LittleBigPlanet is the best platformer of ALL TIME [PROOF INSIDE!]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Well, I don't really feel like ripping LBP a new one today so I'll just refute your logic. In LBP you can create a variety of cool levels (no perfection recreations though) but due to not being able to change how the platforming is performed, thus being restricted to one platforming mechanic and not being able to recreate things like power ups (for legal reasons and etc), LBP will never be able to recreate even the most basic platformer perfectly. Also, Yoshi's Island is the best Platformer ever. I don't need proof, it is because that is how the world intended it to be. It was chosen by a higher power.

xX-Incubus-Xx

I see, well you are wrong but I see. SMW was my first game. Holds a special place in my gaming heart. Yoshi's Island still slaps it silly however. In so many different ways. Toshi's Island doesn't compare though. You can't compare and excellent game like Super Mario World to the God and pinnacle of platforming that is Yoshi's Island.

LBP is great game, no doubt about that and sure it does crush some of mario's games, but does it crush all of them?? NO IT DOESNT. Sorry but you just cant compare all the amazing titles that mario has brought over the years, with just LBP. Cant compare the greatness of this,

with this,

I love LBP to death (one of my favorite of the generation) I still don't think it's the best platformer of all time or anything like that. I think you're going a little overboard there. NAPK1NS

[QUOTE="AndyAlfredo"]

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

And actually good platforming and fun jumping

ActicEdge

In comparison to... Mario?

Who said Mario HAS to be the standard for platforming? I swear, it either plays exactly like Mario or it sucks as a platformer. I think LBPs physics give it unique, challenging gameplay. If you actually OWN the game, go look for fun, tough, well-made levels and LBP not only holds up against Mario but surpasses it in many areas. Sure, Mario games are streamlined, fast, arcadey (Modern Warfare comes to mind as an FPS similarity) and that provides fun, but it doesn't mean that LBPs platforming isn't good or isn't fun (KZ2 here) It's different. Accept it. Play it. Love it.

No one has ever said Mario was the standard. People often bring up Mario since it is seen as the pinnacle of the genre but it is not the standard. I just find it amusing how whenever someone says something negative about a game people like the accusation is they haven't played it.No one thinks LBP surpasses or meets Mario because it does not meet the requirements they consider necessary for a mario rivaling platformer. Oh noez!11!! Its not that people dislike or can't accept change (I'm pretty positive everyone loved 2D Sonic did they not?), its simply a mtter of not thinking LBP holds up. If you do cool, some of us do not however.

People normally imply Mario as the standard, though. I accept that LBP is not perfect and not as streamlined, but everyone must bring up Mario games in the platformer argument. I'm not tearing apart Mario, I just want people to stop calling LBP a terrible platformer (it happens all the time, if you haven't noticed) Just defending a game I loved and played to death.

[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"]I love LBP to death (one of my favorite of the generation) I still don't think it's the best platformer of all time or anything like that. I think you're going a little overboard there. Mantleman

Understatement. He always goes overboard, period. Also, he's pretty much just pretending.

[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

[QUOTE="tirralirra"] Pfft, Banjo hasn't been up to its standards since the original.tirralirra

lol wat are you talking about? THe second one is considered superiour to the original in almost every way, and yea nuts and Bolts isnt as good, but it was still good enough to beat Gears of War 2 and Fable 2 for Xbox 360 GOTY on giant bomb last year ;)

yea Click Clock woods is currently tied with jolly rogers lagoon as my fav level.

also I cant recommend Ratchet and clank enough, it is probably my favorite Sony franchise atm.

[QUOTE="tirralirra"][QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

lol wat are you talking about? THe second one is considered superiour to the original in almost every way, and yea nuts and Bolts isnt as good, but it was still good enough to beat Gears of War 2 and Fable 2 for Xbox 360 GOTY on giant bomb last year ;)

dragonfly110

yea Click Clock woods is currently tied with jolly rogers lagoon as my fav level.

also I cant recommend Ratchet and clank enough, it is probably my favorite Sony franchise atm.

Dragon I'm sorry but Spyro 2 is the best! *runs*

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="AndyAlfredo"]

In comparison to... Mario?

Who said Mario HAS to be the standard for platforming? I swear, it either plays exactly like Mario or it sucks as a platformer. I think LBPs physics give it unique, challenging gameplay. If you actually OWN the game, go look for fun, tough, well-made levels and LBP not only holds up against Mario but surpasses it in many areas. Sure, Mario games are streamlined, fast, arcadey (Modern Warfare comes to mind as an FPS similarity) and that provides fun, but it doesn't mean that LBPs platforming isn't good or isn't fun (KZ2 here) It's different. Accept it. Play it. Love it.

AndyAlfredo

No one has ever said Mario was the standard. People often bring up Mario since it is seen as the pinnacle of the genre but it is not the standard. I just find it amusing how whenever someone says something negative about a game people like the accusation is they haven't played it.No one thinks LBP surpasses or meets Mario because it does not meet the requirements they consider necessary for a mario rivaling platformer. Oh noez!11!! Its not that people dislike or can't accept change (I'm pretty positive everyone loved 2D Sonic did they not?), its simply a mtter of not thinking LBP holds up. If you do cool, some of us do not however.

People normally imply Mario as the standard, though. I accept that LBP is not perfect and not as streamlined, but everyone must bring up Mario games in the platformer argument. I'm not tearing apart Mario, I just want people to stop calling LBP a terrible platformer (it happens all the time, if you haven't noticed) Just defending a game I loved and played to death.

True, Mario is often applied as the standard which in essence is not fair since the best franchises aren't really the standard, they are the exception. I think in general Mario often are the best platformers (you could easily argue Sonic though imo, those games had tons of depth) however. LBP platforming is diffeent but I just think the lack of variety in your actual abilities as sack boy doesn't allow it the flexibilty that other platformers have. It does its own thing which is cool but I think that the control you have over your avatar and how you can execute abilities as well as gain them are indeed important.

[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

[QUOTE="tirralirra"] Disagree. I was a avid avid fan of Banjo, I think i was about 13 when i played it. I was a Nintendo fanboy at the time and the level designs, music, pacing, puzzling, everything just has not been on par with the original. Maybe it was because its the first, but oh well. 2nd one was good, but not the same i don;t think. Most memorable moment, the level in the original with the 4 seasons. that was pure genius and i loved the music for it too. Someone please help me on whethr R&C is worth getting, any of them for PS3 and why?sanim02

yea Click Clock woods is currently tied with jolly rogers lagoon as my fav level.

also I cant recommend Ratchet and clank enough, it is probably my favorite Sony franchise atm.

Dragon I'm sorry but Spyro 2 is the best! *runs*

Spyro 2 is pretty damn bad ass. Love that game.

LBP is pretty weak in the platforming department

there have been tons of better platformers...and by tons, i cannot stretch that enough

hell of a game though

[QUOTE="AndyAlfredo"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

No one has ever said Mario was the standard. People often bring up Mario since it is seen as the pinnacle of the genre but it is not the standard. I just find it amusing how whenever someone says something negative about a game people like the accusation is they haven't played it.No one thinks LBP surpasses or meets Mario because it does not meet the requirements they consider necessary for a mario rivaling platformer. Oh noez!11!! Its not that people dislike or can't accept change (I'm pretty positive everyone loved 2D Sonic did they not?), its simply a mtter of not thinking LBP holds up. If you do cool, some of us do not however.

ActicEdge

People normally imply Mario as the standard, though. I accept that LBP is not perfect and not as streamlined, but everyone must bring up Mario games in the platformer argument. I'm not tearing apart Mario, I just want people to stop calling LBP a terrible platformer (it happens all the time, if you haven't noticed) Just defending a game I loved and played to death.

True, Mario is often applied as the standard which in essence is not fair since the best franchises aren't really the standard, they are the exception. I think in general Mario often are the best platformers (you could easily argue Sonic though imo, those games had tons of depth) however. LBP platforming is diffeent but I just think the lack of variety in your actual abilities as sack boy doesn't allow it the flexibilty that other platformers have. It does its own thing which is cool but I think that the control you have over your avatar and how you can execute abilities as well as gain them are indeed important.

Agreed. Abilities, power-ups, LBP is definitely lacking (I'm going to hope for some DLC) I put a LOT of time into SMB3 (on the GBA) just beating every level so I can go back and do whatever I want whenever, and I love the platforming element on Mario and Luigi: SS (getting ready for Inside Story) Great games, just don't want people always comparing.

Best platformer is Abe's Oddysee and Abe's Exodus. End of discussion O_O

[QUOTE="sanim02"]

[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

yea Click Clock woods is currently tied with jolly rogers lagoon as my fav level.

also I cant recommend Ratchet and clank enough, it is probably my favorite Sony franchise atm.

ActicEdge

Dragon I'm sorry but Spyro 2 is the best! *runs*

Spyro 2 is pretty damn bad ass. Love that game.

It's the best of the original trilogy, but all three are awesome.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="sanim02"]

Dragon I'm sorry but Spyro 2 is the best! *runs*

jimkabrhel

Spyro 2 is pretty damn bad ass. Love that game.

It's the best of the original trilogy, but all three are awesome.

Yeah man wish Insomniac still had the rights to it.. I felt soooo burnt when I got Enter the Dragonfly....:|

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="sanim02"]

Dragon I'm sorry but Spyro 2 is the best! *runs*

jimkabrhel

Spyro 2 is pretty damn bad ass. Love that game.

It's the best of the original trilogy, but all three are awesome.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Spyro 2 is pretty damn bad ass. Love that game.

DaViD_99

It's the best of the original trilogy, but all three are awesome.

It really does. I own all three from PSN, and while there is a slight bit of nostalgia, I admit, the games are great looking for PS games and the 3D platforming is top=notch.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Spyro 2 is pretty damn bad ass. Love that game.

DaViD_99

It's the best of the original trilogy, but all three are awesome.

Its my favourite platformers to play when I'm super bored or sick. (even more than Mario). I think they hold up nicely. Better than crash bandicoot.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Spyro 2 is pretty damn bad ass. Love that game.

DaViD_99

It's the best of the original trilogy, but all three are awesome.

Oh hell yeah, of course they are worth the purchase. I think it has aged better than Mario 64. Just my 2 cents.

LBP was boring. I'm all for cutsiness, and customization, but they've been done in games before that actual were fun in their core gameplay. Once you get passed the cuteness and customization (which, admittedly, takes a while) LBP just isn't all that fun to play.

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

[QUOTE="Deadly_Fatalis"] Nostalgia. AndyAlfredo

And actually good platforming and fun jumping

In comparison to... Mario?

Who said Mario HAS to be the standard for platforming? I swear, it either plays exactly like Mario or it sucks as a platformer. I think LBPs physics give it unique, challenging gameplay. If you actually OWN the game, go look for fun, tough, well-made levels and LBP not only holds up against Mario but surpasses it in many areas. Sure, Mario games are streamlined, fast, arcadey (Modern Warfare comes to mind as an FPS similarity) and that provides fun, but it doesn't mean that LBPs platforming isn't good or isn't fun (KZ2 here) It's different. Accept it. Play it. Love it.

I know LBP is a fantastic game but not that good of a platformer, I like the racing levels and exploring what other crazy stuff people create butt to but the floaty gameplay really hurt it. I think even MM realized this because LBP on the psp the game controls much tighter and, well the core gameplay is better because if it. If LBP on the ps3 controlled better I think it would have made the game much more exciting

and why not LBP and mario together ???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VInEPt7Dn4I

I have to say that I had much more fun with LBP then I did with mario back in the day.But best platformer of all time?! Thats debatable.

Sorry, but Mario wins.

Every time I see aku101 making a thread, with the words "proof inside" in the title, I know there's some lol worthy trolling going on.

This thread did not disappoint.

And no, LBP isn't even cloes to best platformer ever, as that title goes to Banjo Tooie.

Mario has a Penguin Suit. Your argument is invalid.

Huh? You said proof inside. I clicked the link, and there is no proof. And LBP pales to games like Super Mario Galaxy. It doesn't even allow for the creation of complex 3-D levels like Galaxy has. It only allows for 2-D levels with a bit of "depth" in that you can move slightly "away"/"toward" the camera. It doesn't have the same physics, mechanics, player moves, or player upgrades as the Mario games either, making it impossible to replicate even SMB1.

Mario has a Penguin Suit. Your argument is invalid.

metroidfood

You know :oops: sackboy have one too

[QUOTE="metroidfood"]

Mario has a Penguin Suit. Your argument is invalid.

Haito_81

You know :oops: sackboy have one too

Sackboy may have a penguin-like suit, but does it allow him to throw ice balls at enemies, make belly slides, or make him swim underwater efficiently like Mario's Penguin Suit?

go back to ancient times and find a game called Sonic the Hedgehog 2 or Super Mario World play them come back then try saying LBP is the best.Those two still steamroll any platformer today and thats the truth it was a simpler time and much more fun.

LBP's fun but it looses its shine rather quick i like it but i hardly play it at all.

Not even close. LBP has pretty crappy gameplay.sonicthemegaman

Aku101, we all thought you were banned for a minute..... goddammit

Super Mario World is the best, LBP doesn't come close to the greatness of it.

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"]Not even close. LBP has pretty crappy gameplay.tirralirra

crappy gameplay == crappy gameplay

Super Mario Bros 3 says hi. Oh wait, it's Aku, so I'm sure all posts not praising PS3 will get ignored.

[QUOTE="Giancar"]

*cough cough*

Aku101

I can make all of SMB3 in LBP and more.

It's simple, with LBP's level editor you can create any level that you want and you can take it as far as your imagination wants to go.

Aku101

I guess you... :P