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#251 InsaneBasura
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I'm confused!!!!! I don't know what to think of the game. On one hand I go by 3 mayor sites. Gamespot, IGN and Gametrailers. Both G's gave it AAA while IGN = A. Hmm so it's AA in my mind so it must be good.

But still, I'm confused!

Edit: Even more confused!! Gamespot's says that the PS3 version has better framerate and IGN says otherwise.

HELP

xooco

I like how IGN openly states that AC has a poor story.

And then GS gives it a merit for having a great story.

WTF?

CelineDion

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's like the twilight zone or something. Wuz goin on?!!?!
Either way, it stays unpreordered until I've made sense out of this nonsense.


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#252 Sonick54
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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]:lol:and it starts. PS3 gets another one.Can't wait to pick this up along with Uncharted damn I am glad I went with PS3 we get all the good games.-Renegade

You realise its multiplat right?

But PS3 has the better version. 8)

last i chcked, 9.0=9.0

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#253 jfreshmatrix
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Ladys, this is what you call, a love it, or hate it type game, if you hate, all those flaws are gonna come through even more, if you love it, those flaws want get in the way of you having an amazing time, its all up to you the gamer.
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#254 Kratos_OMEGA
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uuhhh I think I'll just wait for the PC version and see if they upgrade it.

Blue-Sky

I heavily doubt that.

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#255 lilhomes
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YESSSS after reading 1up and IGN I wasnt gonna get this game after so much hype for it but I definatly am now,

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#257 Warp_2567
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Assassin's Creed isn't that great at all. The combat and abilities reminds me of Tenchu + Heavenly Sword, but still ends up being broken. 
After playing this game, I can really see Uncharted scoring AAA
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#258 InsaneBasura
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Ladys, this is what you call, a love it, or hate it type game, if you hate, all those flaws are gonna come through even more, if you love it, those flaws want get in the way of you having an amazing time, its all up to you the gamer.jfreshmatrix

But you don't know if you hate it or love it until you've bought it, and then it's already too late. damn it!

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#259 cakeorrdeath
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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]:lol:and it starts. PS3 gets another one.Can't wait to pick this up along with Uncharted damn I am glad I went with PS3 we get all the good games.-Renegade

You realise its multiplat right?

But PS3 has the better version. 8)

Says who?, gamespot didnt.

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#260 Cry0Tek
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[QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]:lol:and it starts. PS3 gets another one.Can't wait to pick this up along with Uncharted damn I am glad I went with PS3 we get all the good games.Sonick54

You realise its multiplat right?

But PS3 has the better version. 8)

last i chcked, 9.0=9.0

Seriosly...that was a moronic comment. 9.0 friend for both systems.

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#261 Insideous_rex
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Guys, don't forget that Game Trailers gave it a 9.1 and they tend to be pretty balanced with their reviews.

So, you have 3 options;

Believe 1up and IGN

Believe GS and GT

Play it for yourself.

I'd go with the third option.

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#262 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"]

QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]This is all just really confusing and weird. Half of the critics basically find no faults and the other half calls it a disappointment mostly due to its repetitive design. I don't know who to believe. I lean towards Eurogamer though. The positive reviews just seem to glance over everything, not going in depth about anything really. The "7" sites don't get their complaints from nowhere you know, the positive reviews just seem to be ignoring them.-Renegade

What's confusing me is the huge contradictions between these reviews, spifically GS v.s. IGN, and it's not just the differences between the two versions either. IGN says the audio design is nothing special, GS says it's incredible. IGN says the story is bad, GS says it's awesome. It's like they played two entirely different games.

Well this reminds of the Heavenly Sword review. I think IGN seriously underrated that game.

It is exactly what happend with HS, but if you want the more reliable source, go with GS, they just copy paste what I did say in my posts lol, seriously though, GS is right with the score, I loved every word in their review also.

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#263 ultima-flare
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This game's varied reviews has really opened up my eyes. I am no longer going to base my purchases on review scores as highly as I do now. People have different opinions, as these AC reviews point out. What's most important to me in a game(single player) is story, presentation, and length. I don't need the gameplay to be perfect or super awesome or revolutionary(this would be nice though). As long as the gameplay isn't aggravating, I don't care. This game seems to excel in these areas. Heck, even though Lair got ripped apart in the media, I would give it a 7.5. Sure, its gameplay had some issues, but its great presentation made it a worthwhile experience to me.

Regarding the IGN review. The reviewer of both versions happens to be the editor-in-chief of Xbox 360 IGN. I'm not saying he is bias, but there is always that possibility. Also, no other review source has said that the ps3 version runs at a worse framerate. On the other hand, Gamespot says ps3 version has the better framerate. Generally, Gamespot reviews the final retail versions of games(which explains why they are almost always the last to review), so I will take their word for it; that is, both versions are equally great.

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#264 Ilived
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Both say the 360 version looks better.
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#265 black_awpN1
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Good to see the game didnt flop. Even better to see PS3 version on par with 360 version. PS3 has better Frame rates adn 360 version has better Lighting. So its a toss up.
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#266 Warp_2567
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[QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]:lol:and it starts. PS3 gets another one.Can't wait to pick this up along with Uncharted damn I am glad I went with PS3 we get all the good games.cakeorrdeath

You realise its multiplat right?

But PS3 has the better version. 8)

Says who?, gamespot didnt.

better framerate on PS3

better lighting on 360

"Ps3 owners are blessed with a slightly more solid frame rate, although the 360 version features a little more contrast in the lighting"

though imo, I would pick better frame rate over lighting
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#267 Cry0Tek
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[QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"]

QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]This is all just really confusing and weird. Half of the critics basically find no faults and the other half calls it a disappointment mostly due to its repetitive design. I don't know who to believe. I lean towards Eurogamer though. The positive reviews just seem to glance over everything, not going in depth about anything really. The "7" sites don't get their complaints from nowhere you know, the positive reviews just seem to be ignoring them.HAZE-Unit

What's confusing me is the huge contradictions between these reviews, spifically GS v.s. IGN, and it's not just the differences between the two versions either. IGN says the audio design is nothing special, GS says it's incredible. IGN says the story is bad, GS says it's awesome. It's like they played two entirely different games.

Well this reminds of the Heavenly Sword review. I think IGN seriously underrated that game.

It is exactly what happend with HS, but if you want the more reliable source, go with GS, they just copy paste what I did say in my posts lol, seriously though, GS is right with the score, I loved every word in their review also.

I won't mention the length of that game, which was its downfall, but the art was beautiful.

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#268 TyrantDragon55
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[QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"]

QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]This is all just really confusing and weird. Half of the critics basically find no faults and the other half calls it a disappointment mostly due to its repetitive design. I don't know who to believe. I lean towards Eurogamer though. The positive reviews just seem to glance over everything, not going in depth about anything really. The "7" sites don't get their complaints from nowhere you know, the positive reviews just seem to be ignoring them.HAZE-Unit

What's confusing me is the huge contradictions between these reviews, spifically GS v.s. IGN, and it's not just the differences between the two versions either. IGN says the audio design is nothing special, GS says it's incredible. IGN says the story is bad, GS says it's awesome. It's like they played two entirely different games.

Well this reminds of the Heavenly Sword review. I think IGN seriously underrated that game.

It is exactly what happend with HS, but if you want the more reliable source, go with GS, they just copy paste what I did say in my posts lol, seriously though, GS is right with the score, I loved every word in their review also.

They didn't go into any detail at all though. They spent3 paragraphs talking about the graphics and sound and then just briefly summarized how the gameplay works and what the story is about without any mention of what makes it good or bad. And on top of that they say the game is 20+ hours long, whereas everyother review (including the other positive ones) say 10 - 15.

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#269 cakeorrdeath
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better framerate on PS3

better lighting on 360

"Ps3 owners are blessed with a slightly more solid frame rate, although the 360 version features a little more contrast in the lighting"

though imo, I would pick better frame rate over lightingWarp_2567

You missed out the key line "So its a toss up"

Ie they are as good as each other.

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#270 xTHExJUICEx
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Having stupid AI and repetitive gameplay still has me unconvinced, I guess ill just rent it.

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#271 Hadoken_Kid
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Having stupid AI and repetitive gameplay still has me unconvinced, I guess ill just rent it.

xTHExJUICEx

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#272 ultima-flare
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Having stupid AI and repetitive gameplay still has me unconvinced, I guess ill just rent it.

xTHExJUICEx

I don't think the AI is as bad as some are making it out to be. Supposedly, when you first enter an area, the soldiers aren't suspicious of you and you can get away with a lot of things(hence that scene in the GT review where Altair kills the guard and the other guard looks suspiciously at him but doesn't attack him). Repition might be a problem, but hey, no game is perfect.

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#273 Warp_2567
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[QUOTE="Warp_2567"]

better framerate on PS3

better lighting on 360

"Ps3 owners are blessed with a slightly more solid frame rate, although the 360 version features a little more contrast in the lighting"

though imo, I would pick better frame rate over lightingcakeorrdeath

You missed out the key line "So its a toss up"

Ie they are as good as each other.

I never said one version was better than the other...just clearing up some confusion, thats all :)
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#274 mingo123
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[QUOTE="Warp_2567"]

better framerate on PS3

better lighting on 360

"Ps3 owners are blessed with a slightly more solid frame rate, although the 360 version features a little more contrast in the lighting"

though imo, I would pick better frame rate over lightingcakeorrdeath

You missed out the key line "So its a toss up"

Ie they are as good as each other.

no, they said "it's pretty much a wash" lol pwned...j/k :P

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#275 Kratos_OMEGA
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[QUOTE="xTHExJUICEx"]

Having stupid AI and repetitive gameplay still has me unconvinced, I guess ill just rent it.

Hadoken_Kid

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Kind of ironic but GoW is amazing nonethelss and AC is as well.

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#276 xTHExJUICEx
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[QUOTE="xTHExJUICEx"]

Having stupid AI and repetitive gameplay still has me unconvinced, I guess ill just rent it.

ultima-flare

I don't think the AI is as bad as some are making it out to be. Supposedly, when you first enter an area, the soldiers aren't suspicious of you and you can get away with a lot of things(hence that scene in the GT review where Altair kills the guard and the other guard looks suspiciously at him but doesn't attack him). Repition might be a problem, but hey, no game is perfect.

Well every review has mentioned it, that and repetitive gameplay.....Im just surprised GS is the only site that didnt list it under its "The Bad" category.

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#277 kingyotoX
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Awsome can't w8 to get it

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#278 Cry0Tek
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[QUOTE="xTHExJUICEx"]

Having stupid AI and repetitive gameplay still has me unconvinced, I guess ill just rent it.

Hadoken_Kid

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LMAO, so so true.:lol:

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#279 Adrian_Cloud
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:lol: This game is getting mixed reviews around the internet. Most around 8.5. Looks like GS bought into the hype and got it wrong again. People are complaining about what console it looks better on? Either one you get it you'll be disappointed.

Another good '07 rental.

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#280 CyanX73
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Think I'll rent it first. IGN stated the PS3's frame rate was really bad after the first 2/3 of the game.
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#281 0rin
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Actually, I find the GS review to be quite fair this time. If you look at Kevin's other reviews, he tends to under-rate games. He gave Personae 3 for the PS2 an 8.5. Overall though, he seems to rate games pretty fairly. He seems to be one of GS's better writer/reviewers. It's funny how the same people I saw sticking up for that hack Aaron Thomas, are now bashing Kevin's review. lol. I think its because he said both versions are nearly identical? LOL @ lemmings not being able to accept that the PS3 is capable of doing everything the 360 does.

Oh well, at first today, I was worried of whether or not to pick this game up, but after reading the GS review, and watching the GT review, as well as reading the IGN review, I think the game will be fine. It seems IGN docked it a little too heavily for certain issues, which is odd, because usually IGN is pretty accurate.

Either way, as all the lemmings say whenever a PS3 game flops "Only GS scores matter in System Wars". As such, same goes for their words. PS3 version has a little better framerate, 360 version has a little better contrast. Both versions are very simular, therefore the only ownage here is to the sheep that say "BU BU BU.. TEH INNOVASHUN :cry:"

:P (j/k sheep, enjoy your DS version :lol: )
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#282 Hadoken_Kid
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[QUOTE="Hadoken_Kid"][QUOTE="xTHExJUICEx"]

Having stupid AI and repetitive gameplay still has me unconvinced, I guess ill just rent it.

Kratos_OMEGA

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Kind of ironic but GoW is amazing nonethelss and AC is as well.

I agree

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#283 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

It is exactly what happend with HS, but if you want the more reliable source, go with GS, they just copy paste what I did say in my posts lol, seriously though, GS is right with the score, I loved every word in their review also.

Cry0Tek

I won't mention the length of that game, which was its downfall, but the art was beautiful.

It is a long game, what's up with that?

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#284 123Dan123
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I trust GameSpot on this one. KevinV is a really good reviewer.
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#285 TyrantDragon55
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[QUOTE="xTHExJUICEx"]

Having stupid AI and repetitive gameplay still has me unconvinced, I guess ill just rent it.

ultima-flare

I don't think the AI is as bad as some are making it out to be. Supposedly, when you first enter an area, the soldiers aren't suspicious of you and you can get away with a lot of things(hence that scene in the GT review where Altair kills the guard and the other guard looks suspiciously at him but doesn't attack him). Repition might be a problem, but hey, no game is perfect.

The guard was standing right there when Altair killed the guy! You're telling me if you and your buddy where on guard somewhere and you heard him cry in pain and then turn around and see some guy standing over his dead body you wouldn't put 2 and 2 together?

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#286 Ericvon71
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Both say the 360 version looks better.Ilived

You should really stop posting..........

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#287 blahzor
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what the?! IGN specifically notes that the PS3 version has a worse framerate that is very noticable later on in the game, yet gamespot says otherwise(in fact stating that the 360 version is the lesser).. then there's the issue of the story.

What's going on? There are some huge contradictions here.. and some that are not just "opinion" based.

I might give assassin's creed a shot sometime in december after my exams, but i'm no longer going to buy it first.. i need to see what i make of these issues. But if anyone has any experience here, please let us know

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#288 kozzy1234
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OVERRATED, ive played the game at my friends and i foudn it to be very repetative with a terrible story. Sure the graphics, sound and exploring is nice, but its not worth a 9.0 imo
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#289 alia999
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i think really the difference in opinioni comes in this aspect: whether to overlook the flaws that ARE THERE, seeing the bright side and reckognising the innovative and very fun system.

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#290 Cry0Tek
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[QUOTE="Cry0Tek"][QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

It is exactly what happend with HS, but if you want the more reliable source, go with GS, they just copy paste what I did say in my posts lol, seriously though, GS is right with the score, I loved every word in their review also.

HAZE-Unit

I won't mention the length of that game, which was its downfall, but the art was beautiful.

It is a long game, what's up with that?

...:|...your serious?

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#291 meme378
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lol at ds version.I agree with your points- ign was too harsh. 360 and ps3 owners should all just enjoy their games.

the differences between the ps3 and xbox 360 version are obviously quite minimal because ign and gs contradict each other as they can hardly tell the difference.

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#292 Forza_2
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Well... at least they set the standard for animations ! That counts for something.
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#293 ps3weee
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Bah crap , I was looking forward to this one, what a bad day ... what convinced me not to buy this game is the AI , it looks so fu**ing stupid when you go in that "stelthmode " after you kill a guard and the other guard can't figure outit was you. also the combat where every guard " eats popcorn and gets free entertainment " while you kill the other guads , man what a flopp. Hope MASS EFFECT live upp to the hype.I think Mario Galaxymight get the GOTYaward.
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#294 HAZE-Unit
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Having stupid AI and repetitive gameplay still has me unconvinced, I guess ill just rent it.

xTHExJUICEx

The AI is tough actually, I've died alot of times, some times it is better to run than fighting, this is the only game That make me run instead of fighting lol, so don't be dissapointed.

As for repetitive, I think everygame when your hands get used to it would be repetitive even if it has ALOT OF VARIETY in the gameplay which AC has it.

Let me ask you a question, do you like GTA? do you love ignoring the missions and just shoot people and escape from the police, or only exploring the cities, AC is exactly like that in a different way, in a different time line, with more living environment, the people's reactions are so real, you will laugh at some comments from them, let me tell you this, any one who likes GTA, will love this game, guaranteed.

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#295 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="xTHExJUICEx"]

Having stupid AI and repetitive gameplay still has me unconvinced, I guess ill just rent it.

HAZE-Unit

The AI is tough actually, I've died alot of times, some times it is better to run than fighting, this is the only game That make me run instead of fighting lol, so don't be dissapointed.

As for repetitive, I think everygame when your hands get used to it would be repetitive even if it has ALOT OF VARIETY in the gameplay which AC has it.

Let me ask you a question, do you like GTA? do you love ignoring the missions and just shoot people and escape from the police, or only exploring the cities, AC is exactly like that in a different way, in a different time line, with more living environment, the people's reactions are so real, you will laugh at some comments from them, let me tell you this, any one who likes GTA, will love this game, guaranteed.

When I played an early build all you had to do was run away for a bit, circle round and then kill whomever had been chasing you. That was part of my gripe with the AI, has that changed?
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#296 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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I love how some cows are now bashing IGN and praising GS :)
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#297 leegar88
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Wow I hope you all still enjoy the game, I was shocked by the reviews.
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#298 leegar88
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I love how some cows are now bashing IGN and praising GS :)blue_hazy_basic

Yeah the shallowness of SW never stops amazing me.

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#299 skyform
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Hahaha, i can't do anythig other then just laugh at GS, they are so strange, they have very taste, first PDZ now AC.

Sorry guys but this game does not deserve a 9/10. I was waiting for this game burt im a bi dissapointed. I alreaady finished it, it's a great game with great controls and a very good idea, but it's it's so damn repetive that i was forcing my self to finish it just because of the story and to see the ending and what then, the ending is confusing as gs said and also bad.

I already said yesterday that i would give it a7.8/10, before there where any reviews but i also said that i could easily be a 9/10 or even more with more variations, go play the game is you don't belive me but this game is amazing repevie.

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#300 ironcreed
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Having stupid AI and repetitive gameplay still has me unconvinced, I guess ill just rent it.

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The AI is tough actually, I've died alot of times, some times it is better to run than fighting, this is the only game That make me run instead of fighting lol, so don't be dissapointed.

As for repetitive, I think everygame when your hands get used to it would be repetitive even if it has ALOT OF VARIETY in the gameplay which AC has it.

Let me ask you a question, do you like GTA? do you love ignoring the missions and just shoot people and escape from the police, or only exploring the cities, AC is exactly like that in a different way, in a different time line, with more living environment, the people's reactions are so real, you will laugh at some comments from them, let me tell you this, any one who likes GTA, will love this game, guaranteed.

Good point. I believe you.