MGS4 has 90 minute cutscenes!!!

[QUOTE="vicmackey39"]

i'm not watching a 90 minute cutscene with as much nuance as an episode of power rangers

pass

3verlastingHero

Of course. I just hope they have a pause button just in case I have to do somthing during the video.PS2_ROCKS

"The good news is that you can now skip or pause the scenes. "

UPDATE: From a Gamepro writer:

"I've beat the game twice, and am the author of the forthcoming [GamePro] review," Shuman said. "Ninety-minute-long cinemas in MGS4 sounds like an exaggeration. Like the other MGS games, MGS4 definitely has a cinematic quality. And yes, some of the cut-scenes in the game are elaborate and occasionally lengthy. But not a one, to my recollection, even approaches 90 minutes.

"I think it's safe to say that the '90 minutes cinemas' claim is a pretty big exaggeration," he told GamePro News.

So, there you have it.

well this is some interesting news. http://www.dailygamesnews.com/

now if this game did have 90 minute cut-scenes I doubt there would be more then one, and it would most likely be at the end of the game.

-edit- damn someone beat me to it

So, there you have it.

dewmandew7

one person says something, while another says the opposite. who can you trust?

ttp over at neogaf who has played it said there is no 90 minute cutscene, the longest is the ending @ 30 min.

much better.

and lol @ the Cows willing to defend the idea of a 90 minute cutscene. just dumb.

ttp over at neogaf who has played it said there is no 90 minute cutscene, the longest is the ending @ 30 min.

much better.

and lol @ the Cows willing to defend the idea of a 90 minute cutscene. just dumb.

Dreams-Visions

well this is some interesting news. http://www.dailygamesnews.com/

now if this game did have 90 minute cut-scenes I doubt there would be more then one, and it would most likely be at the end of the game.

-edit- damn someone beat me to it

shadow32gamer

Id rather have the 90 min one

sue me

I dont care if it was 3 hrs long, no way would i skip a MGS cutscene. They are so good and add so much to the story that i dont even mind at all.II_Seraphim_II

damn straight :D

"I think it's safe to say that the '90 minutes cinemas' claim is a pretty big exaggeration," he told GamePro News.

So, there you have it.

dewmandew7

You can most certainly tell the difference of time. There was a reason why I was skeptical of this in the first place and quite frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case. 90 minutes for more than one cutscene is just very long. I can throw myself on the hype train just as well as any other, but when you trully stop to think about those 90 minutes...

Guess this is a wait and see situation. But I'm more inclined to go with this source.

[QUOTE="shadow32gamer"]

well this is some interesting news. http://www.dailygamesnews.com/

now if this game did have 90 minute cut-scenes I doubt there would be more then one, and it would most likely be at the end of the game.

-edit- damn someone beat me to it

hayato_

Id rather have the 90 min one

sue me

nothing wrong with that, but I think haveing more then one would be pushing it.

[QUOTE="shadow32gamer"]

well this is some interesting news. http://www.dailygamesnews.com/

now if this game did have 90 minute cut-scenes I doubt there would be more then one, and it would most likely be at the end of the game.

-edit- damn someone beat me to it

hayato_

Id rather have the 90 min one

sue me

absolutely fail. There is no logical reason why a gamer would want a 90-minute, non-interactive cut-scene in the middle of a videogame.

that's just inexcusably ridiculous. and I'm glad Konami knows better than that. Even if you don't.

ttp over at neogaf who has played it said there is no 90 minute cutscene, the longest is the ending @ 30 min.

much better.

and lol @ the Cows willing to defend the idea of a 90 minute cutscene. just dumb.

Dreams-Visions

ha yeah, I could understand if its really is a movie, you could defend it, but its not, its a game, 90 minutes is way over board even for MGS4. But 30 minutes? That's like a tv show.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

ttp over at neogaf who has played it said there is no 90 minute cutscene, the longest is the ending @ 30 min.

much better.

and lol @ the Cows willing to defend the idea of a 90 minute cutscene. just dumb.

aka_aj03

[QUOTE="vicmackey39"]

i'm not watching a 90 minute cutscene with as much nuance as an episode of power rangers

pass

3verlastingHero

2-3 mins a cutscene, over 30 cutscenesperfect_chao

There are, according to reports, about 10 hours of cutscenes. the last one being approx. 30 minutes.

But I can't believe people were willing to defend the idea of a 90 minute cutscene. It's amazing the lengths fanboys will go to sometimes.

to me, mgs has always been an awesome movie, with annoying gameplay sequences in between

id rather watch a good movie, 90 minutes of crazy MGS'ing? no thanks

[QUOTE="hayato_"][QUOTE="shadow32gamer"]

well this is some interesting news. http://www.dailygamesnews.com/

now if this game did have 90 minute cut-scenes I doubt there would be more then one, and it would most likely be at the end of the game.

-edit- damn someone beat me to it

Dreams-Visions

Id rather have the 90 min one

sue me

absolutely fail. There is no logical reason why a gamer would want a 90-minute, non-interactive cut-scene in the middle of a videogame.

that's just inexcusably ridiculous. and I'm glad Konami knows better than that. Even if you don't.

calm down, jesus. if he wants a long epilogue to satisfy him after playing solid snakes final story then let him. wow opinions mean jack nowadays...

to much cutscenes for me too get in the game ! problem is you dont Skip them course they are good but doesn't help too keep the gemeplay fluid. movie or game not both in 1

I will watch it...but I have to be honest here...90 minutes is far to long....

if you are gonna hve 90 minute cutscenes, than there really no reason not to just make it into a movie or miniseries instead,

[QUOTE="perfect_chao"]2-3 mins a cutscene, over 30 cutscenesDreams-Visions

There are, according to reports, about 10 hours of cutscenes. the last one being approx. 30 minutes.

But I can't believe people were willing to defend the idea of a 90 minute cutscene. It's amazing the lengths fanboys will go to sometimes.

Defend? Did you read the part where he says...

"They can be skipped, but you'll be missing out on some of the finely crafted examples of FMV footage anywhere in gaming,"

Im being totally sincere when I say I cant wait for MGS4 and its cutscenes...THIS IS IT, the final chapter :cry: I cant wait any longer.

And I got told to be quiet (nice way of putting it) when I said Movie Gear Solid 4...

One 90 minute cutscene is the length of a movie cows. Deny it all you want.

can someone tell me wat part of mgs2 had a 45 min long cutscene??jujutheking

[QUOTE="hayato_"][QUOTE="shadow32gamer"]

well this is some interesting news. http://www.dailygamesnews.com/

now if this game did have 90 minute cut-scenes I doubt there would be more then one, and it would most likely be at the end of the game.

-edit- damn someone beat me to it

Dreams-Visions

Id rather have the 90 min one

sue me

absolutely fail. There is no logical reason why a gamer would want a 90-minute, non-interactive cut-scene in the middle of a videogame.

that's just inexcusably ridiculous. and I'm glad Konami knows better than that. Even if you don't.

Absolutely fail. Who the hell do you think you are to dictate what a "gamer" should and should not enjoy? I for one, am no cow. I do not own a PS3, and never owned any playstation console for that matter. But I would enjoy a 90 minute cutscene. You don't like it? I don't care, go play whatever game satisfies you. But don't tell me that I can't enjoy it.

[QUOTE="st1ka"]i dont have a PS3 so... dont careCR00K

This poll is going to be inaccurate because the people who aren't going to play it will say no. But anyways, yes, I will watch it all.

i didnt vote because there was no "i dont own a PS3 answer"

Absolutely fail. Who the hell do you think you are

organic_machine

Dreams-Visions. That's who I am. Remember it.

And no, a 90-minute cutscene undermines GAMING. That's why it was a stupid idea. That's why Kojima never did it. That's why it should be a non-issue to anyone but Cows who tried to defend the idea but are now faced with the prospect of either back-tracking (self-ownage) or maintaining this same ridiculous argument that an hour and a half cutscene placed in the middle of what is billed as an interactive product isn't a bad thing.

Do your thing, Cow. It's a free country. You are also free to claim that the sky is a beautiful shade of forest green with purple rhinestone highlights. But don't be upset with me when I tell you you're wrong. Same goes for any other fanboy who would suggest the forwarding of ideas the undermine the nature of GAMING.

Enjoy your day, good sir.

[QUOTE="organic_machine"]

Absolutely fail. Who the hell do you think you are

Dreams-Visions

Dreams-Visions. That's who I am. Remember it.

And no, a 90-minute cutscene undermines GAMING. That's why it was a stupid idea. That's why Kojima never did it. That's why it should be a non-issue to anyone but Cows who tried to defend the idea but are now faced with the prospect of either back-tracking (self-ownage) or maintaining this same ridiculous argument that an hour and a half cutscene placed in the middle of what is billed as an interactive product isn't a bad thing.

Do your thing, Cow. It's a free country. You are also free to claim that the sky is a beautiful shade of forest green with purple rhinestone highlights. But don't be upset with me when I tell you you're wrong. Same goes for any other fanboy who would suggest the forwarding of ideas the undermine the nature of GAMING.

Enjoy your day, good sir.

if people enjoy watching a 90minute cutscene for the ending, let them. kojima is not that stupid that he would put it half way through the game.

[QUOTE="jujutheking"]can someone tell me wat part of mgs2 had a 45 min long cutscene??Dreams-Visions

30 mins.LOL more like 10 mins. hre it is and i didn't include the credits. http://youtube.com/watch?v=PV-eyhWKFGI&feature=related youtube people youtube.

Dreams-Visions. That's who I am. Remember it.

And no, a 90-minute cutscene undermines GAMING. That's why it was a stupid idea. That's why Kojima never did it. That's why it should be a non-issue to anyone but Cows who tried to defend the idea but are now faced with the prospect of either back-tracking (self-ownage) or maintaining this same ridiculous argument that an hour and a half cutscene placed in the middle of what is billed as an interactive product isn't a bad thing.

Do your thing, Cow. It's a free country. You are also free to claim that the sky is a beautiful shade of forest green with purple rhinestone highlights. But don't be upset with me when I tell you you're wrong. Same goes for any other fanboy who would suggest the forwarding of ideas the undermine the nature of GAMING.

Enjoy your day, good sir.

Dreams-Visions

Well then, D-V, I am Organic_Machine. I am no cow. I've never owned a PS console in my life. Remember it. Also remember, that you have an opinion. You say it gets in the way of gaming. Others say it enhances gaming.

Why do you play games? Entertainment. As long as you're entertained, it's fine. The same goes here. If a game offers me a 4 hour cutscene, and it is insanely entertaining, do I give a ****? No. You can keep your shallow definitions of what constitues a game. See if I care. I am open to new experiences, and you appear to be shallow.

And, I am open to exploring your viewpoint more in this discussion, good sir. But, if you're going to be ignorant, then you'll only make a fool of yourslef.

Good day, kind sir.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="organic_machine"]

Absolutely fail. Who the hell do you think you are

Arjdagr8

Dreams-Visions. That's who I am. Remember it.

And no, a 90-minute cutscene undermines GAMING. That's why it was a stupid idea. That's why Kojima never did it. That's why it should be a non-issue to anyone but Cows who tried to defend the idea but are now faced with the prospect of either back-tracking (self-ownage) or maintaining this same ridiculous argument that an hour and a half cutscene placed in the middle of what is billed as an interactive product isn't a bad thing.

Do your thing, Cow. It's a free country. You are also free to claim that the sky is a beautiful shade of forest green with purple rhinestone highlights. But don't be upset with me when I tell you you're wrong. Same goes for any other fanboy who would suggest the forwarding of ideas the undermine the nature of GAMING.

Enjoy your day, good sir.

if people enjoy watching a 90minute cutscene for the ending, let them. kojima is not that stupid that he would put it half way through the game.

Intresting, Ill be looking to see if this is true or not...

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="jujutheking"]can someone tell me wat part of mgs2 had a 45 min long cutscene??jujutheking

30 mins.LOL more like 10 mins. hre it is and i didn't include the credits. http://youtube.com/watch?v=PV-eyhWKFGI&feature=related youtube people youtube.

[QUOTE="Arjdagr8"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="organic_machine"]

Absolutely fail. Who the hell do you think you are

Dreams-Visions

Dreams-Visions. That's who I am. Remember it.

And no, a 90-minute cutscene undermines GAMING. That's why it was a stupid idea. That's why Kojima never did it. That's why it should be a non-issue to anyone but Cows who tried to defend the idea but are now faced with the prospect of either back-tracking (self-ownage) or maintaining this same ridiculous argument that an hour and a half cutscene placed in the middle of what is billed as an interactive product isn't a bad thing.

Do your thing, Cow. It's a free country. You are also free to claim that the sky is a beautiful shade of forest green with purple rhinestone highlights. But don't be upset with me when I tell you you're wrong. Same goes for any other fanboy who would suggest the forwarding of ideas the undermine the nature of GAMING.

Enjoy your day, good sir.

if people enjoy watching a 90minute cutscene for the ending, let them. kojima is not that stupid that he would put it half way through the game.

i disagree. if the epilogue is amazing as reviews have said, i dont mind if its 90 minutes (that is a very long time like ive said before though). its the end of my favourite franchise (well the end of the main characters story), i want it to finish nicely.

That's not true...VanHelsingBoA64

I guess Dream Vision can stop crying now.

[QUOTE="jujutheking"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="jujutheking"]can someone tell me wat part of mgs2 had a 45 min long cutscene??Dreams-Visions

30 mins.LOL more like 10 mins. hre it is and i didn't include the credits. http://youtube.com/watch?v=PV-eyhWKFGI&feature=related youtube people youtube.

lol i amn not including no credits.thats like including the credits of xmen3 because u wanted to find out about prefessor X.The first time i played it i didn't know about the thing at the end.U just can't include that.the last cutscene was around 12-13 mins without credits.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

Dreams-Visions. That's who I am. Remember it.

And no, a 90-minute cutscene undermines GAMING. That's why it was a stupid idea. That's why Kojima never did it. That's why it should be a non-issue to anyone but Cows who tried to defend the idea but are now faced with the prospect of either back-tracking (self-ownage) or maintaining this same ridiculous argument that an hour and a half cutscene placed in the middle of what is billed as an interactive product isn't a bad thing.

Do your thing, Cow. It's a free country. You are also free to claim that the sky is a beautiful shade of forest green with purple rhinestone highlights. But don't be upset with me when I tell you you're wrong. Same goes for any other fanboy who would suggest the forwarding of ideas the undermine the nature of GAMING.

Enjoy your day, good sir.

organic_machine

Well then, D-V, I am Organic_Machine. I am no cow. I've never owned a PS console in my life. Remember it. Also remember, that you have an opinion. You say it gets in the way of gaming. Others say it enhances gaming.

Why do you play games? Entertainment. As long as you're entertained, it's fine. The same goes here. If a game offers me a 4 hour cutscene, and it is insanely entertaining, do I give a ****? No. You can keep your shallow definitions of what constitues a game. See if I care. I am open to new experiences, and you appear to be shallow.

And, I am open to exploring your viewpoint more in this discussion, good sir. But, if you're going to be ignorant, then you'll only make a fool of yourslef.

Good day, kind sir.

If you want a 90-minute cutscene (static, non-interactive experience), go watch a movie. That's all that is.

If you want an interactive experience (where you have control over the experience), go play a game.

Meshing of the 2 is fine to a degree and MGS games have done it right in the past. Now that his rumor has been ABJECTLY DISPELLED, we know that MGS will *continue* to do it right.

Why are there no 90-minute cutscenes in any game and will NEVER be? Because it undermines the integrity of gaming. Gaming's foundation is interactivity. When it's not interactive for extended periods of time, it's not reasonable to call it a game.

Period.

End of story.

Why you continue to suggest someone should want to sit through 90 minutes of non-stop cutscene is baffling to me. Nobody but the most extreme of MGS fanboys would do that. And NEWSFLASH: MGS4 must be sold to more than just MGS fanboys in order for it to be a commercial success.

So tell me where the flaw is in my final analysis. Do you honestly think 90-minute cutscenes are a logical or reasonable direction for games to go in? If so, then what is your rationale for us not ever having a 90-minute cutscene. And what is your explanation for this game not having one either?

Don't worry. I'll wait.