MS new "apple'esque" commercial

Kinect is great. Haters gonna Hate.

hmm, believe ps3 guys about kinect or believe doctors.

"Is a $100,000 system being outsmarted by a $150 toy?" he asked. "Indeed this is the case." He also referred to its usage as a "tremendous step forwards."

"Something we can do three years down the line, we can do it today because of technology that was destined for the gaming industry," he said. "I don't think Microsoft has realized that [Kinect] is something that could change medicine."

http://www.1up.com/news/kinect-medical-research

it may be lame for games but :lol:

I would not trust my doctor to perform surgery with kinect.

I would not trust the bomb squad to disarm a bomb with kinect.

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]

[QUOTE="Peredith"]

Reality:

Peredith

Dr. Calvin Law demonstrates the use of the Microsoft Xbox Kinect, during a simulated procedure, to control and scroll through CT images during surgery.Doug Nicholson/MediaSource

Funny how much energy the Sony fans spend trying to discredit somethingt they will never play anyways.

I thought this was a gaming forum, not a hospital forum. :? The PS3 can be linked up to form a super computer, it still renders games at subhd.

now they want to be like apple. a bunch of pretentious, overindulgent, egomaniacs who believe that their mediocre technology is somehow the most revolutionary thing to grace the human race since the printing press.

what is all this nonsense with voice commands, playing an an invisible violin, and controlling a robot arm? is this really what gamers have been asking for? is this what microsoft thinks the xbox360 is about? wasnt the xbox360 a game console at some point? i kinda miss those days.

Awesome commercial, MS are marketing geniuses. Too bad I like the commercial way more than I like Kinect.

Austindro

And I can't honestly believe people are defending the Kinect....The thought of the product was good but from a gaming and execution standpoint it was a complete failure.

[QUOTE="Peredith"]

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]or

Dr. Calvin Law demonstrates the use of the Microsoft Xbox Kinect, during a simulated procedure, to control and scroll through CT images during surgery.Doug Nicholson/MediaSource

Funny how much energy the Sony fans spend trying to discredit somethingt they will never play anyways.

Riverwolf007

I thought this was a gaming forum, not a hospital forum. :? The PS3 can be linked up to form a super computer, it still renders games at subhd.

You can if you use a custom firmware or if you don't upgrade your firmware.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="Peredith"]

If only Kinect was like that in reality :lol:

Peredith

Xbox 360 gamers are doctors now? :lol:

*facepalms*

because kinect can only be used on the xbox?

[QUOTE="Peredith"]

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]or

Dr. Calvin Law demonstrates the use of the Microsoft Xbox Kinect, during a simulated procedure, to control and scroll through CT images during surgery.Doug Nicholson/MediaSource

Funny how much energy the Sony fans spend trying to discredit somethingt they will never play anyways.

Riverwolf007

I thought this was a gaming forum, not a hospital forum. :? The PS3 can be linked up to form a super computer, it still renders games at subhd.

If you updated the firmware

I couldn't help but think of this picture when I saw that ad.

Lol at people still falling for tech demos. Defusing a bomb with Kinect LMAO! Milo says hi ;)kuraimen

[QUOTE="Austindro"]

Awesome commercial, MS are marketing geniuses. Too bad I like the commercial way more than I like Kinect.

mexicangordo

And I can't honestly believe people are defending the Kinect....The thought of the product was good but from a gaming and execution standpoint it was a complete failure.

gawd! look at the big picture you guys! it's got games we are not interested in!!!! :lol:

"Is a $100,000 system being outsmarted by a $150 toy?" he asked. "Indeed this is the case." He also referred to its usage as a "tremendous step forwards."

"Something we can do three years down the line, we can do it today because of technology that was destined for the gaming industry," he said. "I don't think Microsoft has realized that [Kinect] is something that could change medicine."

http://www.1up.com/news/kinect-medical-research

does anyone here actually believe that the kinect is going to catch on in the medical industry as a standard device, that it will revolutionize robotics, or that it will be a suitable replacement for actual musical instruments?

are people really buying into thispropaganda that much? have people really drank that much of the kool aid?

does anyone here actually believe that the kinect is going to catch on in the medical industry as a standard device, that it will revolutionize robotics, or that it will be a suitable replacement for actual musical instruments.

arbitor365

does anyone here actually believe that the kinect is going to catch on in the medical industry as a standard device, that it will revolutionize robotics, or that it will be a suitable replacement for actual musical instruments.

arbitor365

so your argument is: never try to improve something?

I couldn't help but think of this picture when I saw that ad.

GD1551

LOL. Imagine that for surgery.

Doc: "Kinect, make a 3 mm incision"

Kinect: "Removing heart"

Doc: "ljds#"$"#534@3#$%%&isdhfih"

I couldn't help but think of this picture when I saw that ad.

GD1551

Oh man! :lol:

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Lol at people still falling for tech demos. Defusing a bomb with Kinect LMAO! Milo says hi ;)ohthemanatee

does anyone here actually believe that the kinect is going to catch on in the medical industry as a standard device, that it will revolutionize robotics, or that it will be a suitable replacement for actual musical instruments?

are people really buying into thispropaganda that much? have people really drank that much of the kool aid?

arbitor365

seriously though, don't feel so bad, it's just technology maybe nothing will ever come of it but then again they way things have gone in the past maybe a version of it will be integrated into all kinds of things in the future.

you can never really know.

does anyone here actually believe that the kinect is going to catch on in the medical industry as a standard device, that it will revolutionize robotics, or that it will be a suitable replacement for actual musical instruments?

are people really buying into thispropaganda that much? have people really drank that much of the kool aid?

arbitor365

Nice ad. My experience with Kinect has been alright, when I made adjustments in the living room it's been great, but you need alot of damn space.

It is very apple-esque, and is that Nolan North talking?

after looking up some more on this i found live (xbl? lol) surgeries are already being performed with kinect.

"Surgeons at Sunnybrook hospital are employing video-game technology to scroll through medical images during operations, using nothing more than hand gestures resembling tai chi.

An engineering team used a Microsoft Xbox Kinect, a hands-free gaming console, to allow doctors to quickly access MRIs and CT scans without leaving the sterile field around the patient.

"What this was able to do is take away that last barrier and remove the mouse, remove the interface . . . and now I just give it hand signs," said Dr. Calvin Law, a surgical oncologist. "We're able to control the computer without actually touching anything."

http://www.healthzone.ca/health/newsfeatures/article/960393--video-game-technology-tried-in-operating-room?bn=1

after looking up some more on this i found live (xbl? lol) surgeries are already being performed with kinect.

"Surgeons at Sunnybrook hospital are employing video-game technology to scroll through medical images during operations, using nothing more than hand gestures resembling tai chi.

An engineering team used a Microsoft Xbox Kinect, a hands-free gaming console, to allow doctors to quickly access MRIs and CT scans without leaving the sterile field around the patient.

"What this was able to do is take away that last barrier and remove the mouse, remove the interface . . . and now I just give it hand signs," said Dr. Calvin Law, a surgical oncologist. "We're able to control the computer without actually touching anything."

http://www.healthzone.ca/health/newsfeatures/article/960393--video-game-technology-tried-in-operating-room?bn=1

Riverwolf007

I wouldn't trust kinect with any sort of precision work. Maybe once the technology advances and becomes more accurate I would be ok with it but as it is now I would sue if my doctor tried to perform surgery using that thing.Moriarity_

after looking up some more on this i found live (xbl? lol) surgeries are already being performed with kinect.

"Surgeons at Sunnybrook hospital are employing video-game technology to scroll through medical images during operations, using nothing more than hand gestures resembling tai chi.

An engineering team used a Microsoft Xbox Kinect, a hands-free gaming console, to allow doctors to quickly access MRIs and CT scans without leaving the sterile field around the patient.

"What this was able to do is take away that last barrier and remove the mouse, remove the interface . . . and now I just give it hand signs," said Dr. Calvin Law, a surgical oncologist. "We're able to control the computer without actually touching anything."

http://www.healthzone.ca/health/newsfeatures/article/960393--video-game-technology-tried-in-operating-room?bn=1

Riverwolf007

The surgery isn't performed using kinect. Scrolling through the MRIs and CT scans is though.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

after looking up some more on this i found live (xbl? lol) surgeries are already being performed with kinect.

"Surgeons at Sunnybrook hospital are employing video-game technology to scroll through medical images during operations, using nothing more than hand gestures resembling tai chi.

An engineering team used a Microsoft Xbox Kinect, a hands-free gaming console, to allow doctors to quickly access MRIs and CT scans without leaving the sterile field around the patient.

"What this was able to do is take away that last barrier and remove the mouse, remove the interface . . . and now I just give it hand signs," said Dr. Calvin Law, a surgical oncologist. "We're able to control the computer without actually touching anything."

http://www.healthzone.ca/health/newsfeatures/article/960393--video-game-technology-tried-in-operating-room?bn=1

kuraimen

it would allow hands free page turning and give the hospital a friendly clowny type of vibe.

anyway yes there are onter workarounds for this type of stuff but what they are actually using during live surgey is kinect.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

after looking up some more on this i found live (xbl? lol) surgeries are already being performed with kinect.

"Surgeons at Sunnybrook hospital are employing video-game technology to scroll through medical images during operations, using nothing more than hand gestures resembling tai chi.

An engineering team used a Microsoft Xbox Kinect, a hands-free gaming console, to allow doctors to quickly access MRIs and CT scans without leaving the sterile field around the patient.

"What this was able to do is take away that last barrier and remove the mouse, remove the interface . . . and now I just give it hand signs," said Dr. Calvin Law, a surgical oncologist. "We're able to control the computer without actually touching anything."

http://www.healthzone.ca/health/newsfeatures/article/960393--video-game-technology-tried-in-operating-room?bn=1

kuraimen

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

after looking up some more on this i found live (xbl? lol) surgeries are already being performed with kinect.

"Surgeons at Sunnybrook hospital are employing video-game technology to scroll through medical images during operations, using nothing more than hand gestures resembling tai chi.

An engineering team used a Microsoft Xbox Kinect, a hands-free gaming console, to allow doctors to quickly access MRIs and CT scans without leaving the sterile field around the patient.

"What this was able to do is take away that last barrier and remove the mouse, remove the interface . . . and now I just give it hand signs," said Dr. Calvin Law, a surgical oncologist. "We're able to control the computer without actually touching anything."

http://www.healthzone.ca/health/newsfeatures/article/960393--video-game-technology-tried-in-operating-room?bn=1

GD1551

The surgery isn't performed using kinect. Scrolling through the MRIs and CT scans is though.

in sw tools you use to complete a surgery do not count?

kinda like games we don't like?

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

after looking up some more on this i found live (xbl? lol) surgeries are already being performed with kinect.

"Surgeons at Sunnybrook hospital are employing video-game technology to scroll through medical images during operations, using nothing more than hand gestures resembling tai chi.

An engineering team used a Microsoft Xbox Kinect, a hands-free gaming console, to allow doctors to quickly access MRIs and CT scans without leaving the sterile field around the patient.

"What this was able to do is take away that last barrier and remove the mouse, remove the interface . . . and now I just give it hand signs," said Dr. Calvin Law, a surgical oncologist. "We're able to control the computer without actually touching anything."

http://www.healthzone.ca/health/newsfeatures/article/960393--video-game-technology-tried-in-operating-room?bn=1

ForzaGearsFace

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

after looking up some more on this i found live (xbl? lol) surgeries are already being performed with kinect.

"Surgeons at Sunnybrook hospital are employing video-game technology to scroll through medical images during operations, using nothing more than hand gestures resembling tai chi.

An engineering team used a Microsoft Xbox Kinect, a hands-free gaming console, to allow doctors to quickly access MRIs and CT scans without leaving the sterile field around the patient.

"What this was able to do is take away that last barrier and remove the mouse, remove the interface . . . and now I just give it hand signs," said Dr. Calvin Law, a surgical oncologist. "We're able to control the computer without actually touching anything."

http://www.healthzone.ca/health/newsfeatures/article/960393--video-game-technology-tried-in-operating-room?bn=1

Riverwolf007

The surgery isn't performed using kinect. Scrolling through the MRIs and CT scans is though.

But can it be used to navigate a 3D environment without being on-rails?

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]Lol at people still falling for tech demos. Defusing a bomb with Kinect LMAO! Milo says hi ;)kuraimen

actually the tech was used for kinectimals

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

The surgery isn't performed using kinect. Scrolling through the MRIs and CT scans is though.

kuraimen

what did you think they were doing it with Kinect? using is a scalpel?

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

The surgery isn't performed using kinect. Scrolling through the MRIs and CT scans is though.

kuraimen

did the xray or mri not help complete the surgery?

tools you use during a surgery don't count unless they get blood on them?

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"] so following your logic: if a Ps3 game is canceled then the PS3 has no games? seriously what does Milo have to do with whathever applications the military is using kinect for?ohthemanatee

actually the tech was used for kinectimals

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] The promises behind Milo were similar to this. According to MS Milo could detect and understand natural speech, detect objects and interact with them, etc. Of course that was all BS, the tech Milo used has been available since well before Kinect. That's why it was scraped, it didn't live up to the ridiculous promises and it didn't do much new.kuraimen

actually the tech was used for kinectimals

actually yes, the kinectimals do understand basic words and commands act accordingly

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]yah i kinda got that from the part in the story where they say "Surgeons at Sunnybrook hospital are employing video-game technology to scroll through medical images during operations, using nothing more than hand gestures resembling tai chi.

ohthemanatee

what did you think they were doing it with Kinect? using is a scalpel?

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

actually the tech was used for kinectimals

ohthemanatee

actually yes, the kinectimals do understand basic words and commands act accordingly

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]yah i kinda got that from the part in the story where they say "Surgeons at Sunnybrook hospital are employing video-game technology to scroll through medical images during operations, using nothing more than hand gestures resembling tai chi.

ohthemanatee

what did you think they were doing it with Kinect? using is a scalpel?

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Then why did you say that sugeries are being performed using Kinect?? :|kuraimen

what did you think they were doing it with Kinect? using is a scalpel?

so in other words you're angry because you misinterpreted a post and you're angry because the kinect can be useful in difusing bombs?

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

actually the tech was used for kinectimals

ohthemanatee

actually yes, the kinectimals do understand basic words and commands act accordingly

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Oh really can the Kinectimals understand what I say to them in natural language? Well that must be the most incredible breakthrough in science since Einstein's relativity theory or something since they just solved all the problematics of mechanizing sintax, semantics and pragmatics of the natural language in a kids game. Pretty impressive.ForzaGearsFace

actually yes, the kinectimals do understand basic words and commands act accordingly

well that goes without saying

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

what did you think they were doing it with Kinect? using is a scalpel?

ohthemanatee

so in other words you're angry because you misinterpreted a post and you're angry because the kinect can be useful in difusing bombs?

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Oh really can the Kinectimals understand what I say to them in natural language? Well that must be the most incredible breakthrough in science since Einstein's relativity theory or something since they just solved all the problematics of mechanizing sintax, semantics and pragmatics of the natural language in a kids game. Pretty impressive.kuraimen

actually yes, the kinectimals do understand basic words and commands act accordingly

and playing videogames has been done by consoles since the 70's why do we need a PS3 again?

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

actually yes, the kinectimals do understand basic words and commands act accordingly

ohthemanatee

and playing videogames has been done by consoles since the 70's why do we need a PS3 again?

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

what did you think they were doing it with Kinect? using is a scalpel?

ohthemanatee

so in other words you're angry because you misinterpreted a post and you're angry because the kinect can be useful in difusing bombs?