MGS4 has 90 minute cutscenes!!!

Ok so if 90% of the game is cutscenes and there are 90 minutes of cutscenes then that sounds REALLY REALLY bad. This game is gonna be REALLY short then.MadExponent

Ok so if 90% of the game is cutscenes and there are 90 minutes of cutscenes then that sounds REALLY REALLY bad. This game is gonna be REALLY short then.MadExponent

20 hours of gameplay confirmed you......................... silly boy

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how is it epic?by the amount of cutscenes to gameplay ratios?

3verlastingHero

EDIT: I beat Gears in like 4 hours, so 20 hours > 4 hours. :D

sure you did, and at least gears of war was a game not a game/movie in disguise but i guess ps3 owners are used to watching alot of movies

wow its desprete the way MGS fans act like this is a good thing. I wont be getting the game anymore...i will get MGO thoughPhoenix_Wright-

You're not buying a soon to be excellent game because of a 90 minute cutscene that you can skip? :|

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how is it epic?by the amount of cutscenes to gameplay ratios?

ParadiddleFill

EDIT: I beat Gears in like 4 hours, so 20 hours > 4 hours. :D

sure you did, and at least gears of war was a game not a game/movie in disguise but i guess ps3 owners are used to watching alot of movies

I play my PS3 every day and ive never once in my life watched a blu ray movie

[QUOTE="3verlastingHero"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="3verlastingHero"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

how is it epic?by the amount of cutscenes to gameplay ratios?

ParadiddleFill

EDIT: I beat Gears in like 4 hours, so 20 hours > 4 hours. :D

sure you did, and at least gears of war was a game not a game/movie in disguise but i guess ps3 owners are used to watching alot of movies

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wow its desprete the way MGS fans act like this is a good thing. I wont be getting the game anymore...i will get MGO thoughPhoenix_Wright-

[QUOTE="MadExponent"]Ok so if 90% of the game is cutscenes and there are 90 minutes of cutscenes then that sounds REALLY REALLY bad. This game is gonna be REALLY short then.3verlastingHero

10 hours of cutscenes is alot

[QUOTE="MadExponent"]Ok so if 90% of the game is cutscenes and there are 90 minutes of cutscenes then that sounds REALLY REALLY bad. This game is gonna be REALLY short then.therealmcc0y

20 hours of gameplay confirmed you......................... silly boy

20 hours confirmed? whenever they confirm how many hours a game takes, you can always finish it alot faster anyway.

i say 12-15 hours of gameplay. i also hope the guy who confirmed the length of gameplay wasnt the guy who reviewed HS in Play magazine, he said it took 20 hours to finish as well :lol:

[QUOTE="Phoenix_Wright-"]wow its desprete the way MGS fans act like this is a good thing. I wont be getting the game anymore...i will get MGO thoughorganic_machine

You're not buying a soon to be excellent game because of a 90 minute cutscene that you can skip? :|

if the 90 minute cutscene is at the end, why would you want to skip it :|

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="3verlastingHero"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="3verlastingHero"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

how is it epic?by the amount of cutscenes to gameplay ratios?

3verlastingHero

EDIT: I beat Gears in like 4 hours, so 20 hours > 4 hours. :D

sure you did, and at least gears of war was a game not a game/movie in disguise but i guess ps3 owners are used to watching alot of movies

yet what makes you think mgs4 is going to be 20 hours? if they said gears was 6-8 hours long

[QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

[QUOTE="MadExponent"]Ok so if 90% of the game is cutscenes and there are 90 minutes of cutscenes then that sounds REALLY REALLY bad. This game is gonna be REALLY short then.ogvampire

20 hours of gameplay confirmed you......................... silly boy

20 hours confirmed? whenever they confirm how many hours a game takes, you can always finish it alot faster anyway.

i say 12-15 hours of gameplay. i also hope the guy who confirmed the length of gameplay wasnt the guy who reviewed HS in Play magazine, he said it took 20 hours to finish as well :lol:

actually its the opposite for me, it always takes me longer than what the reviews say

Yes I will. I might take a pause for a bathroom break.

I've finally done it and ordered a 32" LCD 720p 16:9 JUST for this game, to replace my current 14" CRT 4:3 sub 420p TV which cuts all the corners off.

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[QUOTE="Phoenix_Wright-"]wow its desprete the way MGS fans act like this is a good thing. I wont be getting the game anymore...i will get MGO thoughogvampire

You're not buying a soon to be excellent game because of a 90 minute cutscene that you can skip? :|

if the 90 minute cutscene is at the end, why would you want to skip it :|

Are you directing that at me? Because what you're saying sounds like more of a jab at him.

[QUOTE="Phoenix_Wright-"]wow its desprete the way MGS fans act like this is a good thing. I wont be getting the game anymore...i will get MGO thoughorganic_machine

You're not buying a soon to be excellent game because of a 90 minute cutscene that you can skip? :|

OR do you mean im not buying soon to be exellent collection of cutscenes which will gameplay in the middle thats no as good as splinter cell

[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="organic_machine"]

[QUOTE="Phoenix_Wright-"]wow its desprete the way MGS fans act like this is a good thing. I wont be getting the game anymore...i will get MGO thoughorganic_machine

You're not buying a soon to be excellent game because of a 90 minute cutscene that you can skip? :|

if the 90 minute cutscene is at the end, why would you want to skip it :|

Are you directing that at me? Because what you're saying sounds like more of a jab at him.

you. you said that you can skip it. well what if the 90 minute cutscene is the last scene where you find out the ending, why would you want to skip it. (alot of assumptions here, hehe. but its a possibility)

[QUOTE="3verlastingHero"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="3verlastingHero"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="3verlastingHero"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

how is it epic?by the amount of cutscenes to gameplay ratios?

ParadiddleFill

EDIT: I beat Gears in like 4 hours, so 20 hours > 4 hours. :D

sure you did, and at least gears of war was a game not a game/movie in disguise but i guess ps3 owners are used to watching alot of movies

yet what makes you think mgs4 is going to be 20 hours? if they said gears was 6-8 hours long

[QUOTE="Phoenix_Wright-"]wow its desprete the way MGS fans act like this is a good thing. I wont be getting the game anymore...i will get MGO thoughJayPee89

i thought a beat was on the MGS4 disc

i'm not watching a 90 minute cutscene with as much nuance as an episode of power rangers

pass

[QUOTE="organic_machine"]

[QUOTE="Phoenix_Wright-"]wow its desprete the way MGS fans act like this is a good thing. I wont be getting the game anymore...i will get MGO thoughPhoenix_Wright-

You're not buying a soon to be excellent game because of a 90 minute cutscene that you can skip? :|

OR do you mean im not buying soon to be exellent collection of cutscenes which will gameplay in the middle thats no as good as splinter cell

2/3 gameplay and all cutscenes are skippable...

And the gameplay looks really awesome :D

http://metalgearsolid4.net/2008/05/13/the-first-10-minutes-of-mgs4.html Not much, but it looks pretty fluid. Can't wait for the later real levels, [spoiler] did you know the entire faction thing Kojima went on about only exists in the Middle East and disappears after that? He enjoys screwing with our minds, like Raiden... [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="3verlastingHero"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="3verlastingHero"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="3verlastingHero"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

how is it epic?by the amount of cutscenes to gameplay ratios?

ParadiddleFill

EDIT: I beat Gears in like 4 hours, so 20 hours > 4 hours. :D

sure you did, and at least gears of war was a game not a game/movie in disguise but i guess ps3 owners are used to watching alot of movies

yet what makes you think mgs4 is going to be 20 hours? if they said gears was 6-8 hours long

I thought someone reviewed the game and it turned out to be 29 hours until they finished it with an estimated 1/3 (I think it stated it was 9 hours) of it being cutscenes. That's about 20 hours of gameplay. I'm guessing this was also a speed playthrough not finding easter eggs and such.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

[QUOTE="MadExponent"]Ok so if 90% of the game is cutscenes and there are 90 minutes of cutscenes then that sounds REALLY REALLY bad. This game is gonna be REALLY short then.therealmcc0y

20 hours of gameplay confirmed you......................... silly boy

20 hours confirmed? whenever they confirm how many hours a game takes, you can always finish it alot faster anyway.

i say 12-15 hours of gameplay. i also hope the guy who confirmed the length of gameplay wasnt the guy who reviewed HS in Play magazine, he said it took 20 hours to finish as well :lol:

actually its the opposite for me, it always takes me longer than what the reviews say

i hope you realize anybody can artificially extend the length of the game by spending more time doing other things in the game. doesnt really make it a longer game, per se

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[QUOTE="Phoenix_Wright-"]wow its desprete the way MGS fans act like this is a good thing. I wont be getting the game anymore...i will get MGO thoughPhoenix_Wright-

You're not buying a soon to be excellent game because of a 90 minute cutscene that you can skip? :|

OR do you mean im not buying soon to be exellent collection of cutscenes which will gameplay in the middle thats no as good as splinter cell

You're just being a fanboy. You KNOW it has more gameplay than cutscenes. Many have already said this. You're just denying it. And, not as good as SC? They're different types of stealth games. :|

i'm not watching a 90 minute cutscene with as much nuance as an episode of power rangers

pass

vicmackey39

i'm not watching a 90 minute cutscene with as much nuance as an episode of power rangers

pass

vicmackey39

Umm.. just skip the cutscene then..

[QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="organic_machine"]

[QUOTE="Phoenix_Wright-"]wow its desprete the way MGS fans act like this is a good thing. I wont be getting the game anymore...i will get MGO thoughogvampire

You're not buying a soon to be excellent game because of a 90 minute cutscene that you can skip? :|

if the 90 minute cutscene is at the end, why would you want to skip it :|

Are you directing that at me? Because what you're saying sounds like more of a jab at him.

you. you said that you can skip it. well what if the 90 minute cutscene is the last scene where you find out the ending, why would you want to skip it. (alot of assumptions here, hehe. but its a possibility)

You're not getting me. IF you are a fan of MGS, you wouldn't want to skip it. It's probably loaded with plot and what not. IF you are that guy, who wouldn't get the game because there is a 90 minute cutscene in it, then you clearly aren't a fan of the series in the first place. :|

did you guys also notice that MGS4 REQUIRES a 4.5gig install?

i think i am noticing a pattern in ps3 games and requiring installation.

I think what it means is that if all cutscenes would be combined it will be 90 minutes.jmdude

1. It's Kojima's last MGS game and he will be going all out!

2. There is ALOT of things that need to be answered before the series can end properly.

3. Blu-ray, 50gb, nuff said. And he filled the freaking thing!

You're not getting me. IF you are a fan of MGS, you wouldn't want to skip it. It's probably loaded with plot and what not. IF you are that guy, who wouldn't get the game because there is a 90 minute cutscene in it, then you clearly aren't a fan of the series in the first place. :|

organic_machine

well you should have said that in the first place.

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You're not getting me. IF you are a fan of MGS, you wouldn't want to skip it. It's probably loaded with plot and what not. IF you are that guy, who wouldn't get the game because there is a 90 minute cutscene in it, then you clearly aren't a fan of the series in the first place. :|

ogvampire

well you should have said that in the first place.

Shouldn't it have been assumed??!!! I thought that was obvious from the get go.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="organic_machine"]

You're not getting me. IF you are a fan of MGS, you wouldn't want to skip it. It's probably loaded with plot and what not. IF you are that guy, who wouldn't get the game because there is a 90 minute cutscene in it, then you clearly aren't a fan of the series in the first place. :|

organic_machine

well you should have said that in the first place.

Shouldn't it have been assumed??!!!

:roll: why would it be "assumed??!!!"

you know what i assume? i assume that people would rather play games than watch a freakin 90 minute movie within the game. wouldnt that be a better assumption?

Well coming from a guy who doesn't like MGS and wanted to give MGS4 a try this isn't exactly making me excited. I want to play games I don't want to sit around watching them. Couldn't they have taken some hints from Valve on ways to tell story? I mean cutscenes are okay and all but this seems ridiculous. Wish it had cutscenes like RE4 where you can interact with at least. Or does it have them?Blackbond

Well, don't assume it's going to suck. This 90 minute cutscene thing still has the possibility of being very good. As long as they do it correctly, it really shouldn't be a problem.

And we don't have to worry about anyone calling MGS4 a casual game :lol:

Um... Hello? People!

The source of the Article is PSW. If you don't remember, PSW said that Konami told them that a MGS4 demo would be on the Playstation store in Febuary. It never happened, and Konami rebuked the claim. PSW also said that they had excluive information on Zone of the Enders 3, a game that Kojima hasn't even formally announced yet. PSW is not a trustworthy source for information at all.

[QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="organic_machine"]

You're not getting me. IF you are a fan of MGS, you wouldn't want to skip it. It's probably loaded with plot and what not. IF you are that guy, who wouldn't get the game because there is a 90 minute cutscene in it, then you clearly aren't a fan of the series in the first place. :|

ogvampire

well you should have said that in the first place.

Shouldn't it have been assumed??!!!

:roll: why would it be "assumed??!!!"

you know what i assume? i assume that people would rather play games than watch a freakin 90 minute movie within the game. wouldnt that be a better assumption?

:| Do you even realize what you are arguing about. We're not arguing about how good or bad the cutscene thing is, here. I don't know where you are drawing conclusions.

YOU ARE SAYING:

It's not okay to assume a fan of the series wouldn't wan't to skip it.

NOW, if you belive that, you are wrong. A fan of the series has dealt with these kind of cutscenes before and if they are a fan of the series, they will probably enjoy it.

Seriously. What are you talking about anymore?

Well coming from a guy who doesn't like MGS and wanted to give MGS4 a try this isn't exactly making me excited. I want to play games I don't want to sit around watching them. Couldn't they have taken some hints from Valve on ways to tell story? I mean cutscenes are okay and all but this seems ridiculous. Wish it had cutscenes like RE4 where you can interact with at least. Or does it have them?Blackbond

From what I've heard in other threads and news is that during cutscenes you can do other things like flashback to previous key MGS moments if you hear something important, or control that little robot thing and explore while there's a cutscene, probably look around in first person view like MGS3 and look at stuff I guess. I can't recall other things I've heard though and I'm not sure if these are confirmed or whatever, but it's what I've heard. Also, from watching the first 10min of gameplay, the transition between cutscenes and gameplay is very smooth and doesn't break the action up to much.. but this is only the first 10min though.

MGS has the best cutscenes in gaming, but 90 minutes in 1 go is too muchtherealmcc0y

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]Well coming from a guy who doesn't like MGS and wanted to give MGS4 a try this isn't exactly making me excited. I want to play games I don't want to sit around watching them. Couldn't they have taken some hints from Valve on ways to tell story? I mean cutscenes are okay and all but this seems ridiculous. Wish it had cutscenes like RE4 where you can interact with at least. Or does it have them?organic_machine

Well, don't assume it's going to suck. This 90 minute cutscene thing still has the possibility of being very good. As long as they do it correctly, it really shouldn't be a problem.

And we don't have to worry about anyone calling MGS4 a casual game :lol:

Never said it was going to suck. Its just that I'm not a MGS fan and this doesn't do anything to hype me up and just does a lot to turn me off. 90 minute cutscenes are ludirious no matter how good they are. I'm trying to play a game not watch it. Meh I never liked GTA but bought GTA4 so I'll probably do the same with MGS4. But come on 90 minute cutscenes?

That's just ridiculous. That's a whole theater length movie.

[QUOTE="organic_machine"]

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]Well coming from a guy who doesn't like MGS and wanted to give MGS4 a try this isn't exactly making me excited. I want to play games I don't want to sit around watching them. Couldn't they have taken some hints from Valve on ways to tell story? I mean cutscenes are okay and all but this seems ridiculous. Wish it had cutscenes like RE4 where you can interact with at least. Or does it have them?Blackbond

Well, don't assume it's going to suck. This 90 minute cutscene thing still has the possibility of being very good. As long as they do it correctly, it really shouldn't be a problem.

And we don't have to worry about anyone calling MGS4 a casual game :lol:

Never said it was going to suck. Its just that I'm not a MGS fan and this doesn't do anything to hype me up and just does a lot to turn me off. 90 minute cutscenes are ludirious no matter how good they are. I'm trying to play a game not watch it. Meh I never liked GTA but bought GTA4 so I'll probably do the same with MGS4. But come on 90 minute cutscenes?

That's just ridiculous. That's a whole theater length movie.

I think I am looking at this with defferent expectations. When I want to play a game or watch a film, I wan't to be entertained. IF a cutscene in a videogame is going to provide me with entertainment, what do I care? It's all entertaining in the end. If the cutscene is thrilling and well done, that 90 minutes shouldn't seem like a long time. If it's anything like Lost that is! :P

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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]Well coming from a guy who doesn't like MGS and wanted to give MGS4 a try this isn't exactly making me excited. I want to play games I don't want to sit around watching them. Couldn't they have taken some hints from Valve on ways to tell story? I mean cutscenes are okay and all but this seems ridiculous. Wish it had cutscenes like RE4 where you can interact with at least. Or does it have them?Blackbond

Well, don't assume it's going to suck. This 90 minute cutscene thing still has the possibility of being very good. As long as they do it correctly, it really shouldn't be a problem.

And we don't have to worry about anyone calling MGS4 a casual game :lol:

Never said it was going to suck. Its just that I'm not a MGS fan and this doesn't do anything to hype me up and just does a lot to turn me off. 90 minute cutscenes are ludirious no matter how good they are. I'm trying to play a game not watch it. Meh I never liked GTA but bought GTA4 so I'll probably do the same with MGS4. But come on 90 minute cutscenes?

That's just ridiculous. That's a whole theater length movie.

Sony lets you wait for games, watch games, basically do everything but play gamesshadow8585

Alright, so, if what you say is true, there must be, therefore, no games out for the PS3. In order for that to be true, Sony bust be the only developer of PS3 games.

So, what you just said is wrong on very very many counts.