Realistically, do you think next gen AAA games can achieve stable 4K/60fps on next gen consoles?

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Poll Realistically, do you think next gen AAA games can achieve stable 4K/60fps on next gen consoles? (118 votes)

Yes 38%
No 62%

I'm a skeptic on this. 4k/60 fps would be really demanding. Consoles have usually nort been ahead of the curve like that. Do you think it'll happen, SW?

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#51 Dark_sageX
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Unless developers sacrifice graphically Fidelity and manufacturers sell their consoles at a HUUUGGEEE loss due to the tech it requires to run games at 4k/60fps (ie at GTX 1080 Ti level or above), no its not possible.

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#52 Kadin_Kai
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@undefined: I think 4K60FPS will be rare on the next gen because most developers will aim for better graphics. We will likely see many games run at 4K30FPS with dynamic scaling.

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#53 tdkmillsy
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There is rumour of raytracing in next gen consoles, games that use it no chance. Games that don't will get to it.

The X does it already and Microsoft have demonstrated they can bring it hardware wise.

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#54 SecretPolice
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Yes but only for systems running Win10. Well, unless Nindtendont soon becomes a division of MS and finally becomes Ninten-Do. :P

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#55  Edited By KillzoneSnake
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Of course some will. Looking at Xbox Next leaked specs of 12 TF GPU, yup. The typical yearly casual CoD will hit 4K/60 with somewhat better graphics than now. Just dont expect the real graphic beasts like Horizon 2 or whatever Guerrilla are working on to run at 60. Maybe on a future PS5 Pro or Xbox Two X.

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#56 GoldenElementXL
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@KillzoneSnake: I’m gonna need a source for that leak. And it better not be CrapGamer, Dealer or that Dee clown

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#57  Edited By thereal25
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No, expect 4k, 30fps tops!

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#58 Heil68
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@xhawk27 said:
@Heil68 said:

Probably not, but with SONY pushing the boundaries, I can see them doing it.

Yeah like the Pro. LOL

Exactly and look what they did, pushed MS with the Xflop 1...

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#59 NfamousLegend
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@goldenelementxl: the leak comes via Jeauxvideo or something like that. It is one of the biggest websites in France.

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#60 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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The answer will always be no because developers push the hardware to breaking point because graphics sell.

That said there will always be exceptions and it doesn't matter console gamer's are pretty much settled into 30FPS.

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#62 CrashNBurn281
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They could achieve that now. It is all about how many bells and whistles they cram into the game and where they target the performance. So odds are they wont achieve ot next gen either. They haven't had that as a priority.

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#63 CTR360
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i hope yes

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#64 mrbojangles25
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No. I mean they can barely do 30 fps at 1080p.

It's all pointless conjecture, though; in two years they'll be striving for 8k as the next selling point and doing that as poorly as they do everything else.

The cycle continues! Fail at 1080, fail at 4k, and move on to 8k and fail at that. meanwhile, the detail and quality will be going down while the "resolution wars" fight on.

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#65 R4gn4r0k
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4K/60 is not realistic, no

For current gen it was hard to see 1080/60 in a lot of games. Most were 1080/30 and some were even below 1080p. 900p was a common thing at the start of this gen and throughout the entire gen.

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#66  Edited By APiranhaAteMyVa
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No most likely 4K/30. I would rather they prioritised framerate over 4K res though, but it is doubtful because the BonerX prioritising 4K means they wont be able to go back and start making 1080 to 1440 resolution games, as you'd get a bunch of moaners saying well the BonerX has some 4K games so all games on Xbox 4 and PS5 need to be targeting 4K.

Such a waste as a lot of movies you get on UHD disc are just upscaled from 2k (2048×1080), if that is good enough for cinemas which have 50ft screens its good enough for a 55" TV at home. Game asset quality and framerate will make it seem a lot more next gen than 4k which is a total waste, so most likely next gen its going to seem like a pretty small jump.

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#67 dzimm
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Who cares? All that matters is whether or not the games are fun. And increasingly, big budget AAA games that push modern hardware to its limits are becoming less fun to play. Small budget indies are where it's at.

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#68 osan0
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no. they can stuff two 2080TIs with intels finest and 64GB of the fastest memory money can buy into a box and it still wouldn't achieve 4k 60FPS.

this is just applying PC logic to things that are not PCs. that is not how it works.

the PC can (hardware and game willing) achieve 4K 60FPS because of excess processing capacity. that's it. the developer of a game targeted a certain spec for a certain res and framerate (usually 900P or 1080P 30FPS) and the PC the game is running far exceeds that target so it can run the game faster.

4k 60FPS is not a hardware problem (at least on the PS4 pro and X1X. i think the HDMI standard on the base models may be a bit too old for 4K and 60 FPS). its a policy problem. the only way we will see 4K 60FPS across the board on all titles next gen is if console manufacturers put the foot down and demand it as part of the developers licence to develop for a console. that is the only way it will happen.

it is not going to happen. it will be left at the discretion of developers like this gen.

the hardware will be well capable of 4K 60FPS with a certain level of visual fidelity but devs will target the pretties most of the time.

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#69 Litchie
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@SOedipus: "No. They don’t even achieve 60fps on 1080p as a standard now."

The truth. ^

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#70  Edited By pmanden
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@ajstyles: Do you seriously believe that the PS5 will be 8k/120 fps? Have you asked yourself what such a machine would cost? A current PC that can run any game in 8k/120 fps would probably cost around 10000-15000 USD. If such a PC even exists. Is anybody here in this forum even gaming in 8k?

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#71 Telekill  Online
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I honestly don't care about 60fps at 4K.

Are the games fun? Are the games engaging? Those are the questions that matter.

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#72 Alucard_Prime
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Personally I don't think this an interesting question, doesn't even make sense to me.

It's absolutely impossible, no matter how powerful the next premium consoles are, that they will hit 4K-60 fps on all games. There are too many variables to account for where brute force doesn't matter as much, such as the engine being used and how efficient it is, the competence of the developer, etc

Furthermore, for that to happen this would imply that the console is so powerful that it could run the most demanding of games, I.e. an open world game, at 4K -60 fps which means it would be overpowered for almost every other game, and that's just not good console design imo.

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#73 gamespot4life
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lol feeling sorry for the console only gamers......

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#74 sonny2dap
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You can't show 60fps in marketing material but you can show off eye candy, so the eye candy will win and performance will be a secondary concern.

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#75 GarGx1
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Not without some big compromises in the graphics and main stream love graphics, so it's not going to happen with AAA budget titles.

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#76 DragonfireXZ95
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They'd have to sacrifice graphical fidelity, and with PC being in the running for most games, it's not going to happen. It'll be like back in the day when they showed PC footage for a new game, and then it looked like absolute crap on console and all the console gamers were pissed.

So, they'll lower settings, but just enough to hit that 4k/dynamic scaling/30 FPS mark. Some games will probably still use dynamic scaling to stay above 30 fps.

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#77  Edited By BassMan
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This gen was fucked up because the CPUs were so weak and were a major bottleneck not only holding back frame rate, but limiting the advancement of simulations. I would like to avoid this happening next gen so that the industry can take some major strides forward. Making things prettier is starting to get stale. Game designs barely evolved from last gen to current gen.

Personally, I would love for there to be a multi-tier console launch. However, all the consoles would feature a beastly CPU so that they could target at least 60fps on all games and feature advanced simulations. The basic console would target 1080p/60fps to keep the price down (most of the cost going into the CPU). The premium console could have a more powerful GPU that would offer increased resolution and maybe some added graphical features. The added GPU power of the premium is basically to take advantage of 4K displays. They could also offer up a more powerful CPU in an elite model, but only to accommodate high refresh rate displays. The scope of the game would still be tied to the basic model CPU and GPU with the 1080p/60fps target. So...

Basic = Powerful CPU and decent GPU for advanced games at a respectable 1080p/60fps.

Premium = More powerful GPU to take advantage of higher resolutions.

Elite = More powerful GPU and CPU to take advantage of higher resolutions or high refresh rate displays.

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#78 kuu2
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@Stevo_the_gamer said:

I never expected to see native 4K on major games this generation but the Xbox One X proved me wrong there. I'm optimistic developers can pull it off.

Someone that's paying attention.

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#79 Tigerbalm
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Probably 4K Checkerboard with 60fps on high settings

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#80  Edited By AJStyles
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@pmanden: Gran Turismo was already shown to run at 8K/120FPS.

Gran Turismo is a showcase game. It will achieve it.

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#81 pmanden
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@ajstyles: I'm not sure whether you are serious or trolling. Nobody in this forum believes that it was a PS5 running Gran Turismo. It is likely that the PS5 can run 8k VIDEO, but gaming in 8k require insane power. For example, to run The Witcher 3 at 8k and "only" 60 fps you need to pay 5000 USD for graphics cards alone. Check out https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-lets-play-pc-gaming-at-8k-resolution

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#82 genius2365
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Let's start by achieving a consistent 1080p / 60 FPS across all games before debating about a consistent 4K / 60 FPS

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#83  Edited By Paradocs
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On a medium settings equivalent, maybe, but either way, devs will prioritize visuals over frame-rate, so if you want both you'll most likely still need a PC.

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#84 Pedro
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People are still claiming that consoles are keeping back gaming? I am still looking for the game that was documented to be held back by consoles and was ONLY possible on more powerful PC hardware. As a side note, the majority of PC gamers have weak hardware but those folks aren't holding back gaming. :)

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#85 adsparky
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Last gen we got several 1080p games running at 30fps, one would think that 1080p at 60fps would be the standard this gen, but nope, so i guess the vast majority will opt for either 4k or 60fps, with just a few having both.

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#86  Edited By deactivated-60113e7859d7d
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I expect 4K 30 fps to be the standard. 4K is too popular now not to be in the majority of console games next gen.

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#87 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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Let me get this straight you guys think a PS5/X4 that are rumoured to be around next year will be a fast as a RTX 2080 Ti?... Why do I say this?... Because its THE only card to run MOST current games at 4K/60FPS.

Look at the words I used "THE only card"... "MOST current games"... Let that sink in, a $1000+ GPU in 2019 with CURRENT games and it can't run all of them at 4K/60 and you expect a 2020-2021 console at $400 to run FUTURE games at 4K/60?... A console with a GPU from AMD?... AMD the company that just released a GPU for $700 that can't even keep up with a 2017 1080 Ti?...

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#88 scatteh316
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Man some people are just plain retarded.... how many times do I have to say this...???

Developers will NEVER, EVER, EVER choose 60fps over 30fps with better graphics on consoles.

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#89 scatteh316
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@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

Let me get this straight you guys think a PS5/X4 that are rumoured to be around next year will be a fast as a RTX 2080 Ti?... Why do I say this?... Because its THE only card to run MOST current games at 4K/60FPS.

Look at the words I used "THE only card"... "MOST current games"... Let that sink in, a $1000+ GPU in 2019 with CURRENT games and it can't run all of them at 4K/60 and you expect a 2020-2021 console at $400 to run FUTURE games at 4K/60?... A console with a GPU from AMD?... AMD the company that just released a GPU for $700 that can't even keep up with a 2017 1080 Ti?...

Why are you assuming max settings? They could easily handle AAA games at 4k/60 if developers would be willing to sacrifice graphic quality (Which won't ever happen on a console)

So while your post is true in some respects it's also dumb for assuming it's simply not possible, which it would be.

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#90 EG101
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More games will hit 60 FPS but the majority of AAA games will still be 30 FPS, hopefully a locked 30 FPS.

Where I think they can improve is probably giving us better performance modes. On the XB1X when a game is 4K 30fps if the game has a performance mode they are usually hitting 1080P 60fps instead of 1440P 60FPS. In that scenario I believe the CPU is the bottleneck not the GPU. Next gen I expect some performance modes might be 1440P 60 FPS or maybe even 1800P 60FPS.

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#91  Edited By EG101
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@APiranhaAteMyVa said:

No most likely 4K/30. I would rather they prioritised framerate over 4K res though, but it is doubtful because the BonerX prioritising 4K means they wont be able to go back and start making 1080 to 1440 resolution games, as you'd get a bunch of moaners saying well the BonerX has some 4K games so all games on Xbox 4 and PS5 need to be targeting 4K.

Such a waste as a lot of movies you get on UHD disc are just upscaled from 2k (2048×1080), if that is good enough for cinemas which have 50ft screens its good enough for a 55" TV at home. Game asset quality and framerate will make it seem a lot more next gen than 4k which is a total waste, so most likely next gen its going to seem like a pretty small jump.

The movies that are true 4K look way better than the 2K movies.

Also movies and games are not really comparable that way.

You can see every sharp corner on a video game image which is different than movies. Also the amount of detail in a game doesn't really come close to real life.

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#92 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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@scatteh316 said:
@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

Let me get this straight you guys think a PS5/X4 that are rumoured to be around next year will be a fast as a RTX 2080 Ti?... Why do I say this?... Because its THE only card to run MOST current games at 4K/60FPS.

Look at the words I used "THE only card"... "MOST current games"... Let that sink in, a $1000+ GPU in 2019 with CURRENT games and it can't run all of them at 4K/60 and you expect a 2020-2021 console at $400 to run FUTURE games at 4K/60?... A console with a GPU from AMD?... AMD the company that just released a GPU for $700 that can't even keep up with a 2017 1080 Ti?...

Why are you assuming max settings? They could easily handle AAA games at 4k/60 if developers would be willing to sacrifice graphic quality (Which won't ever happen on a console)

So while your post is true in some respects it's also dumb for assuming it's simply not possible, which it would be.

You clearly didn't think before you typed.

The 2080 Ti a $1000+ GPU cannot run every CURRENT game at 4K/60FPS... CURRENT, so yes a PS5 doesn't have to run current games at max settings but those are current games IF A PS5 would have to lower settings for CURRENT games then what makes you think 4K/60 would be possible for what ever games come out for the PS5?...

Not really hard to understand... Unless you think a PS5 will be more powerful than a PC with a i9 and a RTX 2080 Ti?

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#93 Ten_Pints
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For first party titles I'm gonna say yes, others devs are hit and miss even on PC. You are not ever going to play some titles at stable 60 at any resoultion never mind 4k. I've yet to see anyone who can play a game like X4 at stable 60 no matter what hardware you have.

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#94 TheEroica  Moderator
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I am so not looking forward to hardware performance comparisons and speculation for the next year.... Nothing is more boring than talking about Tflops, Ram speeds and resolution. Bleh.

My expectations for next gen are that when I press "on" the console starts every time and plays games that hopefully are fun to play.

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#95  Edited By Jackamomo
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@ajstyles: If Sony can showcase a game now using current hardware then in 4-5 years, that software will be obsolete.

Given console makers tendency to target 30fps, as 60fps is more valued in shooting and driving skill based games, 60fps will be the less graphically impressive games.

When 2025 rolls around graphics will be more advanced and console games will want to reflect that, so the boundaries of frame rate will always be being tested in 3d games requiring stupendous amount of realtime calculations to achieve the latest effects.

So you can get 60fps. But it won't be the very latest graphics. Thats just not affordable when your console has to sell for $500 and the latest graphics card is $500.

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#96  Edited By 04dcarraher
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@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

You clearly didn't think before you typed.

The 2080 Ti a $1000+ GPU cannot run every CURRENT game at 4K/60FPS... CURRENT, so yes a PS5 doesn't have to run current games at max settings but those are current games IF A PS5 would have to lower settings for CURRENT games then what makes you think 4K/60 would be possible for what ever games come out for the PS5?...

Not really hard to understand... Unless you think a PS5 will be more powerful than a PC with a i9 and a RTX 2080 Ti?

AMD has nothing..... nothing on the GPU front that will allow a ~150w TDP GPU that will match even a GTX 1080ti/RTX 2080 even at 7nm..... It took a 7nm 60 CU with 16gb HBM based Radeon VII a ~300w TDP gpu to be comparable to those two gpus. Even if we believe the rumors of RX 3080 "NAVI 10" its suppose to be around 150w TDP and its target of GTX 1080/ RTX 2070 ~Vega 64 levels of performance. Also if they are going to throw a ~3ghz eight core Ryzen+/or Zen 2 into the APU, that will take more room and power which will eat into TDP limit and price.

Realistically, we will most likely see PS5 have a 100w TDP based NAVI "12" with around 3ghz 8 core Ryzen based cpu. Which will provide, I would say around VEGA 56 type of processing power. But from a stand point of comparing it to PS4 Pro..... alone its 2x faster at 4k. And would be around 45% faster than X1X. And comparing Ryzen vs the weak jaguar based cpus its magnitudes faster....

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#97  Edited By scatteh316
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@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:
@scatteh316 said:
@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

Let me get this straight you guys think a PS5/X4 that are rumoured to be around next year will be a fast as a RTX 2080 Ti?... Why do I say this?... Because its THE only card to run MOST current games at 4K/60FPS.

Look at the words I used "THE only card"... "MOST current games"... Let that sink in, a $1000+ GPU in 2019 with CURRENT games and it can't run all of them at 4K/60 and you expect a 2020-2021 console at $400 to run FUTURE games at 4K/60?... A console with a GPU from AMD?... AMD the company that just released a GPU for $700 that can't even keep up with a 2017 1080 Ti?...

Why are you assuming max settings? They could easily handle AAA games at 4k/60 if developers would be willing to sacrifice graphic quality (Which won't ever happen on a console)

So while your post is true in some respects it's also dumb for assuming it's simply not possible, which it would be.

You clearly didn't think before you typed.

The 2080 Ti a $1000+ GPU cannot run every CURRENT game at 4K/60FPS... CURRENT, so yes a PS5 doesn't have to run current games at max settings but those are current games IF A PS5 would have to lower settings for CURRENT games then what makes you think 4K/60 would be possible for what ever games come out for the PS5?...

Not really hard to understand... Unless you think a PS5 will be more powerful than a PC with a i9 and a RTX 2080 Ti?

You just lost and owned yourself with that comment and you clearly didn't think before you typed it.

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#98  Edited By Grey_Eyed_Elf
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@scatteh316 said:
@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:
@scatteh316 said:
@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

Let me get this straight you guys think a PS5/X4 that are rumoured to be around next year will be a fast as a RTX 2080 Ti?... Why do I say this?... Because its THE only card to run MOST current games at 4K/60FPS.

Look at the words I used "THE only card"... "MOST current games"... Let that sink in, a $1000+ GPU in 2019 with CURRENT games and it can't run all of them at 4K/60 and you expect a 2020-2021 console at $400 to run FUTURE games at 4K/60?... A console with a GPU from AMD?... AMD the company that just released a GPU for $700 that can't even keep up with a 2017 1080 Ti?...

Why are you assuming max settings? They could easily handle AAA games at 4k/60 if developers would be willing to sacrifice graphic quality (Which won't ever happen on a console)

So while your post is true in some respects it's also dumb for assuming it's simply not possible, which it would be.

You clearly didn't think before you typed.

The 2080 Ti a $1000+ GPU cannot run every CURRENT game at 4K/60FPS... CURRENT, so yes a PS5 doesn't have to run current games at max settings but those are current games IF A PS5 would have to lower settings for CURRENT games then what makes you think 4K/60 would be possible for what ever games come out for the PS5?...

Not really hard to understand... Unless you think a PS5 will be more powerful than a PC with a i9 and a RTX 2080 Ti?

You just lost and owned yourself with that comment and you clearly didn't think before you typed it.

What?...

Do you have brain damage?

I'll repeat for the last time, its very simple:

  1. A RTX 2080 Ti is a $1000K GPU
  2. It cannot run all CURRENT generation games at 4k/60 max settings
  3. The PS5 won't be as powerful as a RTX 2080 Ti
  4. Next generation of games will be more demanding than the current

So if a RTX 2080 Ti has to lower settings to get 4k/60 with current games and the PS5 wont be as powerful... A PS5 even with lowered settings would probably stuggle to get 4K/60 on MOST that are unreleased because games get better looking over time and with that comes more strain on the hardware.

Its really not rocket science son. I don't disagree with you completely it can be down because their are always exceptions but judging by the fact that the coming consoles will have to run more demanding games I just don't see it happening since that console if released now won't be able to run most games at 4K/60 even on high settings.

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#99  Edited By scatteh316
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@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:
@scatteh316 said:
@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:
@scatteh316 said:

Why are you assuming max settings? They could easily handle AAA games at 4k/60 if developers would be willing to sacrifice graphic quality (Which won't ever happen on a console)

So while your post is true in some respects it's also dumb for assuming it's simply not possible, which it would be.

You clearly didn't think before you typed.

The 2080 Ti a $1000+ GPU cannot run every CURRENT game at 4K/60FPS... CURRENT, so yes a PS5 doesn't have to run current games at max settings but those are current games IF A PS5 would have to lower settings for CURRENT games then what makes you think 4K/60 would be possible for what ever games come out for the PS5?...

Not really hard to understand... Unless you think a PS5 will be more powerful than a PC with a i9 and a RTX 2080 Ti?

You just lost and owned yourself with that comment and you clearly didn't think before you typed it.

What?...

Do you have brain damage?

I'll repeat for the last time, its very simple:

  1. A RTX 2080 Ti is a $1000K GPU
  2. It cannot run all CURRENT generation games at 4k/60 max settings
  3. The PS5 won't be as powerful as a RTX 2080 Ti
  4. Next generation of games will be more demanding than the current

So if a RTX 2080 Ti has to lower settings to get 4k/60 with current games and the PS5 wont be as powerful... A PS5 even with lowered settings would probably stuggle to get 4K/60 on MOST that are unreleased because games get better looking over time and with that comes more strain on the hardware.

Its really not rocket science son. I don't disagree with you completely it can be down because their are always exceptions but judging by the fact that the coming consoles will have to run more demanding games I just don't see it happening since that console if released now won't be able to run most games at 4K/60 even on high settings.

You really are dumb

1. There are no rules anywhere that says you HAVE to use max settings so putting that limitation in to the equations is dumb as ****, especially as no where in the OP's question and poll did he say it must be at MAX settings......you're doing nothing but adding a bullshit variable in to the equation to make your retarded point and logic seem like it has merit......news flash...it doesn't...

2. The RTX 2080ti with reduced settings is more then capable of 4k/60 in current games with head room to spare, especially as for 99% of games it won't even be stretched to hit 4k60.

3. PS5 with reduced settings would also be capable of 4k/60......it might be at low settings, it might be high settings.....but the hardware can do it (If the developers choose to go 4k/30 that is not the consoles fault) and to suggest the hardware is not capable of it is retarded.......

So take your 'It must be at MAX settings' bull shit and do one....son.

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#100  Edited By PAL360
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Yes, we will finally have 60fps standard, mark my words. As for native 4k, i don't know...and i don't care.