAA games this gen hit 60fps on weak Jaguar cores. If next gen consoles have 8c16t or a flat 8c zen2 uArc 60fps will be relatively easy. Of course many games will be 30fps and if 60 isn't needed then that's fine. Excellent AI, next gen physics and a believable world are perhaps more important.

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#8 Posted by cainetao11 (36500 posts) -

Do I think they can? Yes. Will they? I doubt it.

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#9 Posted by jahnee (3983 posts) -

Single player games 30, multiplayer 60. That would be a good norm.

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#10 Posted by Stevo_the_gamer (45137 posts) -

I never expected to see native 4K on major games this generation but the Xbox One X proved me wrong there. I'm optimistic developers can pull it off.

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#11 Posted by PCgameruk (2269 posts) -

4k 30fps yes 4k 60fps hell no.

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#12 Posted by emgesp (7830 posts) -

Well of course it will doable, but it won't be the standard. You can definitely expect it from Forza and possibly even the next Halo game.

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#13 Posted by sealionact (3795 posts) -

X1X manages 4k 60 fps in some games already, so keeping the details at medium for next gen consoles should allow for 4k 60fps on most games. Upscaled 4k 60 fps is more realistic maybe.

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#14 Posted by Zaryia (8203 posts) -

No.

Scatteh, m3dude, m3boarder, Giovela, Carlos, blackhairedhero, etc are going to have to deal with a distant 2nd/3rd place again.

Deal with it.

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#15 Posted by SOedipus (11398 posts) -

No. They don’t even achieve 60fps on 1080p as a standard now.

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#16 Posted by watercrack445 (1446 posts) -

No, I think it will be 25 fps with 1080 p

Just look at Anthem, Skyrim and fallout 4 long loading times

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#17 Posted by pyro1245 (4924 posts) -

Not at 4K, no.

They could have stable 60 with variable resolution.

But we all know they will choose 30fps as the target.

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#18 Posted by lundy86_4 (52721 posts) -

It's certainly doable. It won't happen, but the hardware will be capable. Devs/pubs would have to reduce graphical fidelity, and that just doesn't seem to be a priority in order to put out stable performance in games.

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#19 Posted by Howmakewood (5799 posts) -

Considering next gen consoles are most likely about xbox one x *2 ~12tflops, so with the xbox one x settings it would make for 60fps, but that's doubly going to happen as the devs are just going to push for higher visual fidelity

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#20 Posted by Zero_epyon (13139 posts) -

4K in the majority of games is likely. 4K/60? very small numbers of 4K/60 titles. It's going to be a 4K/30 1080p/60 generation.

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#21 Posted by NfamousLegend (324 posts) -

@Zero_epyon: you won't see many if any 1080p games next gen. 1440 is likely the bottom resolution. Didn't see many 720p games this gen and didn't see many 480p games last gen. 1080p going the way of the dodo.

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#22 Posted by Blackhairedhero (3221 posts) -

With current gen console visuals? Yes

With games that push the visual bar higher? No

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#23 Posted by Zero_epyon (13139 posts) -
@nfamouslegend said:

@Zero_epyon: you won't see many if any 1080p games next gen. 1440 is likely the bottom resolution. Didn't see many 720p games this gen and didn't see many 480p games last gen. 1080p going the way of the dodo.

Consoles are marketed towards consumers playing on Televisions. The standard resolution on those TV's is 1080p or 4K. Rendering games at 1440p will do almost nothing for 1080p players. Might as well save some of that for performance or visual quality.

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#24 Posted by MonsieurX (38996 posts) -

Not happening

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#25 Posted by JoshRMeyer (10347 posts) -

Even the base Xbox One can do 1080p/60 in Forza and I'm sure others and that's a fairly weak system compared to the competition. What games are we talking here? Racing and sports games should be easily ran at 4k/60. If a game can't run it native, I'd prefer check board 4k/60 over native 4k/30. There's barely a difference visually and a huge difference in performance, which actually makes the game look better also. So, yes, for sure they can.

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#26 Posted by Chutebox (44491 posts) -

Yes, easily....if games look like pong.

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#27 Posted by NfamousLegend (324 posts) -

@Zero_epyon: almost everyone will have a 4K tv in the 2020s. Most people I know including myself have had one for years.

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#28 Posted by Zero_epyon (13139 posts) -
@nfamouslegend said:

@Zero_epyon: almost everyone will have a 4K tv in the 2020s. Most people I know including myself have had one for years.

Yeah don't count on that. It took forever for people to finally get 1080p TVs. They will remain the majority going into next gen.

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#29 Posted by NfamousLegend (324 posts) -

@joshrmeyer: my thoughts exactly. There plenty of AAA games that do 60fps now, some even at 4k. People forget how weak the Jaguar core is, going from that to a possible 16 thread zen even st 3.5ghz will be massive. And 10-12tflop gpu should allow for next gen visuals too.

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#30 Posted by NfamousLegend (324 posts) -

@Zero_epyon: what makes you think that? They dont even really sell sub-4k tv anymore at least not in America. You really think in 2026 people will still be on 1080?

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#31 Posted by xantufrog (11169 posts) -

I don't see it happening. They *could* if devs prioritized framerate over eye candy, but people like eye candy and so...

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#32 Posted by Zero_epyon (13139 posts) -
@nfamouslegend said:

@Zero_epyon: what makes you think that? They dont even really sell sub-4k tv anymore at least not in America. You really think in 2026 people will still be on 1080?

That's not true.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchpage.jsp?id=pcat17071&st=1080p+tv

There are people with 720p (also there are 720p TVs on the market still) TVs right now. Of course there will be 1080p TVs. Especially when a 1080p TV is so cheap compared to the 4K ones.

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#33 Posted by Heil68 (58221 posts) -

Probably not, but with SONY pushing the boundaries, I can see them doing it.

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#34 Edited by SolidGame_basic (24041 posts) -
@Heil68 said:

Probably not, but with SONY pushing the boundaries, I can see them doing it.

Woah, that's a name you don't see too often.

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#35 Posted by ProtossRushX (5240 posts) -

yes 4k 60 FPS will be the new standard on PS5

screw 30 FPS games they run like crap like metro exodus

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#36 Posted by xhawk27 (11188 posts) -

@Heil68 said:

Probably not, but with SONY pushing the boundaries, I can see them doing it.

Yeah like the Pro. LOL

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#37 Posted by lundy86_4 (52721 posts) -

@ProtossRushX: Mate, history is not on your side. At all. I understand you have a boner for Sony, but let's keep expectations somewhat realistic lol.

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#38 Posted by Random_Matt (3952 posts) -

If they drop the 4K buzz, checkerboarding is fine.

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#39 Posted by Mandzilla (4037 posts) -

Nah, I don't see it happening.

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#40 Posted by AcidTango (1658 posts) -

The question is will they even be able to run games at 1440p on a stable 60fps for next gen?

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#41 Posted by JasonOfA36 (1212 posts) -

Delusional fanboys would say yes.

TBF, it depends on the engine and the quality. But mostly, no, unless you're willing to spend the premium on it.

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#42 Posted by tormentos (28747 posts) -

I voted no but maybe on low settings.

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#43 Posted by BassMan (10035 posts) -

Provided that the CPU is not going to be a major bottleneck like this gen, I think them targeting 4k/60fps with a dynamic resolution is the way to go. The most important thing is that they maintain the 60fps performance target.

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#44 Posted by XVision84 (15790 posts) -

Current gen consoles can do 4k 60fps stable. The game just won't look amazing. In the same way, of course next gen can do 4k 60fps. It won't though because devs can make a much better looking game at 4k 30fps.

At most I can see it being optional on the higher end models of next gen consoles.

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#45 Posted by Raining51 (804 posts) -

Easily, they already ahve in most cases...

So this is just an issue of the broad based nature of the use of the system which could also easily be forthcoming.

@XVision84 said:

Current gen consoles can do 4k 60fps stable. The game just won't look amazing. In the same way, of course next gen can do 4k 60fps. It won't though because devs can make a much better looking game at 4k 30fps.

At most I can see it being optional on the higher end models of next gen consoles.

Er, yeah kinda a variation on this.

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#46 Posted by Pedro (33951 posts) -

Some of the responses in this thread are acting as if there are no games currently on consoles that are not 4k at 60fps. 4k at 60 FPS will factually be achievable, and like others said would they actually use the systems for that goal would be dependent on the developer.

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#47 Posted by dagubot (1233 posts) -

I believe it.

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#48 Posted by Caj1986 (281 posts) -

Depends on the hardware. To pull 4k @60 requires brute force hardware. 2 factors come into point too, the game engine & what settings the game is pulling 4k@60. Proab pairing a heavily clocked i3 /ryzen with a 1660ti/590 is posb but for sure the price factor is definetly to be taken in account for

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#49 Posted by sakaiXx (5315 posts) -

Yes, why not. If Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo willing to do it we will get it.

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#50 Posted by AJStyles (736 posts) -

PS5: 8K/120FPS

Sony has already shown Gran Turismo as proof.

Xbox Whatever: 4K/30FPS. Forza will get 4K/60FPS.

Nintendo: 240i-900p/10-30FPS.